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Signups are now open! Please /in in the thread.
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Rules updated and fixed. In vincentw's example (4 Crystals, 1 Scale), the player would *not* discard their Scale and would not receive any Crystals; the rule of "Players with 0-2 Scales receive no Crystals. They do not discard their Scales" is the one that applies.
We now have two players signed up, so I'm starting a timer. I'm going to add some time to it, as I definitely won't be online when the standard 48 hour timer expires. We'll start the game when this timer runs out (unless it fills before then)!
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I'd say not even close to Ra. Ra is an auction game; this has no auctions whatsoever. This one is about coming up with card combinations and trying to pay off targets efficiently and semi-cooperatively (although there can be only one winner at the end).
I've only got about ten minutes left before I have to switch gears to something else, which isn't enough time to launch this game right now. But we are full!
I'll probably start up the game in the neighborhood of around six hours from now, give or take.Mish-Mash Janitor
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While I've found that different people have different ideas of what constitutes complexity, I would say that this game is more complex than any other game I've run so far.
I'd compare the decisions per turn to That's So Clever, although there's no dice rolling - or anything that requires moderator action mid-turn - so players can submit everything they're doing all at once.
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Going to start getting things ready here.
Scale Pool is set to 15 Scales. Scale Resolution will happen whenever the sum total of all four players' Scales is >= 15.
Next up: determining a starting player. Rolling a d4 ...
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The game board can always be found in post #1. Public player information and dragon whereabouts are in the OP.
I'll go ahead and post the starting info here as well, to have it on the books:
Spoiler: The Board
I think for this game, I'm going to default to sending a PM to everyone at the start of the turn with a crystal count, as that's more likely to change off-turn. If youdon'twant that PM, please let me know; if you want that PM to include your hand as well, please let me know. I'll send out hand updates whenever your hand changes (typically end of your turn).
The first player to getends the game and wins immediately.4 VP
With that, let's get started. Please let me know if you have any questions!
Game on.
It is nowFelissan's turn.
Please let me know:
1) Which Sector you're moving to (and if you're moving any Dragons, and/or playing any movement-related cards);
2) Which Zone(s) you're rebuilding, and how you're paying for them;
3) Whether or not you're discarding any cards at the end of your turn to draw extras.
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Moving: Felissan plays a Black 1, bringing the Black Dragon into play and allowing it to move to anywhere she wants. She moves to A3 - the Library - along with the Black Dragon.
Rebuilding: Felissan plays a White 3 to Zone B, completing it. She then plays another White 3 to Zone C, completing it. Zone A remains unbuilt, so the Library remains Incomplete. She spends two Building Markers. With the Black Dragon at A3, she also receives1 Scale.
Drawing: Felissan discards a Red 2 and draws three cards.
Cards to the Discard pile: Black 1, White 3, White 3, Red 2. Now resolving!Mish-Mash Janitor
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Moving: vincentw plays no cards and moves no Dragons. He moves to D2 - the Monastery Tower.
Rebuilding: vincentw plays a Gray 3 and a Gray 1 together towards Zone A; that adds to 4, which is enough to complete it. He then plays a Gray 2 towards Zone B, completing it. Finally, he plays another Gray 2 towards Zone C, completing it. He spends three Building Markers in total. With all three Zones complete, the Sector itself is complete!
The Monastery Tower has been rebuilt! The people of Blue Moon City rejoice, showering its builders in wealth!
Awards
First, vincentw is refunded the Building Markers he just spent - so he's back to 10.
He was the only player to contribute anything towards the Monastery Tower. Only he receives Sector D2's Helper Bonus of1 Crystal.
Since he was the only player to help, it stands to reason that he did the most work. So he also receives Sector D2's Leader Bonus of1 Scale.
With Sector D2 rebuilt, its Synergy Bonus is now active! All Sectors directly adjacent to D2 will now receive D2's Synergy Bonus of1 Scalewhen completed.
Finally, vincentw opts not to discard any cards. He draws two cards to end his turn.
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Moving: Ninetales plays no cards and moves no Dragons. She moves to B2 - the Aqueduct.
Rebuilding: First, she plays a White 2, invoking its power. The White 2 can turn any one card into a Wild. She turns her Red 2 into a Wild 2. She then plays that Wild 2 and a Blue 3 towards Zone A; as that adds up to 5, that's enough to complete it. She spends one Building Marker in total. As Zone A is the only Zone in the Sector, that completes the Sector!
The Aqueduct has been rebuilt! The people of Blue Moon City rejoice, showering its builders with wealth!
Awards
First, Ninetales gets her Building Marker back.
Next, the Aqueduct awards its Helper Bonus of1 Crystalto everyone who helped rebuild it - which means only Ninetales gets it.
Then, the Aqueduct awards its Leader Bonus of1 Scaleto the person who did the most work on it. Of course, with only one Zone, it's an all-or-nothing proposition. So Ninetales gets the Scale too.
Its Synergy Bonus goes live! All Sectors directly adjacent to B2 will get an additional 1 Crystal added to their Helper Bonuses when they are completed.
Finally, Ninetales opts not to discard any cards, drawing two and ending her turn.
Cards discarded: White 2, Red 2, Blue 3. Now resolving!
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Resolution is now complete. It is nowNancy Drew 39's turn.
She is currently on V/LA. If the 48 hour timer runs out, I will automatically apply an extension at the standard rate (of 1) instead of the penalty rate (of 2). She has four extensions remaining.Mish-Mash Janitor
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Trying to resolve some accessibility issues regarding the Board. Could everyone please take a look at this shortened section of the Board and let me know if it looks easier to read or harder to read?
Changes: usingboldtags on the cells; brightening up the color of completed (green) sectors. Comments on the individual changes are also welcome.
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Here's another mock-up. In this one, I've:- increased the size of the text to 113 (this is the biggest I can make it while still keeping it within a single screen on my monitor);
- moved Zones to the upper right corner (see the center zone and center rightmost zone);
- removed the "Zone A" tag for completed Zones - now just the player's name appears (see the center leftmost zone for an illustration of this);
- rearranged the Courtyard to work with this new format (A/B/C/D in the upper right; everything else in three columns).
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If the bold is more legible, then yes, it'd be on every cell. The second mock-up has a mix of the two to distinguish between them.
I like the look of that Courtyard. My original design was trying to stay closer to the game, but that looks pretty streamlined.
The only info that doesn't communicate is the order in which players have contributed to the Obelisk. I don't know that it's critical info (and players could look back through the game if they needed it), but I think it could theoretically be helpful info?Mish-Mash Janitor
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I consider "What would AutoPlay do if it took my turn for me?" to be a valid rules question. I'll respond via PM, as this involves divulging information about your hand.In post 36, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Is it possible to request autoplay take my turn so I don’t waste an extension since I don’t think waiting will help?Mish-Mash Janitor
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Nancy Drew 39 has submitted her turn via PM.
Moving: she moves to A3, playing no cards and moving no dragons.
Rebuilding: she plays a White 2 and a pair of Green 1s to rebuild Zone A. Zone A is the last Zone remaining, which completes the Sector! She spends one Building Marker and receives1 Scalefrom the Black Dragon.
The Library has been rebuilt! The people of Blue Moon City rejoice, showering its builders in wealth!
First, all Building Markers used to rebuild the Library are refunded.Felissangets two Building Markers back, putting her back at 10.Nancy Drew 39gets the Marker she just spent back, keeping her at 10.
Second, everyone who helped rebuild the Library receives the Helper bonus. BothFelissanandNancy Drew 39receive2 Crystals.
Third, the person who did the most work on the Library receives the Leader bonus.Felissanrebuilt two Zones, so she gets an additional2 Crystals.
The Library's Synergy bonus goes active; any Sector directly adjacent to A3 will now pay out an additional3 Crystalswhen it's completed!
Finally, Nancy Drew 39 opts not to discard any cards; she draws two cards, ending her turn.
Cards discarded: White 2, Green 1, Green 1. Now resolving!
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Moving: Felissan moves from A3 to B4, playing no cards and moving no Dragons.
Rebuilding: Felissan plays a Black 2 and a Black 3 to Zone A of the Citadel. As it has only one Zone, this finishes the rebuilding! She spends one Building Marker.
The Citadel has been rebuilt! The people of Blue Moon City rejoice, showering its builders in wealth!
Awards
First, Felissan gets her Building Marker back.
Second, the Citadel pays out its Helper Bonus of1 Crystalto Felissan, as she's the only one who helped rebuild it.
Third, the Citadel pays out its Leader Bonus of1 Scaleto Felissan, since she did all the work herself.
The Citadel's Synergy bonus goes online; anyone who helps rebuild any Sector next to B4 will receive an additional1 Crystalonce it's completed.
Finally, Felissan discards a Blue 2 to draw an additional card; she draws three cards in total.
To the discard pile: Black 2, Black 3, Blue 2. Now resolving!Mish-Mash Janitor
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Moving: vincentw plays a Blue 1, bringing the Blue Dragon into play. vincentw moves from D2 to D1 - the Iron Foundry - and brings the Blue Dragon with him.
Rebuilding: vincentw plays a Black 3, which completes Zone A. He spends one Building Marker. As the Blue Dragon is present, he receives1 Scale. Zones B and C remain unbuilt.
Drawing: vincentw draws two cards.
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Don't think that combination works for Zones B and C together. B3 is the Palace - color Any; Zones B and C cost 4 each.
Br1+Br1 = Wild 3; that plus W1 covers one of the two Zones. That only leaves the Bl2 to cover the other Zone, which isn't enough.Mish-Mash Janitor
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Unfortunately, the Palace (the only zone with the color ANY) only allows mixing of colors between different zones; anything going to the same Zone has to be the same color.
Zone B: {Brown 1 + Brown 1} + White 1 = OK; the two Browns make a Wild 3, and Wild is whatever color you want it to be - so the Wild 3 gets treated as a White 3.
Zone C: Black 2 + Brown 2 = not OK - the single Brown isn't Wild by itself, so it can't match the Black's color (or vice versa). They'd either both have to be the same color, or one of them would have to be Wild, for this to work.Mish-Mash Janitor
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Not a problem! Glad you were able to get it fixed in time. And the Palace rule's a bit on the obscure side, as it only applies to that one Sector in particular; it's an easy one to miss.
Moving: Ninetales plays a Black 2 to enable movement on the Black Dragon. She moves herself and the Black Dragon to B3 - the Palace.
Rebuilding: Ninetales plays a pair of Brown 1s to invoke their wild power, turning them into a Wild 3. She follows that up with a Brown 2 to rebuild Zone A. She spends one Building Marker to do so; as the Black Dragon is present, she gains1 Scale. Zones B-D remain incomplete, as does the Sector.
Drawing: Ninetales discards her White 1 and draws three cards.
Cards to the discard pile: Black 2, Brown 1, Brown 1, Brown 2, White 1. Now resolving!Mish-Mash Janitor
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Got it!In post 60, vincentw wrote:@Mod: I'll be V/LA for 72 hours starting 7 May at midnight UTC.Mish-Mash Janitor
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From my response (bolding and underlining added):
I prefer to keep these discussions in private because letting other players know that you are taking AutoPlay's move may give them mod-confirmed information about your private holdings, which gives them an advantage over you. Nevertheless, if you'd rather discuss the issue in public, you're welcome to do so.Farren wrote:Same as before:
I can tell you what AutoPlay's move will be.
You can choose to take that move.
What I can't do is just execute AutoPlay's move for you without you being aware of what that move is and approving it - unless you run out of time.
AutoPlay's move this turn for you would be:
{redacted - contains private information about Nancy's hand}
If you want to take that move, you can. But you'll need to respond to this PM and confirm it. Before the deadline, if you want to avoid using another extension.
This response was sent less than 30 minutes after you sent your PM. I think that is a reasonable amount of time to respond to a PM, especially one that requires figuring out an AutoPlay action. Your request was clear - and it was rejected, due to the underlined/bolded principle above - with the caveat that it would be approved if you confirmed the move after I sent it, as then I would know that you were aware of what the move was.
Knowing what that move is now, do you want to take it? (You are welcome to restate the move, change the move, or make an entirely different move to obfuscate whether AutoPlay is responsible for it or no, in order to maintain the secrecy of your private holdings.)Mish-Mash Janitor
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Nancy Drew 39 has submitted her move via PM.
Moving: she moves to B3 - the Palace. She plays no cards and moves no dragons.
Rebuilding: first, she plays a pair of Blue 2s to complete Zone B.
Next, she plays a Gold 3 and a Green 1 to complete Zone C.
Next, she plays a Red 3 to complete Zone D. All four Zones are complete; this finishes the Palace! She spends three Building Markers. The Black Dragon was present for all of this, so she receives1 Scale.
The Palace has been completed! The people of Blue Moon City rejoice, showering its builders in wealth!
Awards
First, Nancy Drew 39 is refunded all three of the Building Markers she just spent. Ninetales is refunded one Building Marker as well.
Second, the Palace pays out its Helper bonus to everyone who helped rebuild it. Both Ninetales and Nancy Drew 39 receive1 Crystal, 1 Scale, and 1 Card.
Third, the Palace pays out its Leader bonus to the player who did the most work on it. That's Nancy Drew 39, who rebuilt 3 out of 4 Zones. She receives an additional2 Crystals.
Fourth, synergy bonuses are paid out! B2, A3, and B4 were all completed prior to the Palace, and all three are adjacent to the Palace; all three pay out their Synergy bonuses to everyone who helped rebuild the Palace. Ninetales and Nancy Drew 39 both receive an additional5 Crystalseach.
The Palace's synergy bonus goes live - but as there are no incomplete Zones left by the Palace (other than the Courtyard, which doesn't count!), its synergy bonus is irrelevant.
In total: Nancy Drew 39 receives a net of8 Crystals, 2 Scales, and 1 Card.Ninetales receives 1 Building Marker and6 Crystals, 1 Scale, and 1 Card.
Finally, Nancy Drew 39 does not discard anything; she draws a total of three cards (including the one she received as a reward from the Palace); Ninetales draws one card.
Cards to the discard pile: Blue 2, Blue 2, Gold 3, Green 1, Red 3. Now resolving!Mish-Mash Janitor
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Resolution complete. It is nowFelissan's turn.
I'm going to start working on those accessibility changes sometime in the next 24 hours. I didn't get any negative feedback on them and the feedback I did get was positive - so I'm going to implement the color change, the bolding, and the smaller board. Still considering vincentw's redesign of the Courtyard; I might toss it into the board as a whole and see how it looks.Mish-Mash Janitor
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Moving: Felissan moves from B4 to C5. She plays no cards and moves no Dragons.
Rebuilding: Felissan plays a Blue 3 to rebuild Zone A. She also plays a White 1 on her Brown 3, turning it into a Wild 3. She applies that Wild 3 towards Zone B, rebuilding it. Zone C remains unbuilt. She spends two Building Markers.
Drawing: Felissan discards no cards and draws two.
To the discard pile: Blue 3, Brown 3, White 1. Now resolving!
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Which Zone is that going towards?
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Moving: vincentw moves from D1 to C1. He plays no cards and moves no Dragons.
Rebuilding: vincentw plays a Red 3 towards Zone A, completing it. Zones B and C remain incomplete. He spends 1 Building Marker.
Discard/Drawing: vincentw discards a Brown 2 and draws three cards.
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Got it!In post 79, Felissan wrote:@Mod I'll be V/LA until the 8th, though I'll still try to keep up. Sorry I didn't mention it sooner.Mish-Mash Janitor
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Barring a strong outcry from everyone, I'm going to remove the rule about needing to have the banner up to declare V/LA. As long as it's publicly declared in a form accessible to everyone here - via banner, displayed sig, or a post in here - I don't think the exact method of declaring it matters.Mish-Mash Janitor
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Here is the new version of the board. I'm going to post this, then do a quick double-check against the old board to make sure nothing game-relevant got changed. Once that's done, I'll change the version in post #1 to this one.
- size increased to 111. (113 didn't quite fit when everything was put together.)
- green color changed to lime.
- non-green colors bolded. (bolded green looked less legible than non-bolded green, and green zones are complete, so the info there's of less importance anyway.)
- courtyard redesigned (courtesy of vincentw).
Spoiler: The Board