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by camelCasedSnivy » Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:08 am
tying probably isnt a good idea since the follower can break the tie before voting for day end
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by camelCasedSnivy » Mon Oct 02, 2023 1:45 pm
i woke up at 4am
i want
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Post #30 (isolation #3 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:59 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:59 am
also no one claimed seeing cheese thief
does this imply cheese thief woke up alone
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Post #31 (isolation #4 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:00 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:00 am
did you two wake up together?
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Post #40 (isolation #5 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:31 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:31 am
not really
you could be a follower
btw de70, in your full thoughts can you tell me if you woke up alone or not?
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Post #46 (isolation #6 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:18 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:18 am
lets let de70 post his thoughts with if he woke up with someone first
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Post #50 (isolation #7 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:37 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:37 am
de did you lie?
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Post #59 (isolation #9 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:38 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:38 am
sorry i dont see where you claim it in your case
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Post #60 (isolation #10 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:40 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:40 am
i am staring as hard as i can just tell me
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Post #61 (isolation #11 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:42 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:42 am
just tell me what time you woke up at its not that hard
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Post #64 (isolation #12 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:45 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:45 am
but you couldve been lying since you said claim a different time than those you woke with
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Post #65 (isolation #13 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:46 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:46 am
whatever i woke alone and tracked mallow to 3 am im done
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Post #68 (isolation #14 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:48 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:48 am
so assuming me nor ndmath arent followers (which is less likely since thief should choose those they wake up with) it should be safe to claim if we saw cheese or not
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Post #70 (isolation #15 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:49 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:49 am
In post 66 , DragonEater70 wrote:
huh
Why did you wait for me to claim before saying that?
But anyway from your POV Math is confirmed Cheese Thief unless SilverSky is actually best scum team that ever scummed in the Mish Mash forums.
ill read in full later
i wanted to see if you would lie but with the asking i did you probably couldve seen that so idk
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Post #72 (isolation #16 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:49 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:49 am
In post 69 , NDMath wrote:
this is news
I think that just makes you thief from my perspective
how so
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Post #74 (isolation #17 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:51 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:51 am
also thats why i poocorned mallow
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Post #76 (isolation #18 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:53 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:53 am
what about de/mallow then? or the other pair that woke at 6?
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Post #79 (isolation #19 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:55 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:55 am
ok de follower mallow thief
VOTE: mallow
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Post #81 (isolation #20 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:56 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:56 am
math i think youre forgetting that the thief can kinda make people followers
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Post #84 (isolation #21 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:58 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:58 am
i bet mallow is sharing a helping of cheese under those covers
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Post #85 (isolation #22 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:58 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:58 am
In post 83 , NDMath wrote:
cheese was stolen at 1
you saw mallow at not 1
it cannot be mallow thief
who saw it being stolen?
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Post #87 (isolation #23 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:59 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:59 am
and why cant it be you or the skygazer/whoever else duo
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Post #88 (isolation #24 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:00 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:00 am
UNVOTE: , i guess
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Post #90 (isolation #25 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:03 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:03 am
so its either skygazer/other person interchangeably or ndmath/{skygazer or other person} with nd thief
so in all 4 cases skygazer and his partner are thief in only 1 case each
math is thief in 2 cases
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Post #91 (isolation #26 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am
right silverclaw! sorry for calling you other person im lazy
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Post #94 (isolation #28 ) » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:08 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:08 am
nd woke at 2 am
nd what was your follow result btw?
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Post #105 (isolation #29 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:51 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:51 am
you do realize both of you could have woke up at 1am
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Post #106 (isolation #30 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:52 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:52 am
either way ndmath is 50% for me
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Post #108 (isolation #31 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:48 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:48 am
im assuming ndmath claimed a track on silverclaw
so its just me vs ndmath here ig
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Post #109 (isolation #32 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:56 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:56 am
we have a 50% chance of winning normally, and a 50% chance if we try to tie the vote (follower is one of the 4)
the second option might actually be a good idea since the follower is 100% going to vote me, so this could mitigate any bias by forcing the follower to bus their teammate
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Post #111 (isolation #33 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:01 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:01 am
so
me: nd + 2 people
nd: me + 2 people
we already win if the follower is voting the non-thief
theres also the order in which we agree to end the day. me and nd vote to end day and then we can force one person we think could be the follower (disallowing them from pivoting), which should result in slightly higher odds?
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Post #112 (isolation #34 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:02 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:02 am
@mod does everyone have to agree to end day or only a simple majority?
Edit replied instead of quote replied, that's why there is an edit, sorry - Mod
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Post #115 (isolation #35 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:42 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:42 am
oh hey i just got back
In post 114 , Mizzytastic wrote:
Everyone, it's mostly in the sense of no one feels like they have anything left to contribute.
is there still majority voting? as in, does the day end when 4 people vote for one player?
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Post #116 (isolation #36 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:01 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:01 am
if there is majority voting then my plan is just ruined but the rules don't seem to say there is majority voting
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Post #117 (isolation #37 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:03 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:03 am
i say, if we end up doing my plan, DE and mallow can vote me, skygazer and silverclaw can vote ndmath, then we just have to guess who
isn't
the follower, and i don't think mallow is the follower tbh, so mallow can vote to end day last
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Post #118 (isolation #38 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:05 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:05 am
oh and even if we do choose the follower they would have to be voting the thief
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Post #120 (isolation #39 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:10 am
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In post 119 , DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 117 , camelCasedSnivy wrote:
i say, if we end up doing my plan, DE and mallow can vote me, skygazer and silverclaw can vote ndmath, then we just have to guess who isn't
the follower, and i don't think mallow is the follower tbh, so mallow can vote to end day last
lol I was having doubts on you being Cheese Thief but mallow is literally my number 1 candidate for follower out of everyone regardless of who's the Cheese Thief.
Silverclaw should vote last.
well if I'm thief and mallow is follower then just have skygazer and silverclaw swap votes
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Post #121 (isolation #40 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:10 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:10 am
*mallow and silverclaw lol im dumb
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Post #122 (isolation #41 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:11 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:11 am
wait actually skygazer and silverclaw can vote me and de and mallow can vote nd then
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Post #124 (isolation #42 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:12 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:12 am
lets just wait on mod response and if there's no majority
de can stay on me
math and silverclaw vote me
i can stay on nd
mallow and skygazer vote nd
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Post #125 (isolation #43 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:13 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:13 am
well it doesn't matter who thinks who its just that i think you're the follower so you cant pivot over onto me from nd
i guess it doesn't matter if silverclaw is hamering though
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Post #127 (isolation #44 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:15 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:15 am
also the fact that you think i would go through this effort to find the most optimal strategy and supposedly make it obvious its me + mallow lmao
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Post #128 (isolation #45 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:16 am
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In post 126 , DragonEater70 wrote:
how did you reach this conclusion when I was the main person pushng the one you are now pushing?
simple
the follower is the loudest so they can divert the attention off of the thief
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Post #132 (isolation #46 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:45 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:45 am
sure
also damn, i did NOT think about that
ill take it into account but nd could still be scum, and that also furthers my theory of you being a follower
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Post #133 (isolation #47 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:47 am
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we COULD do
3 way split: me, nd, skygazer
its the same thing where we just have to decide who isn't a follower but whoever votes who doesn't really matter because the follower can pivot from a non-thief
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In post 135 , Skygazer wrote:
it makes no sense to three way split with me bc i'm mechanically not the thief and we need to vote the thief???
In post 130 , DragonEater70 wrote:
Theoretically, Skygazer could've stolen the cheese at 1 AM, then picked Silverclaw as follower (Silverclaw really did wake up at 6 AM), and then Skygazer fluked and claimed the same time that Silverclaw woke up.
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Post #138 (isolation #49 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:53 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:53 am
we
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do a 4-way split, which would be 50% town winrate worst case
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Post #143 (isolation #50 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:10 am
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In post 142 , Skygazer wrote:
In post 2 , Mizzytastic wrote:
The player with the most votes, or players tied for the most votes will have their role cards revealed. The Sleepyheads win if the Cheese Thief is revealed, otherwise the Cheese Thief and their Followers win.
arguably we could all self vote or vote in a circle and have a 100% win rate
we would need to have one person who is confirmed sleepyhead (not thief or follower)
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Post #147 (isolation #51 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:19 am
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In post 145 , Skygazer wrote:
In post 143 , camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 142 , Skygazer wrote:
In post 2 , Mizzytastic wrote:
The player with the most votes, or players tied for the most votes will have their role cards revealed. The Sleepyheads win if the Cheese Thief is revealed, otherwise the Cheese Thief and their Followers win.
arguably we could all self vote or vote in a circle and have a 100% win rate
we would need to have one person who is confirmed sleepyhead (not thief or follower)
how so?? the language just says we win if a cheese thief is revealed. if we need a non cheese thief left alive then a follower wouldn't necessarily be disqualifying in which case we know silverclaw cant be the thief and would be safe to have as last alive
the hammerer can change their vote before deciding to end day (which could be a thief or a follower)
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Post #149 (isolation #52 ) » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:13 pm
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by camelCasedSnivy » Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:13 pm
as in, the person who decides to vote to end day last can change their vote before doing so
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Post #159 (isolation #53 ) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:22 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:22 am
im thinking of literally any way the thief can get around autoloss. i doubt mizzy didnt take this into consideratiob
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Post #160 (isolation #54 ) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:22 am
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In post 159 , camelCasedSnivy wrote:
im thinking of literally any way the thief can get around autoloss. i doubt mizzy didnt take this into consideration
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Post #166 (isolation #55 ) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:39 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:39 am
hold on
more mod questions incoming
@mod if everyone had one vote on them when the day ends, would everyone be revealed?
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Post #171 (isolation #56 ) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:43 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:43 am
we can do a split on me/sky/de/nd since the thief is confirmed in that group
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Post #173 (isolation #57 ) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:11 am
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by camelCasedSnivy » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:11 am
In post 172 , Silverclaw wrote:
The more people we include in the tie, the easier it is for thief and follower to get their way with it. 2 is fine, 3 is really pushing it because thief or follower can vote late.
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Post #174 (isolation #58 ) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:11 am
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In post 151 , Mizzytastic wrote:
To clarify, I would not allow the hammerer to change their vote then be the last player to say they want voting closed, them changing their vote would give everyone else a chance to reconsider.
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