Secret Hitler 2 (Game over!)

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/in
love secret hitler

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aight
mallow is probs a fascist tbh so is shrek

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gbt is conf liberal

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in the game not rl obv

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Hello everyone. Let's try to get some healthcare and education reforms, before we go dividing the country, shall we?

Having said that, @Shrek: you seem overly defensive. This is, in a sense, a mafia variant, so of course people will bring the way they play mafia to this game. Anyway, how can initial conversation hurt? If the president is a liberal, and this helps him find a second liberal to nominate for Chancellor, then that would give us a decent chance to start with a liberal policy.

I like gbt, so far. They look like a fighter for the people.

@rando: You had a libread on gbt. Even gbt themselves is not sure how you got it. Care to explain?

It was bc of the meme tbh

How many of you have played this before?

I have

I dont have a serious fascist read on Shrek. It's how you get the ball rolling. I agree with i think it was pabs who said that militos was potential fascist? Anyone trying to bandwagon shrek is suspicious.

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@random: Meme? Do you mean the picture? Also, there is no voting people out of the game, so bandwagons don't apply. If you consider me questioning Shrek (or indeed anyone) suspicious, then how exactly do you expect the game to proceed? You say that you gave a non-serious read to get the ball rolling, but it's meaningless if there is no further discussion afterwards. The ball is supposed to go uphill, so you can't just get it rolling and then stop.

Incidentally, were all three of your reads non-serious? Do you have any other reads, besides the one on me?

they weren't made up or anything, but they were more twangs than actual reads.

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i will be a good chancellor tho

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i will be voting nein.

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random only had the choice of 2 Liberal policies btw

confirming this.

why would you be pocketed by me picking you though? like that's not a play i'd townread anyone for lol

also talk to me about your scumread of me - like i feel like i'm fairly obvtown to someone who's played with me before (??) and usually your read on me as scum has aligned with how i feel about my play (scumreading hydra blitz me, townreading pyp - i dont think your 1718 read of me ever made sense so i'm not counting that) so im not sure where it's coming from

i feel like i am obviously liberal to people who have both skydived and attended my 23rd birthday party with me so not townreading me is your own fault

can confirm this is accurate.

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yes.
{mallow, militos, pabs, shrek} would be my pool for this election. would be willing to ja a few others though.

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RC is lockliberal.

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yes.
{mallow, militos, pabs, shrek} would be my pool for this election. would be willing to ja a few others though.

Why not Byf?

I'm fairly sure that militos and pabs are liberal and dont really want to test them atm, and shrek gives me the impression he'd play a fascist card as a liberal if given a choice

i'd probably pick mallow from those four right now

pedit: towniest post in the thread wow

byf is too null for me rn. i dont rly have a read to test.

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we got a liberal policy passed first so we can afford to go for tests rather than conf liberal policy atm

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@n_m have you played SH before?

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also poss. both are fascist and all 3 cards were liberal

Why would we not claim 2f1l then?

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@n_m have you played SH before?

No but I'd watched part of a game so it wasn't completely new to me

Ok ty.

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also poss. both are fascist and all 3 cards were liberal

Why would we not claim 2f1l then?

I agree this would make more sense, but I feel like saying all 3 are liberal could be used to clear them too. It's more of a null I feel.

3 lib doesnt clear tho?

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{mallow, militos, pabs, shrek} would be my pool for this election. would be willing to ja a few others though.

I'd be okay with those too

I'd like to hear more about random's and N_M's thoughts on this pool. I know that gt has pretty well explained their choices, I'm still curious where those four came from and why. I think I'm more interested in n_m's thoughts for some reason.

This game seems to lag during the vote phase, any thoughts on this? I just looked at thread for results and it appears that everything blows up right after.

they are my null-liberal reads. more likely to pass liberal motions and helps me to sort them.
it's the influx of new info that causes a lot of discussion which naturally picks up unrelated sorting topics as well so things tend to play out in that period.

I'm awake, I'm awake.

@random: The fact that you could have claimed 2f1l doesn't mean you would necessarily have, so the possibility that there were 3 lib cards is still there, as is the possibility that either or both of you are fascist-aligned. So, RC is technically correct.

Testing the nullreads is probably alright, and I'm mostly fine with GBT's pool.

Before that, though, I'd like to ask RC why he is claiming to have forgotten to PM Umlaut in post 194. Umlaut's 190 announcing the votes seems to have come almost 6 hours before the deadline listed in 189, so it would be reasonable to conclude that everyone PMed Umlaut by then.

i agree the possibility is there, but the only reason not to claim 2f1l is for WIFOM. ignoring WIFOM 2f1l is 100% the most optimal claim for double fascists.

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idek why im defending this so hard lol nm is p null for me

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i ja'd

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It's an empirical rather than spiritual/moral truth tho

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they may or may not be hitler tho

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ALISAEEEEEEE
i will ja btw

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well fuck you too alisae

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well then

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like shrek is just scum: period. i have no idea how much weed yall smoked before you jaed that but y'know.

My first reaction was 2f cuz why in 1f1l does he go so ham to force a 1v1 but pablito's been sorta liberal-ish so I'm kinda okay with them

ftr i agree with this.

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im jaing this for controversy

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I am up for a byf nom, still want to sort him. Gbt would be a good invest imo

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Rc if everyone disagrees with you maybe you are wrong

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I agreed with you on shrek tbf

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Like GBT is the towniest player in this game or close to it and this magical townblock that mostly contains scum says to investigate them? no.

I'm not sure on gbt. I want an invest bc if their alignment can be ascertained then they will be useful in a libblock

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Okay well think about it this way: ALL TEN people shut down Pablito. Pablito probably town because of that. That means scum wanted someone after Pablito, and no one is pushing us to skip Mitillos.
Now right now I think that Mallow is scum anyway and the actual scumteam is something like

<Mallow/Mitillos/Shrek/{+1}>

but everyone just being perfectly comfortable with them making a pick that I don't agree with is not at all okay fmpov and I want the investigation this time to actually come from town and say something

pabs was never getting through. no motivation for fascists to nein.

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If you think Cowbells is a facist then everything will make sense in the end.

Explain?

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Alisae do you have a serious narrative or not?

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Why not mallow?

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I would personally prefer you were invested bc i think you are fascist, but from your perspective?

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i think we should ja this

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feel like scum are trying to ja this

why would i not try to ja myself

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Alisae is probs fasc
@byf my recommendation for noms out of your pool would be me or nm

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This is v useful content

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^

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Reluctantly jaing this

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I support an rc invest

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scum are pushing the idea that I'm lockscum as a group so uhh yeah.

note that no one who isn't a scumfuck is pushing those views

Ur a scumfuck tho

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Ok yku might not be but

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I am hwre but too tired for analysis will return

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Im undecided on this gov

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I am scum but not a fascist do u feel me

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I neined bc rc avi is trash

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I neined bc rc avi is trash

Random if you're town you have to ja.

Maybe I did, maybe i didnt
I am an enigma

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If a lib gets passed here we win right?

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This doesnt rly need to be said but rc is scum
Suggestions for noms from non rc ppl?

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From my perspective you are a good nom but idk others thoughts

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Thing giving me pause there is rc's insistence on nomming you

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nom: giga

Ehhhhhhhhh
Rc is acum but right now im kinda busy and cant invest into the game to prove it
Bware whoever rc tries to push as noms

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^
Not 100% sure on mallow but it is the main thing making me not 100% sure on them being a fasc

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Not ja'ing Alisae, period.
RC, sell me on your townread of Mitillos. Why do you townread them more than me?

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{1/2 Shrek-Pabs}
EIther both of Mallow/N_M or 1 + 1 of {BYF/Giggles/Mitillos}

I remember you considered the possibility that both Shrek and Pablito could be scum. What changed?

It didnt fit the false narrative that lets them take over the game
Me/n_m/shrek is a solid townbloc now for being the only ones questioning rc

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All i have to say is: look at how rc went from being widely read as a fascist to controlling the game despite passing a fascist policy and those who supported him in doing it

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A lot of people were going along with your plan
The only people really objecting to it were me shrek and nm who dont exactly make up a powerhouse bloc

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Shrek is obvlib tbh

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I have misread the situation

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i fgot nm and shrek confused

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Me/n_m/shrek is a solid townbloc now for being the only ones questioning rc

The only people really objecting to it were me shrek and nm who dont exactly make up a powerhouse bloc

Shrek is obvlib tbh

i fgot nm and shrek confused

Make up your mind. Are both N_M and Shrek solidly lib? Or not that solidly? Or is only Shrek obvlib? Or is it only N_M?

@pabs: I had asked you about your reason for voting nein on RC/me. I don't think you ever responded. Also, any thoughts on the 3 neins in a row plan?

Both are solid lib but i was thinking about nm but said shrek in the post by accident

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nom shrek imo

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Did the whole scumteam just scumclaim?

they did. sadly some liberal voters also voted with them so we have to narrow it down from a pool of 6.

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its quicker to let it time out

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it was quite amusing to see rc claiming i was obv scum after getting a guilty on me having been looking for town with the invest
gg tho.

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^
that was what lost us the game. we could afford to sacrifice pabs+mallow but with me gone as well we didnt have the numbers to win the game

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^
i would say 48 hours rather than 72 hours would be fine
it was really well emulated gameplay-wise and well modded so ty for modding it