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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:45 pm

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Awesome, thanks! Thinking about it the foundry should probably wait until the next month since we only have one free space and a lift+power generator after should be the next two things we get but I will probably save that one spot for the foundry to get the workshop adjacency bonus. Also it's probably worth getting one more research done before arc thrower since we still need 5 days for the lift+5 days for excavation+5 or 10 days for the power generator before we can finally start actually building the containment (which'll take another 5 or 10 days to finish)

We've got a ton of promotions and research choices but I'm gonna wait til this weekend to put them all out in the hopes of getting a writeup done by sunday night to put in front of it.

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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:22 pm

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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:49 am

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Gamma got an insane 8/9 overwatch shots hitting in his last mission. I've never seen such a thing!

I agree with finding another research before Arc Thrower then. Probably one of the autopsies. Floater seems best based on what KA just posted.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:31 am

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First, I'm an idiot and what I said was floater was actually the seeker autopsy, because my short term memory lasts less than two minutes. The floater autopsy was practically useless from what I remember, though I should probably check again now. EDIT: Confirmed this, and editing my previous post now.

Second, I don't actually have a second because I thought I was going to have to mention the cost of building a foundry, therefore needing more power, and then buying stuff from it, but that was because I thought you were talking about something else because of point one.

EDIT: Third, I think one of the countries Gamma is forced to send a satellite to is South American, there are only two countries there, and their continent bonus completes all interrogations and autopsies instantly. So if I'm remembering all of that right then it might be better to wait for any of them until he has a free satellite to get the bonus with.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:36 am

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In post 203, KingdomAces wrote:First, I'm an idiot and what I said was floater was actually the seeker autopsy, because my short term memory lasts less than two minutes. The floater autopsy was practically useless from what I remember, though I should probably check again now. EDIT: Confirmed this, and editing my previous post now.

Second, I don't actually have a second because I thought I was going to have to mention the cost of building a foundry, therefore needing more power, and then buying stuff from it, but that was because I thought you were talking about something else because of point one.

EDIT: Third, I think one of the countries Gamma is forced to send a satellite to is South American, there are only two countries there, and their continent bonus completes all interrogations and autopsies instantly. So if I'm remembering all of that right then it might be better to wait for any of them until he has a free satellite to get the bonus with.


first part is noted

third part is kinda wrong, we're suuuper fine on the south american front, we're getting slammed in Europe and Asia (the other country thats going to panic after the next mission is Mexico, not anything in South America) so it'd be nice to save Some autopsies until we can get some the continent bonus there it's not happening for a pretty long while (like at least 2 months, maybe more)
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:55 am

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...Mexico is close to South America?

Yeah, I thought that my memory might be a bit off there. Oh well, it's not like anyone thought I was actually smart after the last mistake anyway.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:39 am

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Update may or may not be finished before the stream tonight but I'm hopefully I can get it done.

Several of these use Defense, it's subtracted from the enemies chance to hit so +5 defense=-5 aim for anyone that shoots at them.
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Phantom (Sniper): Close Combat Specialist (Gets a reaction shot against anyone who gets within 4 tiles of her, doesn't require overwatch) OR Tactical Sense (+5 Defense per enemy in sight, with a maximum of +20 defense)
Seedy Bee (Heavy): Suppression (Fires a shot that gives reaction fire against the target and gives the target -30 aim) OR Tactical Sense (+5 Defense per enemy in sight, with a maximum of +20 defense)
Robb Stark (Assault): Promotion 1-Deep Pockets (All limited use items in your inventory get one additional use [Medikits & grenades mostly, arc throwers should count too once we get them]) OR Rapid Reaction (Gives a 2nd reaction shot if the 1st one hits)
Promotion 2- Low Profile (Makes partial cover count as full [This shit is amazing]) OR Close and Personal (Gets a reaction shot against anyone who gets within 4 tiles of her, doesn't require overwatch [This is also really really good for an assault])
SpyreX (GIANT ROBOT): Advanced Fire Control (Shots from overwatch no longer suffer any aim penalty) OR Automated Threat Assessment (+15 Defense while in overwatch)
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So we're not going to Mexico because having the majority of two continents panicing is bad, which means Mexico is panicing here no matter what. Aside from them, we can either have 3 countries panicing in Europe+ India (total of 5 inc. Mex) if we go to Australia, or have india and Australia keep panicing (total of 3 inc. Mex). We will have three satelittes at the end of the month so IF (if is large) no other abduction missions happen we can save all 3 of Mexico+India+Australia. If not then I'm going to be abandoning asian countries as necessary because we'll have their continent bonus forever from starting there.

The other option is to go to Australia and just throw satelittes at Europe to get its bonus faster but we would still need to get another uplink+satelitte before that can happen. I'm willing to do it if you guys think its best but it doesn't seem like a particularly good plan to me.
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Carapace armor is DONE! It's awesome. Like daaamn. So is experimental warfare. We have probably around 25 days until we can build an alien containment with how long it'll take to excavate the base+build power for it, so I'd reccomend probably one more shortish research then getting arc thrower after that. alternatively, beam weapons then that because lazers are very very good. either's pretty fine.
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c)Alien Nav Computer - 20 days
d)Skeleton Suit - 40 days
e)UFO Power Source - 28 days
f)Sectoid Autopsy - 8 days
g)Thin Man Autopsy- 8 days
h)Floater Autopsy - 8 days
i)Muton Autopsy - 8 days
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l)Seeker Autopsy - 6 days (yeah i dunno why its shorter)
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:04 am

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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT GAMMA I'M STILL ALIVE

Anyway, clearly there's no way I'm taking bonus defence. It's got to be
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I usually prefer to go straight to Plasmas but I don't know how feasible that is on this difficulty level. Will edit in a vote later
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:13 am

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they made plasma weapons take longer to research and way more expensive in alloys+dollars to actually buy them afterwards if i'm remembering right, I think it's still generally doable but heavys+snipers usability suffer a lot in the extra time it takes to get them plasma.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:23 am

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That's not necessarily a downside for me here...
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:46 am

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I'm fairly sure that I never built a single beam rifle in my game (which I really need to get back to soon), so if it was increased it has something to do with difficulty. But then again, we have ways, so my research time may have been reduced to like 25% of the original time. I did still research beam weapons/precision lasers (and eventually heavy lasers), but the fact that I got the arc thrower early and made researching light plasma rifles just as easy if not easier than beam rifles allowed me to get weapons that have the same stats except an additional +10 aim bonus for free.

In this case though, no alien containment coming any time soon kind of negates all of that. So yeah, probably beam weapons. Though it might not actually be too soon to start thinking about getting the firestorm. I'll have to double check some stuff before actually saying anything major about that though.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:50 am

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the ufo power source does have a new perk to researching it as well if you just want to research something biggish but not beam weapons (and it'll get us closer to firestorms)- it unlocks tier 2 MEC suits, which gives the user a bit more health and either a grenade launcher or a healing mist ability.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:47 am

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Reccomendations?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:16 pm

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for your promotion I'd go tactical sense, Close Combat Specialist is usually really good but it's the opposite of what you want snipers to usually be doing (and sniper rifles take an aim penalty if enemies are too close as well)
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:25 pm

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ill do that
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:11 pm

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Gamma?
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:13 pm

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hi!

was about to post about there not being anyone watching and needing a research choice since nobody actually posted a vote >_>
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:14 pm

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I vote nav computer then!
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:15 pm

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Okay, it will just be me and you then, lol.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:20 pm

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beam weps too
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:39 pm

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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:40 pm

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im on mobile
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:45 pm

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SPOTTY INTERNET

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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:17 pm

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Fun stream this week! Lots of drama. :)

Rating: Terrible!
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:20 pm

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I'm kind of upset that I missed the first mission, but the second one done was, well, interesting.

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I also may have insulted the abilities of the EXALT right before they made the rating terrible. Oops.
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