The Resistance: Mission 1 (Leader beastcharizard)

[Aronis]

I'm refusing any mission with BBmolla

Didn't you already say that… ?

*See Below*

Since I'm supposed to commit apparently, I refuse to accept any team that doesn't have me, BPC, and beast.

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I would like Beast to answer my question as to who he would like to take with him if he had to select a mission with himself on it.

I just thought that part needed extra emphasis.

[Mitillos]

@Aronis: Some explanations for your reads would be welcome (plus some more reads). I can only see a bit about your BBMolla read. Why is BPC town? Also, you're kinda hedging on beast. It's unclear whether you think he's town or scum. Which is it, and why?

[Titus]

Titus give me sufficient reasoning for why you believe Beast faked the knowledge of not knowing how many scum there are

Militis said it better than me. Two fails means at least two scum. Either beast is not reading, and thus a liability or he's scum. I don't really see beast being careless in any game.

Aronis is town because of his systemic approach that has no contractions in it as far as I see.

You just like to grasp at anything people like to scumread here.

[Aronis]

@Aronis: Some explanations for your reads would be welcome (plus some more reads). I can only see a bit about your BBMolla read. Why is BPC town? Also, you're kinda hedging on beast. It's unclear whether you think he's town or scum. Which is it, and why?

I do not have any more reads I'm willing to share at this time.

BPC feels pretty town right now to me.

Beast townslipped. Plain and simple.

[Titus]

That was not a townslip Aronis.

We need a mission down here already.

[beastcharizard]

Me/molla/aronis

The other two are calling me town and that would be stupid as hell to do as scum. Also warm fuzzy feelings.

[BipolarChemist]

Sorry, I ended up taking a self-imposed project on this evening

I'm pretty much rejecting any team Beast makes so meh!

[BipolarChemist]

And yes that's saying I'm more or less calling his 'town-slip' just null.

[BBmolla]

Can we just move on to bpc leader I wanna see what he suggests

[Mitillos]

@Molla: Are you saying you will also reject beast's team? Otherwise, why would you ask to move to the next leader? And if so, what happened to your beast townread? Also, you still haven't answered some of my other questions:

Why are Aronis and Titus scum? Why are Blackberry and I town? Is your third scum choice (one of BPC/Wisdom) due to PoE, or what?

@Aronis: OK, so you won't give other reads, but at least explain the BPC and molla ones. "BPC feels pretty town" is not an explanation as to why you are townreading him, just a statement of the fact that you are doing so. Also, what do you think about beast's suggested team in post 130?

[Titus]

Me/molla/aronis

The other two are calling me town and that would be stupid as hell to do as scum. Also warm fuzzy feelings.

Someone get the memo. Buddying has ceased to exist. :/

[Titus]

Can we just move on to bpc leader I wanna see what he suggests

Something we agree on.


Beast, just boldyour plan so it can be rejected and move on.

[Aronis]

@Molla: Are you saying you will also reject beast's team? Otherwise, why would you ask to move to the next leader? And if so, what happened to your beast townread? Also, you still haven't answered some of my other questions:

Why are Aronis and Titus scum? Why are Blackberry and I town? Is your third scum choice (one of BPC/Wisdom) due to PoE, or what?

@Aronis: OK, so you won't give other reads, but at least explain the BPC and molla ones. "BPC feels pretty town" is not an explanation as to why you are townreading him, just a statement of the fact that you are doing so. Also, what do you think about beast's suggested team in post 130?

I'm tired tonight, but fyi I'm having second thoughts about bpc, sorta jumped the gun on that read I guess. I'll explain molla in a bit.

[Thurhame]

A reminder that the deadline is in a little over 4 hours.

[Thurhame]

Beastcharizard has been prodded.

[Blackberry]

I'm kinda basing all my reads off of Beast right now:

If Beast is scum, BBMolla is town because Beast suggested me-him-Molla. When we turned that down he randomly went to Titus/Aronis/BPC. This led me to believe:

Molla - Town
Beast - Scum
Titus/Aronis/BPC - 1 Scum
Mitilos/Wisdom - 1 Scum

... I wanted to see who beast would choose again if I asked him to pick 2 people including himself. He has selected Aronis & Molla in response to my question.

Going off my theory that Beast is scum, this means:

Beast - Scum
Titus/BPC - 1 Scum (leaning BPC Scum, Titus town)
Mitilos/Wisdom - 1 Scum

Me, Aronis, Molla - All town

I would like someone to propose a Me/Molla/Aronis mission.

Thoughts? ^_^

[Mitillos]

@Berry: Why would that make Molla town? Why would Titus/Aronis/BPC contain exactly one scum? I'm not following this at all.

[Blackberry]

@Berry: Why would that make Molla town? Why would Titus/Aronis/BPC contain exactly one scum? I'm not following this at all.

Because if Beast is scum, he wants 1

and only 1

scum on the mission. Thus, if he is scum, Molla is town. It explains why he suddenly went from Me-Molla-himself to 3 other people (Titus-Aronis-BPC) not mentioned previously.

[Mitillos]

Why does he want only one scum? I understand why he would want one in there, but why would he mind there being two?

[Blackberry]

I'm contemplating whether I should answer or not. XD

Mod

- can you confirm, that like the game, scum are NOT allowed to communicate AT ALL outside the thread (pregame or during the game)?

If you have 2 scum on the team and they both put FAIL then everyone knows there's two scum in that group. Thus the optimal strategy for scum is to have 1 and exactly 1 scum in the group or A) they risk exposing both scum or B) they both vote to succeed and the town gets a point.

Btw, I just want to throw out if this was not communicated to scum and they HAVE talked outside the thread pre or postgame that we should immediately discard the game and restart. I'm sensing some people are newer to the game and if any of the scum didn't realize this is supposed to be a rule and have communicated with each other it does change the game quite a bit.

[Mitillos]

Actually, yeah, I did think that scum had at least had pre-game communication, if not full communication.

If that's not true, then I can understand your reasoning.

[Blackberry]

Scum can not have any type of communication in this game, including pre-game. Period. Or it'll completely break the game in their favor.

[Thurhame]

Mod

- can you confirm, that like the game, scum are NOT allowed to communicate AT ALL outside the thread (pregame or during the game)?

Correct. No communication outside the thread is allowed. This is explicitly stated in the Agents' role PMs, an example of which can be seen in post 1.

[Mitillos]

Alright, so Blackberry's analysis makes sense (unless beast didn't think things through, or he is town).

[Titus]

@Blackberry, that is true unless someone gives them the ability to talk by starting that conversation.

@Militos, How does BB's theory relate to Beast faking that?