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Worldwide Flight Race 2 - Who came first?

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:30 am

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Rather than following the traditional amazing race format, I've decided to base the game more on a deterministic points format (which refreshes each leg) combined with a stronger focus on researching which flight to take. Rather than variation of play relying on roadblocks/detours/navigation, variation in arrival times will be decided on knowing when it is most advantageous to work faster in the leg of the race or knowing if it is essential to take the quickest flight.

Before the game even begins, players will determine a huge part of their fate in the game by determining how they will prioritize the three major air alliances for flight purchasing. This is because time and effort will be spent if you decide to go with a different air alliance than your number one choice. Players who have flight research efficiency and can predict "bunching" or hours of operation will quickly find themselves at the head of the pack. Note: Players are individuals and have no interaction with other players. Alliances will do nothing in this game.

There will be no challenges, as this game is based on deterministic points. This allows an equal playing ground.


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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:31 am

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Basic leg format:


Start Point - Given 100 points
->Task/Transportation (Use Points here)
International Flight to intermediate city
->Task/Transportation (Use more points)
International Flight to final city
->Task/Transportation (Use more points)
->Final Task/Transport (All leftover points used)
Finish Line

Tasks/Transportation

  • You will not participate in any challenges. At the beginning of the leg, you are given 100 points to use during the entire leg. You will receive 100 points in the next leg, so it is to your advantage to use all points. These points will represent the amount of effort you can use during the task/transport.
  • There are various formulas used for the 4 Task/Transportation sections of each leg. The "effort used" (points used in that task/transport) may be multiplied by a percentage to give your "time used" during the task/transportation. The "effort used" may give you a specific "time used" if you are within a certain range of points. You will not be informed of which formula will be used and there is no way possible to predict what is the optimal amount of points.
  • Sometimes hours of operation or standardized transportation may occur (ie: time credits added to the running total)


Flights

  • There are always two flights that occur within a travel leg. Aside from rare exceptions, all air alliances fly between the two cities. However, flights on one air alliance will get you to the destination earlier than other alliances.
  • Before the game begins, you will rank order the three air alliances:
  • Whenever you purchase a flight, you will waste 0 minutes and 0 points if you want to fly on your #1 air alliance.
  • If you choose to go with your #2 alliance, you waste 30 minutes pre-flight and 15 points at the airport counter.
  • If you choose to go with your #3 alliance, you waste 60 minutes pre-flight and 30 points at the airport counter.
  • If you choose to go with an airline that does not belong to any air alliance you waste 45 minutes and 25 points.
  • This means that to switch a flight to a non-priority alliance, you will "spend" extra time trying to convince the attendant to let you on. Therefore, you must arrive at the airport early enough to be able to switch to a non-priority alliance flight. Therefore you must decide whether it is advantageous to switch to a different flight or if you should save your points for a task/transportation section. In many instances, you will get to the finish line quicker if you do not take the quickest flight.
  • Players must find flight information and times on their own. Players should verify their information before sending it in to ensure accuracy.
  • Flights chosen do not have to reflect actual flight availability and flight prices do not matter. If a flight uses multiple airline alliances, the lowest priority airline alliance will be used.


Eliminations

  • For each leg of the race, one (or more) player(s) will be eliminated. The last player(s) to the pit stop will be eliminated. This will continue until the final leg where the final players will race to be the first ones to the finish line.
  • For any non-elimination legs, the last place player will receive a penalty of 15 points for the following leg.
  • Failure to meet the 24 hour deadline of any action/flight will cause one strike and loss of 15 points immediately. Three strikes total will mean you will be automatically eliminated.
  • If you're on V/LA please let me know a time when we can complete live at some point so that the game is not held up too much. Deadlines will not affect those on official V/LA.
  • No random factors will occur in this game, it is all based on your strategy.


Gameplay

At the beginning of the leg you will be told what the first task/transportation will be plus you will be told what is the maximum amount of time (if you spend 0 points) that could be spent on the task/transportation. Also, if you use 100 points on a single task, it does not necessarily mean that you will waste 0 minutes at the task/transportation. Once you receive this information via QT, please reply back to say how many of your 100 points you want to use for task/transportation A. While timeliness does not affect your current date/time in the race, failure to submit a reply in a timely manner (within 24 hrs) may result in time/point penalties.

You will get a reply saying how much time you spent at task/transportation A and what the current time/date is. Assume you are at the airport counter at this point and that you can board the flight immediately (ie: you arrive at airport at 14:10 and the flight leaves at 14:11 - you can take that one if it's your #1 airline alliance). You will then be told what the next city will be. You will then have to research flights to the next city on your own accord using whatever information you have available. I will have the most updated information that is
independent
of flight availability. Once you find the flight you want, then please message me the flight number/time that you want to fly on.

I will reply confirming if you made the flight and will tell you your arrival time. I will then tell you what task/transportation B is. Please reply saying how many points you want to use.

Once that's complete, you will be told the final city for this leg of the race. Look up flights and then reply with your flight of choice.

Once you arrive in the final city, you will be told task/transportation C. The points that you do not use on task/transportation C will be used for task/transportation D. However, you will not be told what task/transportation D is until after you finish section C. Therefore you have to guess if section D may take more time than section C.

You will be then told your arrival time via QT. Once all players have completed the leg, results will be posted in thread. Subsequently some players may finish the leg in 10 real time minutes and others may take days. Because there is no interaction between players in the race and unlimited flight ability, there is no need to wait for players before you complete your race leg.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:21 am

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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:49 am

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In post 2, JDGA wrote:/in
So the time you spend researching isn't counted against you?



Correct. The game is not live. 24 hour deadline each action. Sign up as singles.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:32 am

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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:28 am

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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:15 am

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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:48 pm

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:52 pm

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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:08 pm

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Sample Leg


Joe, Olly and Stacey are racing starting in Seoul. Joe begins at 12:23 28th March 2010. Olly begins 13:11 same day and Stacey begins at 13:23. Contestants leave 12 hours after they arrive at the pitstop from the previous leg.

Joe's Priority List (Sky Team, Star Alliance, One World)
Olly's (Star Alliance, One World, Sky Team)
Stacey's (One World, Star Alliance, Sky Team)

"Clue 1:
Take a Cab from Olympic Park to Incheon International Airport. (Max 45 mins)"

Joe chooses to use 10 effort points (90 remain)
Olly chooses to use 23 effort points (77 remain)
Stacey chooses to use 14 effort points (86 remain)

"Clue 2:
Board a plane from Incheon to Tokyo's Narita Airport."

Joe receives message that he arrived at airport at 13:03, Olly receives message that he arrived at airport at 13:31, Stacey receives message that she arrived at airport at 13:53.

All contestants see the following flights:
oneworld - 13:50>16:15, 17:35>20:00
star alliance - 14:15>16:35
sky team - 18:45>20:55

Joe chooses to bump himself from sky team to star alliance. This wastes 30 mins and 15 effort. He is now at 13:33 and 75 effort points. He will land in Tokyo (Narita) at 16:35

Olly takes the star alliance flight for no cost. He has 77 effort points remaining. He will land at 16:35 with Joe.

Stacey barely misses the first oneworld flight but has chosen to take the hit and stick with oneworld even though she could take the next star alliance. She has 86 effort points remaining and arrives at 20:00

"Clue 3:
Take a train (leaves every 15 minutes) to Tokyo Station and walk to the Imperial Palace where you will you have to learn a traditional dance. Once the judge determines that you have completed the dance, you will go back to Narita Airport. (Max 2:30)"

Joe decides to use 26 effort points. (49 remain)
Olly decides to use 12 effort points. (65 remain)
Stacey decides to use 16 effort points. (70 remain)

"Clue 4:
Board a plane to Manila's Ninoy Aquino International Airport"

Joe was told that he arrived at Narita at 18:19.
Olly was told that he arrived at Narita at 18:43.
Stacey was told that she arrived at Narita at 21:58.

They all see the following flights:

oneworld - 18:20>21:55, 18:30>9:55(+1); 9:30(+1)>13:05(+1)
staralliance - 20:30>11:50(+1)
skyteam - 13:55(+1)>23:00(+1)

Joe cannot take any oneworld flight as the switch would cost him an hour to bump down to the bottom of his list. He does go for the star alliance flight though at a cost of 15 more effort points. 35 points remain. Arrival at 11:50 29th Mar

Olly takes the star alliance flight at no cost. 65 points remain. Arrival 11:50 29th Mar

Stacey misses the star alliance flight but books the morning (29th march) flight at no cost. 70 points remain. Arrival 13:05 29th Mar

"Clue 5:
Drive yourself to SM City North EDSA - largest mall in the Philippines. Once you get there you will have to search the hundreds of stores for the one that sells a gold studded glove. (Max 4:00)"

Joe uses 16 points (19 points remain). Joe finishes task at 15:02 and will be told this in next reply.
Olly uses 35 points (30 points remain). Olly finishes at 14:05 and will be told in next reply.
Stacey uses 45 points (25 points remain). Stacey finishes at 14:50 and will be told in next reply.

"Clue 6:
Take a cab to Fort Santiago. The Pitstop for this leg of the race. The last team to arrive may be eliminated. (Max 2:00)"
(arrival time at pitstop is automatically calculated and posted with the last clue)

Joe automatically uses the 19 remaining points. Joe finishes at 16:24
Olly automatically uses the 30 remaining points. Olly finishes at 15:01
Stacey automatically uses the 25 remaining points. Stacey finishes at 16:09

The big difference in the leg seemed to be when Joe decided to bump to star alliance seoul->narita. It didn't give him the advantage and in the end, he had fewer effort points than Stacey who was lagging the entire time.

Hope this clears things up. Questions? Please ask.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:20 pm

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Also, the action decision threads will be hosted on an off-site forum so that I can move around threads easily and see replies in a centralized area. This thread should still be used for any communication or comments about the game. The off-site forum is mainly to avoid clogging my mail inbox.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:20 am

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We're researching real flights that actually exist and that I could theoretically buy a real ticket on, yes? Not just a list you give us?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:31 pm

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In post 11, Celandia wrote:We're researching real flights that actually exist and that I could theoretically buy a real ticket on, yes? Not just a list you give us?


Yes. You will be researching actual flights set for dates in the future. A big part of this game is being able to independently find the best flights.

Need minimum 6 more to start the race. No maximum.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:02 pm

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/in, hopefully this doesn't start this weekend!
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:00 am

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Will there be a way to spectate?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:21 am

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In post 14, Felissan wrote:Will there be a way to spectate?


Yes spectators are invited to register. Non players only have access to completed game threads.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:10 am

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Hrm, still need quite a few more sign-ups. Please tell your friends to sign-up!
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:50 am

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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:30 am

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Need 4 more to start. If it doesn't happen before Tuesday the 10th, the game won't start. It really ought to have 12 just to be safe, especially if people drop out along the way. I would rather not run a shortened version. Last boarding call before departure.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:26 am

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Is it possible that everyone starts off with 2 lives? If you come in last, you lose a life. Lose both lives and you're out. At a certain point (final 4/5?) those that still have 2 lives get some kind of bonus (e.g. start with 150 points instead of 100), and everyone goes to 1 life.

Just thinking of other ways to extend it :D
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:32 pm

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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:45 pm

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In post 19, gamsimbre wrote:Is it possible that everyone starts off with 2 lives? If you come in last, you lose a life. Lose both lives and you're out. At a certain point (final 4/5?) those that still have 2 lives get some kind of bonus (e.g. start with 150 points instead of 100), and everyone goes to 1 life.

Just thinking of other ways to extend it :D


In theory this sounds good, but with 24 hour deadlines, there's a likelihood of at least one player just simply DQing out. That would make the timeline a bit off and fairly swingy. The better option is just to have at least 12 players to work it out.

In the meanwhile, if you're still in, just PM me your alliance preference list so I can see who's still around and paying attention.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:16 pm

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I'm meant to have tried researching already?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:02 am

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In post 0, pablito wrote:
Before the game even begins, players will determine a huge part of their fate in the game by determining how they will prioritize the three major air alliances for flight purchasing.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:15 am

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Okay, if everyone currently on the list of 9 is still interested in playing and responds to PM and at least 2 more players sign-up today then I'll run it. It won't start until later this week to allow everyone to research air alliances and such. It'll also give me time to set up the board correctly.

Last call for boarding.
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