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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:48 am

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Proposal 352Any player voting yes on another player's proposal is awarded one point if that proposal passes.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:09 am

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hi hi hi :)

HEAL: 352
In post 0, 123456789 wrote:204. If and when rule-changes can be adopted without unanimity, the players who vote against winning proposals shall receive 2 points each.
wait why is this a rule?
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:14 am

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HEAL: 351
HURT: 349

Pedit: Because it was in the original nomic ruleset. I'm nearly done updating which should really be useful to everyone.
Edit2: HEAL: 352
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:25 am

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Exchange 1 Lighbulb for a Raspberry.

Consume one Raspberry.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:47 am

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So we get more points for naying a rule that gets passed, and atm we get no points for supporting a rule that gets passed?

thanks for updating everything :)

proposal 353: repeal 204
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:04 am

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Question: Is there currently a victory condition?
Propaganda: Anyone else interested in investing? The price is currently 4 lightbulbs, and you can sell to get more if others invest.
Action: Exchange 1 lightbulb for 1 raspberry.
Action: If I have no watermelons, exchange 1 point for 1 watermelon.
Action: Consume one raspberry, one orange, and one watermelon.
Proposal 354 -- Rule: A player may spend 8 lightbulbs to gain an extra vote on one proposal, overriding rule 331. This may only be done once per proposal.
Proposal 355 -- Rule: Every 48 hours, a player may acquire one lightbulb.
Proposal 356: Amend whatever rule created the lightbulb market to state this: "Any player may invest in the lightbulb market a maximum of three times, but not twice within 24 hours. The price to invest goes up every time a player invests, and goes down when a player withdraws (they receive their payment after withdrawing, therefore the price is adjusted before they get paid)."

(We do not have enough players for the market to become very profitable, so I am making it easier for the prices to soar. I know, the wording is awkward.)
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:13 am

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action: exchange 1 lightbulb for a raspberry
action: consume the raspberry

proposal 357: fruit currently in inventory rot if they are not consumed within 48 hours of this proposal passing; fruit obtained after this proposal passes rot if they are not consumed within 48 hours of obtaining them. Rotten fruit may not be consumed.

i like this rule but it may be hard for 123 to keep track of in practice, idk

HEAL: 354
abastaining on 355, I want to thinka bout it
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:29 am

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HURT: 355 I would like a different method that requires some work.
HEAL: 354. (Note that the second clause really isn't necessary as the rule already defers to future rules, but the rule is fine as-is.)
Abstaining on 353: I am ambivalent about the rule.
Abstaining on 356: Not sure I'm totally getting what you are saying there.
HEAL: 357

Also, part of the reason this pas update took so long was because I went back and saved everything that had happened so far to a local file which should make future updates easier. (I didn't want to copy-paste what I already had because the post numbers get replaced with the post ids and that takes up so much more space.)
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:35 am

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In post 230, 2 718281828459 wrote:Question: Is there currently a victory condition?
Propaganda: Anyone else interested in investing? The price is currently 4 lightbulbs, and you can sell to get more if others invest.
Action: Exchange 1 lightbulb for 1 raspberry.
Action: If I have no watermelons, exchange 1 point for 1 watermelon.
Action: Consume one raspberry, one orange, and one watermelon.
A few notes:
1) Yes, there is a victory condition: consume 7 unique fruits.
2) You cannot consume more than one fruit at a time. There is a 24h cooldown between consumptions, so I will take your action as meaning only eating the Raspberry.
3) A reminder that watermelons currently are not classified as fruits.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:41 am

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Oh, it seems I forgot to copy 334 and 335 to the active ruleset. This will be fixed in a second, but I think I actually handled everything related to them correctly.

Edit: UNVOTE: 357 --> That would actually be a maintenance nightmare, but I will do it if everyone else is in favor of it.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:47 am

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Proposal 358: Players may spend 10 lightbulbs to obtain a fridge. Fruit does not rot if it is placed inside the fridge. If the fruit is removed from the fridge and not consumed within 48 hours, it rots and may not be consumed after rotting.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:47 am

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whoops, nm lol
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:48 am

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Hi skitter!
In post 2, 123456789 wrote:8. Ruru - 0 Points, 0 Watermelons/Bees, 0 Oranges, 15 Lightbulbs, 0 Raspberries, 0 Lemons
Does 338 still apply to me even though I joined after it passed? If so,

Exchange lightbulb for raspberry

Eat raspberry
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:51 am

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I'm basically trying to make it harder to win because fruit seem kinda accessible atm.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:53 am

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In post 237, ruru wrote:Does 338 still apply to me even though I joined after it passed? If so,
No, but 334 does (since 332 got repealed.)

Also, I changed it to where active proposals and player details are in the second post while the initial ruleset and proposal history are in the third post.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:55 am

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In post 238, skitter30 wrote:I'm basically trying to make it harder to win because fruit seem kinda accessible atm.
Meh...

They have to be unique fruit. Watermelons and lemons aren't currently considered fruits. So that leaves oranges and raspberries. We need 7 unique fruits to win. I also don't think the fruit rotting rule makes it too much harder to win.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:04 am

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In post 232, 123456789 wrote:HURT: 355 I would like a different method that requires some work.
Proposition 359Once per 48 hours, each player may redeem one lightbulb by posting a unique sufficiently cute cat picture.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:29 pm

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HEAL: 359

Let's try to put them in spoilers tho
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:39 pm

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HURT: 359
1. This is subjective and vague.
2. It is not really any less work than my own income proposal.

HURT: 357, but if it passes I think we need 358, so HEAL: 358
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:09 pm

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HEAL: 358
Abstaining on 359...

We need a formal mechanism for abstaining, but my previous proposal on the matter got rejected for being too complex.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:59 pm

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proposal 349 wouldn't work, but for the purposes of me being a bitch:

HEAL: 349

HURT WITH A BLADE: 351

I don't care about 352, but:

HURT: 352

HEAL: 353

HEAL: 354

HURT: 355

HURT: 356

HURT: 357

Consume lemon.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:00 pm

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Oh who the fuck made lemons not fruit.

Consume orange.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:01 pm

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In post 233, 123456789 wrote:
In post 230, 2 718281828459 wrote:Question: Is there currently a victory condition?
Propaganda: Anyone else interested in investing? The price is currently 4 lightbulbs, and you can sell to get more if others invest.
Action: Exchange 1 lightbulb for 1 raspberry.
Action: If I have no watermelons, exchange 1 point for 1 watermelon.
Action: Consume one raspberry, one orange, and one watermelon.
A few notes:
1) Yes, there is a victory condition: consume 7 unique fruits.
2) You cannot consume more than one fruit at a time. There is a 24h cooldown between consumptions, so I will take your action as meaning only eating the Raspberry.
3) A reminder that watermelons currently are not classified as fruits.

Isn't there a 2nd victory condition in the rules (being unable to make a legal move)?
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:04 pm

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Proposal 360: Lemons are fruit. Give everybody a lemon.


Proposal 361: Smash half of DiplomatDC's lightbulbs (at the point of this proposal's approval), rounded up. Smashed lightbulbs remains in DiplomatDC's inventory.
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:04 pm

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HURT: 358, 359
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