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R2-D21 should have $160,000 left, not $140,000. Will correct.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Thanks.In post 24, StrangerCoug wrote:I've been informed by Nancy Drew 39 that ND bot's name should not start with a leading period; all reference to the bot have been edited to delete it.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- Sirius9121
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Will edit it in.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I did indeed make that error. Will correct.In post 29, inspiratieloos wrote:I think my bot should have bet the minimum round 2, I think you may have based the bet on Count instead of TCount?
Thanks. (In post 30, Sirius9121 wrote:I thought my bet strategy was 'average of all'?Edited to add:It was actually slightly different, but it clearly should not have been defaulting to flat-betting $5,000.) Forgot to save that part; will correct to reflect this.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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The play of the hands have been edited to reflect the corrections pointed out to me. If there are any further corrections that need to be made, let me know. You have until 24 hours after I post hand 10 (so plenty of time ).STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I'm going to be transparent about a mod decision I made as regards Apple Siri: Sirius9121 had intended the bot to be the average of all other player'sbets, not of all other player'sstacks. To do that from other than the last spot in the turn order requires looking into at least one other bot's programming, which is strictly disallowed (bets are sequential, not simultaneous). I felt like the best way to rectify the bot's programming is to allow it to bet the average of all bot's from the previous hand, while going by the average of the bets of the bots before it in hand 1. While allowing programming changes in the 24-hour rest period after an elimination hand was originally a planned feature, I had removed it in the final version.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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HAND 3/30
First turn comes to ND bot, which once again makes the minimum bet of $5,000. Next, R2-D21 bets $48,000, Apple Siri bets $85,000, Minimalist Bot bets $25,000 again, and Zen Count/Basic bets $20,000.
Bot Hand Total Bet Stack Minimalist Bot 14$25,000$987,500Zen Count/Basic Soft 20$20,000$965,000ND bot 8$5,000$985,000R2-D21 5$48,000$112,000Apple Siri 9$85,000$855,000Dealer 3
ND, not unsurprisingly, hits, with a seven giving it a hard 15, on which it stands. R2-D21 fails to surprise with its hit either and ends up hitting twice, with a two and then an eight also giving it a hard 15 on which it opts to stand. Apple Siri elects to double, but only gets a two for the extra money it pays, eliciting gasps from the audience as the rules of doubling force it to remain on 11. But Siri might still have a chance, as Minimalist Bot opts to stay on hard 14. Zen also stands, happy with its 20.
The dealer flips over its hole card...
Bot Hand Total Bet Stack Minimalist Bot 14$25,000$987,500Zen Count/Basic Soft 20$20,000$965,000ND bot 15$5,000$985,000R2-D21 15$48,000$112,000Apple Siri 11$170,000$770,000Dealer 17
...to reveal a jack and a hard 13, on which it, of course must hit. It draws a 4 to give it 17, then stands.
Minimalist Bot loses $25,000.
Zen Count/Basic wins $20,000.
ND bot loses $5,000.
R2-D21 loses $48,000.
Apple Siri loses $170,000.
Zen takes the lead at$995,000that should be $1,005,000 as the game tightens among the top three, with only $20,000 separating the gold from the bronze at this point. Apple Siri suffers its first major loss, as R2-D21 continues its worrying descent from which it is still trying to recover. The first three seats have become the ones to watch as Hand 4 awaits our bots.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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HAND 4/30
R2-D21 is first to act in this hand and bets $34,000 of its remaining $112,000 as it attempts to recover after three bad beats in a row. Apple Siri follows with a bet of $54,000, Minimalist Bot follows with yet another $25,000, Zen Count/Basic increases its bet to $50,000, and ND bot continues to soldier on with its flat-betting of the minimum, perhaps hoping to win it slow and steady.
Bot Hand Total Bet Stack Minimalist Bot 6$25,000$962,500Zen Count/Basic 19$50,000$955,000ND bot 14$5,000$980,000R2-D21 15$34,000$76,000Apple Siri 16$54,000$716,000Dealer 3
R2-D21 and Apple Siri both opt to stand on their hands, hoping the dealer will finally go bust and pay out to everyone. Minimum Bot knows it likely won't win on just a six, though, so it hits, picking up a seven and then standing on a hard 13. Zen Count/Basic stands on its 19, as does ND bot on its 14.
All that matters now is the dealer...
Bot Hand Total Bet Stack Minimalist Bot 13$25,000$962,500Zen Count/Basic 19$50,000$955,000ND bot 14$5,000$980,000R2-D21 15$34,000$76,000Apple Siri 16$54,000$716,000Dealer 23OVER!
The dealer flips over a 10 in the hole and takes a card from the shoe, which turns up a jack! The dealer goes over, and the crowd cheers as all five bots see their stacks added to.
Minimalist Bot wins $25,000.
Zen Count/Basic wins $50,000.
ND bot wins $5,000.
R2-D21 wins $34,000.
Apple Siri wins $54,000.
R2-D21, while still far behind in last, makes a much-needed recovery to $144,000. Apple Siri sees its hundred-thousands place tick back up by one and now sits on $824,000, ND bot's stack increases to $990,000, Minimalist Bot once again has $1,012,500, and Zen Count/Basic leads with $1,055,000. These bots hope their win streaks continue in the next hand, which will mark the halfway point before the first elimination...STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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How do I improve my odds? I was only betting the minimum because I really had no clue what I was doing.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- inspiratieloos
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If we could have just bet on players, I’d have bet high on Zen, since he was closest to 20, so maybe please explain the bolded to me then?In post 39, inspiratieloos wrote:Bet high when the deck is beneficial to the player, bet low when the deck is beneficial to the dealer, make optimal moves during the game itself.
I'll leave you to figure out how to do that**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- inspiratieloos
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Your bot can remember what happened in previous hands, you can use that to determine whether you're more likely to win or lose before the next hand starts and base your bet on that.
For example my bot calculated it had a slightly under 50% chance of winning the first two hands so it bet minimum, then for the 3rd and 4th hands the odds were slightly over 50% so it bet higher.- Nancy Drew 39
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Well, how do I do that then, program my bot to act like yours?In post 41, inspiratieloos wrote:Your bot can remember what happened in previous hands, you can use that to determine whether you're more likely to win or lose before the next hand starts and base your bet on that.
For example my bot calculated it had a slightly under 50% chance of winning the first two hands so it bet minimum, then for the 3rd and 4th hands the odds were slightly over 50% so it bet higher.**********We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)~the worst*******Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl~CheekyTeekyNancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.~Taly- inspiratieloos
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Feel like giving this a break today; will continue tomorrow.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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HAND 5/30
Apple Siri bets first and wagers $34,000. Minimalist Bot, who up until now had been flat-betting $25,000, this time bets a more aggressive $304,000, Zen Count/Basic also increases its bet from last hand and puts up $80,000, ND bot continues to bet $5,000, and R2-D21 bets $43,000.
Bot Hand Total Bet Stack Minimalist Bot 20$304,000$708,500Zen Count/Basic Soft 21BLACKJACK!$80,000$975,000ND bot Soft 18$5,000$985,000R2-D21 Soft 16$43,000$101,000Apple Siri 12$34,000$790,000Dealer 10
A 10 comes up as the upcard, which means that, although it cannot ask for insurance, it still must check for blackjack. Zen Count/Basic eyes the dealer and the card reader carefully. If the dealer has an ace in the hole, Zen pushes while everyone else loses. Any other downcard for the dealer and Zen is $120,000 richer.
Spoiler: The dealer inserts its hand into the card reader...Last edited by StrangerCoug on Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:10 am, edited 11 times in total.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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rip.... I can confirm that this is a bug in the programming (and how I didn't notice is beyond me...)Last edited by Ircher on Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:52 am, edited 1 time in total.- StrangerCoug
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Corrected Zen's total after the end of the hand; it should now be at $1,175,000, not $1,125,000.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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HAND 6/30
Minimalist Bot returns to the top of the turn order and bets $25,000. Zen Count/Basic drops its bet back down to $50,000, ND bot continues its strategy of flat-betting the minimum, a tilted R2-D21 bets $30,000, and Apple Siri hopes to make a comeback with a bet of $94,000.
Bot Hand Total Bet Stack Minimalist Bot 12$25,000$679,500Zen Count/Basic 11$50,000$1,125,000ND bot 18$5,000$995,000R2-D21 11$30,000$71,000Apple Siri 8$94,000$696,000Dealer 10
Once again, a ten is the dealer's upcard. Once again, none of the bots want the hole card to be an ace. Two bots have an 11, a good hand to double on, but they can't if dealer has a blackjack.
Spoiler: The dealer once again checks its hole card...Last edited by StrangerCoug on Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I accidentally overwrote Hand 5 with hand 6; will reconstruct the former hand later.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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