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can you even get name changes on this hell site

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:10 am
by Parama
I don't even play mafia anymore tbh I just want a name change but creating a new account sounds annoying too

help me out gamers

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:16 am
by vonflare
Creating an alt is pretty easy

I can walk you through it if you want

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 6:21 am
by Parama
I don't want to create an alt
I already have like 5 anyways lol I don't even remember them all

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:24 am
by inte
u shoudl change ur name to Parmesan

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:44 am
by Parama
You should change your name to Banned

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:51 am
by Untrod Tripod
what do you want to change your name to?

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:01 am
by Psyche
boy i hope it's a word with three syllables and the letter p

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 11:13 am
by inte
why did i get bullied

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:22 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 7, inte wrote:why did i get bullied
He's just not that inte you

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 1:57 pm
by Annadog40
In post 0, Parama wrote:I don't even play mafia anymore tbh I just want a name change but creating a new account sounds annoying too

help me out gamers
You cant, it is butts. I tried but no good.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:11 am
by Papa Zito
Moved to Help forum.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:43 am
by Parama
The question stands, anyways
I don't buy that it's nearly as difficult as the mod team would have me believe it is. PhpBB should support it out of the box

The only other concern I can see is if I was in any ongoing games, which I am not

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:43 am
by Annadog40
They are capable of changing names.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:25 am
by Creature
can't wait for Panama

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:29 am
by Parama
Yeah but I spoke with UT and he was against it, for ??? reasons, hasn't really been justified imo and I haven't gotten a response back either

I haven't heard a good reason why the mods/admins don't want to do it, obviously it's technically possible no problem, just

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:32 am
by Creature
I had one other forums that would usually title someone "Formerly: [old name]" for about six months or so.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:21 pm
by Untrod Tripod
In post 14, Parama wrote:Yeah but I spoke with UT and he was against it, for ??? reasons, hasn't really been justified imo and I haven't gotten a response back either

I haven't heard a good reason why the mods/admins don't want to do it, obviously it's technically possible no problem, just
I was trying to think of a way to say "basically I don't care really but zoraster was opposed to it when I talked to him" but since you're gonna come out here and act like I'm the bad guy there you go. I gave you the biggest reason for why the administration doesn't do name changes, but you've chosen to handwave that away because it doesn't suit you.

oh and also I told you to contact zor if you wanted to go further up the org chart, but you seem to have elected to leave that part of the conversation out for some reason. can't imagine why that would be.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 7:25 am
by Parama
Untrod Tripod wrote:That's not something we'd be willing to do. The name change would be an issue with references and quotes. As a matter of policy we generally do not change names for this reason (I can only think of one example of when we have)

If you want to take it up to zoraster you can, but he'll tell you the same thing.
Untrod Tripod wrote:If it was a really tiny change then it's something we could maybe do.

When I say references I mean that names in quotes won't be the new name, which is obviously bad and confusing.
you literally told me taking it up with him would be pointless. why would i follow up with him after that

the only justification you've given is "but reference and quotes"!! which i don't see as strong justification for the reason i've already stated above. the only reason you say it's bad is "lol it's obviously bad"

which... isn't justification, my dude

paint me out to be the bad guy all you want but you responded in my thread acting like you'd be willing to do it then told me "lol nvm we won't do it because <vague reason>"

like i see the point if it impacted ongoing games.

which it doesn't. i haven't been on any games on this site in at least a year.

so any flimsy justification based on that is straight out the window

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:58 am
by Untrod Tripod
I talked to zor about it and I passed on what he told me. If you want to discuss it further with him about it, then go for it. I don't really feel strongly about the issue so I have a hard time coming up with an argument for it, hence why I don't have a lot in the way of justification for you.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:25 am
by Psyche
I think it'd make it harder to read old games if people's usernames changed a lot

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:44 am
by PenguinPower
In post 17, Parama wrote:which i don't see as strong justification for the reason i've already stated above.
You may see it as a weak or flimsy justification, but that's the stance that the site administration has taken with regard to username changes and arguing it here is unlikely to change that. If you feel strongly about it you should contact zoraster directly.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:16 am
by Not_Mafia
It’s not like your username is BillCosbyFan73838484

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:28 am
by zoraster
The policy has been (predating me) that we generally don't allow name changes because it messes with the history of the site. In some respects, this may be exactly the reason you likely want your name changed rather than taking the avenue easily available by creating a new alt. You want to keep your post history and so forth. But if Parama becomes ElrondHubbard, that becomes very confusing to anyone who goes back and sees Parama referenced. For better or worse, this is a mafia site where people dig through old games and posts quite a bit more than your usual forum.

We allow alts to become mains and join any part of the site. So if you want to become ElrondHubbard, create and alt and ask a mod to change your name to the main.

This isn't necessarily a policy I'm super attached to or anything, but I've yet to see a very compelling reason to deviate from it either. We have changed names on an individual basis when there's been a particular reason to that individual (and also sometimes for new players).

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:46 am
by Xtoxm
In post 19, Psyche wrote:I think it'd make it harder to read old games if people's usernames changed a lot
i think this is a pretty strong justification tbh