Anyone up for a game? - Round 3

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:16 pm

Anyone up for a game? I'm open to either side.
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:17 pm

I kinda wanna.

Your avatar makes me wanna play shogi or Chinese chess instead though :(
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:29 am

I do not know Chinese chess, unfortunately. I could try it out sometime.

Would you prefer to start, or shall I?
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:25 am

What is Chinese chess
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:56 am

Chess but the pieces move different.
I didn't bookmark this thread so I ignored it for weeks, sorry Heron :(
I prefer black ftr
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:15 pm

pops, no problem.

1. b4.

b4

I wanted to try playing the Polish Opening. I've been exploring it in lichess, and it has had some success against some...reasonably-skilled players.
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:31 pm

b4 d5
Please don't use computers to study the moves although that probaby goes without saying?
I'm really bad this opening will destroy me.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:43 am

2. Bb2.

b4 d5 Bb2

Nah, I'm not going to use computers to study the moves. I have a computer, but not the program to study the moves. I just use my brain in my spare time.

It really depends on how you respond to the Polish. The idea behind the opening is to gain more spatial advantage of the queenside while allowing for a fianchetto, playing a lot of aggressive pawn moves in the process. The most common refutations of 1. b4 that I have seen are 1. ...e5 (unlocks Black's kingside bishop to threaten the pawn, while simultaneously developing your pieces and also stakes a direct claim for the centre and allows for development away from White) and 1. ...d5 (which is what you have played; no immediate threat that White has to worry about, but also implies that Black is going to get in-your-face).

Besides that, 1. ...b6 also isn't a bad opening for Black, I have found; allows for 2. ...c5 and allows for development on the kingside, since the queenside bishop is unlocked and also impedes White.
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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:08 am

My thinking was that d5 would "force" you to play d4, blocking your own bishop in. I learned chess growing up with my dad and we just always did de45 openings all the time so I can't shake that thinking I guess.

(I'm 3 shots in and will not submit a chess move with this BAC)
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:54 am

I have tried 2. d4 in the past. I suppose can play it.

Another alternative is 2. c4 immediately into a sort-of Queen's Gambit, or 2. a3 to shore up the queenside (I usually don't play this, since the whole idea behind the Polish opening is to grab space on the queenside, and if you're not doing so, it defeats the purpose). 2. Nf3 is also an alternative; you are trading some early development to let Black decide how it wants the game to progress from there.

Crazy openings would include 2. b5. Very risky, depends on your opponent's demeanour and lack of experience with irregular openings.

No problem, pops. It is a correspondence game after all. Take your time.
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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:16 pm

yeah generally moving a night in an unfamiliar opening feels like I don't expect it to be the great answer but it's not too often a terrible move
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:24 pm

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6
I might be missing something here, like maybe allowing Nxb4 can be more easily exploited than I expect, but otherwise it seems like this force a3, which doesn't accomplish many auxillary things so it will feel like I developed my Knight for free.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:02 pm

Or just...

3. b5.

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5

Grabs more space in the meantime, forces Black to spend one move manoeuvring the knight:

  • 3. ...Na5, where she is safe but her movement options are limited.
  • 3. ...Nb4, where I can keep developing my pawns queenside by threatening the knight.
  • 3. ...Nb8, which would waste you a move doing so.


Yes, 3. a3 is also playable, but it would depend on how cautious you want to be.
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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:42 am

nononononononono I am 120% "uh b5" is "that thing I'm missing" that was on the tip of my tongue :P
Skipping a move again for similar reasons. b5 looks like a powerful move here, soberpops will have to figure out a way to salvage things.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:12 pm

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:03 pm

4. a4.

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4

Moves to reinforce the b-pawn.
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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:20 pm

Yeah the left side of the board is just a dumpster fire now I might as well try to make something happen on the other side.
b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:38 pm

5. d3

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3

Solves both your knight running away, develops the queenside more and guards against the bishop.
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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:27 pm

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3 c5
Qd2 is horrifying and a c push seems like the only answer. I'd rather do it sooner instead of put it off. Especially since maybe the feasibility of accepting the en passant capture could change later on. Right now it looks not great.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:38 am

I'm not quite sure that I like 6. bxc6.

Since:


b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3 c5 bxc6 Nxc6 Nf3 e6 (Qb6)

Like...I feel that I would lose all cause of playing the Polish; you regain the mobility of your knight, threaten with your development of pieces on the queenside too with Bb4, gain a potential outpost for the knight on the d4 square, and with Nf6 and then Bg4, it becomes difficult to dislodge that bishop. And all this in return for passivity, as White.

Nope. Not going for it. I would rather go for piece development.

6. g3.

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3 c5 g3
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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:58 am

I was saying the en passant capture looked like a very bad move. Was that a long bit of violent agreement?

Not sure about this move but hope it's not too bad.

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3 c5 g3 Nf6
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:36 am

Sorry. I didn't read your post properly.

Not much else to do now except develop pieces.

7. Nf3.

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3 c5 g3 Nf6 Nf3
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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:16 pm

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3 c5 g3 Nf6 Nf3 c4
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:43 pm

8. Bc3.

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3 c5 g3 Nf6 Nf3 c4 Bc3
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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:52 pm

Have I mentioned you're going to win?

b4 d5 Bb2 Nc6 b5 Na5 a4 Bf5 d3 c5 g3 Nf6 Nf3 c4 Bc3 g5
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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