Micro 794: Miss List II (Game Over)

BuJaber · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:57 am

VOTE: magna

It's undersell and overachieve mate. You've got it backwards.

BuJaber · Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:05 am

What were you trying to show with the last quote?

BuJaber · Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:12 am

Then why NM first?

BuJaber · Post Post #21 (isolation #3) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:28 am

In post 17, Mathdino wrote:why not not mafia first

Because magna is scummier and if what you're reading as an associative works if NM flips scum why wouldn't it work if magna flips scum?

BuJaber · Post Post #100 (isolation #4) » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:00 pm

Aaaaaaagh hate phone posting. Lost my fucking post.
Went something like this:

@magna - you seemed to do a lot of promising right from the get go like "hi guys my meta is like this you will soon see". Seemed kinda LAMIST.

Your question to NM pinged me as odd. You claim to have played with creature too and he is known to lurk as I've recently been told so why did you ask NM onlu? It also felt like you putting the idea of an NM lynch out there without actually calling him scummy.

You misinterpret my questioning of dino. I'm not actually sold on the associative. But I got that he scumreads you and thinks you're bussing so ai questioned why he'd lynch a nullread to test the associative instead of a scumread to test the associative.
This was before he explained the the scumread is closely tied to this bussing idea and that he thinks if NM flips town it soft clears you. Apart from calling you scummier I was keeping my opinion to myself until I fully understood his thought process.

97 is scummy to me.
@NM - Why chick and implosion?

BuJaber · Post Post #104 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:29 am

In post 103, MagnaofIllusion wrote:BuJ - my issues with NotMafia is not lurking but proficiency aka not being a content-less waste of a slot with empty posting. Why did you assume it had to do with lurking?

Ah sorry then my definition of lurking is somewhat wide. Empty posts mean not active participation so it's prettt much the same.

BuJaber · Post Post #145 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:38 pm

Math what happened for you to now TR both NM and magna?
Like I think I agree with magna here actually. You're being super helpful on the surface but very inconsistent with your scumhunting.
But for the record if one of you flips scum I think that clears the other.

If creature or chick are town they should sacrifice I think.

BuJaber · Post Post #148 (isolation #7) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:12 pm

Helpful on the surface with regards to setup.
It's IIoA

BuJaber · Post Post #149 (isolation #8) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:14 pm

Did you townread NM because of his scumlist? Or because you now TR magna?

BuJaber · Post Post #151 (isolation #9) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:25 pm

Well now that we can talk about it...

No offence but you should probably sacrifice at some point. I wouldn't trust you to make the right decision when it's 50-50 win/lose chance. Two games now I've watched you peg scum and then make the wrong choice to the point where I think a legitimate strategy is to wait for you to make up your mind at LYLO and then pick the other choice.

BuJaber · Post Post #154 (isolation #10) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:39 pm

Don't make me feel bad

I'm sorry - I'm just teasing you for my entertainment. I don't really blame you I'm just upset at what felt like betrayal at the time. In my mind we the locktown duo that were gonna secure that win for us.

Anyway in this game I think your TR on NM is sort of weak I didn't like the association in the first place so I disagree also that one of them flipping town clears the other. The read change on magna I can see from your pov though.

I think an NM flip here is the best way to go.
VOTE: NM

BuJaber · Post Post #157 (isolation #11) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:53 pm

I dunno but if you believe he's town then shooting now when there's 80% chance is the best odds he'll get.

BuJaber · Post Post #158 (isolation #12) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:54 pm

Lol more or less the same argument.

But yes why wouldn't they. 20% chance they win outright at worst.

BuJaber · Post Post #161 (isolation #13) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:04 pm

I have no completed games with creature. All I know about him is from others' whisperings. But if he isn't scum he's still likely to be seen on the miss list.

That raises the question do we just lynch creature here?

BuJaber · Post Post #280 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:13 am

NM's flip sorts Dino as far as I'm concerned.

If he doesn't agree to sacrifice I want to lynch there. But sacrifice is best because it also avoids having to rely on him for the shot.

If Dino is town he then has to sacrifice before LYLO, and then we use his reads to shoot scum at LYLO.

Chick/cult is best lynch if NM refuses to sacrifice.

BuJaber · Post Post #281 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:14 am

If NM agrees to sacrifice*

BuJaber · Post Post #283 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:57 am

What's the point of 2 people sacrificing again? Wouldn't that mean 2 people die (if both town)?

BuJaber · Post Post #285 (isolation #17) » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:18 am

I don't have a solid read on NM. I'm flipping a coin on him to get what I think would be a solid read on you.

I don't get it how would that clear you?

BuJaber · Post Post #287 (isolation #18) » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:33 am

It still doesn't make sense to me. If you posted that and I got lynched and saw both of you I would sure as shit not risk shooting either of you because one of you could be town and scum put the other's name to fool me.

BuJaber · Post Post #289 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:44 am

That wouldn't solve anything if you're town lol

Anyway I suggested we go with your suggestion and having NM sacrifice. In that case we can lynch elsewhere D1.

BuJaber · Post Post #301 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:55 pm

@mod - what happens if 2 players sacrifice?

BuJaber · Post Post #306 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:10 am

In post 302, Mathdino wrote:If they're both town, one randomly dies. If only one is town, mafia has the option of stopping their kill.

I'll sacrifice.

BuJaber · Post Post #328 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:31 pm

Imp wagon all the way

VOTE: imp

BuJaber · Post Post #330 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:44 pm

It all comes down to the final shot or we lynch all scum since it's still town majority. I will be proven town sooner or later.

BuJaber · Post Post #332 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:14 pm

Well I'm not sure that both you and NM are town. Panther might be scum but he seems clueless so it's definitely one of you.

BuJaber · Post Post #334 (isolation #25) » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:47 pm

I forgot cult was in the game but yeah that's about where I am.
But I admit because of the associatives and PoE NM is more likely to be scum. He'd be the one buddying you in this case.

BuJaber · Post Post #363 (isolation #26) » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:50 pm

I sacrifice

BuJaber · Post Post #445 (isolation #27) » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:26 am

Hi
Sorry for absence. Sudden events.
VOTE: buj

BuJaber · Post Post #471 (isolation #28) » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:55 am

Game is all about this last shot.

Glad it worked. Panther/math at lylo would not have been my choice.

This isn't really mafia is it lol

BuJaber · Post Post #473 (isolation #29) » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:59 am

Like I think it's even higher than 90% chance for it to go to 3p lylo. (Or scum win earlier)

I don't think it needs balancing seems okay. Don't think either alignment has much of an advantage. The communicate with the dead is good but not as game breaking as some might feel.