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Like you never said why, and I am very interested in why you're scumreading the person who is LITERALLY fucking dieing irl.
So if you're going to say "ITS BECAUSE HE'S LURKY OR WHATEVER."
That's why
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They're not really engaging...In post 407, Dunnstral wrote:I think Plotinus is scum here and they're not really engaging with the game and I don't see why he can't choose scum.
VOTE: Pine
VOTE: Plotinus
HE IS LITERALLY FUCKING DIEING AND FEELING GOD FUCKING AWFUL DUNNSTRAL
I AM LITERALLY PLAYING THE GAME BECAUSE OF THIS
AND THE BEST YOU'VE COME UP WITH IS "THEY'RE NOT REALLY ENGAGING"
Like, have you even tried to read any of his posts and try to analyze them or read into anything I told Plot or like any of the content we posted.
In fact, has the whole thread even bothed to READ any of Plot's posts?
Becuase I am very convinced that no one has made an attempt to read any of Plot's posting.
Like actually fucking READ HIS POSTS.
Not even Pine who is hard TRing us.
^I'll hammer Pine btw if it comes to it^| here.GTKAS-
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You're actually right btw. You don't even do it to boost your scumgame.In post 481, Dunnstral wrote:
This doesn't happenIn post 475, Lycanfire wrote:Unfortunately Dunnstral is a scumfuck regardless of alignment these days and refuses to town up in order to help his scumgame
Because you don't have a scumgame.
You don't even have a towngame.
You're actually worse then fucking Not_Mafia because when he actually tries to play games, and yes, he can try in games I've seen him fucking do it, he can have some goodposting.
You're?
I have 1 word to discribe your play here: Useless.
You should retire.| here.GTKAS-
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Ausuka and CES are town, everyone knows that.
Lycan seems really towny to me btw but they are going to hate my reads.
NM Ploti think is town mostly because he thinks he's doing more. I personally think he's lynchbait, but I'll probably look at it more with Ploti and do maps or someshit.
Cheeky can be a wolf, mostly because 492 is a huge red flag. Cheeky doesn't like randing wolf, and she probably didn't bother to follow along with Red's game because it was a wolfgame, and because it was a wolfgame, she was disinterested. She probably left Redflavor alone to just wolf is what I'm basically saying. Like if Redflavor was town, Cheeky would probably have followed along with the game and tried to help Redflavor. Cheeky wasn't reading the game so...
Pine is probably just a wolf who knows I'm town his only defense of my slot is "PLOT WOULD NEVER TAKE A WOLF PM BECAUSE ALI TOOK A TOWN ONE."
Dunnstral is useless, hasn't engaged the game, his reads at an earlier point in time were fucking terrible because he basically had everyone as lynchable, his read on my slot is fucking disgusting, and his unwillingness to compromise when there is literally less then 2 days left in deadline is really fucking scummy.
VOTE: Dunnstral
VOTE: Cheeky
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Its no worries, he didn't really say anything about it.In post 519, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:I'm sorry to hear about Plot's health issues and I very much hope he gets better but I don't think anyone here had any idea something like that was going on. I don't think yelling at us is going to help.
I'm just yelling at Dunnstral because he's like, not helpful?
Like he wanted engagement from my slot.
I am giving him engagement.
And we're going to talk.
If Dunn wants to fucking FoS me without saying anything as to why I'm scummy other then lack of engagement and not read my content, then I will fucking dance on his fucking grave because he is REALLY REALLY REALLY fucking scummy.| here.GTKAS-
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Like me and Plot have worked together to solve and put a lot of content in the thread.
No one has bothered to really read into that they just said we're wolves for not engaging.
That's reasoning that's really easy for a wolf to stick and hold onto because it allows them to have to avoid any real evaluation and it just looks good as a reason.| here.GTKAS-
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Oh yeah Plot told me a bit ago that he didn't like this.In post 462, Not_Mafia wrote:That's what the flip is for
I personally don't care for it.
I do want to know however why do you care about wanting a flip so badly that you posted that?
Most of mafiascum population doesn't even look into associations to try to fun wolves because surprise, they're fucking terrible at the game. Ikr big fucking shocker.
I've don't think I've ever seen you work with associations publicly? Or say anything along the lines of "This person is scum because they look like this person's partner."
Do you do this work backstage, like what's motivating this other then bloodlust and deadline (which wasn't a realistic problem at the time)?
I know I'm not going to get much out of this question but I figured I'd ask anyways in the event I DO get something out of it.| here.GTKAS-
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I’m asking for a sob story...
Dude...
All I literally gave me was
“He’s not engaging”
And I addressed that concern
And you say this.
You’re a fucking wolf.
Can you like, repost it. Or quote it. Or do anything?In post 535, Dunnstral wrote:Go back and respond to what was addressed to Plotinus
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I am engaging in the game!In post 536, Dunnstral wrote:
That makes it L-1In post 534, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ausuka seems to be talking down the possibility of a Plot lynch but with Dunn, her and myself that makes it L-2 with the potential for a lynch there.
Alisae subbed in and instead of engaging with the game started hard attacking me on a personal level to try to disengage their wagon
Just in my own way.
I am trying to engage with you when I asked you “hey, can you tell me why you’re actually scumreading my slot”
BUT NOOOOOOOO YOU GAVE ME NOTHING.| here.GTKAS-
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BUT IS ANGLESHOOTING SCUMMY?In post 537, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Yeah that pinged me too. Seemed a little forced. I also felt the argument for why my slot is scum was pretty angleshooty.In post 536, Dunnstral wrote:
That makes it L-1In post 534, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ausuka seems to be talking down the possibility of a Plot lynch but with Dunn, her and myself that makes it L-2 with the potential for a lynch there.
Alisae subbed in and instead of engaging with the game started hard attacking me on a personal level to try to disengage their wagon
VOTE: Alisae
NO, ITS NOT CHEEKY
IT ISN’T.| here.GTKAS-
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Okay, tbhIn post 539, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
I don't think there's anything wolfy about pointing out that your slot didn't really engage with the central things happening in the game from something like page 10 to page 20. Plot barely touched the singerlynch and has mostly just let the Katya-Pine duelling wagons happen without much of an effort to influence things beyond an annoying fake hammer. It certainly doesn't reflect badly on Dunn.In post 522, Alisae wrote:Like me and Plot have worked together to solve and put a lot of content in the thread.
No one has bothered to really read into that they just said we're wolves for not engaging.
That's reasoning that's really easy for a wolf to stick and hold onto because it allows them to have to avoid any real evaluation and it just looks good as a reason.
I don’t know why the singer lynch happened. I’m actually really clueless as to that.
Plot fakehammered because Pine asked him too. That’s literally it. I didn’t think it would work or help anything, but he was asked to and he was like “sure, I don’t see wynaut”
But we WERE defending Pine, so letting the wagons sit is actually false, but maybe I’m not surprised since you hardly noticed Plot’s stances.
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Ywall are actually, really wrong btw.In post 541, CheekyTeeky wrote:If Plot and Ali are aware of their meta, with one supposedly preferring scum more than the other, would it not make sense to go against these expectations when they're clearly both competent scum players?
CES what's your read on that slot?
Plot is willing to take a wolf PM.
In fact, the reason why we even decide to duo for this was because I wanted to learn how to effort from Plot (which I am learning a lot from btw like learning how to do charts and maps and how to analyze the maps is really cool!)
So the goal was to prioritize giving me the towngame if we happened to draw a scum pm.
It just so happens that were both town so we took the games we wanted to play (Plot took this game because he wanted to have fun with voting mechanics and I took the normal)
Like we’re both competent at this game and at wolf.| here.GTKAS-
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Yeah he still thinks Pine and mastina are working together in their PT.In post 559, Lycanfire wrote:In post 516, Alisae wrote:HE IS LITERALLY FUCKING DIEING AND FEELING GOD FUCKING AWFUL DUNNSTRAL
I AM LITERALLY PLAYING THE GAME BECAUSE OF THIS
AND THE BEST YOU'VE COME UP WITH IS "THEY'RE NOT REALLY ENGAGING"
Noticing RF/NM/Pine interactions as fishy is cool and all, but Plotinus actively worked against your reads and thought Pine was scumhuntingIn post 516, Alisae wrote:Like, have you even tried to read any of his posts and try to analyze them or read into anything I told Plot or like any of the content we posted.Am I missing a great post somewhere?
If... Cheeky hates being a wolf... Why would she replace into a scumslot? If it was obligation, why didn't she RTFT? Maybe sheIn post 520, Alisae wrote:Cheeky can be a wolf, mostly because 492 is a huge red flag. Cheeky doesn't like randing wolf, and she probably didn't bother to follow along with Red's game because it was a wolfgame, and because it was a wolfgame, she was disinterested. She probably left Redflavor alone to just wolf is what I'm basically saying. Like if Redflavor was town, Cheeky would probably have followed along with the game and tried to help Redflavor. Cheeky wasn't reading the game so...both hates scum and read the thread, and just feels like lying about it... Or maybe she doesn't hate scum as much as you think.
GoodisaeIn post 520, Alisae wrote:Pine is probably just a wolf who knows I'm town his only defense of my slot is "PLOT WOULD NEVER TAKE A WOLF PM BECAUSE ALI TOOK A TOWN ONE."
A Pine vote would go here but that would be a hammer.
I’ve lately been disagreeing with him.
Either way Lycan, I think her voting me for “angleshooting” is terrible.| here.GTKAS-
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if everyone wants the lynch scum wants it.In post 563, Lycanfire wrote:Everybody wanting your head on a stick is a good sign? It's more fishy when everyone agrees but nobody does the deed.
If everyone wants you dead, it's because you're the best lynch.| here.GTKAS-
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CHEEKY STARTED ITIn post 570, Not_Mafia wrote:
Please don't use MU terms, I'm allergic to themIn post 567, Alisae wrote:
BUT IS ANGLESHOOTING SCUMMY?In post 537, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Yeah that pinged me too. Seemed a little forced. I also felt the argument for why my slot is scum was pretty angleshooty.In post 536, Dunnstral wrote:
That makes it L-1In post 534, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ausuka seems to be talking down the possibility of a Plot lynch but with Dunn, her and myself that makes it L-2 with the potential for a lynch there.
Alisae subbed in and instead of engaging with the game started hard attacking me on a personal level to try to disengage their wagon
VOTE: Alisae
NO, ITS NOT CHEEKY
IT ISN’T.| here.GTKAS-
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Ye ok I don’t remember your play on DRv3 uPick besides having decently really good reads imo.In post 572, Not_Mafia wrote:And I think one of Pine and Katyusha are likely scum, simple pimple
And I do do associatives, I did in the Dangan Ronpa game between Kiyo and LLD| here.GTKAS-
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WHAT CRITICISMIn post 582, Lycanfire wrote:I don't like how you came in just to shade Dunnstral. I wasn't aware of Plotinus' situation. If he said this in the speakeasy, shocker, some people don't want to be a part of it or be up to date with everybodies' lives.
Suggesting we ought to read minds is disingenuous. I want Dunnstral to explain his read, but his criticism of Plotinus was good.
What Criticism has he actually posted beyond “He isn’t engaging in the thread” which is terrible from my PoV.
Tell me
Its nothing
It doesn’t exist.
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But yeah from a town perspective no his read doesn’t make sense. Plot has a lot of walls you can read an try to analyze and get a read from for yourself and NO ONE IS TRYING TO READ THIS WALLS OR TALK ABOUT THEM
Like if you thought Plot’s ACTUAL CONTENT is scummy then fine, I can respect that.
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Your first point is meta which I can’t address. Terrible meta at that since, well, its wrong.In post 589, Dunnstral wrote:My initial read was based on Plotinus contributions in this game not matching up to what I've seen them do as town in other games, also they were letting pine spew out "plotinus wouldn't pick a scum role pm because alisae was town" and now alisae is saying that the both of them would have given Plotinus the scum pm. Alisae has given me different reasons to scumread them since they've entered
Your 2nd point isn’t actually scum indicative. Plot could have let Pine spew it out because hey, they were reading us correctly, so it doesn’t make any sense for us to tell them not to read us correctly?
DIFFERENT REASONS. OH BOY I WONDER WHAT THESE ARE DUNNSTRAL| here.GTKAS-
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Case in point.In post 590, Lycanfire wrote:
How is Plotinus scum if Pine is town?In post 589, Dunnstral wrote:My initial read was based on Plotinus contributions in this game not matching up to what I've seen them do as town in other games, also they were letting pine spew out "plotinus wouldn't pick a scum role pm because alisae was town" and now alisae is saying that the both of them would have given Plotinus the scum pm. Alisae has given me different reasons to scumread them since they've entered
How many times have you asked this and gotten no response?| here.GTKAS-
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I Count 3 let me bring up all the times this was asked.
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But this was the original statement in question.In post 499, Dunnstral wrote:I'm definitely not voting Lycan, you're not going to convince me on that because I believe I have a good read on Katyusha, If you're town and Lycan is town then Plotinus is probably scum, no?
Here Dunnstral is implying that it could be linked.
Then in 593 “I MEAN, THEY’RE NOT REALLY LINKED IN MY EYES”
Okay, this could be poor word choice from Dunn.
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MAYBE a wolf in Pine but I feel like he’s flipping town since everyone wants it.In post 602, Lycanfire wrote:
Do you simultaneously have low expectations and high expectations of Dunnstral?In post 601, Alisae wrote:In that case that isn’t as bad.
Here's a better question: do you think there's 0 scum in Pine|Myself|NM?
You, eeeh no you’re probably flipping town.
NM I have no clue but I’m leaning town? I don’t really know tbh :/| here.GTKAS-
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Dunnstral is scum!In post 611, Lycanfire wrote:Well thereareother solutions they simply just don't make as much sense to me.
1. Alisae is scum and making a shit ton of noise as some kind of gambit
I mean this scumteam is fucked so why not?
2. NM is already on-wagon bussing scum
Well again, this team is fucked so that's fine.
3. Ausuka and CES are scum
Dunnstral is scum!
ITS DUNNSTRAL!
DUNNSTRAL!
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I’m not?In post 619, Not_Mafia wrote:Then why consider the scenario of you being scum with someone other than Pine?
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VOTE: DUNNSTRALIn post 634, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Alisae
I'm leading the lynches today and I'm not considering anything else until this is gone. We can bang our heads against the wall for 2 weeks until someone is forced to vote this, or we can lynch this now.
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YWALL VOTED FUCKING PINE
SAID I WAS SCUM WITH PINE
AND HE FLIPPED TOWN
AND I’M STILL GETTING VOTES
ACTUALLY TALK TO ME PLEASE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE NO ONE HAS CARED TO READ LIKE, ANY OF WHAT MY SLOT FUCKING POSTED.
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Like, why is this fun.In post 645, Alisae wrote:Like, why should I bother playing the game if scum are just going to beat me up over and over again and no one wants to see that because they don’t want to talk to me.
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Are you going to talk to me?In post 647, Lycanfire wrote:Okay so Alisae didn't self and we can bother playing the game now.
Cause like
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Dunnstral doesn’t want to talk to me.
Surprise its because he’s a wolf.
Cheeky doesn’t want to talk to me.
And surprise shes a wolf.
NM, I don’t expect you to talk to me, but if you COULD talk to me for once that would be great because like
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What is there to rationalize?In post 652, Lycanfire wrote:
How are you rationalizing the votes on you?In post 648, Alisae wrote:
Are you going to talk to me?In post 647, Lycanfire wrote:Okay so Alisae didn't self and we can bother playing the game now.
Cause like
No one wants to do that.
Dunnstral’s concerns I addressed on Plot and he’s said NOTHING to me on why I’m scummy even though I’ve been demanding it.
Cheeky is probably just voting me because she’s a wolf, I’m not seeing the concerns she’s saying about my slot other then “ANGLESHOOTING IS SCUMMY” and that’s not fucking scummy and if she’s trying to discredit that as scummy she’s probably scum herself because its a good angle imo.| here.GTKAS-
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you’re confbiasing yourself over pre-flip associations when analyzing the play is what is most important.
Like, I seriously am asking you to consider completely re-evaluating atm because if you keep lynching the way you are, it’s going to result in a town loss imo.| here.GTKAS-
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Because this is an easy game for them.
They just need two more mislynches, and they’re likely to get them if they just keep NM alive. All they have to do is beat me up, and then go into LyLo and lynch some lynchbait like NM| here.GTKAS-
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Ya know
Asking someone to self if you think they’re scum or vote their buddyisn’t an unreasonable dreamto dream imo.
Like I see it come from town more then it comes from scum, and its really towny from Lycan, so he’s probably town.| here.GTKAS-
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