Micro 810: lovers mafia BTMPWTMAATSGATAPSIAWT [game over]

[xyzzy]

game 2, votecount 2.03

1 player voting for NicoRobin (Ausuka)
1 player voting for Ausuka (NicoRobin)
1 player voting for Mathdino (Pine)
1 player voting for Pine (Mathdino)

2 players not voting (RedFlavor)

with 5 votes, it takes 3 to lynch.

as of this votecount, you have (expired on 2018-06-26 12:30:00).

mod notes: ponyo loves ham

I know Im fat but thats rude

fixed!

[Pine]

Mathdino + {Ausuka, Nico}

Not sure which of the latter, voting the one actively spouting bullshit.

[Mathdino]

Come at me scumteam

I think it's almost certainly NicoRobin and Pine trying to frame me as the partner

Intent to vote Nico once redflavor is confirmed town

What happened to this btw? Why are you not voting nico?

I wanted to see whether I could get a lynch on pine at all
Since pine is literally confscum to me, there's no danger in having my vote here

Failing that I'm just lynching Nico

Again idk why pine would try to divert attention away from lynching town nico when everyone was willing to lynch there
Pine/nico scumteam

[Pine]

Because I'm not sure Nico is scum. Stop putting words in my mouth.

[Mathdino]

What
Do you not understand that you're confscum to me
I'm not talking about whether town you would do something, I'm trying to determine who your partner is by what scum you would do

[Pine]

*checks role PM*

Nnnnnnope. Still Town.

[RedFlavor]

Ok pines last post scream LAMIST and I dont like his wantiness to lynch math but cant be saying anything about ausuka - nico. He suddenly turned into "Im not sure about Nico" so I think it could be pine with nico.

[Pine]

I don’t do LAMIST. I was mocking Math.

[RedFlavor]

Im gonna be voting unless
Nico, why I should not vote you?

[Pine]

Ugh fine.

I can look into Ausuka vs Nico.

[Mathdino]

Im gonna be voting unless
Nico, why I should not vote you?

So no chance of going for Pine?

I'm mainly just afraid of a Pine/Ausuka pairing here. Haven't quite ruled that out.

[Pine]

Im gonna be voting unless
Nico, why I should not vote you?

So no chance of going for Pine?

I'm mainly just afraid of a Pine/Ausuka pairing here. Haven't quite ruled that out.

This practically shouts Mathdino/Nico, ftr.

[Pine]

Actually, in reviewing Nico, her only substantive contributions to Game 2 have been her naked votes. That’s minimalist scum.

I’ll vote now, for two reasons. One, I want to assure RF that I’m not hedging my bets here, I’m willing to take the risk on him. Two, if I’m wrong about Nico, it doesn’t matter whether RF hammers or Math, and I’d rather get it over with if I’m wrong.

Between games, when no one is either scum or Town, we need to have a discussion of tactics. The bullshit Math is pushing is bad Townplay, and he’s done it now as both Town and scum.

VOTE: Nico

[Mathdino]

The bullshit Math is pushing is bad Townplay, and he’s done it now as both Town and scum.

when have you ever seen me use this kind of logic as scum

i've won every town lylo you've seen me in lol

[Pine]

We can talk about it between games.

Lack of hammer confirms Math/Nico.

THAT, by the way, is how you confirm something. L-1, not L-2.

[Mathdino]

i mean at this point either pine is super gambiting or is scum with ausuka as i suspected might be true

i was also scumreading nico most

but the point i'm making is that:
- if pine were town, he wouldn't have voted me outside the crossvote. he'd have just voted nico earlier.
- if pine were town, he wouldn't have been THIS fucking resistant to me trying to clear redflavor
- if pine were town, he wouldn't be voting me for literally doing the same thing i did last game. he's using the same fucking argument on me as when he was scum. he either doesn't get my argument or thinks other people won't, so he calls me scum for it.

pine knows i don't lie about strategy or mechanics as scum. we've talked about this on discord. and WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT IN BETWEEN GAMES.

redflavor:

you've played against scum-me. you have to see that my play thus far has been legitimately pro-town in a way that pine's hasn't.

pine has taken a 50/50 risk between math/red and nico/ausuka TWICE.

if you think pine is town, that means you think that pine not only had

perfect

reads this game (when he is, as admitted, a significantly better scum player than he is town), but he also thought highly enough of himself to take that risk twice when he had a 25% chance of succeeding.

he took those "risks" because he knew he wouldn't lose. because he's scum.

[Mathdino]

red i feel like the way i phrased the above is confusing

so if you don't quite get it, i'd like you to tell me so i can re-explain it

if you do understand my point, and still feel like voting nico is the right call, i wouldn't blame you. i was going to vote nico had pine not voted me.
but i want you to actually understand the point before deciding.

my best argument for why you should resolve pine/math instead of nico/ausuka is this:
- nico consistently plays anti-town as town, and flakes out of a hilarious number of games (i'm not sure why her /in was accepted for this game). she doesn't really seem to give a shit.
- ausuka, despite shitting on pine's posts, has shown no effort to actually resolve pine/math.

ausuka

, if the team is actually pine/nico gambiting, you should put your money where your mouth is and vote pine. there's no way i'm scum this game.

[Mathdino]

eh ausuka has no motivation to do that smfh

the only lynch candidates today are pine and nico so ausuka has no reason to give a shit which are lynched

[xyzzy]

game 2, votecount 2.04

2 players voting for NicoRobin (Ausuka, Pine)
1 player voting for Ausuka (NicoRobin)
1 player voting for Pine (Mathdino)

1 player not voting (RedFlavor)

with 5 votes, it takes 3 to lynch.

as of this votecount, you have (expired on 2018-06-26 12:30:00).

mod notes: ponyo loves setup design

[NicoRobin]

Im gonna be voting unless
Nico, why I should not vote you?

Because I am town.

[NicoRobin]

And about flaking out, of course I'd flake out of games I don't like. If you wanna know, I prefer having a power role over being Vanilla. That's why I rarely join Opens or Normals.

[Mathdino]

That's selfish tbh

You've flaked out of the majority of your games and then complained to anyone who would listen about me when I wouldn't let you join an almost all vanilla micro

[Pine]

pine knows i don't lie about strategy or mechanics as scum. we've talked about this on discord. and WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT IN BETWEEN GAMES.

What the fuck? No we didn't.

And I don't think you're lying about mechanics, I think you're honestly wrong about strategy. Again, you've pushed this bullshit L-2 clearing thing twice now, and at least the first time you were Town. It just plain doesn't work the way you're talking about!

[Mathdino]

Yet you voted me for "spewing bullshit"

You effectively decided you'd bet the game on a lylo policy lynch for logic that has beat your scumgame twice now

OK dude

[Pine]

And at this point, Math is just trying to lobby RF instead of actually engaging me.

Also, another nonsense thing - he's sarcastically talking about how I had "suspiciously perfect reads" this game, but ignoring the fact that I was wrongly on NM. He's flailing really hard to distract from a scummy partner.

PE: I'm not voting you on policy. Don't put words in my mouth AGAIN. I voted you because spewing bullshit is scummy.