Micro 812 - The Arena II - Game Over

Flubbernugget · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:46 pm

In post 6, Something_Smart wrote:I don't know what I expected, really.

Why not?

Flubbernugget · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:01 am

I don't think so

Flubbernugget · Post Post #14 (isolation #2) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:07 am

Your thoughts on what the gladiator picks meant would interest me.

I really only thought about what it would mean for me to be picked as a gladiator (pardon the vanity), which I think would have pointed to not mafia, zzzx, or another player that may have seen an easy mislynch land on me before.

NM has a very...distinct playstyle. He doesn't get picked at random.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:14 am

^^ exactly what I'm getting at

Flubbernugget · Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:01 am

I don't think that lines up with "I thought a lot about what the first gladiator pick would tell us"

Flubbernugget · Post Post #21 (isolation #5) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:26 am

It reveals information only because there is potential for the tactics to become effective.

And if you thought about this a lot, you would surely be able to elaborate a little bit on those tactics, yeah?

Flubbernugget · Post Post #23 (isolation #6) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:14 pm

The ones involved in selecting a gladiator

Flubbernugget · Post Post #29 (isolation #7) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:12 pm

In post 12, Something_Smart wrote: Flubber, I spent a decent amount of time thinking about what the first gladiator pick might reveal about the scumteam... but this is the one pick that reveals nothing.

In post 26, Something_Smart wrote: It's moot though, because I wasn't thinking about gladiator selections in this playerlist, only in general.

You're lying.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #35 (isolation #8) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:31 pm

You really have

nothing

to say about the interactions between me and SS?

Flubbernugget · Post Post #37 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:54 pm

How so?

I'll assume you think I'm wrong on 29 too. Can you elaborate on why?

Flubbernugget · Post Post #39 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:23 pm

Maybe "lying" isn't accurate, but "contradicting" isn't strong enough, because I would expect pre-meditated thoughts to be significantly more consonant.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #42 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:40 am

Why would you play a game with unique mechanics and then huddle hack into a comfort zone

Flubbernugget · Post Post #43 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:41 am

NM should gladiator something_smart

Flubbernugget · Post Post #48 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:47 am

In post 45, Scioness Sajj wrote:okay so I have thought about this a little last night and I think we should let NM pick on his own.

no majority or pseudo voting. we should just focus on poking one another.

Are you saying we shouldn't try to persuade nm at all? That lowers the stake in discussion by a lot

Flubbernugget · Post Post #53 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:53 am

In post 51, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 39, Flubbernugget wrote:Maybe "lying" isn't accurate, but "contradicting" isn't strong enough, because I would expect pre-meditated thoughts to be significantly more consonant.
What do you find incongruous about those posts?

You can't have a single pick that makes your thoughts on the subject irrelevant while also saying you weren't thinking about individual picks

Flubbernugget · Post Post #54 (isolation #15) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:55 am

I dont think it's worth further discussing without more voices in the thread.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #78 (isolation #16) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:37 pm

In post 56, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 53, Flubbernugget wrote:You can't have a single pick that makes your thoughts on the subject irrelevant while also saying you weren't thinking about individual picks
...I certainly can.

If I theorize that the gladiator pick relates to how scum view the person they picked, and everyone views Not_Mafia in the same way, then that pick makes my thoughts irrelevant.

This is fair

Flubbernugget · Post Post #79 (isolation #17) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:38 pm

In post 69, BlackStar wrote:
In post 67, Something_Smart wrote:Sorry for the sarcasm btw, that was a bit uncalled for.

I'd say that what happened between me and Flubber counts as something. Do you have an opinion? Do you think Flubber is justified in scumreading me?
It's ok lol. I thought his reason for scumreading you was really flimsy so I wasn't interested in the exchange

Given your contributions to the game at that point, this is a frustrating thing to see and an anti town way to start the game at best.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #80 (isolation #18) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:39 pm

In post 75, BlackStar wrote:
In post 74, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 73, BlackStar wrote:I think it was a desperate argument that was mostly created to try and get everyone talking, and I also think that he believes what he said
I don't think it's possible to be both of these things at the same time
Sure it is. He was suspicious of what SS was saying and thought that if he acted kind of forceful when pressing him it might get other people to weigh in

Yep. This was exactly my intent.

Flubbernugget · Post Post #105 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:24 pm

Flubbernugget · Post Post #161 (isolation #20) » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:16 am

Back later today

Flubbernugget · Post Post #162 (isolation #21) » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:19 am

Holy shit this speeeeed wagon on scioness is shady as hell

Flubbernugget · Post Post #194 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:00 am

In post 192, Not_Mafia wrote:Clearly I’m scum’s target

Bizzare thing to say given that I have a long track record of being lynchbait

Flubbernugget · Post Post #202 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:15 pm

I don't see how that doesn't make sense, but it isn't part of my conclusion. I'm a lot busier between work and school than expected and couldn't get much farther than "the SS choice was bad and getting him lynched as either alignment is a positive for town"

Flubbernugget · Post Post #208 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:55 am

In post 206, BlackStar wrote:
In post 205, ZZZX wrote:I don't see why scum NM wouldnt be picked for gladiator again yet i see why they wouldnt pick him again...

Change my mind.
Don't those two statements directly contradict each other?

I think he's saying nm as scum gets picked as gladiator again and nm as town doesn't

Flubbernugget · Post Post #214 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:27 pm

VOTE: not mafia

Flubbernugget · Post Post #235 (isolation #26) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:35 am

You must have read my mind dunnstral. Zzzx was on the town lynch and off the scum lynch

Flubbernugget · Post Post #281 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:27 pm

Awe fuck I thought it was ceej

Flubbernugget · Post Post #298 (isolation #28) » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:48 pm

In post 286, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 43, Flubbernugget wrote:NM should gladiator something_smart
This is why scum thought he would gladiate SS, or at least scum SS probably doesn’t choose Flubbernugget here

I mean I’m just gonna be honest it’s always me/ceej/mylo. I’m always gladiating ceej after we lynch mylo here,

Are you saying this points to ss as scum? They're still both equally town to me

Flubbernugget · Post Post #307 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:35 am

Scum controls the initial Gladiate so anything town premeditates between two players isn't happening

Flubbernugget · Post Post #335 (isolation #30) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:27 pm

Yes, my activity has been abysmal and I apologize. Life has been more draining in recent time than I expected.

I haven't been sorting much, but am still indifferent to the lynch here provided we can get ceej tomorrow.

I will vote mylo tomorrow since they are,closer to lynch. Please say something in 12 ish hrs if I'm missing something super stupid here

Flubbernugget · Post Post #365 (isolation #31) » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:28 am

In hindsight there's a nasty situation in which expressing your scum reads basically can mean scum make sure they're never gladiated

Flubbernugget · Post Post #393 (isolation #32) » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:54 am

Not fully caught up

It's really weird that you gladiated me and are pressuring ss as scum

Flubbernugget · Post Post #408 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:01 am

I just finished reading up, but I don't remember who irrelephant is scum reading, and they way he's starting to consider a small handful of players scum is anti town at best

Flubbernugget · Post Post #409 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:03 am

I get the whole generating content thing but there's better ways to do it than paranoia

Flubbernugget · Post Post #410 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:06 am

The best I have for a scum read atm is ss over the early game but that's really meh

Flubbernugget · Post Post #414 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:18 am

I'm not seeing dunn and nm as scum theater

Flubbernugget · Post Post #417 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:07 am

Scum has a lot of controll over not getting their partner lynched so that makes him a lot more likely to approach endgame

Flubbernugget · Post Post #424 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:30 am

In post 418, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 417, Flubbernugget wrote:Scum has a lot of controll over not getting their partner lynched
Clearly not...

Well I guess I didn't bus nm then, huh?