Micro 827: The Team Odds - Game Over

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hardclaim informed townie

my inform is that rc and skygazer are >rand town

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VOTE: eragon

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oh also i noticed and realized that this setup is sucks lmaof

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This is, I think, the first time I actually wanted to roll scum in a game this year

i kinda thought i would b but i still had the

oh fuckin phew

when i was townie that i always have

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VOTE: dunnie :/

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hi radiantcowbells let me know when you're around i wanna do a reaction test ok? thanks x

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you smell lol

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sorry dunnie :/

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RC not willing to give me townpoints for things makes sense from him bc he's told me a little bit in the past that he can't read me

im willing to locktown nsg unless RC flips scum at some point

also i think ive heard that nsg is more active as town? possibly?

i haven't played with that many people here but im hoping i can figure out eragon early and schadd later on but ive only seen schadd play on a roleplaying alt

cardi i think was generally true to how i play with the exception that i couldnt lurk and fall back on my meta so i was explaining reads and talking more

i usually don't like to exert myself on games but this game might draw it out of me idk. if rc is town im not really worried abt being lynched. maybe ditto nsg

by the way, i'm deciding right now that if i can do alright in this game then i'm officially not washed up anymore

ouh shit where did my wincon go all i can see is northsidegal's wincon

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im thinking skygazer is town............

im thinking northsidegal is town lol......

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something i wanna communicate to nsg in case it matters: i have felt, like, transparently scum thoughts coming from carca when she was town and stuff she's said this game has given me the same feeling

there is no reason to trust me on this at all and if you're washed up i'm washed way the fuck down

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i would like

seriously consider leading NSG to my partner then underplaying in a way she'd catch if i was scum here

:^I

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does anyone else see a Dunnlilly scumteam here?

felt too obvious to me but yes

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so hold down your horses and schad please stop being scummy so I can Unvote you

im looking back at this bc i didnt read it but it was quoted in the eragon post

this is explicitly not sufficient for me to want to vote carca at all for example

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i'm seeing dunnformer and lillyformer > dunnlilly

dunn has 5posted pretty convincingly to his scumgame to me idk

if we lynch those three do we just win and go back to never playing mafia

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like performer is my real scumread

i'm support carca because I think NSG is a Skilled Player (TM)

this is good to know thank u

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he posted 5 times

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im scumreading him

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pretty convincingly

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oh right wh4t

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i was thinking the poe felt really tight

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she would have put herself as 100% and not 0%

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hm yeah she said she was on her phone

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one other lovely person

spewed me town

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sky am i town

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you haven't faked an inno yet so no

:T

like have u formed a read yet

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@schadd: you feel kinda town and relaxed except for maybe the comment on ur lurking meta?

whats wrong with lurking? :^]

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oh yeag ok

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hi nsg :)!!!!

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ive been busy all of today and will continue today and will prob b busy most of tmrw

no problem with eventually lynching sky if rc doesnt change that but wanna keep doing the day

just wanted to pop in n say hi to northsidegal : )

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i already claimed

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ok wait i can do a little bit of content

wh4t (?) said something like "schadd has done reaction testing but hasnt taken stances" but i contend that i have done like no actual reaction tests and have taken several stances

performer said something like "

• were willing to townread me so they are probably town and i was like haha what? prob town idk
  
  thats all i remmber

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wh4t (?) said something like "schadd has done reaction testing but hasnt taken stances" but i contend that i have done like no actual reaction tests and have taken several stances

You have two stances.

1. Dunnstral 5 posted so is scum
2. You like saying hi to NSG

Did I miss anything out?

You seem flip floppy on sky, what's your read there?

said nsg was town

sorry i think some of my thoughts were more implicit than i thought but while talking to rc i am working under an assumption that he is town and that i'm like,, following his gamesolving if that make sense. i think i said i wanted to flip dunn carca and performer but idk if i'm as sold on those...

sky seemed town from some like predicty game thoughts (idr and not looking right now. seemed like she was thinking thru meta well) but not convincingly and rc sring her makes me ok with throwing that away

i think performer is kinda town, carca isn't convincingly either align

i have 2 do mathe houmewourk

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still interested in flipping dunnie personally...

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like im thinking if its dunn and skygazer then rc and i high five and then retire from mafia forever knowing we did a good job as a team

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ok i kind of see sky scum due to some considerations i'm missing from her that i would b expecting but like i have specifically identified that in the past as a standard i only hold ppl to when i already want to scumread them so i'm leaving that be

i have 2 do maetthe hoouhmwveourcke

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i am pretty sure nsg is town, i'm pretty sure wh4t is town

last micro i played with rc he was scum and i had gotten some faint uncomfortable vibes by this point in the game and i havent now so shrug. playing around him being town until later bc i generally don't want to deal with it etc.

eragon reads like me as either align when i'm forcing content.

eragon can u

: talk to me about how you've fit into this game? any answer / interpretation of the question is the correct one. i would request the answer be outside of a spoiler= tag

i feel guilty bc i've had a lot of games where i like forced ppl to read my own spoiler= walls and they came around and townread me but i don't feel like evaluating one of his walls beyond sightreading it

performer is a kinda tr that i havent thought too much about and won't unless he is an immediate consideration for some reason (i can look at the game i modded where he was d1'd) (looks like he might be an immediate consideration, idk)

dunnstral looks really scum to me, he has been highposting a lot in games i have seen from him recently (mostly just large themes i guess but one assumes he joined this game on purpose) and in general tends to be really pushy and strongly internally consistent as town in such a way that id'ing him as town is usually easy. he started off weak here and did even less stuff after becoming a common scumread and has done solely a couple reads

he has equity with skygazer, performer and eragon among people i'm not confidently tring. 1 with carcalily in spite of how that team makes sense to me. eragon i wouldnt really expect to be bussing him in that team with this gamestate (there are other lynches that would just be easy and fine for that team upon cursory thought)

carcalily ultimately null and i expect to sort her with regards to other slots (if i'm bothering to sort her myself which is a maybe)

skygazer is a scum consideration. sort of not interested in generally elaborating due to reasons. thought her rc vote then townread felt bizarre but i'm tempering that in light of me wanting/expecting her to be scum during that

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537 no

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I genuinely townread Eragon's play as someone who closeread all his walls

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buy buy buy

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meh, im really not sure, i started off slow with a lot of shit being forced out by everyone early and me racing to catchup but never really being fully, caught-up, if you know what i mean?
so im feeling kinda detached here just cause i realyl havent had the time to go through and do much more than surface-level catchup

from what you've seen does it seem like we are close to a gamesolve? are u excited for the flip we end up doing 2day?

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ok actually time for someone else to do the work

UNVOTE:

@NSG/Wh4t who say that Eragon is scum by meta: can you explain the difference and provide examples for why that's the case?
@schadd can you show me the meta that you've claimed exists on dunn so I can review it

recent town
half year old scum, reads kinda similar, also similar dearth of posts
recent large theme where he does the obvtown dunn thing but i think u might be familiar with that and also doesn't really necessarily apply

don't remember him in a micro more recently than like a year+ ago

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actually wow september is like most of a year after november huh

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on like a basic level the towngame has like nuance and general comments and stuff whereas the scum is like "here is a reason for a thing" "here is a reason for a thing" "person is scummy" and the latter is more close 2 this game

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truthfully can't put it higher than like a 50% read or anything he might just like not care abt this game

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uggh i've been grokked :)......

Kokichi isn't "baiting scum" he's just his normal self

The whole post assumes mafia are primates basically

The reasoning she gave for voting me i "writing posts with zero content" and then fabricating a reason that's scummy (it's not by the way, and this is in the first 2 pages anyway)

this just feels way different and townier than any of the few things he's said this game

Spoiler: nongame @rc

we were doing gen2 random and there were two times where i blindly exploded turn 1 which was really fun

i think it killed something the first time and it almost killed her dewgong or something the second time

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im doing my northsidegal impression :)

i guess it depends on whether im right

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:)

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dunn l-1

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All the wannabe meta types are severely misguided or scum

hi you're throwing if you're town

there are obvious differences between this and your towngame and if you are going to neither acknowledge that nor make effort to change it there is no way for ppl to know

look at 606 and 609 with that in mind please

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VOTE: performer

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if dunn/lily/performer is town/town/town then sndsdnytndd theres nothing i could have done

i think lily is kinda towny in isolation fwiw but not enough to act on that

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rc do u feel as though the last page is anti-aligned for dunn/former (optional q)

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i would.... kind of appreciate it if the fact that im town were persuaded onto carcalily in some way (bribery?)

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i am 95% confident that i either get endgamed, shot to throw off nka or i survive in this game i just think it would be helpful toward sorting her

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there is 9%ish where rc is scum and 5% within that where he wouldn't realize how rude it is to lynch me

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652 yes kinda but mostly because Dunn calling me scum felt town

ok thank you

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The problem is if I hard case a scumteam everyone will be like yeah that's obviously it even if it's not because I'm so good at casing

me with myself (bad at reeving more than good at casing)

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537 no

(yes)

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why am i sring you more than dunnie

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do you think either of us are scum perhaps

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yeah his last few pages have just like oozed tmi ://

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rc is there a perf towngame u can link to me that would make this sit better

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thank you schadd for finally being productive

i've been imo but whatever

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:T

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All the wannabe meta types are severely misguided or scum

hi you're throwing if you're town

there are obvious differences between this and your towngame and if you are going to neither acknowledge that nor make effort to change it there is no way for ppl to know

look at 606 and 609 with that in mind please

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you are capable of not lurking as town :^)

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and that isn't exactly the substance of why i think you're scum

pedit yeah

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and that isn't exactly the substance of why i think you're scum

pedit yeah

But it is

what are you even doing dude

did you look at 603 609? it's not that you're lurking or low-posting necessarily but that i don't really get any sense that you're thinking critically about the game which you usually do when you're town

you have the option of continuing to not do anything about the scumreads on you or like start trying or rep out

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oh shit was that your car

uhhh srry

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I also believe our site administration is better than ever too.

: ^ )

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VOTE: eragon

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idk sounds p scummy to me

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i am only scumreading eragon bc of the pikachu gif and for nothing else

thank you to northside gal for bringing it to my attention i didnt see it bc it was in a spoiler tag

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i think if you believe rc and i are town you should trust wh4t is town

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out of like the million people we've pretty much wagon almost all the way i havent trd any of the reactions lmboa

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VOTE: schadd

can anyone meta Schadd for me otherwise I’m going to keep voteparking

i think i have a higher postcount now than the highest i've had as scum in a micro including times i've endgamed

maybe not more but close

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if i were scum i think the only way my scumplay would be as good as it would have been here is if rc was my partner :^)

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and there might be some statistical thing to be done about realtime posting that would lock me as town as well

like i am pretty sure i don't respond to people immediately very often as scum

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she isn't doing that and she said as much...

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idk if i mentioned that realtime makes me uncomfortable as scum but it does

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for the record (and again i've more or less said this abt every wagon) but your frustration and like ignoring of the fact that she was in fact not scumreading the pikachu gif just really reads openwolfy to me

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with me teaming with rc there's at least a momentary communication to me as he feeds to me exactly what to say in the PT

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there's 3 hard lynchbait nad 2 scum

carca is lynchbait but i think she is shooting out more vibes than the other ppl

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for the record (and again i've more or less said this abt every wagon) but your frustration and like ignoring of the fact that she was in fact not scumreading the pikachu gif just really reads openwolfy to me

You say she’s not scumreading the pikachu gif????

you quoted and responded to the post where she said she wasn't

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how many towngames have u played with him nsg

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for the record (and again i've more or less said this abt every wagon) but your frustration and like ignoring of the fact that she was in fact not scumreading the pikachu gif just really reads openwolfy to me

somebody tell my why this is inaccurate

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yeah it's like the conflicting "that is a position that doesn't come from town mindset in any obvious way" and "that is too obviously wrong to be something someone makes up"

it could just be overplaying a frustration to transparently in order to continue realtiming

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You know what?

Fuck this.

I thought this would be a fun playerlist.

Looks like I was dead wrong.

Peace out

if you're in fact scum and replacing out for being cased that's really boring

kind of as town too

we should all take a night off tbh

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fucking stay you dipshit

we're not lynching you today

i am now officially defending you (tm)

hhh

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also ftr i dont find the meta thing all that convincing : /

but also nsg's meta things r right pretty oftn

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wh4t isn't, like, necessarily town ftr

lmofao

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there's 3 hard lynchbait nad 2 scum

carca is lynchbait but i think she is shooting out more vibes than the other ppl

Is it because I’m voting you

it's not

not

because of that

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wh4t isn't, like, necessarily town ftr

lmofao

this is a very serious (tm) post

even if we win im gonna be upset if it's not in the skyformagonstral poe

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is she on any other teams

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also ftr i dont find the meta thing all that convincing : /

but also nsg's meta things r right pretty oftn

meh, i could be wrong. i could also just be less articulate than i would like to be given the circumstances.

you may sleep now

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i think it is true that her car caught on fire and that she has been out of commission today at least

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i think it is true that her car caught on fire and that she has been out of commission today at least

Well that and surprise surprise I'm hungover lol

i was talking about....................skygazer?

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did your car also catch fire?

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nsg did u see my meta case on dunn's tral (if you are asleep please continue sleeping)

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i was talking abt performer there if thats unclear

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yeah i think this is a list he cares about

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this is literally so counter-productive but think about how happy everyone would be if we just lynched dunnstral and he flipped red

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im just fucking wasted rn(In a non-literal sense) and pretty much have no WIM and barely any time.

If we decide to flip someone within the next day or two, hopefully I'll be able to collect my thoughts together and chill, but other than that I might be forced to replace out just for the enjoyment of other players as well as giving someone who is able to play a slot

Maybe town? Don't think scum would replace out to improve the gamestate.

yeah i don't immediately remember scum having done that and i remember town doing it a bunch of times

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if dunn is a wolf can i prodge for the rest of the game

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Yes

thank you

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dang i overshot with the link

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i successfully lurked this game for 24 hours

also related i saw this and it reminded me of this game:

Spoiler:

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no protest of sky lynch from me

UNVOTE:

i am not qhing dunnstral

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lily is there a point that you started towreading rc

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hush

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wE goNnA lOoSE tHis gAme

can we please Lynch rc tomorrow

1v1 us please

I will not vote any other slots while this is alive

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I've pointed out carca's unnatural mindset and performer's bad whatever, meanwhile all you've done is bandwagon with the popular opinion

who is this directed at

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VOTE: cargo lily

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oh shit 5 hours

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:(

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let's give carca what she asked for so she doesn't ask for it again please.

: |

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i would kind of like to lynch dunestral

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UNVOTE: wh4t

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wanna keep talking

wh4t voters tell me why you're doing that.

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wh4y

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ugghg

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is there a reason not to hear from the general public? hold an nsg eulogy?

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i trust my read on nsg more than i trust my read on wh4t

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i trust rc's read of wh4t more than i trust dunn's read of performer

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:T

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with any luck

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i'm curious

if i promised you that I wasn't scum here would you believe me

i dont think it is impossible u would do that as scum no

it would perhaps contextually affect my read of u

i have already taken "if im scum im nking you" as a promise and breaking that would be vry rude

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im willing to believe perf town

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we both have 1 point of likelihood with wh4t as team

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the word chit is like a token in a board game

we are both very unlikely town assuming wh4t flips scum which is an assumption that rc is making

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do we get to lynch dunn after

pedit :[

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i dont follow but yeah

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no hes right

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but wouldn't my unvote of wh4t though i wasn't even voting there, make me......the partner, if wh4t flips red?

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and that your scumread other than wh4t is the one you need to push to mathematically endgame

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oh no thats eragon nvm

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woof