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Post #13 (isolation #4) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:36 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 12, OkaPoka wrote:do u believe that you can transmit more information through a some basic emoticons or text
Depends on who the receiver of that information is. If it's a tone-reader sort of player then maybe? I'm not really sure where you're going with this line of questionning. Another pro to using emoticons rather than text is that I don't end up sounding like Donald Trump. Sad!
You shade NM, entering a game that is based on multiple votes, without placing a vote. One could say that you were confused about there being multiple votes but in that case I think you would've looked up the setup and placed a few yourself. I find it's easy for scum to point out surface level scummy actions, particularly at day start where most townies are joking around, you try to look like you mean business but your voteless, finger pointing contridicts any real intent.
In post 31, OkaPoka wrote:why arent u conforming to rvs like the rest of us, saudude
because I dont feel like it
Meh. What's the point of signing up if you're not even going to vote/play. You don't have to RVS but at least give some content or follow up that weak shade you threw on NM.
In post 59, Saudade wrote:Meh nothing fun to read overnight i guess we'll take it slow
Rather than complain about how slow this game is there are a myriad of other options. You're active lurking plain as day. There is content to comment on.
I'm pushing you pretty hard and instead of giving an opinion you just say you don't like me. I think a town player would've pushed back in some way, or at the very least voted me.
In post 112, OkaPoka wrote:@kmd talk to me about saudade, you still sticking with your guns on him?
@not_mafia hi
Huh? I don't have a read on Saudade. I retracted my scum read. His next few posts made me realize my reason for scumreading him didn't apply. He's basically a true null. I've been meaning to look for some meta. Will probably see what he's got on Friday.
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Will read aeros stuff tomorrow
I look forward to seeing your meta dig. I meta'd him and this is very different to his opening in games where he's town.
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Post #128 (isolation #19) » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:15 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 115, Aeronaut wrote:This is a super ironic statement from somebody very clearly pointing out a surface level scummy action, one that really is NAI in the first place. Saudade says two words, and from that you got this whole overreaction as a legitimate towny? That's some BS. Nobody legitimately looks at "The fok" and has this long shakespearean soliloquy to say about it.
Yeah because it's the same....not. way to reduce my entire push down to scumreading him for one surface level post. You're intentionally misrepping me here.
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Post #129 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:19 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 117, Aeronaut wrote:Especially not something real enough to warrant that over-the-top response.
Your welcome for Adding real content to the game. YOUR response is over the top and clearly misguided if you can't see my alignment through my intent. The key trigger point for saudade is his response to my pushing him. I think if he's town that heavily implicates you for defending him.
In post 112, OkaPoka wrote:@kmd talk to me about saudade, you still sticking with your guns on him?
@not_mafia hi
Huh? I don't have a read on Saudade. I retracted my scum read. His next few posts made me realize my reason for scumreading him didn't apply. He's basically a true null. I've been meaning to look for some meta. Will probably see what he's got on Friday.
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Will read aeros stuff tomorrow
I look forward to seeing your meta dig. I meta'd him and this is very different to his opening in games where he's town.
I bet you 2$ that you cant provide links to such games =]
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Post #139 (isolation #22) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:59 am
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 137, Aeronaut wrote:That last sentence really is making my vote seem a lot more like it's in the right place. He's already gearing up for a townflip.
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Post #140 (isolation #23) » Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:01 am
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 136, Aeronaut wrote:Prove me wrong, then. Instead of chirping that "NO YOU'RE WRONG IT'S NOT THE SAME", tell me how it isn't. The thing is, your "push" isn't a push. It's you trying to make a story around what looks to me like just a confused townie.
No. It's your job to determine my alignment if you're town. I reaction tested him before giving my thoughts read the thread. Also I will not communicate further with you, you make me angry.
In post 60, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm close to saying Saudade is scum, doubt = zero. Very close.
??? according to what, you reading my day one entrances in other games?
This is a trademark of mine. NM is familiar with it. When I say x is scum, doubt = zero it means I'm 100% confident you're scum. It doesn't happen every game but it has a 100% success rate D1 and a 100% fail rate thereafter for no obvious reason. Saying I was close was based on my gut pings which I expanded on in my minicase of you.
I feel like you holding back from giving reads or making pushes is coming from a frozen wolf because you're at L-1 and don't want to give any info if you flip. What's your take on Aero and kmd?
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Post #222 (isolation #28) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:26 am
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 220, Kmd4390 wrote:Cheeky I had a few questions for you in that post.
I'd answer them if I considered them important. I'd rather you sort me from my actions. I'm not a fan of explaining myself when anything I say can be construed as scummy - like how it has been so far. I'm pretty sure you've already decided I'm scum based on your terrible readslist so answering questions seems kinda pointless in helping you sort me.
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Post #233 (isolation #32) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:31 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 167, Saudade wrote:I've been waiting for a line like this for a while now
"I also don't see the bad in lynching Saudede, regardless. Now, this is scummy of me to say, but if Saudede is Town, he's contributed absolutely nothing but other than lynchbait (as I have, which would make the case the same for me). The difference being, that if Saudede flips as Town, I think we can begin a push for Cheeky. And if he flips Mafia, we can begin a push on Aero."
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Post #234 (isolation #33) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:37 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 155, notasexualobject wrote:Now, this is scummy of me to say, but if Saudede is Town, he's contributed absolutely nothing but other than lynchbait (as I have, which would make the case the same for me). The difference being, that if Saudede flips as Town, I think we can begin a push for Cheeky. And if he flips Mafia, we can begin a push on Aero.
With two lynches a day, I think this is the safest bet. Of course, I don't expect this plan to be set in stone and we can view the reactions post lynch, but I'm willing to lynch either.
Nvm found it. Will comment on this soon - still skimming isos.
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Post #236 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:48 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
Draynth/NM/Saudade are difficult to sort right now. I did attempt to sort Saudade which was rudely interrupted. I didn't like his reaction to my push on him and he has yet to provide any stances on anyone but I'm willing to put him aside and lump him in with the other difficult to sort players for now.
Top is town:
{Notasexualobject, Kat, Performer}
{KMD, OkaPoka}
{Aeronaut}
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Post #237 (isolation #36) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:10 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
So NASO's post 155 is interesting in that initially it looks like he's betting on both sides of the fence but his following clarification post says he means.
1. Saudade is antitown so no loss to town anyway.
2. If Saudade is town we can PUSH cheeky.
3. He doesn't mind lynching either Saudade or Aero.
#1 seems very confident as it could easily be misinterpreted as opportunistic, so I'd think you'd need a little bit of conf bias to boldy say hey could be town but I'm lynching him anyway.
#2 Shows that he's willing to hold me accountable by pushing me the next phase which makes sense from a town POV and is completely different from saying if x flips green we lynch the pusher.
#3 shows he's taken a strong stance on the biggest personas of tge game so far. I feel like scum would probably sit back and wait for some kind of consensus on which way it would go between saudade/aero/cheeky before giving any input.
In post 236, CheekyTeeky wrote:Draynth/NM/Saudade are difficult to sort right now. I did attempt to sort Saudade which was rudely interrupted. I didn't like his reaction to my push on him and he has yet to provide any stances on anyone but I'm willing to put him aside and lump him in with the other difficult to sort players for now.
Top is town:
{Notasexualobject, Kat, Performer}
{KMD, OkaPoka}
{Aeronaut}
i thought you were super confident in your sorting of saudade?
aeronaut criticized you but that doesn't stop you from continuing your line of questioning
Aeronaut has attempted to make it a me vs saudade game. Rather than play into the trap I am taking a step back and reevaluating those around my initial push. In case you haven't noticed Saudade is not responding to questionning. I still like him for scum hence my vote is still there but I'm putting him in the "will become more obvious with time" pile.
I still don't understand what it is you're trying to get at here? Like can you take a stance on my behavior? What parts of my behavior are alignment indicative and how?
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Post #262 (isolation #41) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:59 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 261, OkaPoka wrote:I'm wondering if you think that those two statements are contradictory. they seem contradictory to me at least
Right well yes they are contradictory. My playstyle is very different from the norm I don't expect people to understand what I'm doing until I need them to. Let me ask you, do you think contridictions are more likely to come from town or scum and why?
Are you going to do anything to resolve this contradiction? Which statement takes precedence, latter or former? How is anyone going to be able to make an informed decision about you if you seem to take double stance on a very important subject?
No. Latter obviously. Read my intent not the surface level words.
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Post #276 (isolation #43) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:28 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 265, OkaPoka wrote:Is it really wise to be cryptic with your playstyle and let other people try and interpret you? Why not be completely open with your thought process?
It works for me. I'm predominantly a reaction tester/tone reader type player and it's easier for me to catch scum on the back foot rather than saying blah blah this is exactly how I feel and letting scum manipulate me. If people are smart they will realise that there's no advantage to playing this way as scum because scum want to be townread whereas as town I do not care about being townread, I care about lynching scum. Funnily enough I become obv town later anyway. Ask Kat and NM
In post 268, Saudade wrote:You've been trying to sort her, like the entire 11 pages lmao
If there's one thing I've been growing paranoid about, it's if Oka turns out to be scum somehow this game.
I don't think any of us are prepared for that....
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Post #290 (isolation #46) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:39 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 283, OkaPoka wrote:yeah but you are still stifling discussion if not all the cards are laid on the table.
sure you don't care about how you appear
but everyone else wants to see your thought process to sort your slot and if you refuse to do that then you become a lylo liability. i mean how are we suppose to know if you aren't just making things up as you go along
No I'm not. I'm just taking discussion away from me. You all can still play the game without me. If I become a lylo liability then that's fine, we can figure that out later. Like again we're discussing things that aren't relevant to sorting our alignments this game. You could stop breathing down my neck and see how I go considering we're only a few days in?
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Post #305 (isolation #48) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:56 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 302, OkaPoka wrote:which then begs the question cheeky, why don't you want me breathing down your neck?
also what benefit does not talking to aeronaut serve to town? are you so sure of your read on him that no further sorting is needed?
Well you can't force it and it's annoying. I realise that people become easier to sort with more content and Aero can produce more content with or without me. I think by removing myself from the situation it will become obvious if he was tunneling me as a crutch or not. Anyway I don't see what you're doing as sorting, you're merely asking questions around playstyle.
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Post #308 (isolation #49) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:59 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 167, Saudade wrote:I've been waiting for a line like this for a while now
"I also don't see the bad in lynching Saudede, regardless. Now, this is scummy of me to say, but if Saudede is Town, he's contributed absolutely nothing but other than lynchbait (as I have, which would make the case the same for me). The difference being, that if Saudede flips as Town, I think we can begin a push for Cheeky. And if he flips Mafia, we can begin a push on Aero."
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Post #311 (isolation #50) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:01 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 307, OkaPoka wrote:yeah cuz ur self proclaimed playstyle is kinda detrimental to town
either ur doing this on purpose to sabotage us or you are doing this on purpose because you dont give a fuck or you are doing this because you dont know that it hurts town
i have to draw my own conclusions but you can see my thought process right?
That's your opinion my bro. I have played enough to know I'll be just fine and you'll sort me just fine by EOD. Promise
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Post #319 (isolation #54) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:12 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
I just can't see scum saying "oh sorry I didn't realise that was scummy" like what scum player is going to bring attention to scummy shit and apologise hoping it's going to work?
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Post #322 (isolation #55) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:23 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
It's possible - but given that NASO has experience elsewhere it feels like he's genuinely unaware that what he's doing here could be considered scummy. Imho I think when scum are called out they either turn it around or try to look like it doesn't bother them. There's no benefit to scum apologising because it does look scummy on MS. I'll rehash his ISO but this is probably my key point.
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Post #323 (isolation #56) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:25 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 21, notasexualobject wrote:I feel like I've seen him do this before in another thread. I don't like it personally, but hey, more power to him :>
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Post #324 (isolation #57) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:26 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 42, notasexualobject wrote:VOTE: Performer for having an animated profile picture that I stared at for like 3 minutes
In post 44, notasexualobject wrote:I actually didn't notice you had an animated profile picture. I've seen you like everywhere too, so that's even more concerning. VOTE: Not_Mafia
Anyways, I can't tell whether Saudade is scum or just being obnoxious about how boring this game is, either way, I'd be down to find out.
-snip-
I'm going to be dropping this VOTE: Saudade because I don't feel comfortable with him having fewer votes then me.
I mean either this dude is very confidently open wolfing or completely clueless to how scummy his behaviour is. I'd say the latter because I feel a player newish to MS wouldn't have this kind of confidence as a wolf.
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Post #329 (isolation #59) » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:34 pm
Postby CheekyTeeky »
In post 326, notasexualobject wrote:Could you explain to me what that means to you? I'm confused but that sounds good for my case. Do you mean I've acted so scummy so openly that there's no way scum could be that stupid? (unintentionally, so that shouldn't even be an argument, but hey)
Kind of? To me it means you're unaware of how scummy you're being because you're not scum who are very aware of how they look because they have to blend in with town.
