Micro 834 : Vanilla 8-Ball : Game Over

[Irrelephant11]

I mean scum can be 8-ball
I also don’t know If scum come into this game day 8-balling the *most obvious* 8ball since town is probably aware of that possibility
I’d vote Penguin here
Nsg is still fairly underwhelming but so is everyone so that isn’t enough to nail anyone down as “underwhelming because scumhunting is fake, therefore scum”

If scum win this I feel it will mainly be from town’s lack of effort tbh
Who are you willing to vote here Gamma?

[Irrelephant11]

@suka I was mostly townreading Saudade off tone

[Irrelephant11]

Saudade hasn’t been so towny I would never ever vote them but like I said I don’t think both off-wagon players are scum and I think Penguin slot is worse than saudade right now

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean scum can be 8-ball
I also don’t know If scum come into this game day 8-balling the *most obvious* 8ball since town is probably aware of that possibility
I’d vote Penguin here
Nsg is still fairly underwhelming but so is everyone so that isn’t enough to nail anyone down as “underwhelming because scumhunting is fake, therefore scum”

If scum win this I feel it will mainly be from town’s lack of effort tbh
Who are you willing to vote here Gamma?

I mean I'm voting Jingle rn
I also felt a desire to lynch Sausage at one point, and those associations mentioned make me feel like he could be running a similar bamboozle to the DDU game I replaced into recently

[Suka]

Also EOD flashwagons hit scum, so why is Suka not an option for scum here? They’re PoE doesn’t sound like they’re actually scumhunting (duh it’s unrealistic to say it’s both of the players who were off wagon), they’re looking for mislynches

How can you say I'm not scumhunting? I gave very clear reads & reasons. The read on Saudade isn't based on "PoE," it's based on his play. Yes, I townread NSG & you, and I don't think Jingle is Saudade's partner. That leaves Gamma & Penguin as Saudade's partner. You might think it's unrealistic that both scum were off wagon, but you'd be wrong. There's plenty of mislynches in the history of mafia that happened solely through town votes. You can't say I'm "looking for mislynches" unless you know Saudade, Gamma, & Penguin are town? You're townreading all those players?

[Irrelephant11]

I’m townreading Gamma slightly, and I still don’t think Saudade/Penguin is worth pursuing really
An all-town mislynch is less likely in 8p than usual mafia circumstances, and “it’s happened before” doesn’t negate its incredibly low probability
I do actually sorta townread your entrance to this game though
Ughhhh if I win I feel like it will be on accident, I don’t feel like I have strong reads

[Suka]

Why are you townreading Gamma?

[the worst]

vote count 2.10

cue sports fun fact:

to follow!

Irrelephant11

(1) : Jingle

PenguinPower

(0) :

northsidegal

(0) :

Jingle

(2) : Gamma Emerald, Saudade

Suka

(1) : Irrelephant11

Gamma Emerald

(0) :

Saudade

(1) : Suka

not voting:

PenguinPower, northsidegal

with 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

day two will end in (expired on 2018-12-17 17:00:00), or earlier automatically if a majority lynch is achieved.

mod notes:

- quack

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

penguin if you're town i would appreciate you showing it as soon as possible

I'm town. It's hard for me to do anything asap on the weekends. Sorry.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: suka

NSG and elephant are strong town reads now. I could lynch anyone else.

[Irrelephant11]

Spoiler: gamma quotes I townread

so I could discuss my extensive scum strategies with my partner in crime =]

Ok so this was the only post connecting the unskipped night to talking with buddies
I feel like this joke could be made even with daychat and as such isn’t clearing
I would have cleared someone if they used serious spec based on that idea to accuse someone or make theories
Obv not doing that anymore as the thought process is out there

Busy as hell today, probably no real contribution til tomorrow.

Would like GE to elaborate on 144 and 145 if possible.

144: given Relly created he setup idea I’d believe any questions to be genuine. So they’re not playing dumb, making playing dumb not his plan. That was poorly written out earlier as I wrote it on the fly without fully sequencing the logic behind it.
145: Mafia has daychat, but some might not realize. I wanted to see if anyone tried to connect the long night to no daychat so I could give them townpoints. The only person to do it was Saudade, in a joke post which I feel scum could still make.

VOTE: pintu
Yeah.

Hm I think a good strategy to start each day is actually a soft read reset at the very least, since the mafia are likely to try to play into pre-existing prejudices

Nsg where you at

just frustrated about my mistake

Why so tilted?

[Suka]

Hmm, maybe I townread Irrelephant too quick.

[Irrelephant11]

I mean my townread of Gamma is weak AF, if that’s your only point
I’d vote gamma

I’ll vote {Suka, gamma, maybe Saudade}

[Jingle]

I'll vote Suka before deadline if I'm the only other option, but I really think lynching the CJ slot today is dumb.

[PenguinPower]

I'll vote Suka before deadline if I'm the only other option, but I really think lynching the CJ slot today is dumb.

Voting elephant is dumb as well so....

[Suka]

I’ll vote {Suka, gamma, maybe Saudade}

Why won't you vote Penguin?

[Suka]

I can VOTE: Frozen Angel

Explain why you were willing to vote Penguin's slot prior to my replacement but after I started towning my slot up (your words) you suddenly want to lynch me and keep Penguin alive.

[PenguinPower]

I started towning my slot up (your words)

Where did elephant say this?

[Jingle]

Why? PP?

[Suka]

I’m townreading Gamma slightly, and I still don’t think Saudade/Penguin is worth pursuing really
An all-town mislynch is less likely in 8p than usual mafia circumstances, and “it’s happened before” doesn’t negate its incredibly low probability
I do actually sorta townread your entrance to this game though
Ughhhh if I win I feel like it will be on accident, I don’t feel like I have strong reads

This is Irrelephant townreading my entrance to the game. Yet he votes me?

[Irrelephant11]

I’ve never been thrilled about lynching Penguin’s slot, and I was more willing to compromise there when I thought his activity was AI. I’ve said all day I think it’s dumb to vote off wagon, and the only reason I’d vote Saudade is if it’s the only vote that could go through (he has a vote already)
I think you’ve *felt* marginally more towny than CJ and your play looks more like scumhunting but all your conclusions seem wrong to me and it feels agenda-y
More importantly I townread nsg and Jingle more than you or Gamma and I’ve said all gameday I want to lynch on wagon

[PenguinPower]

I’m townreading Gamma slightly, and I still don’t think Saudade/Penguin is worth pursuing really
An all-town mislynch is less likely in 8p than usual mafia circumstances, and “it’s happened before” doesn’t negate its incredibly low probability
I do actually sorta townread your entrance to this game though
Ughhhh if I win I feel like it will be on accident, I don’t feel like I have strong reads

This is Irrelephant townreading my entrance to the game. Yet he votes me?

? Sort of town read your entrance and then voted you based on wagon dynamics and his Saudade/me stance.

You're putting a lot of emphasis on the first and ignoring the last.

p-edit

He can explain better i guess....

[Suka]

I think you’ve *felt* marginally more towny than CJ and your play looks more like scumhunting but all your conclusions seem wrong to me and it feels agenda-y

What's my agenda with my reads? How are my conclusions wrong? Put yourself in my shoes. Assume I'm town. From that perspective, what should my conclusions be?

[Suka]

I’ve never been thrilled about lynching Penguin’s slot, and I was more willing to compromise there when I thought his activity was AI. I’ve said all day I think it’s dumb to vote off wagon, and the only reason I’d vote Saudade is if it’s the only vote that could go through (he has a vote already)

Why is it dumb to vote off wagon? I think it's likely that there's one scum off wagon. Do you think that's unlikely for some reason?

[Irrelephant11]

Some conclusions you refuse to come to that i think you should
A) Saudade/penguin is never a team
B) the only reason to vote off wagon is if you’re afraid of 8-ball - most players seem to think that you’d be the on-wagon 8-ball, though, so you least of all should be afraid of it