micro 840: mystery box of silver (this is over)

[Nibbui]

I'll tell you the truth:

I should have a lot more done but I thought I would have no internet access and possibly not be able to play the game so I've been lazying around a LOT because I was afraid of getting replaced after working more seriously here.

Maybe I should stop messing around and do more work. I'll take a bath, listen to some music and actually sort these slots.

I feel this is the right moment to do so although I wish soda just got replaced already if he is going to prod dodge only.

[Nibbui]

I'm feeling like we might need lynch mastina if she doesn't town up because of PoE.

[Nibbui]

but I think it's already in my iso and we're getting gooderer at sorting each other ^^

do you refer to me or to skitter here?

[Nibbui]

what music?

I like japanese music (surprise surprise) but I'm not picky with it so I usually just listen to some random playlists on youtube, I'm not sure about the name of most of what I hear to be honest

I don't like idol songs though, they are too corny for me

[Nibbui]

we are AWFUL at reading each other

yeah you really might be town here

maybe you're scum that thought I was scum reading you for the "wrong reasons" but I feel better about you!town.

[Nibbui]

wait "corny" is a wrong word to use to describe it.

I think they are too *cute* for me so I don't like them at all

anyway let's hope I can actually sort my nullreads

that's cool as, you should send me links to stuff you like sometime if you want to

I might someday I guess

[Nibbui]

I want Pink Ball to be town here because I like their style.

[Nibbui]

sheep who is scum along with NSG and don't say infinitesoda

[Nibbui]

why skitter and pink sheep?

explain your read on them please

[Nibbui]

why pink

I think it's because I'm adorable

that's pretty reasonable yes

I'll call you Reasonable Ball from now on

[Nibbui]

sheep but isn't mastina posting kinda towny as well?

[Nibbui]

I was hiding all this time but I've been finding mastina posts pretty towny, don't you kinda feel it as well sheep?

[Nibbui]

that's weird imo

anyway, do you feel that infinite is scummy as well? I kinda feel it

[Nibbui]

is NSG actually scum?



how confident you are on your scum lean in NSG sheep?

[Nibbui]

f
i think she's way more capable than what shes posted so far and tw's meta of her being very prominent in thread as villa while hating wolfing is very agreeable/accurate

how you actually know tw's meta on her?

[Nibbui]

hmmm

I don't want to tunnel here but this is so + scum equity...

[Nibbui]

I just researched for a bit and it seems NSG hasn't replaced out of a game it's been quite a bit of time really, and

add that to her entrance post and maybe she really was unmotivated scum and did that case on me because I was a good diplomatic scum read and maybe that reasoning of tone/word-choice was the unique thing she could come up with as surprising to me as it seems to be.

VOTE: NSG

[Nibbui]

@mod I may be wrong but infinite soda needs a prod?

[Nibbui]

by the way I don't think mastina posts are towny neither I do think infinite looks necessarily scummy

it was more to try to sort ou sheep than anything.

both are strongly at null until I give them a look later with some special glasses.

[Nibbui]

i just watched two games with tw wolf

i barely even loosely followed the second one

but tw is fucking clear here too

dont throw

I need to comment on this though

tw scum play on this site might be different from what you've seen from him in MU

I don't think tw is ever a easy read like you're saying here

[Nibbui]

It's not only her subbing out, it's a lot of coincidences but I don't feel like talking about it, I'll give a chance for the replacement but if I ever need to case I'll explain why it seems really scum indicative for her to rep out here.

[Nibbui]

The only thing binding me to this game (beyond a general aversion to replacing out) is a strong desire to prove you all wrong, and that isn't healthy, good for the game, and I don't think it would be particularly enjoyable for anyone.

Suffice it to say, if you think me doing this is scum-indicative, you must think very poorly of me as a person and as a mafia player. The thought that I would leave this game, the mod and my scumbuddy behind just because I rolled scum (despite the fact that I made an effort and made it to endgame in TAZ, a game with

RC

in it) is actually just very insulting.

Last post.

like, NSG, you know I like your town game a lot and if you read a bit my read on you one of the reasons I was town reading you for is because I think you're pretty good on making reads that will look good as scum unlike some people think.

I'm even giving the replacement a chance. It's just that this has happened more than once and the history points out to be more likely to be scum!you and it's hard to not get into the paranoia.

You're honestly confusing things thinking that I think you would replace out because you can't play as scum.

If you ever replaced out as scum is because you didn't feel like playing as scum and not because you can't. I'm just being reasonable and not seeing the replace out in a good light because of your replace history.

It would be the same thing if I ever got a bit disengaged in a game, it's just natural to get the paranoia given my history as well.

I apologize if you got offended but what you got offended for is something I never thought, and quite in the contrary, like I did in this thread I'm one of the people that constantly see potential in your scum game.

[Nibbui]

No, I understand NSG frustation tbh

I've seen people thinking a bit badly of her scumgame and that's pretty unfair because her scum game can be quite strong specially in playerlist that don't know her town meta very well

I just think she is confusing things up here like I explained in my post

[Nibbui]

I feel bad for real by her misunderstanding me here

I said before as well "because that's what she could come up" but I meant it considering disengaged!NSG, I for example did misread scum!her in a Newbie game because I just thought her case was too belieavable.

I just got a bit disinterested in mafia right now

so easy to get on misunderstandings and personal fights even if you don't mean it...

[Nibbui]

hmmm, maybe I'll end up replacing, everygame I end up getting in a fight with someone...

anyway, I don't remember as clear as I would like but before I was doing my work on sheep and I would say he is nulltown. I'm a bit down though so it may not be as good of a read as it could be.

[Nibbui]

good news?

you've come up with a way to town clear yourself and a god tier PoE for us to lynch scum to victory mindlessly?

that would be good news I guess.

[Nibbui]

idk

my mom always said to not trust ducklings too much

they always will try to steal your bread when you're distracted

but I guess I'll trust you this time

[Nibbui]

@podoboq can you link me your last games? I don't care if it's on a different site or if it's on an alt

I would appreciate if it had at least one scum and one town game on it but I'm accepting anything you have there

don't need to link the old games you've on this account though, they're too old imo.

[Nibbui]

hmmm

interesting

a hydra of Ari and Nancy replaced NSG slot huh?

I've not seen much from either of them so I feel that I got even more work to do and that's troublesome

[Nibbui]

Oh hi Ari

about Ari being a unstoppable scum god, I saw it.

Large theme Turn of Camn wasn't it?

Ari did a god carry there indeed

[Nibbui]

I'm actually troubled if I should or not do some work on skitter and you since you guys are saying that you will take a break from the site soon.

Hmmmm...what a question...

[Nibbui]

I was townreading NSG before

but I can't get over my paranoia of her replacing

[Nibbui]

Yeah, it's not strong paranoia anyway

it just did make the slot go from nulltown to null

VOTE: mastina

mostly PoE

[Nibbui]

But why is NSG always scumread? \_0_/

wait what do you mean here?

NSG is known for getting strongly town read in late/middle game and sometimes even in the begin.

[Nibbui]

it was a username pun

northsidegal because the term northside refers to town

and the worst because scum are the worst

at least that's how I read it

I'm actually voting mastina because the other active slots are above her on a towny metric and I'm trying to give your slot a breath.

Soda isn't active as well so wagoning him is worth nothing.

[Nibbui]

Hmmm

I just want to point out that sheep hasn't been outisde his scum range at all. I don't think anyone has and that's why my list has only nulltown, because I find more likely them to come from town than scum, but they haven't done anything particularly strongly outside of their scum range.

[Nibbui]

To be honest I can see scum!sheep here but there's others slots to look at right now.

and no, I'm serious this time.

I was joking earlier but now I actually don't get tw's strong town read on him. I undestand having a town lean, a strong town read not at all.

[Nibbui]

It's less that he has been scummy and more that he hasn't done anything

really

outside of their best scum range.

[Nibbui]

thanks.

what's the towniest thing in your ISO considering your scum range by the way?

[Nibbui]

I think NSG just was ticked off by me scum leaning her replace out. There's some history for that and I understand her.

By the way podoboq, if anything on you changed personally during your break, in what would you say you changed? (this is a bit personal so it's fine if you don't want to say something or don't want to answer at all).

[Nibbui]

Thanks a lot for answering. I hope you're town here because you seem like a nice guy.

I feel I'm already feeling a team in particular but I'll be skeptical and do my work before tunneling.

[Nibbui]

Maybe Perceptive Ball.

Is what you are thinking something that just popped up in your mind in the last pages and you weren't really expecting it?

[Nibbui]

Hmmm

reading games is tiring...

First game I'm trying to actually solve a game for real, I half tried it on Newbie 1970 but my approach was wrong.

I wonder how good my final d1 reads are going to be.

[Nibbui]

I think that 5 days from now on I can give my final reads because I'll have done my homework on everyone until there

I'm shitposting mostly until then I guess

I might be getting addicted to sugar as a trivia fact, eating sugary food always help me get in the mood to be productive as weird as that sounds

[Nibbui]

maybe 6 days actually.

6 days and half.

I'm not sure how much I'll be able to explain my reads though as there's things I'll want to save to myself

[Nibbui]

I'm quite surprised that podoboq is above sheep.

Why the need to drop sheep so much when you had a more consistent read on him since early?

Also, do you feel that podoboq is towny enough to be that high?

[Nibbui]

VOTE: podoboq

[Nibbui]

Hey guys, real quick. Is the general consensus that mastina is incredible at this game?

why would you ask this?

[Nibbui]

I understand now something that I never thought it could be true:

engaging people make them usually harder to read (some players are an exception but generally speaking yes).

I've like, made d1 way less useful than it could be. something to reflect on and adopt on later games.

engaging people in my opinion right now is mostly useful only in the start of the game and I'm not going to explain in details why, maybe in post-game.

I'll probably try more of the playstyle of shitposting until I've done my work on everyone and therefore start solving for real.

I'm posting this mostly to quote on my next town game for people to not get paranoid of a disengaged!Nibbui.

[Nibbui]

Ok so I've other slots to check on and I'm tired of reading Podoboq's games because I've like, already put what? 4 or 5 hours on it? and I expected him not being one of the hardest to get a feel on (not because you're bad or anything podoboq, but because you aren't as experienced as some players here and the more experience you've in mafia, the more you become self-aware and start to be able to play any way you feel like).

The more you roll scum number is the feeling "woah, I'm scum, an outsider" while posting and that just makes meta reads harder imo.

Your scum game is pretty good and I'm not as sure as I would like that you're town here but...

Yeah, you can be town for now I guess?

You've changed your scum game btw if you're scum here and I need to say it would have got even better.

[Nibbui]

[Nibbui] - town read
[Podoboq] - town lean
[skitter, sheep, the worst, Pink Ball] - nulltown
[mastina, Nancy, Infinite] - null

there's probably one scum in my nulltown reads right now by the way but we'll get there eventually.

[Nibbui]

by the way can I get like, Innocent-Child level now?

schadd should just come clean and mod confirm me as town tbh

you can only dream of me doing intense meta as scum, principally when I was already town read anyway.

treat me as treestump I guess

[Nibbui]

it's because I'm trying to mislynch town lol

stop sayin' that I shouldn't play for my win con Perceptive Ball

[Nibbui]

but ok, here

VOTE: unvote

soon I'll buss my buddy though

[Nibbui]

by the way could maybe one of the heads of the hydra sign the posts?

It's a necessity if I'm trying to accurately read you guys and if I can't because I don't know who is posting I unhappily need to say that I'm super /in for lynching the slot...

I know that all the posting so far is from Nancy though, just saying for future sake

[Nibbui]

idk right now, I need to do my homework on some people here

I need to say though that mastina is always a good lynch if I don't get a scum read on anyone before or if mastina doesn't like, become obvtown.

I think that trying to accurately read Mastina would take me more time than trying to accurately read all of the remaining slots and I don't have that much time

sorry mastina, I mean, I'm even complimenting your scum game but the consequence is that I find +EV town lynching you if I don't get scum reads.

I think I'll have scum reads by the end of my sorting though.

[Nibbui]

VOTE: sheep

[Nibbui]

Perceptive Ball you don't find my lack of paranoia making me less townier?

[Nibbui]

There's like 3, 4 different types of town-looking content that scum can make--a player making one in overwhelming quantities is an indicator that they aren't scum; a player making more than one in large quantities is indicative of them being town; a player making one of each type--but

not

making more than one or two of each type--is not something that indicates town, because a well-rounded scum player will always hit some of their town notes, in limited quantities.

And quantity is the problem I am talking about--there are aspects of town in the worst's posting, but none so strongly overwhelming as to be something beyond his scum range.
And I see evidence of his scumplay strewn about. If a user is producing a type of content which is town in

overwhelming

quantities, it is a fairly safe, reasonable bet that odds are they are town.
If a user is producing a few different types of content which are town in a significant quantity, it is basically all-but assured that they are town.

If a user produces a few sporadic, inconsistent, random pings which look town, but are otherwise overwhelmingly showing evidence otherwise.
That is not town, most of the time.
It is okay if you don't have any real reads to initially use weaker sort methods--and if those weaker sort methods give you a clear direction, great! Hone in on it, refine it, and find what makes them real.

But if your initial weaker sort methods are self-evidently, obviously flawed, then what you need to do is cast them out and start over with a new method that

does

work.

I said it to you last game, and I mean it this time, too.
I genuinely feel like your largest weakness as a player is that you lack conviction--you come to the right conclusion, but talk yourself out of it down the line because of doubt, because of some weak thing that you thought indicated something when it didn't. Reassessing can and is a strength, and I feel that it is your greatest one...but it is only a strength when correctly timed.

A correctly timed reevaluation can fundamentally shift the game in the direction it needs to go; wrongly timed reassessments will fundamentally shift the game in the direction of a mislynch.

I don't think this post is AI for you but let me explain myself anyway:

I've got what you're saying, but it's not so simple sometimes and you know it.

You said I lack conviction and that is like, basically my town play in short. In Open 741 I was scum reading Radiant from the get-go and even posted so in the unreleased private thread, however when I engaged with him I just got talked out of it because I was always reconsidering it, and ended up going for lynch bait that I thought was most likely town than not (because I was always considering "I might be wrong").

(Ceejay was a special case really, I've 0 idea why he played the way he played).

However, that's why I'm playing here the way I'm playing. Unless I have a firm logical case on someone I'll always lack conviction. Therefore I decided that the best way for me to play is to sign up in Micros because here I can do my homework on everyone and come up with a metric to read them based on, and I can put some confidence on it because there's anedoctal evidence.

It's not a strict meta read based on content, It's just understanding their personality and who they are, because in Mafia you're always *projecting* what people might or not do and don't matter your metric, it'll fail, and probably plenty of times depending who you are playing against.

My read list so far is mostly something to not look on too deep tbh. It was just impressions and I can end up reconsidering it. This is what I'm not reconsidering without good reasons though:

Podoboq is considerably town

Pink Ball is likely town (this one can fool me hard but I feel there's nothing to do if he is fooling me here)

You can argue that I've only begin to game solve right now and I plan in my next town game only to shitpost until I come to this point I guess.

[Nibbui]

like, mastina fight me

why Podoboq is scummy and don't say because of his RVS post

I want real meaty reasons

[Nibbui]

I might or might not have found scum.

spicy.

[Nibbui]

mastina if you do consider for a moment that podoboq is town, who is scum with TW?

[Nibbui]

all I've to say is podoboq don't replace out, endure it

I'll soon come here with my game solve and then we can engage

[Nibbui]

I see

I want to shitpost so I'm posting this post, let me ramble:

I've been looking around and I noticed that most of the micro games doesn't have more than 30 or 35 pages, in other words this game in day 1 is already larger than the majority of the other micro games.

Not only that, since in 1/3 of day 1 we've almost 40 pages, I'm expecting this to be one of the largest recent micro games (note: recent).

I wonder if that's positive...

probably?

maybe.

[Nibbui]

what if we actually get scum right on d1 and just quick lynch the other one on d2 though?

wouldn't that be like...just sad?

I'm expecting this to reach 100 pages at least

[Nibbui]

I wonder if that's positive...

No. It's god awful.

What...?

In your alt you seemed to like shitposting a bit more

join us sir

we're dealing with scum!mastina so that'll help pad things out!

oh look shenanigans of a 1v1

[Nibbui]

what if we actually get scum right on d1 and just quick lynch the other one on d2 though?

wouldn't that be like...just sad?

I'm expecting this to reach 100 pages at least

maybe we should lynch you D2 just to make the game longer

like

that's not a bad idea

these guys thinking about playing for their win con just don't get it

we live for the memes

imagine we locking the scum team only to begin mislynch town for the lolz?

it would deserve a kodak moment although this year it's going to be the mastina video for sure

[Nibbui]

hmmm

Infinite needs replacement I guess, 4 days off already

It's weird though, I saw him posting in the queue that his *team* would be bringing up games (he was going to mod).

I was like, expecting him to stay around?

Maybe it's a impression but I don't see as much new players as there is in the newbie games in other queues

I mean, sure, newbies will play in the newbie queue but after playing some games most don't go around the site that much, it's pretty sad really

Also I wonder if I should still consider myself a newbie or if I should consider myself semi-experienced?

good question

[Nibbui]

look I know all this fluflly from me is annoying but shitposting helps me get in the mood to be productive again

As a trivia fact I sort of wanted to roll scum here against this playerlist, but I'm fine with being town as well I guess

also the sample role of worm townie is funny schadd

[Nibbui]

what if we actually get scum right on d1 and just quick lynch the other one on d2 though?

This literally just happened in my game that just finished with sheep!

Hey guys, addendum to "I've never played with anyone here." I just finished a game with sheep. I thought he was town in my other game, but I was wrong. He looks the same to me in this game, so I'm less confident in my townread on sheep. I'll explore that more some other time.

oh that game finished?

that's good I guess

[Nibbui]

Let's all pray for someone relatively easy to sort replaces infinite soda as well

I don't want to read many more games than I already need to

[Nibbui]

Hmmm

trivia fact I wanted to play a newbie game.

It's fun to play with completely unknown players that can't have meta used against, although it's way easier to mislynch someone for playstyle issues rather than real scumminess

the fact I'm on an alt is troublesome though, also there's 36 hours prodge and I don't know if I'll have as much time as I've now next week

I guess I'll only be able to play newbie games from the dead thread mostly...

[Nibbui]

ok last fluffly post

I want to drink a lot in New Year

my mafiascum.net objective next year is to lynch scum but I'm not confident I can

also I want to roll scum once to see if I can get as town read as scum as I'm town read nowadays as town

I miss marathon games where I rolled scum every time although back then I wasn't in the mood to play scum.

I mean yeah, playing scum is kind of boring sometimes but I'm growing more fond of it

My favorite alignment is SK though because not only I can kill whoever I want at night, I can scum hunt as well and can try to manipulate town.

It's like, the ultimate fun role

if someone here ever mod a game I'm in, and there's a SK role in the setuo, give to me please, screw the "randomly assigned" ethic rule

[Nibbui]

I modded a lot in the last marathon days and it's somewhat fun knowing everything but I'm not so sure if it's something I would constantly like to do

hmmmm

ok it's official, let me go back on doing stuff

VOTE: schadd

the game is bastard though

[Nibbui]

I just had a mind blown

I'm sad that I don't have scum reads yet

I want to lock a lynch order and just shitpost until they get lynched

this is too hard

[Nibbui]

ok so I've shenanigans that two 1v1 is happening from here

one of them I'll find particularly dumb but it doesn't mean it's AI

it'll probably be AI but still dumb

[Nibbui]

but it doesn't mean it's not AI***

It'll be probably be AI.

[Nibbui]

Nancy why do you think that sheep is good on reading you?

can you link me to recent games where he does that?

[Nibbui]

also I don't find anything off with sheep right now, I didn't say that

[Nibbui]

it can be games on MU

what is his ratio more or less of reading you/misreading you?

[Nibbui]

I’m sorry guys, I’ve really been trying my best - despite being overgamed and unwell. I also signed up to play in a hydra but so far, I’m the only one carrying this slot. :/

~Nancy

why are you overgamed?

[Nibbui]

hmmm ok so forget it

I'm not tryharding so hard anymore

accurately getting a metric on so many experienced players in such a short time span is just exhausting and I'm not progressing as fast as I would like

Also that readlist full of nulls was me being careful about who to call town or not because I've been fooled so many times that I'm afraid of being wrong but...

screw it. If I'm wrong I'm wrong and that's it. I can't help being incompetent.

in my opinion:

Podoboq is town

PB is likely town

All the rest of you guys are null as of now although I'm a bit biased towards to end up town reading tw because I don't want to fight with him again

[Nibbui]

Until the end of day 1 I expect to at least have 4 town reads though

Optimally 5 because with five correct town reads it's a mechanical town win

[Nibbui]

Also I'm not going to try to meta Mastina because that would take a whole week

I'll take her posts at face-value and try to get good scum reads on other players if she is perhaps town here

I've a weird gut on someone right now but let's wait and see

[Nibbui]

My reads are usually <<<<<<<<<rand but let's try lynching scum still today

not sure if Nancy is scum though.

[Nibbui]

what do you two think about nancy repeating that i should have her as v for meta

how many games have you played with her?

is it uncommon behavior for her? is it wolfy behavior?

[Nibbui]

I think it's wolfy though

[Nibbui]

VOTE: mephistophanes

L-1

don't under any circumstance hammer yet

also Nancy, don't claim yet

also² podoboq, according to the last VC you're voting Mephistophanes.

[Nibbui]

I'm really not sure if Nancy is scum though.

Maybe we are wrong?

[Nibbui]

You’re setting us up for scum to quickhammer us.

don't under any circumstance hammer yet

[Nibbui]

Nancy why so aggressive?

Are you in a bad mood in IRL?

[Nibbui]

Also, sheep is town simply because he asked you something after you said that he should ask you something?

how lazy of a read that is anyway to be honest?

[Nibbui]

You can vote me but I don't think that would ever make a difference...

I'm like, seriously not getting lynched here


also I scum lean you for your posts so that is why I voted you?

I'm not sure that you're scum but you're the scummiest in my book right now

and if you ask why specifically I would say is because that you're being a bit obnoxious about votes on you and entered the thread too cutesy saying that "no one but RC can read NSG".

[Nibbui]

If you’re town here, stay the fuck out of dead chat!

why...

[Nibbui]

Hmmmm

but why should I stay out of scum chat if I'm town here?

[Nibbui]

Also, are you in a bad mood in IRL?

[Nibbui]

Hmmmm

but why should I stay out of scum chat if I'm town here?

why should I stay out of the dead chat If I'm town here******

[Nibbui]

Hmmm

VOTE: unvote

This might be town Nancy to be honest

I was just reading her games right now and there is a lot left for me to know more in-depth about her, but this frustation...hmmm

probably town?

[Nibbui]

I'm not sure though because I've not yet studied more specifically about her reactions

Also Nancy if you want to really know why I did put you on L-1, it was to try to sort you better because if I didn't, you would probably get lynched today.

You and mastina were the unique considerable wagons and we're approaching deadline and the game is stalled

Almost every player here has a scum lean in your slot also

if things kept the way they were, you would probably be the last minute lynch

There's one more reason but I'll keep quiet about it for now

I wasn't expecting such a big reaction though...woah...

[Nibbui]

Also it wasn't L-1 tbh

Podoboq unvoted before and the VC is wrong

[Nibbui]

Hmmm, no

I just asked if you were in a bad mood in IRL because sometimes when we come to play mafia when frustated with something IRL, we can end up being more frustated than we usually would

anyway, afterwards I'll come here with my conclusions and guys be nice to Nancy I guess?

[Nibbui]

It's ok Nancy

if you're town here I'll whiteknight you

I'm not sure that you're town yet though so bear with me

In probably at maximum 2 days I can give my conclusions

maybe even tomorrow or today tbh

[Nibbui]

No Nancy, what I mean is that I'm coming up with a metric on how to read you and that metric will be probably finished at maximum on the next two days and then I'll give my final read on you.

You don't need to explain why you're upset because with what you just said I'm 80% confident that I already know why.

[Nibbui]

PB relax

don't be mean

she has her own reasons

[Nibbui]

Also Nancy don't get mad on Pink Ball

let's just calm down

it's almost New Years as well and in New Years we need to be nice

This is just Nancy's playstyle and I can explain afterwards how to read her

[Nibbui]

No Nancy, what I mean is that I'm coming up with a metric on how to read you and that metric will be probably finished at maximum on the next two days and then I'll give my final read on you.

You don't need to explain why you're upset because with what you just said I'm 80% confident that I already know why.

How? How is that even possible? Or if you really do have some idea, then you shouldn’t say anything because then you will get into trouble as well.

But I think only one person really knows everything and they aren’t even in this game.

Anyway, I apologize for what I said to you. I am very angry but nothing I can get into in the next couple of days but if you actually do know, then you only know a very small part of it.

I'm good on guessing things I would say, unhapilly that doesn't work on guessing alignments because people aren't completely logical very often. Also I know I can't say about it yet.

Don't mind what you said to me by the way, it happens, it's ok.

Also yes, I think I only know a small part of it and not the full thing.

[Nibbui]

I'm starting to think that we've a chance of lynching scum in day 1 tbh

Also Nancy don't get mad on Pink Ball

let's just calm down

it's almost New Years as well and in New Years we need to be nice

This is just Nancy's playstyle and I can explain afterwards how to read her

Pink Ball? This has nothing to do with them?

what you are uptset about has nothing to do with Pink Ball, but Pink Ball and podoboq seems frustated with you talking about your own meta and I don't want you guys to argue with each other over it

sometimes you get upset or sad when people critiquize you and you don't need to here

let's forget what happened in the past three pages I would say?

Who are you suspicious about now that you think that sheep is town?

[Nibbui]

@Nancy I still don't have any good cases, I might come up with some later, I asked more to see if you had noticed something new and wanted to talk about

@podoboq Hmmmm, I guess you have a point

[Nibbui]

i largely don't really have anything else i want to say;

i'm happy to end the day

after lolwagons gets a chance to get himself oriented; this day has been a little long and exhausting

hmmmm

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

MHMHMHMHMHMHHM

...

no

[Nibbui]

I think the last 5 pages have a fair amount of AI posts.

and I'm not bringing everything up because I'm still getting ready

Also I think that Nancy is town although I can change after analyizing scum!Nancy more. But for now yeah.

[Nibbui]

Lolwagons that behavior can come from town!Nancy tbh.

She actually does all that you're claiming to be scummy as town.

She tries to replicate that as town though and I'm currently trying to discern the details between scum!Nancy and town!Nancy

but yeah, even if she is scum here it's definitely not for those reasons

[Nibbui]

She tries to replicate that as scum****

I meant

I'm currently trying to find solid differences between scum!Nancy and town!Nancy basically yeah

she gets scum read a lot for this behavior

[Nibbui]

Very interesting by the way that you're not town reading me lolwagons

[Nibbui]

Why would I try to make it look like I'm busy reading people games when I can just keep giving comments on posts in-thread and keep the status quo in my town read?

Also I'm not stupid enough to promise something only to not deliver it later

[Nibbui]

Very interesting by the way that you're not town reading me lolwagons

Also do I know you? Do you know me?

Why would you expect me to townread you

I'm not expecting you to townread me tbh

just interested in your read on me since everyone else was town reading me apparently

[Nibbui]

Meh.

I think part of what has made this game so grueling is the overuse of meta.

With all the talk y’all have done about it any player could probably earn a townread from half the town just by following the outlines that have been put in place in thread. I try to use meta more retroactively.

Like, the Sheep thing about clears. That’s done. He can’t take that back and it’s not subjective or vague.

I'm not putting any outlines here to Nancy to follow

I tried first to get interactions with her only to afterwards explain whatever alignment her posts might indicate that she has

what you are scum reading Nancy for is NAI as a fact even if she is scum, and that's also a fact. I'm just pointing it out.

She can still be scum but not for those reasons.

[Nibbui]

/shrug

This is the first game I'm playing this way so I'll not insist

Also I'm not done with my metric on her and she has not many posts

I'll do a case on her being town though if in the end my final read on her is that she is town (who knows, I can change my mind)

if you guys buy it or not I dunno however

[Nibbui]

Yeah

I can see where you are coming from

It's just that Nancy has a different playstyle/comes from a different community and I have seen her do similar things as town, as for example insistently saying "you're pushing for a mislynch" when someone voted her in the early pages where people just jump on and off of wagons without much reason

(and I suppose she thinks that way because in MU the votes have more...weight I would say? you don't just idly vote people since the days are short there)

I don't mean that it's not something to look on, you have a point, but yeah consider it with a grain of salt

I particularly find Nancy a hard read early in game

[Nibbui]

For today I'm done reading

this is super lamist but don't hammer anyone yet please

like, there is a lot to talk about yet imo and I only am not bringing it up because I need a bit more time

[Nibbui]

I mean, you can take it either way as long as we don't suddenly lynch Nancy because I'm pretty sure there is enough people for lynching her already (scum reading the slot)

[Nibbui]

that was meant to lolwagons by the way^

[Nibbui]

Wtf is an L-1 vote without wanting a claim or intent even for!?
Nibuli, you may be new but I expect better. What literally was the point? I want to know.

I explained why nicely in 1078 and idk why you are asking if you did catch up to page 44 because my explanation post is in the begin of it

Yeah, Nibuli, this was uncalled for. Please consider your tone when approaching things like this. It makes a big difference!

I'm not one to mind stuff like this but...

hmmmm

what was ever "uncalled" for?

she even badmouthed me when I just casually asked if she was in a bad mood in IRL to be interacting with me in such a way?

I'm nice but not a pushover. I did nothing wrong there.

[Nibbui]

That's not a hammer as far as I know...

[Nibbui]

hmmmmmm

I've some things to say

[Nibbui]

From a cold pov Nancy here is somewhat wolfy on her metric but considering some special circumstances the slot can go either way, really.

If Nancy is scum here though Mastina has a considerable scum equity by their interactions followed by a lesser extent by tw

I'm somewhat confident that I can read Nancy on d2 or later in this day however because I've spent probably around 11 hours doing my homework on her and I don't think it's only a "meta" thing, in this time I've come to know more about "who" is Nancy I guess?

I want to lynch Mastina today though because she has good partner equity with all the different possible scum teams imo here

[Nibbui]

From a cold pov Nancy here is somewhat wolfy on her metric but considering some special circumstances the slot can go either way, really.

If Nancy is scum here though Mastina has a considerable scum equity by their interactions followed by a lesser extent by tw

I'm somewhat confident that I can read Nancy on d2 or later in this day however because I've spent probably around 11 hours doing my homework on her and I don't think it's only a "meta" thing, in this time I've come to know more about "who" is Nancy I guess?

I want to lynch Mastina today though because she has good partner equity with all the different possible scum teams imo here

What’s the difference between now and day 2?

Nancy hasn't had enough interactions yet to solid read her and there's something special about later days on Nancy

[Nibbui]

I can always look on what she has already done and lynch her but right now she has special circumstances and it wouldn't be as much of a solid read really.

I don't want to hard fight against it though, I'm in a bad mood and don't have much energy

[Nibbui]

hmmmm

good

now we've competing wagons therefore I've more time to stalk people

so I'm here:

Town
Podoboq

Likely town
Pink Ball
LolWagons likely town (although I need to check something here)

Special Cirmcunstances
Nancy I don't know as of yet but I'll probably have an opinion until the middle of day 2

Skitter aside from a somewhat superficial read I don't have a strong opinion yet because Idk her play, I think she is more likely town than not but she can fool me, I'm sheeping PB on her being town for now though

PoE
Mastina
Sheep
The worst

[Nibbui]

I particularly like more the idea of lynching either Mastina or Sheep than The worst tbh

[Nibbui]

VOTE: Mastina

[Nibbui]

if tw is ever scum I want to lynch him for last

yes it's just because he is charismatic

[Nibbui]

I can change my mind if I ever find a strong reason to scum read him though

[Nibbui]

duck where has gone that mastina scum read?

hop on this wagon we have cookies

[Nibbui]

I think no one can correctly read mastina here and her posts at least for me are nullscum because I've not seen any fluidity on her reads

she did read the opening posts and her later readlist is basically the same than it was on page 1 or 2

that's not normal imo

[Nibbui]

:/

read lolwagons first posts

do you think that comes more likely from scum than town?

[Nibbui]

from now on this is NAI for anyone that try doing it but this is my reason to say he is + equity town

he doesn't town read me, that is basically town read by everyone

and not only he didn't town read me, when I asked about it he was all confrontational instead of being more mellow and saying "well, I did town read you but I'm not sure right now".

I mean, he more or less said it but he was pretty confrontational before it

and like, I think it is a read that makes sense because I've been intentionally sketchy in the last pages

[Nibbui]

idrk either

I know I'll feel shitty if a mislynch happens here though, specially if it's you

but idk what to do

[Nibbui]

Hmmm, I've something to say here but read all of it, carefully, before anyone jumping to any conclusions.

Nancy in Heroes PT:

I am not usually obvtown read from the getgo, despite what Ank said. They’re are definite differences between my town and scum games but only someone who knows my play, really really well, would ever pick up on them.

I will never be townread based on AtE ever again, since for me, that’s totally NAI.

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I think what Acid said to you back then was bad, but look, here you need to recognize that you used that to manipulate Toranaga in feeling bad for suspecting you when you were actually a wolf:

I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.

Based on? You also thought that Acid had valid reasons to wolfread me in the light game. I wasn’t scum there and I’m not here either.

I’m sure you wish I was though. Sorry to disapoint.

I didn't play that game and all I said was that acid wasn't

nasty

or

treated you viciously

. I could care less what his read looked like, but I'm defending his right to say everything he said about you without being misrepresented as a nasty vicious player. everyone who read his posts agree with me.

anyway let's not do this? I'm trying to avoid it. if you're town I'll figure out soon enough and I have absolutely 0 wanting of you being a wolf or whatever.

I mean that you probably wish I wasn’t in this game, amirite?

Like here, you think that it's something personal when really, it's not. He was simply scum reading you and everytime someone suspected you, you always thought that it wasn't a *valid reason* and you say this in the Mafia PT:

I’m not going down guys and don’t bus me, please. There is no logical reason to suspect me at this point.

So just freaking chill. I got this.

To make justice though, you didn't use AtE when you replaced in Witches Halloween in a scum slot. You were pretty chill there indeed.

Also, your AtE here isn't what I would expect from scum!you, it really seems like frustated town!you.

I'm only posting this to make you understand where The worst is coming from regardless of his aligment, it's really not personal Nancy. It's just that in Heroes your scum game used

a lot

of AtE, and that is one of your unique scum games in MS. If I look on for example on your scum game on MTG or in Witches, I can see why you think that this behavior is a town tell for you, but considering what happened in Heroes, people are still going to somewhat suspect you.

I recommend that when you eventually roll scum again, you actually don't use as much AtE as you used on Heroes because that will make your argument sounds convicing. I particularly think the perfect example of what you want to do in regards to that is be more or less like Sakura Hana.

She somewhat uses AtE as scum but it's very subdued, not-aggressive and weak. Also, although she only uses strong AtE as town, she doesn't always use it as a "trust tell" (what is not allowed in the site) except when she is very frustated with the game (as you're now and I understand you, I already got very frustated on Mafia as well).

But

again,

I don't think you use this kind of AtE, attacking a person not a idea, as scum.

I think this is frustated town!Nancy

for now and I'll let you breath and give your thoughts in the thread so that we can read you better, and I was trying to do that anyway since the start.

Then yeah, for now I'm town reading Nancy's slot although I'll be very, very let down if you're ever scum here (but I don't think you are!).

[Nibbui]

Then yeah:

Town
Podoboq
Mephistophanes

Likely Town
Pink Ball

I don't want lynched today
Skitter
Lolwagons
(maybe duck)

[Nibbui]

If TW is scum I think mastina has positive equity of being scum by the fact that they voted her but didn't really push her and sounded like just waiting for NSG's wagon to come close to a lynch to hammer

if Sheep is scum I think mastina isn't a out of possibility partner

Even if, anyone still scum reads Mephistophanes, that points to Mastina haveing positive equity of being scum imo

and I've like I said, a weird impression on their readlist because it's the same from page 1 or 2 what somewhat makes it sounds like they are creating a narrative instead of looking deeper in players actions

I think what she said about podoboq and duck is valid, but my problem is that she is clearing people for stuff that sounds a bit surreal for me + was scum reading TW since the start when I think he sounded fine in the first pages.

[Nibbui]

So in duck's readlist he had Nancy and LolWagons as scum and mastina as null; Nibbui asked him what's up with mastina and he replied that she towntelled because she read him backwards, but that she could go either way. Now that Nancy towntelled, the duck votes mastina.

Nibbui, not lynching the duck for being charismatic... I feel you, I really do. But duck's flip is better; I'll even say that, if I'm wrong about the worst, from my PoV the game would be solved in D2.

It's not only that he is charismatic tbh

I was the one to invite him to play, and same with Mastina

I feel really bad for needing to put both of they on my poe

but duck is a bit different because like...I hardly had a game with duck where we could solve together the game and we already *tried* lots of time

it's either me being scum, or him being scum, or we getting arguing because we aren't good at all on reading each other (I think duck is better at reading me than I'm on reading him though, specially since I feel his play as whole is under transformation).\\\\\\\\

I had read some of his games but I never really tried to analyze him better, and that goes same for any player until this game where I'm trying to learn how to read each player.

I'm conflicted here and don't want to risk mislynching him I guess

[Nibbui]

I can hammer duck if it comes to that but I would rather have Mastina today

[Nibbui]

Perceptive Ball

did you hack my brain

you've like, identical thought process as me

aside from me being more confident that podoboq is town although it's kind of old meta (I tried to not pick on details though but his scum mindset)

but dunno what to do

if Mastina is town, tw is very probably scum imo though

and if both Mastina and TW are scum, I think sheep flips red?

Like, if not even one from [Mastina, The worst, Sheep] is scum we're probably screwed anyway

[Nibbui]

if both Mastina and TW are town I think sheep flips red**** I mean

[Nibbui]

Want a superficial argument too? How resisted the worst's wagon has been compared to Nancy's indicates that his/her partner doesn't want to bus 'cause there are good alternatives to mislynch (aka mastina and Nancy, now LolWagons).

I don't think so.

There's enough people already for a TW lynch probably, or very close to that

I think Mastina had more resistance

TW voted her but didn't care to push and only waited for the hammer on Nancy slot

Sheep comes to the thread, unvote Mephis, town lean everyone except Mastina but doesn't vote Mastina yet

[Nibbui]

there is not many Mastina votes and I don't believe that you're afraid to hammer sheep

[Nibbui]

like

if TW flipped town we would probably go for Mastina

if TW flipped scum I would go for Mastina

if Mastina flips scum I'll probably go for either sheep or tw

if Mastina flips town I'll need to go for tw

I feel that it doesn't matter as much who we lynch today tbh

I just want to hope that Mastina flips red, we lynch Sheep and he flips red and I don't need to go for tw

[Nibbui]

by the way I feel stupid for some reason because I'm not as confident as I would like in this solve

but it's what I have right now

[Nibbui]

nibbui can you talk to me about why you have podo such high v


especially since i still have some idea of recent meta

I think he would have reacted differently to Mastina if he was scum, and also a bit different when I talked with him about you

[Nibbui]

I think his rage in regards to Mastina is genuine, and he even seems to have deleted a post about Mastina's accusations due to being angry

About his reaction on me engaging him, I don't think that scum!Podoboq would have even voted you only to make me still be in the game

I think he would still say the same thing but not vote with me there

like I said, I'm not as confident as I would like, but I'm more confident on at least one scum being in [Mastina, TW, Sheep]

[Nibbui]

ok I'm laughing reading some of tw posts because he is being like, really sarcastic

and idk if that's him low-key scum claiming or if he is just upset with the game

also I'm laughing that you rap battled in a scum game, I'm definitely reading that

[Nibbui]

I think that it was American President that MathDino was rapping in his posts?

I was initially going to read the game but I thought it was so funny that I only ended up reading Math's ISO

we should make gimmik rap alts guys

[Nibbui]

Micro 840: Mystery Rap Battle of Silver

[Nibbui]

I think the problem with metaing duck is that he is like

very depedent on his energy levels

but I think he has been somewhat scummy for in-game reasons and I can explain

I would rather explain while having a rap battle but idk how to rhyme in english very much

[Nibbui]

duck you were fine being d1'd not long ago

what changed

[Nibbui]

oh right

i just read scum chat

we're claiming cop and doctor tomorrow

good plan duck

[Nibbui]

guys

Mastina is looking townier than TW

send help

[Nibbui]

yeah but I'm coming around that it may just be that mastina is tryharding this game and getting in a tunnel vision

I mean, i'm not putting her out of the PoE

but duck your play here has been different than what I would expect from town!you and I'll explain

[Nibbui]

You aren't being that inquisitive duck that I've more often see in the town games

you are being more the reactive duck and only interacting with slots when it's a necessity and when it's not beneficial, you don't seem interested in sorting them

you had a scum lean on both mastina and Nancy, but instead of being engaging them you sounded more laid back waiting for the lynch on Nancy

you didn't seem trying to sort Nancy, neither Mastina, and neither Lolwagons currently

it seems you were just waiting to join today lynch whatever it was, and that is visible when you wanted to hammer Nancy and end the phase soon

also, you getting this sarcastic about the whole thing is something I expect more from scum!you than town!you although I can see a unmotivated town duckling saying these things because he isn't enjoying playing this game very much

[Nibbui]

and only interacting with slots when it's a necessity and when it's not beneficial, you don't seem interested in sorting them

"and only interacting with slots when it's a necessity or beneficial to your stance, and not engaging when it's not beneficial to your current stance****

[Nibbui]

I don't think that you tried to sort Nancy in a genuine way before it was very apparent that she was town is what I mean

[Nibbui]

duck, you're talking about how you engaged Nancy recently

I'm talking about how you didn't seem very worried with sorting them before people were changing their minds on the slot and the wagon losing force

it's not a total lack though, but you seemed pretty fine with just lynching Nancy without hearing more from her

[Nibbui]

like, let's agree on something:

everyone was fine with lynching Nancy before I constantly said "hey, wait up, that might be town"

it sounded somewhat a lazy push considering that you said you can decently read Nancy

the wagon was there and...it was there

you would hammer when the time came and you even gave intent

I understand what you're talking about, after that you and Nancy had a sort of "1v1" and it was...VERY genuine

but idk if it's AI, it's genuine but it sounds more like a personal thing

[Nibbui]

do you think Nancy would have townspewed if I hadn't engaged so actively with her in spite of thinking her slot was obvscum or

I think she would never have townspewed if I hadn't constantly said to people not end the phase or to not hammer yet

you guys even had come to L-1 and you giving intent to hammer

I bet she would get hammered by now if I hadn't said anything

[Nibbui]

I wasn't campaigning very hard for town!Nancy because she wasn't entirely out of her scum range there

I was very hard campaigning very hard to not hammer her yet and to hear more of her while you were giving intent to hammer what even if you say that was to rile her up, it can go either way since your intent to hammer wasn't followed by your questioning Nancy past posts

[Nibbui]

it can go either way

you needed to give intent to hammer regardless of your alignment

and my trouble is that I can't see cristal clear your town motivations

I can see town!duck giving intent to hammer to get some reactions from Nancy to try to sort her better

but like, you have a couple of posts saying "if Meph reds", "Lynch Meph today and sort out me/lolwagons tomorrow"

so I can see a scum!duck just really getting ready to hammer a mislynch

[Nibbui]

hmmmm

yeah but you lolhammering there, it flipping green, and it all after me asking repeatdly to not hammer, is basically a scum claim imo and you would 100% get lynched next day

in a scum pov, I can sense you were testing waters, no one was buying Nancy's AtE and although you were ready to take back your read on them, you were also seeing if the situation would keep going that way and a hammer would be possible without looking very badly

[Nibbui]

I want to lynch Mastina today though because she has good partner equity with all the different possible scum teams imo here

Helpful hint:
If someone can be scum with anyone, they are scum with no one. (They're town.)

Actual scum don't make it so that they can be partnered with anyone; they make it so that they look like they're partnered with a few specific town players, such that when those town players flip town the scum are townread, or when the scum is lynched the town are scumread.

This makes sense but by "all possible scum teams" I'm already restricting my pool to only some players, not the whole playerlist

[Nibbui]

I still don't see what you're seeing as town in mastina's posts, it's like agenda driving => fear mongering => sweeping holistic theory statements => repeat

I think that it's not necessarily that they are town

but they aren't scummy as I once thought

[Nibbui]

I wonder if I'm getting under Mastina's charm though

[Nibbui]

mastina my problem isn't you lacking fluidity on your reads, I know somewhat that when you fix your reads on someone, you stay with that for a while

my problem is that you fixed your reads on page 1 or 2

in Red Flag you had a whole day to fix your reads on and it makes sense you keeping them static there

here you hadn't much to base they on firstly though

maybe it's just a coincidence however

[Nibbui]

I don't know if Mastina begins the day by hard bussing tw in the hypothetic scenario they are partners though

If I remember right, she has a somewhat aversion for bussing. Not that strong but idk if she would do that since the start of d1.

this game is messing up with my head

[Nibbui]

I can see where Mastina is coming about podoboq as well

not their RVS entrance or whatever

but their play here is very consensus and laid back yes

oh god...

[Nibbui]

we should make gimmik rap alts guys

Actually.

I, uh.

I already have one.

WE ARE GOING TO RAP BATTLE SOMEDAY

[Nibbui]

IS SHEEP PERHAPS SCUM

[Nibbui]

I'M NOT GOING TO BELIEVE MY EYES IF THERE IS NO SCUM IN [Mastina, The worst, Sheep]

[Nibbui]

I think the problem with metaing duck is that he is like

very depedent on his energy levels

but I think he has been somewhat scummy for in-game reasons and I can explain

plaese do explain

im totally not just looking for reasons to sheep nibbui rn

I feel that the "obvtown" duck only happens when he is fairly high level energy and engaging everyone in thread

but he is a bit burned down by mafia I think and idk if it's as scummy as it was before the lack of this specific behavior

probably not?

[Nibbui]

this game is making me dreppresed tbh...

I wonder if I should end the day...

duck, if you're town here, will you be upset with me post-game?

[Nibbui]

Intent to hammer although I'm not sure

I don't want to be stuck in this situation anymore...

It's just depressing really

[Nibbui]

That's fair Mastina.

I only have seen more of your scum games, I don't have as much touch with town!you

(you roll scum a lot!)

[Nibbui]

Protectives shouldn't go for me by the way and this is

not

WIFOM.

I'm a bit overgamed and can't contribute much in day 2 really

I would actually be happy by getting nightkilled today although I don't think it's likely

Pink Ball isn't entirely outside of their scum range imo but they are fairly townie and they are pretty perceptive here (I mean, they are as known as perceptive ball)

Pink Ball is a nice target

and

THIS ISN'T WIFOM.

I'm speaking honestly here.

[Nibbui]

I'm a lategame confirmable town power role.

I don't think this goes well with you saying that it was "fine to lynch me today" tbh

I mean, you could only be showing false bravado but I think that back there you already were a realistic lynch candidate, I'll check it again

but by "late", how late are we talking about? and it's 100% confirmable?

[Nibbui]

I'm spent

I want to end the day and take a breath

please answer me duck because depending on what you say, I can stay on Mastina wagon and try to convince sheep and podoboq to vote with us

[Nibbui]

we should cross-vote <3

does power role duck ever say this?

You're the kind that try to not out you're a PR as much as possible, and doesn't like wagons on you when you're a PR as far as I know

your play here doesn't match it but I can hear you

[Nibbui]

I'm going to try not to

I want to hear him though

[Nibbui]

If Duck flips red I want sheep

[Nibbui]

I'm not sure on Mastina being obvtown though

[Nibbui]

duck

if you're a PR I think your first concern would be to not get lynched

why are you acting like this when you could just explain yourself

[Nibbui]

If Duck flips red I want sheep

Well you look at that... I called it before it was cool

c'mon Perceptive Ball

sheep has been in my PoE since I read some of his games and we were together on thinking that there was wolf in the "townblock"

if he is wolf I deserve cookies as well!!!

[Nibbui]

duck

you really can't blame me for hammering you here if you are town

like, I'm trying to hear you but what you're doing here just sound like you're trying to mess up or create associatives before the flip

[Nibbui]

I'm trying to hear you so that I don't lynch confirmable town power role

you're not helping me

[Nibbui]

Like, I tried to engage with you after your claim and even explained that I could try to strongarm Mastina today if I thought you were reasonable

but instead of engaging me you just went to shade Mastina and call us bad

It really didn't help me in trying to see town you and now I'm even more biased to think that you're scum but let's try it

I'm trying to help. What are you trying to hear?

I'm a lategame confirmable town power role.

I don't think this goes well with you saying that it was "fine to lynch me today" tbh

I mean, you could only be showing false bravado but I think that back there you already were a realistic lynch candidate, I'll check it again

but by "late", how late are we talking about? and it's 100% confirmable?

[Nibbui]

duck

from what I know of you, and I know it isn't much, your first priority here would be to not get you lynched, ever, even if it meant you being the nightkill, and then after that going to push your scum reads for the lynch today

I'm trying to revalueate you every second but this just doesn't match nicely

[Nibbui]

Nibbui = very very likely town but his frozenness and stiffness rn is making me panic

like, what does this even mean?

I'm literally jumping between voting you and Mastina all day today

I was literally jumping between whiteknighting and accepting Nancy lynch

I even commented to Mastina that she had good points about podoboq

I'm not stiff really imo

[Nibbui]

duck

from what I know of you, and I know it isn't much, your first priority here would be to not get you lynched, ever, even if it meant you being the nightkill, and then after that going to push your scum reads for the lynch today

I'm trying to revalueate you every second but this just doesn't match nicely

yeah?
wait what?

you're not as much as trying to not get yourself lynched as you are throwing the throw even though you're supposedly confirmable town role

I've a weird point that you can still be town here since I think you would have simply claimed cop for example as scum to try to out any cops here

it doesn't make sense what you are doing though

[Nibbui]

I'm pretty sure that the NK thing was sarcasm regardless of his alignment

[Nibbui]

duck

from what I know of you, and I know it isn't much, your first priority here would be to not get you lynched, ever, even if it meant you being the nightkill, and then after that going to push your scum reads for the lynch today

I'm trying to revalueate you every second but this just doesn't match nicely

yeah?
wait what?

you're not as much as trying to not get yourself lynched as you are throwing the throw even though you're supposedly confirmable town role

I've a weird point that you can still be town here since I think you would have simply claimed cop for example as scum to try to out any cops here

it doesn't make sense what you are doing though

I don't want to be lynched because it's mechanically bad. I'm trying to PoE scum because my actual wincon is lynching scum, not avoiding my lynch.

I'm not entirely sure I'm following what your issue is with what I'm doing, could you elaborate a bit on what makes my combination of survivalist / scumhunting or shadethrowing play decisively scum indicative to you?

I don't have a problem with you being survivalistic

I have a problem with you not being survivalistic when you are a confirmable town PR and you think that there is obvious scum to be lynched

town!duck puts a lot of importance on power roles and we are on a micro where there's probably not many of them

I expected you to be a lot more decisive on the stance "I'm not fucking getting lynched today, ever."

[Nibbui]

like, it's as if you're avoiding trying to be survivalistic because for some reason people think that "being survivalistic is a scum tell" when in truth I think you would be way more likely to be VERY survivalistic here and just saying "I'M NOT GETTING LYNCHED" if you are a CONFIRMABLE town role.

in Jungle Republic I basically got that you were a PR because you were like

"yep, nop, you guys aren't fucking wagoning me today you bitches"

[Nibbui]

I don't have a problem with you being survivalistic

I have a problem with you not being survivalistic when you are a confirmable town PR and you think that there is obvious scum to be lynched

town!duck puts a lot of importance on power roles and we are on a micro where there's probably not many of them

I expected you to be a lot more decisive on the stance "I'm not fucking getting lynched today, ever."

1) I am eh towards power roles but as you know I'm secretly reasonably good at mechanics but that is also a mild scumtell for me

2) what do you think my current posting is? I'm L-1 with intent. wtf else am I meant to do?

No, your first post was "lynch me and when I flip town powerlynch Mastina or you guys are bad".

Also I expected you to at least answer my question as soon as you entered the thread or full claim

[Nibbui]

I like the fact that we're suspecting each other but we're not getting heated

Duck

let's assume you're town

your PoE is basically [Mastina, Lolwagons, Sheep] right?

My PoE in next days is [Mastina, Sheep] and Pink Ball is the same as long as you flip green

Are you getting mad on me for not hammering you because whatever gambit you've tried, it definitely didn't succeeded?