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Why do you ask
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Why? I think Majiffy would town read me based off that postIn post 19, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm strangely intimidated and intrigued by T..
Reck is less scummy than Majiffy town reading his post imo.green shirt thursdays-
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I'm interested in his motivations for asking a question to which I have the options of:
- Answering that I'm green town, which shows nothing
- Answering that I'm red town, which is obviously not possible, and shows nothing
I'm not letting jokey ha ha im so casual now lemme lurk away Ari get away with anything heregreen shirt thursdays-
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Because it's the kind of attitude Majiffy would expect me to have as townIn post 25, CheekyTeeky wrote:
I have entered games saying I'm town as either alignment. Unless it's a trust tell then I don't see how that's possible. Why do you think he would see you saying "I'm town" as towny rather than scummy from you?In post 22, xRECKONERx wrote:
Why? I think Majiffy would town read me based off that postIn post 19, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm strangely intimidated and intrigued by T..
Reck is less scummy than Majiffy town reading his post imo.
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TBF i didn't know that you would read me town for it, i just surmised based on your post + context cluesIn post 48, Majiffy wrote:
All of this is 100% correct but now that I know that you know that I would town read you for it I have to rescind my read based on WIFOMIn post 27, xRECKONERx wrote: Because it's the kind of attitude Majiffy would expect me to have as town
I think it's tonal
Why are you voting Ari? Ari is town.
it's not a meta thing it's more like "I know Majiffy and if I had to guess why he's reading me as town it's X"
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cheeky scumreads reck for dumb reasonsIn post 64, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm scumreading Reck for getting all serious in the first place contrary to Penguin thinking he's town for being the fun police. I agree that Ari is likely town for the same reason. Also his moonlogic for townreading Reck seems towny.
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i don't have to discredit you, the proof is in the pudding
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nullIn post 79, CultOfAthena wrote:What's your read on Cheeky, Reck?
i have no reason to read cheeky as either alignment rngreen shirt thursdays-
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because after im dead i rarely go back and read games.In post 86, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Actually, how can you doubt my ability to read you if you don't recall my alignment? If I was scum I'd know what alignment you were.In post 83, xRECKONERx wrote:i don't recall what alignment cheeky was in any previous game
i just recall frustrating moments where cheeky has read me wrong. consistently. it's not about meta, it's about my read on her ability as a player to read me.
i only recall the moment.
I don't know. does it matter? I'm not cocky enough to think i can read someone's motivations on page 3In post 87, CultOfAthena wrote:
Scum don't make real reads. Do you think cheeky is actually reading you here? You haven't indicated that you think her reasoning is being made up, despite indicating that you think it's very poor.In post 83, xRECKONERx wrote:i don't recall what alignment cheeky was in any previous game
i just recall frustrating moments where cheeky has read me wrong. consistently. it's not about meta, it's about my read on her ability as a player to read me.green shirt thursdays-
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cool goalposts u got thereIn post 88, CheekyTeeky wrote:Also Reck I have never mislynched you so I don’t know what you're crying about.green shirt thursdays-
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Minus my name, this is an okay listIn post 136, PenguinPower wrote:I didn't see where you were TRing them both until after CoA's readslist. Reading back on you saying how you liked I read the game kinda makes sense with that statement though.
But, yeah. Ok.
{Majiffy, Chickadee, Maestro} with an outside chance of {Reck} and a spacelaunched chance of {Ari, TTTT}.green shirt thursdays-
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my thoughts are that meta is garbage
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that's correct
i have always been an advocate for lynching people that lurk and do nothing and people always shout me down about it and then the last game we played town went full pants on head stupid and let ari cakewalk to victory because he lurked out early game and/or contributed nothing but jokes and shit
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maestro has not proven to me he is capable of bamboozling a town after lurking out all gameIn post 285, PenguinPower wrote:
But you don't want to lynch Maestro...In post 282, xRECKONERx wrote:i have always been an advocate for lynching people that lurk and do nothing
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bby u like?In post 305, Majiffy wrote:
Your avatar is really fucking me up right now manIn post 297, xRECKONERx wrote:maestro youre making this really hardgreen shirt thursdays-
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huh allow me to introduce you to ari's iso
he has spent the entirety of the day making jokes, talking about off-topic shit, or just randomly questioning people while providing no reads of his own.
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and maestro has one content post too so like idgiIn post 249, Maestro wrote:As far as I can tell, two things happened really early on that turned me right off, and one of them was T4 talking to me like a child, while the other was people misusing the words "lurking" vs. "inactive" or "not around" or whatever, because they're very different and one implies I care a lot more than I do and was trying to antagonize the playerlist and the mod when I would hope it's clear I had no intention or desire to do that.
So let's fucking stop? Lurking is being around and planning posting times or some bullshit. Not posting is not posting. If yuo have a problem or think I'm doing the former, fine! But it's New-Year-new-me and it's annoying as hell so I'll call you on connecting dots where there are none.
- T4 is stil an edgelord. Seemingly taking stances that, to me, not many others are taking (45 69 116 does not make one town, even if he seems to think it does (43 and other posts seem to be along this line, mentioning "town wouljdn't do this, too risky" - literally puts forward the philosophy he thinks makes scum look town... which we can figure he would try to buck if he was scum trying to look town, makes sense to me) ALSO wik, he pushes Majiffy and Chick on how well they read eachother, and calls Chick town... but says almost nothing about Majiffy. I also don't like how much nhe comments on other ppls' readlists. Skeevy. "Woohoo hairs" gimme a break, you sound like a Sim or a Mii
- Ari's ISO is awful, not sure how he's been allowed to skate by on it so far; every single post without fail is either a joke or a question (no follow-up in sight), and he talks to people like he's a happy-go-lucky-0couldn't-be-less-serious-or-more-innocent-guy and cI basically agree with Reck's first post about notl etting that go because it's likely to bite us up the ass. Like, same kind of shit from above here, tho, and idc if I look too butthurt about it at this point, inactivity as reaction test is what I'll consider the last few days: (from 204)
That, to me, does not read like somebody going "I am also interested in Maestro's alignement and I think we should pressure him" that reads as "meh, let's see if I can cast doubt both on the tactic being employed and the target of said tactic - maybe the game will stall even more, or Maestro will feel I've done him a favor by potentially letting up pressure and I will be seen as doing something even tho this isn't a Newbie Game and I'm not an IC"I doubt voting him will have any effect...
Like that works on newer players but experienced players are far less likely to be pulled back into the thread due to a wagon on them.
ugh
OH I found another tidbit as I was finishing:
This is the first mention of anything serious, and the first direct mention of T4 to somebody else, while his only interaction with T4 has been to joke about MafSilver (In post 221, Aristophanes wrote:TTTT is probably where my vote is going.hint: it's the best, it's the first, MafBlack burns eyeballs) and to, in his own words, "just be snarky" about the Role PM bs which was all NAI to begin with because most of the playerlist is SMART ENOUGH that this "my role PM is this color" thing means NOTHING - I should say about half of the list is smart enough that it means nothing, to the other half apparently it means enough to talk about it for 7 pages, more-or-less/on-and-off
- The only other posts I had time to truly parse was the first bit of Cheeky, then Reck is scum with neither Cheeky norMan jiffy based on pages 3-5, and I don't think Reck/Majiff are super Townshitfrom their interactions with eachother specifically, but I definitely would agree that they're Scum together because of those. But honestly, literally anything can be faked if you're experienced enough, and yes, I fucking say that shit as either alignment because it's true anbd people who don't agree are wrong or not experienced enough to realize that it's true, one or the other.
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player with awful lurker meta gets pass on awful lurker meta despite winning games on terrible awful lurker meta as mafiaIn post 339, Alisae wrote:
Isn't that the town ari that always gets mislynched?In post 330, xRECKONERx wrote:huh allow me to introduce you to ari's iso
he has spent the entirety of the day making jokes, talking about off-topic shit, or just randomly questioning people while providing no reads of his own.
the only post that could qualify as content is 300 and even then he slips right back into contentless dreck
dunno, haven't played in awhile.
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noIn post 356, CultOfAthena wrote:Right.
@Reck, what's your read on me? You had me as town earlier – has that changed?green shirt thursdays-
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This entire wagon is lynchable rn tbhIn post 386, mith wrote:3 - Alisae (TTTT, PenguinPower, CultofAthena)
The Maestro wagon was always sketch and then the Alisae wagon before she could even catch up was doubleplusbad
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CoA was scumreading Maestro prior to Alisae replacing inIn post 406, PenguinPower wrote:There were only three votes in play (yours included) and CoA had a scumread with 2 votes on. There was no way you could push through Ari.
it was possible Alisae replacing in had alleviated that read
and tbh im not gonna sit here and play apologetic for at least TRYING to ram through a lurker lynch at the last second when EVERY WAGON had two votes on it?
esp considering you fuckos hammered a town slot???
like the push on maestro yesterday looks so goddamn bad
he was lurking, sure, but so were other people
every reason thrown at the maestro thing was easily applicable to others (coughARISTOPHANEScough)
the maestro wagon was full of bad ideas and bad faith imo. i havent gone back to read who else was frothing at the mouth for a lynch on maestro but yeah ESPECIALLY considering the replace-in, the hammer was really fucking bad.green shirt thursdays-
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you literally quoted a post in which i said it was purely a lurker lynch on maestro.
you quoted a post in which i was defending maestro's inactivity and the push on him
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I did not do the mental gymnastics to say "Hmm, well, I believe I'm right about Alisae, therefore it's likely one of PP/T4 is scum, therefore I should add a vote to one of them instead of pursuing my already-existing desire to lynch Ari"In post 422, PenguinPower wrote:
Both TTTT and I were other wagons, and you thought the wagon on Ali was trash, and you think I'm trash today for voting Ali.In post 419, xRECKONERx wrote:my other option was voting for one of the other three wagons and none of them looked tasty
Like...nothing changed between your option to vote me or TTTT and the lynch on Ali except CoA hammering and actual confirmation of what you actually already thought.
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i mean it doesn't matter because i clearly didn't feel strongly enough about any of the three that i felt like voting them was the right move so anything i say now is just me trying to make up what i would have done in a moment that has now passed and has been influenced by shit that has happened here
it's a do nothing question that SPOILER does nothing, but is asked in an attempt to make it look like Aristophanes is contributing to the game in a meaningful way
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if i literally couldn't have voted for aristophanes (which is dumb stupid fantasyland idiocy, again) i would've probably voted for TTTT because he gave me weird vibes D1/was a long shot scumread for me after several others plus his avatar is the creepier of the three
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what happened to you thinking im scumIn post 444, PenguinPower wrote:
There's no way you actually think I'm scum here.
I'd prefer Majiffy, but would vote Ari.green shirt thursdays-
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i think the whole maestro push d1 was scummy because it was viewed as an "easy" lynchIn post 510, the worst wrote:talk to me about how you think this is wolf motivated (assuming you're calling 1/maybe 2 on-wagon?)
and then maestro flew in getting all defensive, which gave scum even more cover to keep pushing
meanwhile i wanted ari dead and thought the lack of consistency in people wanting maestro over ari made absolutely no sense whatsoever
i think the wagon on maestro and eventual hammer on alisae was shitty because
1) the entire d1 push on maestro was logically inconsistent and looked like low hanging fruit
2) the primary complaint had been centered around maestro not doing enough so then he gets replaced by a capable player and........we hammer it before that player can even catch up??
like i think that wagon was just an absolute slam dunk for scum. I don't think both scum would be dumb enough to jump on that wagon, but 1 on 1 off seems entirely too likely. scum had laid groundwork to cover their ass in case they were pushed for it by pointing to "oh well maestro didnt do anything d1". in fact, it's funny that instead of those three being analyzed, the game somehow turned into SPECIFICALLY yelling at me/Cheeky for our votes on Aristophanes insteadgreen shirt thursdays-
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I do not see town motivation in "oh this person just replaced in, let's kill them before they can contribute"In post 516, the worst wrote:What's tipping you off that this is certainly scum motivated rather than possibly town motivated?
none. i dont see it at all. obviously they can't all be scum, but i have to believe at least one of them is. i dont think anyone anticipated i would get as livid about the maestro wagon as i did, there weren't any warning signs, so i dont see why scum wouldve avoided it.green shirt thursdays-
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citation neededIn post 524, CultOfAthena wrote:Reck has done nothing except unilaterally declare Ari scum and then make conclusions based off of thatgreen shirt thursdays-
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please point to where it was so super obvious you were ride or die with voting alisae when it looked to me like you were engaging alisae and trying to form a read and then WHAM you voted
i think you're overstating how "obvious" it was what you were doing. in fact, looking at your posting around alisae at the end of the day yesterday, it looks pretty suspect that you were not taking a side either way? like you were just pushing on me and pushing on alisae but i can't seem to find where you stated a for sure committed read at any point
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