Micro 852 Gators at the Gates: Tales from the Georgia Swamps

[chennisden]

i'd prefer a 2 room person, but i can get the logic with the 3 people like in case someone accidentally buddies mafia.

@GL @URAP i am fine with rooming with u D1

[chennisden]

i dont want to use the most powerful room D1 tho.

HEAL: Herb's Hardware

[chennisden]

@falter a 4 person room is useless IMO

[chennisden]

How would you feel about us getting a room with Chenn D1?

i want a room with at least one of you, TTTT, or GL

Will explain in the room

[chennisden]

I think 3 person room is the best

I don't want to have 4 people as is might be hard to weed out scum, and 2 people is too easy to get pocketed.

BTW guys one person can be in > 1 room per day! should we agree that we do a 3/3/3 split w/ 1 room per person D1?

HEAL: nower county school

[chennisden]

what do you have to say this early that you trust URAP, TTTT, GL enough to say to privately but not willing to say to anyone else?

i dont trust them yet exactly, but ive played with them before.

@fall flat "this is a dumb question" should be from falter IMO

but yes, why would i answer

asking seems scummy IMO

[chennisden]

@Eragon if it's important ofc I wouldn't say it in thread

However, as the game changes, I will decide on who to room with + divulge.

@urap it's fine, i only need 1 of u 3

[chennisden]

this is definitely an entertaining gimmick tho, we'll see if it makes me play better or worse. probably worse. but oh well at least i'll learn something about myself as a player.

-fall flat

its a fun gimmick IMO

it might make reading u easier, for better or worse.

[chennisden]

im just curious on your reasoning for not being willing to divulge "important" information to the thread in general, but you are willing to divulge "important" information to people that you yourself said you don't fully trust yet.

i wanna room with them to evaluate them

because i think if any of them are town, then divulging D2 after more thoughts might help

ofc this is all subject to change, but this is how im leaning since URAP suggested it

[chennisden]

i wouldnt say i know anyone particularly well due to my short time here

but those guys feel like they can sanitycheck me the best

[chennisden]

HEAL: Nowur County school

town lean on chennis
for asking to room with GL, URAP, or me
ballsy move if scum
(ongoing game so I'll say no more)

no longer ongoing

last time i tried being ballsy i got lynched D1 soo

[chennisden]

@URAP & @GL
you guys cool with a TTTT-chennis-URAP-GL room?

hmm im fine with this

i hope theres not more than 1 scum

i prefer 0 scum

[chennisden]

request Teachers lounge with GL/chennis/URAP

accept

[chennisden]

i hope theres not more than 1 scum

why?

if theres 1 scum then i think we can figure it out

i dont want to say too much outside of room, cuz i want to do something in room... its sort of a town gambit

[chennisden]

i also dont know how i feel about RVS in this game. due to the room nature idk if it's really needed

just for the trolls here goes:

VOTE: No Lynch

this is not a serious wagon

[chennisden]

am i? why do you think that

also i dont want someone to vote me for troll voting no lynch (but i wont say more due to ongoing games)

[chennisden]

i know im testing your patience, but i will explain in time.

[chennisden]

Hey guys

HEAL: Nowur County school

This is the best choice. I imagine we don't need to fill rooms to capacity, so

objections to 4 person hoods are meaningless

.

Bold for emphasis.

Also, cute assumption.

but this is like 1 post, it doesnt seem too awful

[chennisden]

Okay, check it.

Your question is bad from the start, because the post I didn't think was townie came after the post in which I said I was falling into his pocket. So even if I had been scum reading Chenn after that post, it clearly would not have been why, or even related to, my pocket comment.

Second, do you think that every post from scum is scummy? Do you think every post from town is townie? These are rhetorical. They aren't.

I can dislike a post (which yes, means I don't think it's townie) does not immediately mean that I'm scum reading them.

thank you, you worded what i was trying to say very eloquently

[chennisden]

we still have two people with 0 posts

HURT: McQueen
HURT: Vedith


come outta' yer darned swamps down thur

i dont like their lurking at all

but i dont like your slot either

also @urap i fully intend to lunch someone

and i think i have a slot i might wanna put my vote on

[chennisden]

what do you have to say this early that you trust URAP, TTTT, GL enough to say to privately but not willing to say to anyone else?

i think this is the post from this slot i like the LEAST

this is probably also the post i like the LEAST

[chennisden]

Hey guys

HEAL: Nowur County school

This is the best choice. I imagine we don't need to fill rooms to capacity, so objections to 4 person hoods are meaningless.

I'm not sure what part of him screams scum other than "objections to 4 person hoods are meaningless"

He didn't greet the thread (which is URAP's fav scumread) and has posted minimal content

yeah votes arent necessarily for people you lunch, but i think you implied a scumread on him

[chennisden]

what do you have to say this early that you trust URAP, TTTT, GL enough to say to privately but not willing to say to anyone else?

i think this is the post from this slot i like the LEAST

this is probably also the post i like the LEAST

what about THIS post specifically do you dislike?

The worst thing IMO is that you wanted me to answer this question

And answering publicly = giving scum the answer which is a no no

but its very obvious i dont want scum to have info because i dont want them to do something with it

but ive said too much

[chennisden]

ok here are my thoughts on eragon:

I dislike a lot of the posts your slot made, but when you put it together I don't really think scum would play like that

@URAP i do think he could be town but votes arent necessarily for people who you want to see lynched

[chennisden]

@Eragon I've been hostile towards you, told you to vote me, and given a naked town vote on you.

It seems like you're asking people or commenting on about everything you can think of, but you declined to ask me why I town read you. Which is odd because it makes no sense considering my other behavior.

Which is not the reaction I was looking for.

VOTE: eragon

???

why do i care the reasons that people TR me? I know im town, so it doesnt really help me to acknowledge people that tr me, especially with something like "hes probably town" which doesnt imply much confidence. I don't care if your hostile or not, it doesnt really matter to me

so you can defend yourself when a wagon forms

i think RVS has been over for long enough for me to decide this

VOTE: Eragon

[chennisden]

@Slaxx when we getting our rooms?

[chennisden]

sigh

you use other people's townreads so you can have better REASONS to defend yourself

[chennisden]

@191

hmm this actually has changed my mind a little

since I'm bad at this game, I will keep an open viewpoint

please remind me to talk about this postgame; I have thoughts on "I'm clearly conftown, because I'm town" or "I'm town because X"

although I do think that you should defend your own actions ig

[chennisden]

"im town because..." is actually universally regarded as a really bad defense

maybe we are wording the same thing differently

[chennisden]

That's correct.

[chennisden]

So when you say "I'm town because #505," you can actually back it up.

[chennisden]

you should care who townreads you

because solving is only half the battle; you gotta convince the rest of the game that you are not scum and you solved right.

[chennisden]

ok guys

im out of rvs!

VOTE: rosterfoster

yeah GL and URAP i kinda get your point - pls tell me how you can see scum so quick

[chennisden]

^ i dont necessarily agree, because scum can manipulate town easier ESPECIALLY if they double team

[chennisden]

eragon, im not roster

the "im out of rvs!" was my way of saying im pretty confident about this scumread

[chennisden]

oh i had to post that in 1 min, yes i should have said "this is obvscum"

but to make it clear:

roster is obvscum

[chennisden]

gonna read soon. Not a fan of pregame banter and I never got that sweet Day 1 Begins! message

it wasn't banter; in case you didn't realize, we got reads off of it!

[chennisden]

he just gives naked votes and bad reads.

he seems like a good player, but hes playing an absolute poop town game here - makes sense if he's scum

[chennisden]

also, the "u r a person 2" method can be applied - if you greet the thread ur scum

[chennisden]

URAP i've explained more in PT.

[chennisden]

I know people can be wrong with their reads. That's why I'm willing to move off you if the evidence is enough.

I don't know what to make of you being the one on the announcement. It probably makes you more likely to be town...

[chennisden]

here goes

Hey guys

HEAL: Nowur County school

This is the best choice. I imagine we don't need to fill rooms to capacity, so objections to 4 person hoods are meaningless.

Hey guys.

rosterfoster did you read the game before posting this?

Yes.

greeting the thread - scummy move, but on its own means nothing

I think Chennis is scum.

Oh yeah, I should
VOTE: Chennis

nice nude vote dude

And I'm presumably playing a poop town game because I'm attacking you, yes? If you're town, believe it or not people can be wrong with their first reads (shock horror!).

no, you're playing poop because you have a naked vote on someone who's been mostly townread...?

[chennisden]

no, you're playing poop because you have a naked vote on someone who's been mostly townread...?

this is scum indicative why?

-fall flat

from town roster's pov, there should be much better people to vote

anyway im not eating rope fyi

and i might've been townread in the PT's, ill check and see

also roster, you're good because
1) i assume people are good because i dont call people bad and i dont ad hominem
2) ive read through your games and you play good

lets not get too ringed-up on a shitty meta point

[chennisden]

no, you're playing poop because you have a naked vote on someone who's been mostly townread...?

this is scum indicative why?

-fall flat

because its

naked

and he should be able to find at least some scummy stuff to back it up

[chennisden]

how about Eragon

I don't think he's THAT scummy, but he's a better place than me

also, @roster the meta argument of "is roster normally good" is quite bad - my thoughts were "roster is playing bad town game" which in retrospect is still a bad meta argument

[chennisden]

So you think I’m scummy because I said ‘Hey guys’ twice (in case your brain isn’t functioning, the second time was not a greeting) and a placed a vote early on without giving much reason?

Also because I voted you?

Is there anything else, or is that just about your argument?

If you think I'm town, probably best to vote for someone you think is scum, no?

Let me gather my thoughts - there's probably other stuff

[chennisden]

Your ISO is pretty short, so nothing I haven't covered already. The naked sheeping on 244 is not a good look for you either.

Explain how 232 is not a greeting. It contains no content and "Hey guys" is a greeting last time I checked.

[chennisden]

By the way just in case you guys forgot about this

HEAL: Nowur county school

[chennisden]

I'm going to be VLA due to illness. It will be around 1 to 2 days

[chennisden]

if you know its stupid and you know you'll have to pre-emptively defend yourself then why do you bother posting it?

because a lot of players just post whatever they feel like as town?

also u2 i don't know if you did this but don't quote from pt's.

-fall flat

I think copy-pasting is fine, as long as the authenticity of it cannot be proved

[chennisden]

Sorry I've been busy on top of sickness (it's better now though), could you summarize the questions?

[chennisden]

I'm a doctor who can't use their ability twice in a row.

Lmk if you want me to ctrl+c my role PM

[chennisden]

Assuming I survive today and tonight, I would like a room with Falter tmrw

[chennisden]

I think chennis gave up

i dont give up

[chennisden]

"My goal was to clear or to find scum. Ideally I would've softed to only you three. If I wasn't NKed then you guys all seem more towny and if I am NKed then we know that it's in this group

But now I'm NKed"

posted in PT

[chennisden]

and I hope this clears up what I was doing

4 person PT worked best so 2 scum couldn't buddy me and bury my corpse

[chennisden]

So do you think I could've possibly made up the flavortext?

I am a "Human Retired Doctor."

My active ability is "Patch em Up" (protect a person)

My passive ability is "Old Coot" (can't do night action twice in a row).

[chennisden]

It was a bad idea though.

VOTE: urap

[chennisden]

Someone consider that this was an incredibly easy mislynch based off of an error in wording

When I flip doctor (whether day or night),

here's your lynch order.

URAP->mcqueen->Vedith->roster/Eragon (no order)

And here's your town.

FaFF - strong townread
GL - townlean

[chennisden]

So do you think I could've possibly made up the flavortext?

I am a "Human Retired Doctor."

My active ability is "Patch em Up" (protect a person)

My passive ability is "Old Coot" (can't do night action twice in a row).

I think it's entirely possible (probable?) that slaxx provided you with a fake claim

And you think, in that case, there is no town protective role? At the very least there should be someone with a

building

ability to heal if I'm fake.

I accept that I'm the lynch today - but this is your next lynch.

[chennisden]

But we can get URAP to out himself as scum because idk about you but he seems pretty scummy to me (and I hope he'll seem scummy to enough of you when I flip as EXACTLY what I claimed)

[chennisden]

gg

[chennisden]

Hmm why is Eliminate limited use?

also I think the game was too focused on the PT's

[chennisden]

mfw both my modded games end within 24 hours of each other

I think next is Vegas Mafia....just have to think on it a bit.

pre-in me!

same

i love me some slaxx games

[chennisden]

wow; there were a grand total of 2 prods

[chennisden]

After the D1 lynch + NK I didn't expect town to win esp with FaFF's gambit

wow my only correct scumread was a brief one on McQ

also comments about FaFF: tbh your "hydra" thing barely changed anything; you seemed exactly like a normal player and I feel like at least for me I've treated Falter/Fall Flat as a signature (since gut/logic is IMO kinda obvious anyways)

[chennisden]

yeah, the conversation around chen not claiming his name made me think he was PR and you and Vedith were VTs.

didn't think Eragon would play as active D1 if he were a strong PR, that was a mistake

well, i claimed PR and you guys knew I was town so I was quite obviously PR

also yeah; i had a name, but it was "Doc"