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[Nimueh]

Hey guys.

~ nsg

[Nimueh]

Skygazer finding you as town from that interaction seems kind of unjustified and trying too hard to "get something done" quickly. RadiantCowbells's attitude towards his vote feels to me like town more working off of a feeling and being relaxed about it, which feels more genuine.

I like this post. Reads like a townie opening.

[Nimueh]

i think apthet's necessity to have information pried out of him is bad

but

he might be new

Why is it bad? If she’s an alt, why would you scumread he for not wanting to out their main. How is that necessarily AI?

[Nimueh]

i think gazer is scum btw

Yeah, you might be right because I’m not scumreading apthet.

Currently

Nimueh
RC
apthet
SS
Oka
Skygazer

Too early to have more than that.

[Nimueh]

Page 1 Skygazer town

Why?

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Skygazer

Reasons?

[Nimueh]

VOTE: nimueh


@singletonking, why is that vote obligatory?

Reasons?

[Nimueh]

VOTE: ThatOneMedic

Why? I liked their opening.

[Nimueh]

rc do u really think me n sky could be buddies

because from what im reading thats what you think

I don’t think you are likely buddies. Your interactions don’t read s/s to me.

[Nimueh]

i have no idea how to read your minimalist playstyle so far this game.

RC is town from this.

[Nimueh]

forcing a townbloc is a rlly bad way of going about making a townbloc

i think a lot of things are just being left in my head/notes/wherever they're being left so i'd like to clarify that RC's posting feels like genuine town frustration especially after playing with him in the past

Sky may be town afterall.

[Nimueh]

ok but clearly

1) you aren't trying to force a townbloc
2) neither is skygazer
3) i don't care if the game is shitty if im scum

Oka may be town as well.

Nimueh
RC
Oka
Sky
Single
Apthet
Lion

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Skygazer

And given this naked RVS vote, it shows signs of GL being uncomfortable to participate in RVS, so I now like my vote.

It’s not a good opening, to make a vote and post nothing else.

[Nimueh]

maybe

skygazer
singleton/oka
RC

SS just above null
whoever isnt listed as null
GL just below null

ap

Why do you think ap is scum here?

Am I missing something?

[Nimueh]

i have no idea how to read your minimalist playstyle so far this game.

RC is town from this.

You don't think RC could fake that as scum?

Sure but that kind of post comes more often from town than scum.

He is clearly trying to read that slot. It shows a townie motivation.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh, you misunderstand me. My take on apthet changed whether she is an alt or not. But if she is new, then her posting imo is nai bc I can't use meta so I have to generalize based on my experience with newbs

I don’t know why her being an alt affects your read on her this much. Thinking it over, I’m nullreading her posts atm.

[Nimueh]

Sure but that kind of post comes more often from town than scum.

He is clearly trying to read that slot. It shows a townie motivation.

RC is self-aware enough to be able to fake his town thoughts very well. Especially something as straightforward as that.

You really shouldn't be townreading him at all unless you have extensive experience with him.

Do you think any of his posts look scummy to you?

[Nimueh]

Do you think any of his posts look scummy to you?

I don't like how he immediately tried to stir up shit with Oka.

But I'll readily admit that I have no idea how to read him.

He has backed off of him since.

I feel the best rn about RC, Oka and you.

[Nimueh]

You literally asked her for comments one minute after her first post...

This post read to me like someone who is trying to play the part of a rational person.

honestly i want someone to post who i can townread.

Definitely reading into this a bit more than I maybe should, but I thought that responding to this was you sort of subconsciously showing discomfort.

You really shouldn't be townreading him at all unless you have extensive experience with him.

I felt like this was you trying to discredit a potentially strong town player early on, to establish breathing room.

I can see how this is a part of your playstyle, but more importantly, your immediate response about it being a playstyle definitely makes me think that you're exasperated town who gets this a lot!

VOTE: Nimueh

I don’t know if he’s “exasperated” exactly but I do think he’s likely town.

So, why did you vote me?

You don’t mention me at all in this post, then just put a naked vote on me?

So let me get this straight. We both are currently townleaning RC and that in your mind, makes me scum because?

[Nimueh]

Skygazer finding you as town from that interaction seems kind of unjustified and trying too hard to "get something done" quickly. RadiantCowbells's attitude towards his vote feels to me like town more working off of a feeling and being relaxed about it, which feels more genuine.

I like this post. Reads like a townie opening.

why does this read like a townie opening to you? I feel like this opening is kind of an easy analysis to make to have some sort of contribution early on, it's not like strongly town or strongly scum. but her later posts are kind of unimpressive and she just seems to be jumping around w her votes at this point w/o trying to put them to good use imo

I'm not why you're asking why I have apthet as scum when just before that you asked me that you have her near the bottom of ur list just above GL who's literally made one post.

My TOM vote was a page 2 vote, not really any rhyme or reason other than to throw out a naked vote and see what happens, but I didn't really see their entrance as town or scum tbh

sorry, don't have time to dig up all the relevant quotes for ur questions but i think i got them all

That was my initial response. Are you reading my posts in chronological order? Because if you are, you would notice that I changed my opinion to a nullread but her throwing down a naked vote on me is scummy.

[Nimueh]

It actually upsets me. It kills my motivation to play the game. It makes me not want to play mafia anymore. It makes me want to hide on secret alts. Etc.

And this isn't the first time you've heard this complaint from me. I believe I've made it at least half a dozen times.

My take is that you need to base your read on what makes the most sense. Your posting here reads townie and as long as I think that, I’m never voting you. If SS is paranoid of your slot, it’s probably not very helpful on D1.

[Nimueh]

actually

I like this post. Reads like a townie opening.

Nimueh
RC
Oka
Sky
Single
Apthet
Lion

Why do you think ap is scum here?

Am I missing something?

how does this progression happen when ur own PoE would lead to apthet being in ur scum pool? it just feels like shallow questioning trying to make a good entrance

VOTE: Nimueh

You’re misconstruing my readslist. It was an order of whom att I found townie to least townie. So, I don’t see any contradiction. I wasn’t scumreading her att.

[Nimueh]

I feel like my votes have been put to use! Maybe not good use, but at least okay use.

Still no reason for your vote on me? How does this constitute “good use” exactly?

VOTE: apthet

[Nimueh]

How do you guys have somewhat fleshed out readslist already

Well, you’re the only slot I’m townreading who’s currently voting me.

It’s just tentative, helps me to organize my reads. I can see how Sky might get confused by my question wrt my readslist but I don’t understand why she thinks I’m scum because of it.

[Nimueh]

Anyone know if guiltylion or enigma have alignment preference?

I have never played with either.

[Nimueh]

Still no reason for your vote on me? How does this constitute “good use” exactly?

VOTE: apthet

Considering how agitated you are about it, it seems to be doing something.

No, I think you’re scum pushing my mislynch, because you have yet to give a single reason for your vote.

[Nimueh]

210 is a good post and the first of sky's that I townread

VOTE: Nimueh

[Nimueh]

I’m town you reading comprehension challenged Woats. God!. Get your votes off of me, if you don’t want to mislynch.

[Nimueh]

You don’t mention me at all in this post, then just put a naked vote on me?

why would this be scummy?

It’s not town to mislynch without a single reason. You putting me at L-2 like this is opportunistic af.

Do I have to claim or will some of you, Oka and maybe Sky? come to their senses?

[Nimueh]

@SS, @RC, Oka, please avenge my mislynch by powerlynching apthet/Lion after my flip

. Thanks.

[Nimueh]

Isn’t anyone remotely suspicious about my wagon getting to L-2 for ptetty much no reason?

Apthet/Lion are the scumteam

Bookmark it, I at least want bragging rights in dead thread.

[Nimueh]

u arent going to be lynched yet calm down

game hasnt even fully started

waiting on enigma to get in the action before the party starts

Pleqse take your vote off of me then. I’m at L-2 with both scum on my wagon.

[Nimueh]

i think its hard to make a judgement call on what is scummy and what isnt until later in the day where i can get a bigger picture

which is why priority rn should be to generate content

VOTE: apthet

Oh sorry, I missed that, so only at L-3. apthet is definitely scum here. She hasn’t yet given a single reason for voting me and Lion is probably her partner for that opportunistic vote. Only one who gave a believable reason for it, was Sky.

[Nimueh]

VOTE: nimueh


@singletonking, why is that vote obligatory?

i think its hard to make a judgement call on what is scummy and what isnt until later in the day where i can get a bigger picture

which is why priority rn should be to generate content

VOTE: apthet

anyways

tbh didnt know u were at l2

I didn’t know you took your vote off of me.

[Nimueh]

isnt sky voting u tho

making that l2

because sky + guilty + apthet = 3

Don’t you need 6 votes to lynch?

[Nimueh]

Votecount 1.0

Target	Wagon
Not Voting (9)	Nimueh, apthet, GuiltyLion, singletonking, Skygazer, RadiantCowbells, OkaPoka, Enigma, ThatOneMedic

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-16 11:52:59).

Oh my God, you’re right and apthet scumreads me for being “agitated”.

But with both scum voting you, you only need 3 bad town to hammer.

So, it probably is apthet/Lion then, because his having 0 concerns about my wagon blowing up with no obvious scum fighting it, ought to have rung a loud clanging bell for him, if he were town here but instead he opportunistically puts me at L-2. Town would be a lot more cautious, especially considering that I’ve been pretty obvtown here.

[Nimueh]

5/9 to lynch (majority)

unless your loved like apthet

She clzimed loved?

[Nimueh]

also dont know how wise it is to call scumteams before one player has even the chance to post anything meaningful

sleeping soon

hf enigma

Well, I’m going by their actions and since apthet is the counterwagon to me, Lion could also be her partner trying to save her.

[Nimueh]

VOTE: Skygazer

And given this naked RVS vote, it shows signs of GL being uncomfortable to participate in RVS, so I now like my vote.

???

you have too much experience with me to be seriously thinking this

I naked vote in RVS as town all the time

What?

I don't recall you making naked RVS votes as town

Single apparently has meta on Lion.

apthet/Lion look like the scummiest players in the game rn. I did a metacheck on apthet - what extremely little there was - and in the one towngame I found, she was primarily focused on getting townreads rather than pushing mislynches.

[Nimueh]

You don’t mention me at all in this post, then just put a naked vote on me?

why would this be scummy?

You seriously don’t think it’s remotely scummy to not give a single reason to vote someone oitside of RVS? That is classic scum. Scum have a hard time making believable reads and if apthet just continues to dodge this by suspiciously only focusing on my reaction to her vote and never having to explain it, makes it really easy for no one to debunk reasons she never gave.

You seriously asking this after you only voted me, for presumably not townreading Sky? Because you like apthet, gave no reason for your votes.

The only person who did, Sky. apthet and you can’t give reasons for voting me, because you obviously don’t have any. I’m less sure about you but if apthet flips red, you have a better than decent chance of being her partner, imo.

[Nimueh]

To be honest, I'm... kind of concerned and very very surprised at how you're reacting to this wagon? I would say that three votes is really not a huge deal and you're getting extremely aggressive about it and also making posts that are rather inattentive (asking people who aren't voting you to take their vote off you, not knowing my role, generally misinterpreting the events of the game).

I have no idea how to interpret that and I think that looking at any past games you've played would help me figure it out, which I definitely plan on doing. If I had to guess, you telling everyone repeatedly that you're town and generally wildly accusing people of things seems... genuinely town?

Not a huge deal? Do you understand it takes only 5 votes to lynch and if you’re not scum here, why aren’t you worried about scum possibly hammering me?

I don’t have many games, so you should have 0 problems ISOing me.

You still haven’t given a single reason for even voting me in the first place

.

[Nimueh]

5/9 to lynch (majority)

unless your loved like apthet

She clzimed loved?

Where did she claim that? I went through her ISO again and couldn’t find any mention of that?

[Nimueh]

With 8 confirmations, Day 1 begins.

apthet
The Newsroom
MafiaScum, .Net - Wednesday April 3, 2019 - 1$ City, 2$ Suburbs
⠀ Welcome to the Newsroom, apthet! You are a News Anchor , aligned with the -redacted- [/center] ABILITIES:
FAME & POPULARITY During the Day, you have your voice and your vote. You are Loved : it will require one more vote to lynch you than default (note that any voting-based abilities are disabled in LyLo). You're quite well recognized. Your role PM and identity will be posted publicly at the start of the game, but any alignment-revealing information will be redacted.
You win when -redacted-
The game thread is here. Please confirm by responding with a short summary of your role.

Spoiler: Mobile Friendly

Welcome to the Newsroom, apthet! You are a

News Anchor

, aligned with the

-redacted-

.

ABILITIES:

Fame & Popularity

• During the Day, you have your voice and your vote.
  
• You are
  Loved
  : it will require one more vote to lynch you than default (note that any voting-based abilities are disabled in LyLo).
  
• You're quite well recognized. Your role PM and identity will be posted publicly at the start of the game, but any alignment-revealing information will be redacted.

You win when

-redacted-

The game thread is here. Please confirm by responding with a short summary of your role.

@mod, is this in actuality apthet’s role pm here? Is she IC?

*confused*

[Nimueh]

apthet is publicly loved as shown in post 3

Nimueh are you scumreading apthet and GuiltyLion solely for scumreading you?

She didn’t give any reasons, nor did Lion, so no.

But now, i’m seriously confused wtf is going on with that nsg #3 post. I read it but didn’t notce apthet’s name on it. I don’t know what that means.

[Nimueh]

Or rather, scumreading you without reason.

I disagree that it's scummy as town very often vote without reason. I don't find it likely that both scum are voting for you right now.

What do you think nsg posting that role pm with her name on it means?

If not apthet than Lion. Everyone else is townier.

[Nimueh]

Is loved usually a town or scum modifier, or would that be completely irrelevant here?

[Nimueh]

Or rather, scumreading you without reason.

I disagree that it's scummy as town very often vote without reason. I don't find it likely that both scum are voting for you right now.

What do you think nsg posting that role pm with her name on it means?

If not apthet than Lion. Everyone else is townier.

How? By everyone else not scumreading you?

I’m not sure, why you keep pushing this narrative? I’ve alreay made it very clear, exactly why.

[Nimueh]

Is loved usually a town or scum modifier, or would that be completely irrelevant here?

Not sure, but it's irrelevant here due to the way the setup was created.

Well, i definitely wouldn’t want to vote her if that was possibly town indicative but maybe, her role pm got outed, specifically because she’s “loved”?

[Nimueh]

Or rather, scumreading you without reason.

I disagree that it's scummy as town very often vote without reason. I don't find it likely that both scum are voting for you right now.

What do you think nsg posting that role pm with her name on it means?

If not apthet than Lion. Everyone else is townier.

How? By everyone else not scumreading you?

I’m not sure, why you keep pushing this narrative? I’ve alreay made it very clear, exactly why.

Because it is unusual for you to be scumreading two people voting for you.

And I don't see why you're reading everyone else as town. Why is Enigma town?

I’m not reading everyone else as town. What I said, was that everyone else is townier than those two, that doesn’t imply I’m townreading everyone else. I never said Enigma was town. He’s made one thoroughly null post, not much to go on rn.

[Nimueh]

Also nimueh wagon is bad and you should feel bad

<3

Wait NVM that was an awful post with the *confused*

No, totally typical for me, actually.

Could even be an attempt to fake spew her buddy town

No.

[Nimueh]

Wait NVM that was an awful post with the *confused*

+1

like the post that Nimueh quoted was pretty self-explanatory

I dun wanna Lynch Nimueh D1 or at least this early though

yah at least not this early, but why not d1?
what do you think of her reaction to being on L-2? like its only 3 votes ...

L-2 and “only 3 votes”, do no compute as arational thought. Sorry.

[Nimueh]

ok

i read this game twice now and apart from thinking oka is town i have no reads

:/

someone ask me a question

I dun wanna Lynch Nimueh D1 or at least this early though

yah at least not this early, but why not d1?

what do you think of her reaction to being on L-2? like its only 3 votes ...

Sure Bro.

[Nimueh]

ok i read this game twice now and apart from thinking oka is town i have no reads :/

someone ask me a question

Okay, are you actually town in this game?

[Nimueh]

You’re misconstruing my readslist. It was an order of whom att I found townie to least townie. So, I don’t see any contradiction. I wasn’t scumreading her att.

so u only had at most one person to SR (GL, and that's kind of a stretch), but u still find the need to point out how you don't see why apthet was catching votes? like if apthet was one of the least townie on ur list, wouldn't that mean, by process of elimination, that apthet should have some pressure on them to sort them more?

Yes of course but it was a tentalis, which is why I asked, because I wanted to strengthen my reads.

[Nimueh]

You’re misconstruing my readslist. It was an order of whom att I found townie to least townie. So, I don’t see any contradiction. I wasn’t scumreading her att.

so u only had at most one person to SR (GL, and that's kind of a stretch), but u still find the need to point out how you don't see why apthet was catching votes? like if apthet was one of the least townie on ur list, wouldn't that mean, by process of elimination, that apthet should have some pressure on them to sort them more?

Yes of course but it was a tentalis, which is why I asked, because I wanted to strengthen my reads.

tentative. Autocorrect must be on drugs,

[Nimueh]

nim who's ur main

I would rather not say, unles it’s absolutely necessary.

[Nimueh]

The way apthet voted me, and then immediately reevaluated and pivoted to Nimueh, and then immediately reevaluated again, is something that is vastly more likely to come from town. That would be a weird and very advanced thought process to fake as scum, and it definitely shows that she is genuinely reacting to and analyzing what is happening.

She, like Lion never gave a reason for voting me and hasn’t unvoted, so how is this a “pivot” or “re-evaluation”?

[Nimueh]

does enigma lurk as scum? i have apthet/nimueh/SS below null atm but kinda doubt both scum are in there so

I have meta on SS and I don’t think this is his scumgame.

Having bad reads /= make you scum.

I caught scum!SS right out of the gate, it was that blatantly obvious.

[Nimueh]

Nim how new are you? To mafia and mafiascum.

SS do you have any scumreads?

If I answer that question, I might as well out. Let’s just say, I wouldn’t call myself either experienced or a newb and leave it at that.

I might have to out to stop what I’m pretty sure is a potential mislynch, which I’d really prefer not to. :/

[Nimueh]

I think it is his scumgame.

Why?


viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78060&user_select%5B%5D=27021

Scum!SS


viewtopic.php?f=84&t=78386&user_select%5B%5D=27021

Town!SS

[Nimueh]

You mean on SS or on yourself

Well for anyone I feel reasonably confident is a mislynch. I would definitely not prefer to out to save me if I don’t absolutely have to because I would rather let my play here speak for itself, then needing to rely on meta, in order to knock some sense into certain people.

[Nimueh]

nim talk to me

what makes you think that apthet cant be the type of player who likes to keep her cards to her chest

I don’t know but gun to head, I think Enigma’s response to RC, is the scummiest thing I’ve read in this game so far. For someone who only claims to have one read, to suddenly want to lynch a slot over solely a reaction to vites on them, is seriously sketch.

I still disagree with SS, because if she is re-evaluating, then why is her vote still on me?

I don’t believe SS is scum here, he doesn’t sould shady like he did in Boon game, so definitely don’t want to vote there.

[Nimueh]

I am good at this game generally.

I don’t think SS is scum here. His tone is completely different here than in Boon game where he was obvscum. I’m fairly confident he’s a mislynch.

[Nimueh]

thats not apthet!

nim talk to me

what makes you think that apthet cant be the type of player who likes to keep her cards to her chest

I don’t know but gun to head, I think Enigma’s response to RC, is the scummiest thing I’ve read in this game so far. For someone who only claims to have one read, to suddenly want to lynch a slot over solely a reaction to vites on them, is seriously sketch.

I still disagree with SS, because if she is re-evaluating, then why is her vote still on me?

I don’t believe SS is scum here, he doesn’t sould shady like he did in Boon game, so definitely don’t want to vote there.

I answered your question. I don’t know what kind of player she is but to say you’re re-evaluating your reads but not unvote, isn’t really persuasive to me. I’m not sr her for saying that, just that it doesn’t constitute a clear re-evaluation.

[Nimueh]

nim talk to me

what makes you think that apthet cant be the type of player who likes to keep her cards to her chest

I don’t know but gun to head, I think Enigma’s response to RC, is the scummiest thing I’ve read in this game so far. For someone who only claims to have one read, to suddenly want to lynch a slot over solely a reaction to vites on them, is seriously sketch.

I still disagree with SS, because if she is re-evaluating, then why is her vote still on me?

I don’t believe SS is scum here, he doesn’t sould shady like he did in Boon game, so definitely don’t want to vote there.

thats not how im reading his post

he's asking a question of whats wrong with having u lynched today

not

lets party down and get you lynched today (enigma)

So, you think I’m misreading his post? He said that previously, you were his only read, so maybe. Eh.


So, who do you think is scum here then? Lion?

[Nimueh]

For the record, my response to RC there is because I'm extremely easy to read for someone who knows me well enough (and RC does).

Now knowing that RadiantCowbells scumreads you, do you have anything to say revisiting this?

And UNVOTE: Nimueh

VOTE: Something Smart

Oh but it’s still a bad vote, because SS is still one of my strongest townreads. He is extremely genuine here. Read that ISO I linked to his recent scumgame. He was blatantly scummy in that game. He is not scum here.

[Nimueh]

yes you are misreading his post

like 90%

im still poking around on who is scum

but srsly, are you trinityNZ

I have no idea who that is.

If you correctly out me,

specifically

by name, I WILL deny it but if you correctly HINT at it, without literally naming me, I will confirm it.

[Nimueh]

You are voting apthet

And s_s thinks apthet is obvtown

What's with that

Just because I strongly townread SS, doesn’t mean I necessarily agree with his reads.

I know I don’t want to rush this lynch, no matter who is the lead wagon.

[Nimueh]

Labyrinth

[Nimueh]

SS is obvtown here, get your votes off of him.

[Nimueh]

That does not mean I'm townreading her ftr

You should be, since 1’m 100% town here.

[Nimueh]

how tf is apthet even remotely close to obvtown

VOTE: SS

fair enough

@Sky, please explain how apthet is your #1 scumread but you first vote me and then SS?

[Nimueh]

SS is obvtown here, get your votes off of him.

No.

Did you click my link to his scumgame?

[Nimueh]

@RC, other than him thinking apthet is obvtown and being paranoid of you - which you know is entirely NIA for him - any other reason, you scumread him?

Do you really think that if he and apthet were s/s, he would be hard defending her like that?

[Nimueh]

nim

if you dont trust your obv town's reads

why should we trust your read on s_s

I don’t see the correlation.

I trust he is town here /= I trust his reads.

Iow, you can think someone is town and not agree with their reads.

Am I extremely confident apthet is flipping scum? No but rn, she is still is my strongest scumread.

I have noticed that she initially voted me when I initially townread her and now she’s boting SS, who is currently townreading her. I don’t know if I should read anything into that or not but nothing has persuded me to change my read on SS. I don’t understand why others are voting him either. In Boon game, he was doing all of this extremely sketchy shit like blatant rolefishing and here, he has done nothing even remotely scummy.

If he flips green, which I think he will, I will be extremely upset about his mislynch.

[Nimueh]

how tf is apthet even remotely close to obvtown

VOTE: SS

fair enough

@Sky, please explain how apthet is your #1 scumread but you first vote me and then SS?

like apthet was my #1 yesterday but im kinda torn between u three atm

im fine w voting whoever is in my scumpool especially early game where it can put pressure on ppl i wanna see pressure put on

I shouldn’t even be in your scumpool and SS is town. I dunno about apthet. I know she changed her read on me but her voting one of my strongest townreads, doesn’t help me townread her.

I find it kind of depressing that the two lead wagons have been me and one of my strongest townreads in this game.

[Nimueh]

If you're wrong on SS will you sheep me the rest of the game

What if I’m right on SS, does the converse also hold true?

[Nimueh]

Say Something Smart is mafia and RadiantCowbells is town, does Smart draw attention to Radiant's ability to read him correctly early on in the game like he did here? That's the one thing that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Well, that’s what I’m saying. His ISO here is obvtown.

So, who else do you scumread?

Anyone who is seriously doubting my read on SS, tell me how he wasn’t flaming scum in Boon game? Like it was freaking obvious.

[Nimueh]

@apthet, what is your opinion of Sky’s POE?

[Nimueh]

Stop bullying me nimueh

How am I bullying you?

[Nimueh]

Why are you being so mean to me

I don’t understand. How am I being mean to you?

[Nimueh]

What did I ever do to you?

I don’t understand. You know I <3 you. *confused*

[Nimueh]

You better be town or I'll be absolutely pissed

I am.

[Nimueh]

I still don’t understand why you’re so upset with me. @RC

[Nimueh]

Ok but I still think SS is scum what do

Well, that Boon game is very recent, so do you think his scumgame could have improved that much? Because he is tonally completely different here. Something was clearly off about him from his first few posts in that game and I hated his reasoning for absolutely everything. OTOH, he reads extremely genuine here and none of his posts have pinged me.

[Nimueh]

I'm trying to emotionally manipulate you through feigned being upset with you to make you more compliant to my requests for an SS lynch.

Well, I really appreciate your honesty.

But that won’t work on me, since I strongly townread him.

SS, you and Oka are still my strongest townreads in this game and nothing has changed that.

[Nimueh]

I think he had a far worse game that game than his usual as scum

Oh? Can you link me to a scumgame where he played better?, because that is the only one I’m familiar with.

[Nimueh]

I guess I'll have to emotionally manipulate you another way. Hmm.

Hey cutie. How you doing?

RC, you will have to show me a scumgame where he’s playing similarly to this one.
You can’t emotionally manipulate me out of my reads.

[Nimueh]

I mean I couuuld. Would you want me to?

Why wouldn’t I want you to link me to a scumgame, where you think he played similarily to this one? Why the winky face?

[Nimueh]

But can I emotionally manipulate you into voting how I want irregardless of your reads because that's Good Enough?

Not when you’re trying to get me to vote one of my strongest townreads. Do you think scum!SS is really capable of faking the sincerity I’ve been reading in his posts?

[Nimueh]

I shall engage you through reasoning as opposed to emotional manipulation

+1

That’s generally what works on me.

[Nimueh]

For the record I was trying to sort you with this engagement not convince you on SS.

Alright.

What are your other reads?

I currently feel best about you, SS, Oka and maybe Single.

I wish I had a scumgame of apthet’s to look at.

[Nimueh]

the phrase "i shouldnt even be in your scum pool" is like hilarious to me rn and makes me think town

Not sure why you think that’s “hillarious” but this nevertheless reads like a townie post to me.

[Nimueh]

Btw I am townreading Singleton for reasons so
To me were really down to

SS

Guiltylion

Skygazer

Enigma

nd I think I can remove

You’d better.

I’m thinking Lion/Enigma maybe? I’m still tr SS and that post of Sky’s I just quoted makes me think they’re town. It’s just too carefree and breezy to be scum. Casual posts like that more often than not, tend to come from town.

[Nimueh]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Lion

Don’t have meta on him but his tone seems off somehow. Is that typical for him?

[Nimueh]

Busy day today, I will be back tomorrow

I kinda guessed Nimueh was an alt, I just didn't want to ask them directly. Has anyone found out their identity?

I'm not really scumreading GL right now, I just don't have a better place for my vote.

Yes RC, now it’s bad form to out alts and if anyone mentions my other account by name, I will vehemently deny it. I’ve already stated, I will ONLY confirm HINTS.

Yeah, no one is objectively scummy, so you have to go with who is the least townie.

[Nimueh]

Apthet obviously, Nimueh and you to a lesser extent, although I don't have any idea what your scumgame is like (I think I know Nimueh is and if I'm right that will bolster the townread)

Well if you’re right, that strengthens my already strong townread on you, since you did not townread me when I was scum. If you’ve figured it out now, shush.

[Nimueh]

wanna wagon enigma

Why enigma over Lion?

I’m good with either.

[Nimueh]

): apthet you seem cool im sorry if i've been unpleasant at all

You seem cool too! I tried not to come off as complaining about anyone putting pressure on me, which is why I struggled with the wording originally. You've been perfectly pleasant and my emotions didn't have anything to do with anyone voting me or accusing me of any such things.

Open question to all the very experienced people and the people thinking of some combination of singleton/Enigma/GuiltyLion as a possible scumteam: have you played in games before where both members of the mafia were lower-content posters? What were those games like and how did the scumteam work towards their win condition?

Well, unless I’m wrongly townreading someone, those 3 are my weakest reads. SK is the strongest out of the three.

[Nimueh]

nimueh any comment on this?

im still trying to figure out why you are overreacting on votes on you
1. you're not a newb, so im surprised at your confusion to the loved role pm
2. your indigence at being on l2 isnt being matched by following up with those voting on you (you did question their votes a bit, but imo a town train of thought would be wondering which scum are voting you if you were truely concerned about mislynched)

What does not being a newb have jack to do with it? Have you ever seen a sample role pm that wasn’t an IC with a player’s name in it? Well I haven’t.

I was scumreading two of those voting me att, now I’m obviously only suspicious of one.

Where did you come up with the idea that I wasn’t wondering which scum were voting me? Have you even been reading my posts?

[Nimueh]

nvm i just read your iso and

i obviously didnt know how to read before

sorry

You’ve had an account here since 2010 and you didn’t know how to ISO players?

[Nimueh]

nvm i just read your iso and

i obviously didnt know how to read before

sorry

You’ve had an account here since 2010 and you didn’t know how to ISO players?

Wow you’re not very good with sarcasm
If you want I can spell it out
1. Yes I can iso
2. I’m making a sarcastic statement about me being bad at reading and missing your posts about scum reading lion and apnet

I wasn’t trying to be sarcastic.

[Nimueh]

Enigma’s posting is seriously pinging me. I don’t even understand wtf he’s trying to do here, it’s just feels really weird to me. Maybe Sky is onto something?

[Nimueh]

So

SS stk gl shitlist

Sky slightly better

What about Enigma? How is he town, because I totally don’t see it. Those last two posts he made were kind of icky.

[Nimueh]

550 looks good

RC I appreciate this thing you've been doing recently where you break down these thoughts into a case, just wanted to say
I think you used to do that in 2015/2016 era but felt like I hadn't seen it from you in a while but this + that other newbie game is stuff that really resonates with me

VOTE: Something_Smart

I'll ISO everyone else and do more stuff tomorrow

GL would you want to see a point-by-point refutation of the case? Would you actually read it?

No I'm not interested in self defense

Town is supposed to find scum, not argue that you're not scum

What do you think of RC's push on you, or Nimueh calling you obvtown

Can we lynch Lion today, pretty please?

[Nimueh]

Votecount 1.7

Target	Wagon
Something_Smart (2)	RadiantCowbells (311), Skygazer (323)
GuiltyLion (2)	singletonking (5), Nimueh (450)
apthet (1)	OkaPoka (85)
Nimueh (1)	GuiltyLion (234)
Not Voting (3)	Enigma, Something_Smart (186), apthet (443)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-16 11:52:59).

Searching for a replacement for GuiltyLion.

550 looks good

RC I appreciate this thing you've been doing recently where you break down these thoughts into a case, just wanted to say
I think you used to do that in 2015/2016 era but felt like I hadn't seen it from you in a while but this + that other newbie game is stuff that really resonates with me

VOTE: Something_Smart

I'll ISO everyone else and do more stuff tomorrow

[Nimueh]

Votecount 1.7

Target	Wagon
Something_Smart (2)	RadiantCowbells (311), Skygazer (323)
GuiltyLion (2)	singletonking (5), Nimueh (450)
apthet (1)	OkaPoka (85)
Nimueh (1)	GuiltyLion (234)
Not Voting (3)	Enigma, Something_Smart (186), apthet (443)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-16 11:52:59).

Searching for a replacement for GuiltyLion.

550 looks good

RC I appreciate this thing you've been doing recently where you break down these thoughts into a case, just wanted to say
I think you used to do that in 2015/2016 era but felt like I hadn't seen it from you in a while but this + that other newbie game is stuff that really resonates with me

VOTE: Something_Smart

I'll ISO everyone else and do more stuff tomorrow

He ALREADY replaced out but yeah, will somehow ISO people and “do stuff”

tomorrow

.

[Nimueh]

Still don't see any town in GL but I'm holding off on that read for now

In what world is it town, to knowingly make false promises of reading ISOs and you know, “doing stuff”, AFTER you’ve already freaking replaced out.



How is that not a scumclaim?

[Nimueh]

Also, post #568 vomit-inducing RC pocket. Like “hey RC, On behalf of us townies, I want to award you for your good citizenship and valiant efforts to keep our great community safe from those evil scumsters”.



*hurl*

[Nimueh]

Votecount 1.6

Target	Wagon
Something_Smart (2)	RadiantCowbells (311), Skygazer (323)
GuiltyLion (2)	singletonking (5), Nimueh (450)
apthet (1)	OkaPoka (85)
Nimueh (1)	GuiltyLion (234)
Not Voting (3)	Enigma, Something_Smart (186), apthet (443)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-16 11:52:59).

Prodding GuiltyLion.

Votecount 1.7

Target	Wagon
Something_Smart (2)	RadiantCowbells (311), Skygazer (323)
GuiltyLion (2)	singletonking (5), Nimueh (450)
apthet (1)	OkaPoka (85)
Nimueh (1)	GuiltyLion (234)
Not Voting (3)	Enigma, Something_Smart (186), apthet (443)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-16 11:52:59).

Searching for a replacement for GuiltyLion.

[Nimueh]

Did he request replacement or was he replaced for not picking up his prod?

Why would he not pick up his prod?

[Nimueh]

Presumably he didn't... she posted she was prodding him, he didn't post for 26 hours, and then she posted saying he was being replaced.

April 9 -

Micro 864: The Newsroom

Moderator:

northsidegal

Status:

Day 1, 23 pages

Replacing:

GuiltyLion

Player returned

Okay, nm about that. I still think those two posts I quoted from him are icky.

[Nimueh]

The neighborhood's pretty dead btw, and my opinion that RC is a dangerous scum player who should not be easily townread goes back years.

This is definitely not what I expect from a neighbourhood with RC in it

Can you check with the mod if you're allowed to say how many pages the neighbourhood has, and if you are, what is it?

What would you expect a neighbourhood with RC to be like?

I think this is obtown RC. In that game he got nommed for a DC award. he was kind of bullying slots. I don’t see that at all here.

[Nimueh]

Wow kind of bullying slots

That’s how your play in that game read to me, sorry.

[Nimueh]

Ok... thanks?

It’s a bit of a tone thing? Nothing you’ve done in this game strikes me as agenda driven.

[Nimueh]

yikes

Why?

[Nimueh]

yikes

Why?

Are you disputing that your play in that game was agenda driven? I think that was fairly obvious.

[Nimueh]

yikes

Why?

Are you disputing that your play in that game was agenda driven? I think that was fairly obvious.

I can give you quotes?

[Nimueh]

bullying all the players is obviously =\= agenda driven

meme men if you force me to effort this game you're dying tomorrow regardless of your alignment.

This is kind of what I’m referring to.

[Nimueh]

bullying all the players is obviously =\= agenda driven

meme men if you force me to effort this game you're dying tomorrow regardless of your alignment.

This is kind of what I’m referring to.

I haven’t seen you do anything like that here. I would consider that to be a scummy post.

[Nimueh]

Nimueh are you still scumreading Apthet? I kinda think she's still scum but maybe I'm wrong on that

I don’t know. Here are my current reads:

Nim
RC

Oka
Sky
SS

Single /Apthet

Enigma
Lion

[Nimueh]

If I wasn't a guaranteed nightkill mafia would be easier

We need one of these:

[Nimueh]

Did he request replacement or was he replaced for not picking up his prod?

Why would he not pick up his prod?

if you are scum and you are pushing this then fuck you, seriously

I have a life outside of this site. I had to deal with a lot of shit last weekend. You can look at my post history I didn't post once all weekend, this is not the only game I am in

to imply that me not picking up a prod is alignment indicative is really fucking low. as policy I don't scumread people when they claim other things keeping them away from the thread, and in return I expect the same.

I’m not and swearing at me, doesn’t get you townread.

What part of I clearly made a mistake did you not read?

I obviously didn’t realize that you actually hadn’t replaced out at the time, I made that post.

[Nimueh]

UNVOTE:

Meh

[Nimueh]

You literally asked her for comments one minute after her first post...

This post read to me like someone who is trying to play the part of a rational person.

honestly i want someone to post who i can townread.

Definitely reading into this a bit more than I maybe should, but I thought that responding to this was you sort of subconsciously showing discomfort.

You really shouldn't be townreading him at all unless you have extensive experience with him.

I felt like this was you trying to discredit a potentially strong town player early on, to establish breathing room.

I can see how this is a part of your playstyle, but more importantly, your immediate response about it being a playstyle definitely makes me think that you're exasperated town who gets this a lot!

VOTE: Nimueh

@SS, why is apthet your #1 townread?

Why is apthet shading you here and voting me?

[Nimueh]

id prefer if everyone's next post that hasnt done so yet be a readslist

My reads are exactly the same as GuiltyLion, except I am also not townreading GuiltyLion.

I tend to townread players I mindmeld with, interesting.

[Nimueh]

You literally asked her for comments one minute after her first post...

This post read to me like someone who is trying to play the part of a rational person.

honestly i want someone to post who i can townread.

Definitely reading into this a bit more than I maybe should, but I thought that responding to this was you sort of subconsciously showing discomfort.

You really shouldn't be townreading him at all unless you have extensive experience with him.

I felt like this was you trying to discredit a potentially strong town player early on, to establish breathing room.

I can see how this is a part of your playstyle, but more importantly, your immediate response about it being a playstyle definitely makes me think that you're exasperated town who gets this a lot!

VOTE: Nimueh

@SS, why is apthet your #1 townread?

Why is apthet shading you here and voting me?

Actually, I should probably be asking apthet that.

3 quotes from SS, that ping you but you vote me here? That seems really strange to me.

[Nimueh]

the phrase "i shouldnt even be in your scum pool" is like hilarious to me rn and makes me think town

Not sure why you think that’s “hillarious” but this nevertheless reads like a townie post to me.

it's just so blunt that it was funny to me at 3am
the bluntness is also why it made me think town

like i dont see him being above rc at all and i dont see him being above gl either tbh after gl's recent postings

Feel pretty confident on Sky town.

[Nimueh]

Ok I think nimueh is scum

VOTE: nimueh

Why

To me she feels like newb scum but she isn't new so I'm lost

How am I ever scum here? I’m neither a newb nor scum. *smacks RC*. I’m not a amused.

[Nimueh]

Because I'm cute.

There’s nothing cute about you not reading me correctly.

[Nimueh]

I don't believe your townread on me. It feels like you're trying to pocket me.

Believe whatever you damn well like then. I think it should be blatantly obvious to you that I’m town by now. *smacks RC harder*

[Nimueh]

If history has taught me anything it's that when people give me easy townreads that they're scum. I always want to townread these people. they're always scum.

Well, history hasn’t taught you jack then because you’re dead wrong when it comes to me. It’s extremely frustrating that you of all people can’t read me accurately. :/

[Nimueh]

what does scum nim look like?

I have yet to roll scum under this account.

[Nimueh]

aaaaaaaaaa

I feel bad about voting you

I hope it's because you're actually town.

VOTE: Apthet

I am town. I don’t even understand why anyone has been scumreading me this entire game.

Can you explain your apthet vote? I don’t know how to parse her.

[Nimueh]

i guess it's apthet/enigma for me at this point then.

I have not been impressed with Enigma but some people have been townreading him. I have no idea why.

[Nimueh]

what does scum main acct look like

Nothing like this!

[Nimueh]

s_s what does your scum meta look like?

Some combination of flying under the radar and stating and pushing reads in a horribly robotic manner.

When did you do either in Last Night Tomorrow?

[Nimueh]

whats stopping you from playing like this as scum if you are this self - aware

What’s stopping me is I’m obviously NOT scum. Is there some point to these questions?

[Nimueh]

nim pls answer

whats stopping you

from playing like this

as scum

if you are self aware of your town play

I don’t understand what you want me to say here? I can’t play like this as scum, because I’m not scum in THIS game, obviously.

[Nimueh]

When did you do either in Last Night Tomorrow?

I flew under the radar that whole game (or as long as I could anyway )

No you really didn’t, not with all of that blatant role-fishing you did and I don’t recall you giving any robotic reads?

[Nimueh]

saying "im obv town" is not useful

i say it to be a meme

but im starting to feel like this is ur actual town!case on yourself

I don’t understand the point of your questions. I can’t play like this as scum, when I’m NOT scum.

[Nimueh]

nim pls answer

whats stopping you

from playing like this

as scum

if you are self aware of your town play

I don’t understand what you want me to say here? I can’t play like this as scum, because I’m not scum in THIS game, obviously.

i want you to explain your thought process when playing scum. is it not imitating town meta? are you incapable of imitating your town meta? whats up

You want me to talk about my scum meta? Why? and how is this even relevant to anything happening in this game? I’m not scum here. How many goddamn times to I need to keep repeating that?

[Nimueh]

right now i think that

rc is town
nimueh is probtown
gl is probtown
ss is probtown

okapoka is whatever refraining from judgement
skygazer whatever refraining from judgement

and all 3 of enigma/apthet/singletonking are scummy but it's hard to pinpoint which is the worst

If you can case each of them, maybe I can help you with that?

[Nimueh]

VOTE: enigma

is it possible its enigma/stk and they're both whining in thread about being unable to get into the game because they're scum

I know he misrepped me and when I confronted him about it, he gave me some sarcastic response about not being able to read my posts. It was weird.

[Nimueh]

its relevant because talks like these are how i sort people

But I don’t know how to answer that, since once again I’m not scum here, so I obviously don’t have a scum mindset.

[Nimueh]

i'm not allowed to case

i'm only allowed to demand that you vote with me

You don’t need to “demand”, no need to be theatrical here. I’m fine with voting there.

VOTE: Enigma

[Nimueh]

VOTE: enigma

is it possible its enigma/stk and they're both whining in thread about being unable to get into the game because they're scum

I know he misrepped me and when I confronted him about it, he gave me some sarcastic response about not being able to read my posts. It was weird.

wat

post links pls

pedit:

is it really hard to think like a scum
like cmon
you've probs played enough scum games to get the general gist of how you want to play a scum game

I’m not thinking like scum HERE.

[Nimueh]

would you prefer "gently sweet talk you into voting with me"

I’d prefer you do what most people do and

urge

or

persuade

me to vote with you. You have no right to “demand” I vote with you, If I was tr him, I obviously wouldn’t no matter how much you wanted me to.

[Nimueh]

nimueh any comment on this?

im still trying to figure out why you are overreacting on votes on you
1. you're not a newb, so im surprised at your confusion to the loved role pm
2. your indigence at being on l2 isnt being matched by following up with those voting on you (you did question their votes a bit, but imo a town train of thought would be wondering which scum are voting you if you were truely concerned about mislynched)

What does not being a newb have jack to do with it? Have you ever seen a sample role pm that wasn’t an IC with a player’s name in it? Well I haven’t.

I was scumreading two of those voting me att, now I’m obviously only suspicious of one.

Where did you come up with the idea that I wasn’t wondering which scum were voting me? Have you even been reading my posts?

nvm i just read your iso and i obviously didnt know how to read before sorry

nvm i just read your iso and

i obviously didnt know how to read before

sorry

You’ve had an account here since 2010 and you didn’t know how to ISO players?

nvm i just read your iso and

i obviously didnt know how to read before

sorry

You’ve had an account here since 2010 and you didn’t know how to ISO players?

Wow you’re not very good with sarcasm
If you want I can spell it out
1. Yes I can iso
2. I’m making a sarcastic statement about me being bad at reading and missing your posts about scum reading lion and apnet

@Oka

[Nimueh]

nim why are you voting enigma

You think he’s town? Who do you think I should vote for then?

He’s in my POE. Convince me he’s town and I’ll unvote.

[Nimueh]

yeah i saw those posts

he apologized for it

whats weird about making a mistake

So you believe that it really was a mistake?

[Nimueh]

yeah i saw those posts

he apologized for it

whats weird about making a mistake

So you believe that it really was a mistake?

Did you miss where, he kept insisting that it was sarcasm on his part? How do you possibly read that as an apology?

[Nimueh]

no ur not aloud to unvote

RC, please stop talking to me like that. I’m “allowed” to do whatever I damn well want. I’m voting with you because I’m not townreading him for all the reasons I’ve already said but I always open to new information, to help me either re-evaluate or strengthen my read.

[Nimueh]

the sarcasm is pretty clearly a self deprecating joke

thats his apology

let me give you a shitty parallel

enigma: haha ur an idiot, the answer is 3
nim: no its actually 4
enigma: oh wait im an idiot the answer is 4

you see, in this example enigma is making a self deprecating joke on his own capabilities as a human being as an alternative, more humorous way to apologize for his mistake.

Tell me why he’s town and who do you think I should be voting for if not Enigma?

[Nimueh]

nim

are you a satire account

Why would you think that?

[Nimueh]

oh my god nim

I'm just being silly, don't worry about it

It’s sometimes hard to tell with you.

[Nimueh]

im clueless

im just wondering if you have any other reason to be voting enigma

pedit: because people are being memes and u keep taking them literally

No one is being blatantly scummy, so I’m basing it on who’s the least townie.

I don’t want to vote RC, Sky, you, or SS.

Not keen on Single or apthet, so who does that leave?

Lion and Enigma.

[Nimueh]

No you really didn’t, not with all of that blatant role-fishing you did and I don’t recall you giving any robotic reads?

Jesus freaking christ even after the game people STILL think I was rolefishing?

I was just playing mechanically around profii's claim like I would as town. There was absolutely no scum motivation behind asking for those roles, other than in trying to act like I would as town.

(And yes I flew under the radar for 95% of the time I was alive, the fact that you remember a single thing that I did on D1 is pretty good evidence of this.)

I don’t really want to derail the thread with this but something about slots outing to get gifts with coplike ability modifiers. You kept pushing an antitown agenda with that, so I really hope you seriously didn’t consider that pro-town?

[Nimueh]

I think Lion's town btw

So, you think his partner is either apthet or Single?

[Nimueh]

Hm. I think those were probably the answers that make the most sense.

I think Nimueh is town, I don't think scum play like that.

@Nimueh are you OH?

Who is OH?

Anyway, I can keep requoting this but if you do happen to guess it correctly, I will deny it. I’ve like said this 3 times already. I will not confirm names only hints. If I wanted to out my other account, I would have already. In Topaz, people respected that. Why won’t they in this game? :/

[Nimueh]

Hm. I think those were probably the answers that make the most sense.

I think Nimueh is town, I don't think scum play like that.

@Nimueh are you OH?

Who is OH?

Anyway, I can keep requoting this but if you do happen to guess it correctly, I will deny it. I’ve like said this 3 times already. I will not confirm names only hints. If I wanted to out my other account, I would have already. In Topaz, people respected that. Why won’t they in this game? :/

Dunno how 788 got in there, I checked it after RC mentioned it. I’m not convinced apthet is town, so another slot I could potentially sheep RC on.

[Nimueh]

SS have you done anything other than townread Apthet?

I mean, I've done a lot that didn't directly result in a read...

(I also townread Nimueh btw, but who's counting?)

Yeah however he feels about your apthet read, that shade is clearly unwarranted.

[Nimueh]

SS, RC, Sky are my top townreads rn.

[Nimueh]

i don't understand ppls sky townreads

All of her posts seem natural and casual and she is being engaging and interactive with the other players. Also, her initial vote on me - while I obviously disagreed with her reasoning - was believable and seemed to come from a townie mindset.

[Nimueh]

ehh i dont what i had that let me try just being original

town
oka
rc
gl
nimueh = ss = apthnet
stk
sky
scum

i don't even like my sky read that much, but mainly because it seems like she is just around and posting but not really getting anywhere.

Bad readlist btw. How is Sky scum here?

[Nimueh]

i don't understand ppls sky townreads

All of her posts seem natural and casual and she is being engaging and interactive with the other players. Also, her initial vote on me - while I obviously disagreed with her reasoning - was believable and seemed to come from a townie mindset.

Like this is the reason why i cant read sky as town. because iirc town!sky is a bit more persistent in moving the gamestate forward and bit more confrontational. here shes just too casual and just existing

Have you ISO’d her in Labrynth? She is doing way more in this game, so not a good reason to scumread her.

[Nimueh]

Sorry, not Labrynth

RC uPick game where she was an aesthetic on a plane or some weird role like it.

[Nimueh]

Bad readlist btw. How is Sky scum here?

no but ive played with town!sky in other games
its my readlist not yours, so shoo

Disagree but eh

UNVOTE:

[Nimueh]

Everyone's busy on a Friday?

Not sure what to add here. Kinda townreading Nimueh through tone, but I think I figured out who her main is, and if I'm right, doesn't she obvtown more easily than this?

What?

[Nimueh]

I think apthet may be town.

Gun to head, Single’s reads seem kind of hedgey to me.

[Nimueh]

but i want to lynch apthet

Why is she scum though?

That last post seemed really townie to me.

[Nimueh]

hardclaim macho (why am I macho on a useless role nsg?) after we NL please nightkill me out of this game ty

[Nimueh]

VOTE: nim

Party time

Why is it a terrible vote?

Only, if you want to gamethrow.

I can’t even parse your thought process

Could you actually be scum here?

[Nimueh]

No offense rc but you've been indecisive and waiting on things when people were evidently willing to help you push things

You should talk.

[Nimueh]

In fact there isn't even vanity wagons, it's just straight up people not voting.

Also I don't think there are any consensus scum reads singleton

Do you even have a reason for voting me?

[Nimueh]

VOTE: ss

Actually let's just do this

Why do you keep voting town?

[Nimueh]

For what its worth, as long as Nimueh and OkaPoka are town, I really do think there's a very decent shot at solving the game. I really don't think Day 1 is the time to get demotivated! If anything, the slow and unfocused pace of the game currently means there's a lot to work with regardless of who flips.

I am, starting to doubt my initial Oka townread.

[Nimueh]

Easy to call town town when scum?

I wouldn’t know, would you?

[Nimueh]

SS, RC, Sky are my top townreads rn.

Obviously after claim, RC moves to top spot.

[Nimueh]

In fact there isn't even vanity wagons, it's just straight up people not voting.

Also I don't think there are any consensus scum reads singleton

Do you even have a reason for voting me?

Yes, because you spew random comments that were jarring and at first I was being patient but now idc

Like what? And if you knew my main, you’d probably be scumreading me based on playstyle, is what I’m assuming?

[Nimueh]

Easy to call town town when scum?

I wouldn’t know, would you?

Who am I calling town?

If one of us is scum here, it definitely isn’t me.

[Nimueh]

The fact that you can't think like scum for a moment because you aren't scum in this game or so you claim

Or that

you are town because you are town

Like wtf

Ding ding, you get a cookie.

I am not scum in this game.

[Nimueh]

hardclaim macho (why am I macho

on a useless role

nsg?) after we NL please nightkill me out of this game ty

im not actually macho i just said that because i was mad

Even so, the bolded reads townie.

I don’t want to no lynch, so I will sheep you to avoid that. What am I not seeing about apthet?

[Nimueh]

Out of everything Nim could have said

What?

[Nimueh]

wait so you are 100% srs?

like this is very important

i dont want you to take this back

because we may reach game throw territory if you are trolling

VOTE: okapoka

I think him tkaing it seriously is a scumtell

i disagree!

i think its natural to take it seriously with the followup post by skygazer

don't you?

No, I don't think it's natural as town to think that scum are literally outing themselves to kill you

Still not something you take seriously and you took it more seriously at the start than I believe was justified

[Nimueh]

You did the thing where you argue you are town because you are town


Nobody is helped by this

Because I am.

[Nimueh]

Wow great conversation we are having here I am learning a lot by your flawless logic and irresistible charm.

I honestly don’t know what you want from me. I’m not scum here, so I don’t think about how I’d play as scum in this game, Why would I? However, when I do roll scum, I obviously have to think about my towngame. I think the answer is clear. As town I play my towngame, as scum, I try my best to replicate it. I don’t think as town, how to replicate my scumgame.

[Nimueh]

Find the quote where I ask her how she plays scum and she says idk and I ask her if she can replicate her scum game as town and she says she is town

[Nimueh]

Wow great conversation we are having here I am learning a lot by your flawless logic and irresistible charm.

I honestly don’t know what you want from me. I’m not scum here, so I don’t think about how I’d play as scum in this game, Why would I? However, when I do roll scum, I obviously have to think about my towngame. I think the answer is clear. As town I play my towngame, as scum, I try my best to replicate it. I don’t think as town, how to replicate my scumgame.

[Nimueh]

Unrelated but I actually kind of love how the game is like a ghost town during the day and comes to life in the middle of the night (at least in my time zone, anyway).

this

I actually feel like this is the biggest reason for the apathy, we can't get more than like three people online at once because everyone's on at different times

But that’s typical to almost all games, isn’t it?

I think it’s more due to lack of reads consensus than anything else.

[Nimueh]

I feel like one leads to the other, we have no reads consensus because we haven't been able to have back-and-forth interactions and work out the differences in our reads

If people can make half-decent scumcases, that would go a long way.

[Nimueh]

Nim you've dodged the question over and over with nonanswers. It's not beating a dead horse. Especially when you prove you are capable of answering the question.

SS is playing some caricature of himself. This is just straight reactive and townhunting. He is playing so strictly to these guidelines without some inkling of nuance where I doubt it's genuine.

What non-answers? If I didn’t think you were serious, I’d seriously think you were trolling me with this. You ask every single player this question and see if they say anything remotely different.

He isn’t pinging me like he did when he was scum in a recent game with me. I think his tone here is also good, so you need to give me examples because I’m not seeing it.

[Nimueh]

Flavor Unbreakable
The setup was designed to be completely flavour unbreakable with a variant of the System For Flavor Unbreakability:
1. 9 town roles were written.

2. 2 of the roles were randomized to be Mafia.

3. Any necessary tweaks were made to balance the two sides.
4. Mafia were given their original town role PMs as safeclaims.
5. The 9 role PMs were randomly distributed to the 9 players.

[Nimueh]

Votecount 1.11

Target	Wagon
singletonking (1)	GuiltyLion (895)
apthet (1)	Skygazer (931)
GuiltyLion (1)	singletonking (867)
Something_Smart (1)	OkaPoka (934)
apthet (1)	apthet (942)
Not Voting (4)	Enigma, Something_Smart (186), Nimueh (889), RadiantCowbells (985)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-16 11:52:59).

Dafuq @apthet? Why are tf are you voting yourself?

@nsg, why is apthet’s name listed twice?

[Nimueh]

I'll also put my money where my mouth is and
VOTE: Skygazer
But I'm not anywhere close enough to confident enough in my read or as a person in general to "lead a push" so I guess I'm doing the frustrating thing and going off on my own. But I will contribute to whatever needs to happen before deadline.

@mod, VC error, please fix asap, thanks

[Nimueh]

nimueh can i interest u in an,, enigma wagon

Why is enigma scum?

Yeah, SS wagon is bad.

[Nimueh]

apthet voted for me iirc

Yeah, I see. I’m not interested in lynching RC, SS or you but I need to be persuaded by a convincing scumcase but I will sheep the lead wagon rather than no lynch.

I’m trying to decide whether enigma is scum or a mislynch and I have no clue rn. Same for Single, Lion, apthet. Oka, I can’t even begin to parse.

[Nimueh]

sorry ive been really bad at posting - im really struggling to get into this game state somehow. let me try make some lists
because of that, I can kinda feel where SS is coming from and thats a terrible reason but makes me tr him

based on the one scum!rc game i've played with him, i kinda feel he could be town

i wanna read oka as town, but don't trust myself because of his carefree posting

haven't quite figured out the rest yet, wow im bad

Why would you not trust

yourself

based on his “carefree posting”?

[Nimueh]

oka is town

if u have no clue then whats their to lose by hopping on this wagon? you could get some insight when he inevitably pops in again and always hop off if u need to but ur not going to get anywhere if ur just waiting around for something to happen

I’m not impressed with his ISO but I dunno if it’s scummy.

I’m going to metacheck him.

[Nimueh]

oka is town

if u have no clue then whats their to lose by hopping on this wagon? you could get some insight when he inevitably pops in again and always hop off if u need to but ur not going to get anywhere if ur just waiting around for something to happen

I’m not impressed with his ISO but I dunno if it’s scummy.

I’m going to metacheck him.

Okay, that was a complete exercise in futility. ISO’d him in one scumgame and one towngame and his posting here, isn’t similar to either. :/