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Post #168 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:46 pm
Postby Nimueh »
In post 49, apthet wrote:Skygazer finding you as town from that interaction seems kind of unjustified and trying too hard to "get something done" quickly. RadiantCowbells's attitude towards his vote feels to me like town more working off of a feeling and being relaxed about it, which feels more genuine.
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Post #177 (isolation #10) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:09 am
Postby Nimueh »
In post 106, Skygazer wrote:forcing a townbloc is a rlly bad way of going about making a townbloc
i think a lot of things are just being left in my head/notes/wherever they're being left so i'd like to clarify that RC's posting feels like genuine town frustration especially after playing with him in the past
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Post #192 (isolation #15) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:23 am
Postby Nimueh »
In post 187, OkaPoka wrote:Nimueh, you misunderstand me. My take on apthet changed whether she is an alt or not. But if she is new, then her posting imo is nai bc I can't use meta so I have to generalize based on my experience with newbs
I don’t know why her being an alt affects your read on her this much. Thinking it over, I’m nullreading her posts atm.
Definitely reading into this a bit more than I maybe should, but I thought that responding to this was you sort of subconsciously showing discomfort.
In post 191, Something_Smart wrote:You really shouldn't be townreading him at all unless you have extensive experience with him.
I felt like this was you trying to discredit a potentially strong town player early on, to establish breathing room.
I can see how this is a part of your playstyle, but more importantly, your immediate response about it being a playstyle definitely makes me think that you're exasperated town who gets this a lot!
VOTE: Nimueh
I don’t know if he’s “exasperated” exactly but I do think he’s likely town.
So, why did you vote me?
You don’t mention me at all in this post, then just put a naked vote on me?
So let me get this straight. We both are currently townleaning RC and that in your mind, makes me scum because?
In post 49, apthet wrote:Skygazer finding you as town from that interaction seems kind of unjustified and trying too hard to "get something done" quickly. RadiantCowbells's attitude towards his vote feels to me like town more working off of a feeling and being relaxed about it, which feels more genuine.
I like this post. Reads like a townie opening.
why does this read like a townie opening to you? I feel like this opening is kind of an easy analysis to make to have some sort of contribution early on, it's not like strongly town or strongly scum. but her later posts are kind of unimpressive and she just seems to be jumping around w her votes at this point w/o trying to put them to good use imo
I'm not why you're asking why I have apthet as scum when just before that you asked me that you have her near the bottom of ur list just above GL who's literally made one post.
My TOM vote was a page 2 vote, not really any rhyme or reason other than to throw out a naked vote and see what happens, but I didn't really see their entrance as town or scum tbh
sorry, don't have time to dig up all the relevant quotes for ur questions but i think i got them all
That was my initial response. Are you reading my posts in chronological order? Because if you are, you would notice that I changed my opinion to a nullread but her throwing down a naked vote on me is scummy.
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Post #219 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:54 am
Postby Nimueh »
In post 208, RadiantCowbells wrote:It actually upsets me. It kills my motivation to play the game. It makes me not want to play mafia anymore. It makes me want to hide on secret alts. Etc.
In post 209, RadiantCowbells wrote:And this isn't the first time you've heard this complaint from me. I believe I've made it at least half a dozen times.
My take is that you need to base your read on what makes the most sense. Your posting here reads townie and as long as I think that, I’m never voting you. If SS is paranoid of your slot, it’s probably not very helpful on D1.
how does this progression happen when ur own PoE would lead to apthet being in ur scum pool? it just feels like shallow questioning trying to make a good entrance
VOTE: Nimueh
You’re misconstruing my readslist. It was an order of whom att I found townie to least townie. So, I don’t see any contradiction. I wasn’t scumreading her att.
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Post #224 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:09 pm
Postby Nimueh »
In post 221, OkaPoka wrote:How do you guys have somewhat fleshed out readslist already
Well, you’re the only slot I’m townreading who’s currently voting me.
It’s just tentative, helps me to organize my reads. I can see how Sky might get confused by my question wrt my readslist but I don’t understand why she thinks I’m scum because of it.
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Post #257 (isolation #32) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:12 pm
Postby Nimueh »
In post 85, OkaPoka wrote:i think its hard to make a judgement call on what is scummy and what isnt until later in the day where i can get a bigger picture
which is why priority rn should be to generate content
VOTE: apthet
Oh sorry, I missed that, so only at L-3. apthet is definitely scum here. She hasn’t yet given a single reason for voting me and Lion is probably her partner for that opportunistic vote. Only one who gave a believable reason for it, was Sky.
In post 85, OkaPoka wrote:i think its hard to make a judgement call on what is scummy and what isnt until later in the day where i can get a bigger picture
which is why priority rn should be to generate content
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-16 11:52:59).
Oh my God, you’re right and apthet scumreads me for being “agitated”.
But with both scum voting you, you only need 3 bad town to hammer.
So, it probably is apthet/Lion then, because his having 0 concerns about my wagon blowing up with no obvious scum fighting it, ought to have rung a loud clanging bell for him, if he were town here but instead he opportunistically puts me at L-2. Town would be a lot more cautious, especially considering that I’ve been pretty obvtown here.
And given this naked RVS vote, it shows signs of GL being uncomfortable to participate in RVS, so I now like my vote.
???
you have too much experience with me to be seriously thinking this
I naked vote in RVS as town all the time
What?
I don't recall you making naked RVS votes as town
Single apparently has meta on Lion.
apthet/Lion look like the scummiest players in the game rn. I did a metacheck on apthet - what extremely little there was - and in the one towngame I found, she was primarily focused on getting townreads rather than pushing mislynches.
In post 217, Nimueh wrote:You don’t mention me at all in this post, then just put a naked vote on me?
why would this be scummy?
You seriously don’t think it’s remotely scummy to not give a single reason to vote someone oitside of RVS? That is classic scum. Scum have a hard time making believable reads and if apthet just continues to dodge this by suspiciously only focusing on my reaction to her vote and never having to explain it, makes it really easy for no one to debunk reasons she never gave.
You seriously asking this after you only voted me, for presumably not townreading Sky? Because you like apthet, gave no reason for your votes.
The only person who did, Sky. apthet and you can’t give reasons for voting me, because you obviously don’t have any. I’m less sure about you but if apthet flips red, you have a better than decent chance of being her partner, imo.
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Post #270 (isolation #40) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:53 pm
Postby Nimueh »
In post 268, apthet wrote:To be honest, I'm... kind of concerned and very very surprised at how you're reacting to this wagon? I would say that three votes is really not a huge deal and you're getting extremely aggressive about it and also making posts that are rather inattentive (asking people who aren't voting you to take their vote off you, not knowing my role, generally misinterpreting the events of the game).
I have no idea how to interpret that and I think that looking at any past games you've played would help me figure it out, which I definitely plan on doing. If I had to guess, you telling everyone repeatedly that you're town and generally wildly accusing people of things seems... genuinely town?
Not a huge deal? Do you understand it takes only 5 votes to lynch and if you’re not scum here, why aren’t you worried about scum possibly hammering me?
I don’t have many games, so you should have 0 problems ISOing me.
You still haven’t given a single reason for even voting me in the first place
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Welcome to the Newsroom, apthet! You are a
News Anchor
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ABILITIES:
FAME & POPULARITY
During the Day, you have your voice and your vote.
You are
Loved
: it will require one more vote to lynch you than default (note that any voting-based abilities are disabled in LyLo).
You're quite well recognized. Your role PM and identity will be posted publicly at the start of the game, but any alignment-revealing information will be redacted.
You win when
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Welcome to the Newsroom, apthet! You are a
News Anchor
, aligned with the
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ABILITIES:
Fame & Popularity
During the Day, you have your voice and your vote.
You are
Loved
: it will require one more vote to lynch you than default (note that any voting-based abilities are disabled in LyLo).
You're quite well recognized. Your role PM and identity will be posted publicly at the start of the game, but any alignment-revealing information will be redacted.
You win when
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The game thread is here. Please confirm by responding with a short summary of your role.
@mod, is this in actuality apthet’s role pm here? Is she IC?
In post 281, Nimueh wrote:Is loved usually a town or scum modifier, or would that be completely irrelevant here?
Not sure, but it's irrelevant here due to the way the setup was created.
Well, i definitely wouldn’t want to vote her if that was possibly town indicative but maybe, her role pm got outed, specifically because she’s “loved”?
I disagree that it's scummy as town very often vote without reason. I don't find it likely that both scum are voting for you right now.
What do you think nsg posting that role pm with her name on it means?
If not apthet than Lion. Everyone else is townier.
How? By everyone else not scumreading you?
I’m not sure, why you keep pushing this narrative? I’ve alreay made it very clear, exactly why.
Because it is unusual for you to be scumreading two people voting for you.
And I don't see why you're reading everyone else as town. Why is Enigma town?
I’m not reading everyone else as town. What I said, was that everyone else is townier than those two, that doesn’t imply I’m townreading everyone else. I never said Enigma was town. He’s made one thoroughly null post, not much to go on rn.
In post 220, Nimueh wrote:You’re misconstruing my readslist. It was an order of whom att I found townie to least townie. So, I don’t see any contradiction. I wasn’t scumreading her att.
so u only had at most one person to SR (GL, and that's kind of a stretch), but u still find the need to point out how you don't see why apthet was catching votes? like if apthet was one of the least townie on ur list, wouldn't that mean, by process of elimination, that apthet should have some pressure on them to sort them more?
Yes of course but it was a tentalis, which is why I asked, because I wanted to strengthen my reads.
In post 220, Nimueh wrote:You’re misconstruing my readslist. It was an order of whom att I found townie to least townie. So, I don’t see any contradiction. I wasn’t scumreading her att.
so u only had at most one person to SR (GL, and that's kind of a stretch), but u still find the need to point out how you don't see why apthet was catching votes? like if apthet was one of the least townie on ur list, wouldn't that mean, by process of elimination, that apthet should have some pressure on them to sort them more?
Yes of course but it was a tentalis, which is why I asked, because I wanted to strengthen my reads.
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Post #345 (isolation #56) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:54 am
Postby Nimueh »
In post 321, Something_Smart wrote:The way apthet voted me, and then immediately reevaluated and pivoted to Nimueh, and then immediately reevaluated again, is something that is vastly more likely to come from town. That would be a weird and very advanced thought process to fake as scum, and it definitely shows that she is genuinely reacting to and analyzing what is happening.
She, like Lion never gave a reason for voting me and hasn’t unvoted, so how is this a “pivot” or “re-evaluation”?