Micro 877: Liars and Millers

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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:59 am

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Hardclaim miller
Guess what Sausage? :D
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Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:25 pm

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@psyche
any chance we can get a daystart mass pm?
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Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:52 pm

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lmfao
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Post Post #14 (isolation #3) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:06 pm

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petition to change it to jerk of all turds
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Post Post #15 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:07 pm

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jkjk i am very proud <3
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Post Post #20 (isolation #5) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:20 pm

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are we both town this time? :thinking:
{tw, skyg, sausage} = millers
{pine, ircher} = nonmillers

{oka, cheeky, nsg, senate}

let's roll
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Post Post #23 (isolation #6) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:27 pm

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yeah he is but i literally want all claims in before we start wagoning
sue me
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Post Post #26 (isolation #7) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:27 pm

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meme pg1 guess is ircher/skyg but i don't feel good abt it

pedit: this was meant for page 1 fuck you
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Post Post #28 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:28 pm

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In post 25, Saudade wrote:Ircher and duck for scum
settle down sweaty we've been there before and we wrecked you on d1 <3
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Post Post #34 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:30 pm

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go wild i probably stopped posting for another reason
you catch me like every time and i normally successfully mislynch you

you're wrong here tho wait for massclaim
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Post Post #35 (isolation #10) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:30 pm

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uh, mass bracket claim. that one.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #11) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:33 pm

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{tw, skyg, sausage, cheeky} = millers
{pine, ircher, oka} = nonmillers

{nsg, senate}

lookin good so far
generally agree with oka unless we catch the nonmiller scum in which case we lynch them
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Post Post #49 (isolation #12) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:33 pm

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i'm gonna lurk out my wagon pls town it up for me friends
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Post Post #51 (isolation #13) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:34 pm

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{tw, skyg, sausage, cheeky, nsg} = millers
{pine, ircher, oka} = nonmillers

{senate}

o my
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Post Post #53 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:34 pm

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In post 50, Saudade wrote:Out of 3?? Did godfather claim miller like an idiot?
I THINK SO
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Post Post #57 (isolation #15) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:35 pm

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In post 54, CheekyTeeky wrote:Hey I thought Sausage was my special nickname...how did it spread?
i started calling him sausage simultaneously lmao made me laugh when you did the same
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Post Post #62 (isolation #16) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:37 pm

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In post 61, CheekyTeeky wrote:Fine I'm seriously not a miller.
why the miller claim?
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Post Post #65 (isolation #17) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:38 pm

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In post 64, OkaPoka wrote:if its cheeky + saudade ill laugh
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Post Post #68 (isolation #18) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:38 pm

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{tw, skyg, sausage, nsg,
cheeky
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{pine, ircher, oka, cheeky} = nonmillers

{senate}



senate hardclaim, cheeky's more detailed explanation later
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Post Post #72 (isolation #19) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:39 pm

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i'm town?
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Post Post #74 (isolation #20) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:40 pm

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i have an authoritative tone?
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Post Post #77 (isolation #21) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:41 pm

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katyusha deserved better
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Post Post #78 (isolation #22) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:41 pm

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In post 76, Saudade wrote:
In post 23, the worst wrote:yeah he is but i literally want all claims in before we start wagoning
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yeah this duck
this pinged me a bit
cute
why?
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Post Post #83 (isolation #23) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:42 pm

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In post 78, the worst wrote:
In post 76, Saudade wrote:
In post 23, the worst wrote:yeah he is but i literally want all claims in before we start wagoning
sue me
yeah this duck
this pinged me a bit
cute
why?
i want this btw but it ties into something else i wanna see before i go into like a whole lot of detail so please answer but don't hold me to answering quickly.... : /
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Post Post #85 (isolation #24) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 82, Skygazer wrote:i didnt know i signed up for a marathon game !!
it's not, it has pedits
you signed up to suffering
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Post Post #87 (isolation #25) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 81, Saudade wrote:
In post 78, the worst wrote:
In post 76, Saudade wrote:
In post 23, the worst wrote:yeah he is but i literally want all claims in before we start wagoning
sue me
yeah this duck
this pinged me a bit
cute
why?
are you stupid

you ask me what fake authoritative tone
i give you this
you ask me why??
yeah was it just an issue with my silly tone or...?
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Post Post #93 (isolation #26) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:44 pm

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my hobbies inlcude long walks on the beach, mislynching sausgae, and reading about sausage being mislynched
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Post Post #96 (isolation #27) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:45 pm

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In post 90, Saudade wrote:idk its d1 and you're like i WaNt ClaImS BeForE wE sTarT WaGoNiNg

like duck, its rvs
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Post Post #105 (isolation #28) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:48 pm

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In post 103, CheekyTeeky wrote:Saudade town <3
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Post Post #108 (isolation #29) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:48 pm

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i think nsg is town
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Post Post #109 (isolation #30) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:49 pm

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In post 107, Saudade wrote:im just ugly
you are beautiful
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Post Post #112 (isolation #31) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:49 pm

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yea
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Post Post #116 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:50 pm

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you can't, the harder you try the harder we sausage.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #33) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:52 pm

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In post 118, Saudade wrote:You've ruined my beautiful name and turned it into a shit american junk food piece of shite
i'm a vegetarian i hate sausages, actually i'm using your good character to unsoil their filthy reputation in my mind!
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Post Post #124 (isolation #34) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:54 pm

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{tw}
{nsg}
{skyg, sausage}
{oka, ct, nsg, pine, senate} = null
{ircher}
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Post Post #125 (isolation #35) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:55 pm

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Just lmk if it actually bothers you but I get the feeling your ridicule at being called Sausage is fairly amused/ironic
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Post Post #128 (isolation #36) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:55 pm

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In post 127, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ew...maybe TW is scum.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #37) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:56 pm

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<3 ircher is my hero <3
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Post Post #132 (isolation #38) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:58 pm

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i'll bbl
stay positive friands
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Post Post #134 (isolation #39) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:59 pm

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In post 124, the worst wrote:{tw}
{nsg}
{skyg, sausage,
ct
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{oka, nsg, pine, senate} = null
{ircher}
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Post Post #135 (isolation #40) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:01 pm

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{
tw
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{
nsg
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{
skyg
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sausage
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ct
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{
oka
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pine
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senate
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{
ircher
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lolol
serves me right for making provocative readlists while working
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Post Post #136 (isolation #41) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:03 pm

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cheeky: any reason why you claimed miller at a mechanical level or just a whim?
also why ew @ my readlist originally?
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Post Post #137 (isolation #42) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:07 pm

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I am pretty genuine about having a harder time sorting the nonmiller claims, CT townpinged me super briefly but I don't 100% trust myself to be right on this read yet. I have gotten cheekyteeky wrong once semi recently and wonder if anyone knows the game I'm referring to
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Post Post #140 (isolation #43) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:08 pm

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since that was an epic failure I'm probably closer to

{tw}
{nsg}
{ct}
{everyone else}

in reality

if nsg is actually a wolf I'm softclearing her from being partners with cheeky
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Post Post #141 (isolation #44) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:09 pm

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All good, after I flip some tables I'll be lurking a bit more too.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #45) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:16 pm

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In post 144, OkaPoka wrote:i am confused at how u are arriving at these reads but i guess the real question is

how do u have reads already

pedit: nsg i think we lynch in miller pool !
lynching a wolf is highest priority
lynching in the miller pool is cool but not a necessity

if we lynch correctly outside the miller pool we have a 1/4 chance of hitting the other wolf
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Post Post #150 (isolation #46) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:19 pm

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In post 149, OkaPoka wrote:nah

lynching within miller pool first is always optimal unless you can guarantee like a >70% chance scumreading someone first try (i made up that number but the point stands, it should be very unlikely to the point where its not worth it)
yea this is what I'm saying :{
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Post Post #151 (isolation #47) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:22 pm

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if we find a wolf tho don't like... push back on it bc they're not miller pool.... substituting a wagon on scum for a wagon which is mechanically more likely to hit scum at random is a great way to not lynch scum
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Post Post #152 (isolation #48) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:24 pm

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In post 142, AzoriusSenate wrote:I'm here. And also I'm not a miller.
Any thoughts/reads as of yet Senate?

Same @Ircher/Oka
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Post Post #153 (isolation #49) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:25 pm

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In post 136, the worst wrote:cheeky: any reason why you claimed miller at a mechanical level or just a whim?
also why ew @ my readlist originally?
just quoting this to reinforce I'm really interested in seeing which way your cogs are turning ms teeky
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Post Post #155 (isolation #50) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:25 pm

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There isn't a coalition. There are two groups which contain one scum each -- the miller claims (4 claims, 3 millers) and the nonmiller claims (5 players)
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Post Post #156 (isolation #51) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:26 pm

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I'd appreciate if you did spend some time analysing. The crazier your theories/wilder your posts are the better. :>
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Post Post #157 (isolation #52) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:27 pm

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btw cop is now a named townie and should probably just claim the day before lylo for the free clear
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Post Post #158 (isolation #53) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:27 pm

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I guess they die anyway but a lylo claim is unlikely to be helpful unless the cop knows a lot better than me
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Post Post #163 (isolation #54) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:33 pm

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In post 159, Saudade wrote:duck just claim that you're scum man
why do you want me to be scum so much ):
when I'm scum and you're town we normally get along great
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Post Post #165 (isolation #55) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:33 pm

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In post 161, AzoriusSenate wrote:
In post 24, Saudade wrote:Ur scum too
In post 25, Saudade wrote:Ircher and duck for scum
In post 27, Saudade wrote:2/2 page 2 solve quote me later at game end
In post 50, Saudade wrote:Out of 3?? Did godfather claim miller like an idiot?
So far I'm liking Saudade for town and probably won't want to lynch them today.
is this mostly tonal or are you seeing something deeper than I am?
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Post Post #168 (isolation #56) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:39 pm

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Cop only matters if goon claims nonmiller vice versa
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Post Post #172 (isolation #57) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:46 pm

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huh good call
If they're very lynchable I'd encourage the day before lylo but otherwise I'm cool w/ that
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Post Post #173 (isolation #58) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:46 pm

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In post 167, Ircher wrote:also, let's face it: the cop is gonna claim miller or not miller as well because 1) they can and 2) they don't want to be outted. So one group will have five because it will include the cop.
Given ircher is a mechanical player, I actually think this was kinda townslippy.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #59) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:46 pm

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Pretty weak read. Need more ircher.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #60) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:50 pm

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nsg you really think this is a wolf?
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Post Post #177 (isolation #61) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:53 pm

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Ircher lmk when you've caught up and had a cup of coffee
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Post Post #182 (isolation #62) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:59 pm

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I admitted to not actually having a read on Sausage yet
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Post Post #184 (isolation #63) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:00 pm

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alright can you see why sausage/me is a pretty bad scumteam?
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Post Post #185 (isolation #64) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:01 pm

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(also sorry! a tea/yummy beverage of choice)
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Post Post #189 (isolation #65) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:07 pm

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Personally I'm gonna be focusing on reading people at face value before considering claim positions. Strikes me as too easy to tunnel/bias if you focus too much on Xychotomies
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Post Post #190 (isolation #66) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:08 pm

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In post 188, AzoriusSenate wrote:Confidence makes one town because it shows that you're willing to put your voice out there and give reads.
This is a valid tell for a rand player and I don't mind that you've come to it, but Saudade is a very skilled scum player and heavily projects confidence as both alignments. Was there anything other than his confident tonality that impressed you? /or any other slots you have feelings on?
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Post Post #195 (isolation #67) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:12 pm

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In post 192, Ircher wrote:@the worst no not really; still think you/Suadade is a good possibility. I might reread tomorrow.

Pedit: I'd give it say +3% towniness.
Talk me through how a saud/tw team approaches this game?
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Post Post #196 (isolation #68) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:12 pm

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In post 194, Skygazer wrote:ircher oof
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Post Post #198 (isolation #69) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:14 pm

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I feel like Saudade would put on a confident tone as either alignment just to advance the game and keep the thread spicy like regardless of the benefit of it so I'd rather we don't focus on his tonality too much ):
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Post Post #209 (isolation #70) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:23 pm

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Ircher I can prove 100% beyond doubt that saudade and I are not scum together. how do you feel abt that
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Post Post #211 (isolation #71) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:23 pm

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mechanically impossible
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Post Post #213 (isolation #72) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:24 pm

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yeah I was gonna bait a bit more and see if he perspective slipped
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Post Post #215 (isolation #73) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:27 pm

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Talk me through the gambit you'd see?
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Post Post #217 (isolation #74) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:29 pm

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Very.
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Post Post #218 (isolation #75) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:29 pm

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<=== my serious face (though you may not be able to see it through the helmet).
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Post Post #220 (isolation #76) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:30 pm

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In post 219, AzoriusSenate wrote:
In post 198, the worst wrote:I feel like Saudade would put on a confident tone as either alignment just to advance the game and keep the thread spicy like regardless of the benefit of it so I'd rather we don't focus on his tonality too much ):
You know, I'm not going to back down from my read. I appreciate you providing a different perspective on it, however. I have marked you leaning town for that.
That's fine, actually it's great. :D I like people having firm reads and look forward to seeing how things develop.

How do you feel about Skygazer and NSG? We don't need to sort the miller pool immediately but we've made some good progress.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #77) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:34 pm

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WOW actually welcome back! I hadn't checked your profile til just now.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #78) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:35 pm

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In post 224, Ircher wrote:
In post 217, the worst wrote:Very.
(Wow!)

Basically it goes like this:

Mafia both claim miller in the hopes that 1) there aren't 6 miller claims (remember, the cop can claim either one) and two) town attempts to lynch one from each pool.

I guess that kinda rules you/Suadade out since y'all claimed early, but it's still possible for some of the people who claimed later.
Sure, understood. The cop could then out if they weren't in the miller pool to confscum 2/5 slots and conftown 4 which is very close to auto. I don't think scum realistically ever does this.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #79) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:38 pm

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In post 229, Skygazer wrote:i have the hiccups someone scare me or something
I meta'd skygazer and she's 100% lockscum
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Post Post #234 (isolation #80) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:39 pm

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But don't focus on your heart rate too much or it might rise
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Post Post #235 (isolation #81) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:39 pm

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and don't hyperventilate!!!
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Post Post #237 (isolation #82) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:41 pm

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In post 232, AzoriusSenate wrote:Asking not to be lynched without any pressure feels scummy to me. Whereas northsidegal is just null so far, they haven't really given enough content for me to figure anything out yet.
Ah Cheeky withdrew her miller claim very quickly (I'm keen to hear more from her about that :P) Skygazer is the other claimed miller.

I don't blame you for wanting to see more nsg! If she's town she'll be something to behold in this list, I suspect. :)

(sorry nsg no pressure I just think you're a star)
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Post Post #239 (isolation #83) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:41 pm

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In post 236, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 136, the worst wrote:cheeky: any reason why you claimed miller at a mechanical level or just a whim?
also why ew @ my readlist originally?
I was just joining the fad.
Because it's a scum's readslist.
ok
and how so?
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Post Post #251 (isolation #84) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:07 pm

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HARDCLAIM STUPID
I'm also town tho
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Post Post #253 (isolation #85) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:08 pm

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I'm taking a lot of notes/working on a more Socratic hyperposting playstyle this game :good: I think I'm gonna smash this though, just bear with me. <3
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Post Post #257 (isolation #86) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:09 pm

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:nerd: Leaning skyg>saud~=nsg in the miller pool atm
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Post Post #260 (isolation #87) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:10 pm

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other way round qtπ
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Post Post #262 (isolation #88) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:11 pm

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How am I trying to appear town? :o
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Post Post #264 (isolation #89) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:11 pm

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I actually think the way I'm stoking content and not presenting reads is a massive deviation from my town meta
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Post Post #266 (isolation #90) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:12 pm

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In post 263, Ircher wrote:
In post 257, the worst wrote::nerd: Leaning skyg>saud~=nsg in the miller pool atm
That's town to scum?

@Suadade - Try again.
Pedit: Is he now?
Pedit2: Idk.
Skyg scum
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Post Post #267 (isolation #91) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:13 pm

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In post 265, Saudade wrote:
In post 262, the worst wrote:How am I trying to appear town? :o
protip #1 to playing as scum:
stop being so reactionary
I'm a lot less reactionary as scum yeah
it does help me if you qualify stuff a little more
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Post Post #273 (isolation #92) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:14 pm

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word soup word soup word soup word soup
word soup s a u s a g e word soup word soup
word soup word soup word soup word soup

look at you lost in there
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Post Post #275 (isolation #93) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:15 pm

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In post 272, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ircher soft defending ducky O_o
he's actively calling for qualifications on the scumreads on me. soft defending is a pretty loaded language choice.
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Post Post #278 (isolation #94) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:16 pm

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In post 269, CheekyTeeky wrote:Like why is NSG town though TW?
need a bit more nsg sry I'm not gonna compromise content that'll give me a more confident read to substantiate a weak read like less than 12 hours into the phase orz
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Post Post #280 (isolation #95) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:17 pm

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In post 277, CheekyTeeky wrote:Are you shading 1 of your only 2 townreads TW?
If I was shading you I would have used more effective language. :P I'm suggesting you might be approaching ircher with a bit of bias.
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Post Post #282 (isolation #96) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:18 pm

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we can lynch saudade for the memes later if you want but I wanna find the scumteam first
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Post Post #284 (isolation #97) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:19 pm

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I thought 282 was pretty funny ):
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Post Post #287 (isolation #98) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:19 pm

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is there a way to respond to that other than to say something funny? I think all 3 of us are town so :shrug:
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Post Post #290 (isolation #99) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:20 pm

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how would you expect me to respond differently as town?
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Post Post #292 (isolation #100) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:21 pm

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if you guys mislynch me for being fluffy and charismatic I will laugh my ass off in the dead thread
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Post Post #295 (isolation #101) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:22 pm

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Actually my soft goal for this game is to write more outside the thread than in the thread! So I don't really want to publicly go through other angles quite yet.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #102) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:22 pm

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In post 293, CheekyTeeky wrote:the worst the problem is that you're trying too hard to appear town.
can you qualify this? I'm actually intentionally leaving surface level town indicative content out of my ISO like very intentionally
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Post Post #299 (isolation #103) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:23 pm

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this is sending me back to high school y'all bullies
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Post Post #303 (isolation #104) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:25 pm

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If it's any solace having one accurate scumread = 3-4 free town
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Post Post #304 (isolation #105) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:26 pm

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gonna keep taking notes keep other people engaged for a bit
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Post Post #311 (isolation #106) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:29 pm

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In post 307, OkaPoka wrote:but he is a miller claim
you are henceforth b& from the m word
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Post Post #314 (isolation #107) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:31 pm

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I fucked up on that readlist btw I was trying to draw reactions and nearly all of them were made up reads

I accidentally all the millers at the top and nonmillers at the bottom tho so I don't think it was very effective
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Post Post #315 (isolation #108) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:31 pm

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In post 313, OkaPoka wrote:meanwhile cheeky+saudade are trying to steamroll

and steamrolling is powerwolf move
reads on the slots individually?
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Post Post #317 (isolation #109) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:37 pm

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are you starting to think it's saudade/cheekyteeky too?
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Post Post #319 (isolation #110) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:38 pm

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it's really not lol
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Post Post #321 (isolation #111) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:39 pm

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pmsl if it's oka/skyg
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I'm like very intentionally leaving all of the sorting I'm doing out of the thread (except ircher but he townslipped spectacularly) so I kinda get it, I more have issue with both of them thinking I'm trying too hard to look town when I'm p sure I'm doing the polar opposite :cry:

Have I failed?!
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In post 326, Skygazer wrote:tw did you roll scum ):
not this time sry :c you?
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In post 323, the worst wrote:ircher but he townslipped spectacularly
Where?
I'll be p surprised if it's not an alignment slip, he clearly hasn't reflected on the setup at all which he being the godfather would require him to do to an extent
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Post Post #333 (isolation #114) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:55 pm

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We need nsg itt to have her alignment down but I think she's exhibited something closer to a town mindset than sky. Tbf I'm liable to misread sky earlier game. Mostly I think we need more d1 to happen within the miller pool.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #115) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:55 pm

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In post 332, CheekyTeeky wrote:So because he's ignoring the setup he has town slipped?
do you disagree?
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Post Post #335 (isolation #116) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:56 pm

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like has this setup been run before? do you see a world where goon/godfather don't touch base pregame to ensure they claim right? o.0
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Post Post #337 (isolation #117) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:58 pm

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I took one look at the setup and went "eewwwww" then thought about it and was like "sweet mountainousish"

Scum have a goon and a godfather tho like they need to be cognisant of the fact they need to claim correctly sod1 or they're screwed
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Post Post #341 (isolation #118) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:06 pm

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So two worlds exist

1) he's town and claimed correctly but didn't think about the ramifications of claiming incorrectly for scum then legitimately slipped that he wasn't paying attention to the two Xychotomies via calling a saud/tw scumteam

2) he's scum who was informed to claim a certain way but was also not told why and paid no attention to the ramifications of not claiming correctly even though he was harbouring a secret scum strat that they could both lolclaim millers without thinking about the ramifications of that?

I understand he's not 100% eternally locktown forever level townslipped but I think he did townslip pretty firmly. His posting is also very in character (ircher's tone game isn't strong and I think he'd agree with me; he's mislynched a lot). His approach to me scumreading me for pushiness and hyperpresence was also imo a more accurate take than your scumread on me and his turnaround when I trolled him was quite good.

Either lad's heavily coached (Skyg/Saud/nsg/me - take your pick - I think nsg is the only person experienced/possibly a wolf/not posting itt at the time; Saudade is the outlier for being inactive while ircher and I were conversing but he's town so whatever) or ircher pulled this off himself.

I've wolfed with ircher before. We pulled off some nice moves together. He's just come out of retirement recently. I don't think this is scum!ircher flying solo. I don't see a lot of coaching equity. I think he's town.
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Post Post #342 (isolation #119) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:07 pm

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"more accurate than your scumread" is like, I can see where he's coming from before I can see where you're coming from. this is probs obvious but you're gonna ask anyway
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Post Post #344 (isolation #120) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:10 pm

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Talk to me abt townreading Skyg?
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Post Post #346 (isolation #121) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:12 pm

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sinks
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Post Post #347 (isolation #122) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:14 pm

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I'm scared how much you remind me of that newbie game and how little you remind me of mith's game
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Post Post #350 (isolation #123) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:16 pm

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I think you're town and I don't like your reads.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #124) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:16 pm

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town won yeah
read 3p, reck was absolutely brilliant
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Post Post #356 (isolation #125) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:19 pm

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Spoiler: spoilers, everyone should read pop goes the night kill
ugh you diddddd and me/cultofathena too tbh
he trolled penguinpower hard in 3p by saying he lockscummed him and would never vote your replacement, so your replacement shot reck. Reck voted your replacement. The dead chat was screaming
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Post Post #357 (isolation #126) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:20 pm

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I have quite a lot to do at work and need to lay out a bit of a case on how I feel abt Skyg atm so I'm not gonna do that yet. I'm also working through tonight until lateish. But I'll try. I have a tonne of notes just cbf writing up anything legible and not sure I'm keen on doing it yet
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Post Post #360 (isolation #127) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:24 pm

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You're town right sausage?
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Post Post #362 (isolation #128) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:25 pm

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If the scumteam is you/ircher just claim and I'll wolfside
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Post Post #363 (isolation #129) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:25 pm

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I'm townreading you very strongly!
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Post Post #365 (isolation #130) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:25 pm

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FUCK MY TOWNCORE...
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Post Post #367 (isolation #131) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:27 pm

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you are not used to me shitposting this hard are you
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Post Post #370 (isolation #132) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:28 pm

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Love you too Cheeky. Even if you're a scumbutt.
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Post Post #374 (isolation #133) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:33 pm

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Sausage is henceforth b& from the m word
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Post Post #375 (isolation #134) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:33 pm

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this game is exactly mountainous except we get tonnes of clears when we lynch scum d1
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Post Post #378 (isolation #135) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:34 pm

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don't u dare say
Spoiler: correct tag because ircher uses mac and I respect his feelings
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Post Post #380 (isolation #136) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:35 pm

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In post 377, OkaPoka wrote:ow

i dont want to force out reads because ill end up liking what i say and then be too stubborn to change it

im going to tunnel this game so i might as well delay my tunnel lol
why would you not tunnel
hurry up and tunnel mr chicken!
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Post Post #381 (isolation #137) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:35 pm

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In post 379, OkaPoka wrote:i think anyone who has played/seen my town game can attest to me tunneling people and usually im wrong
this is good whoever you tunnel is basically cleared
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Post Post #384 (isolation #138) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:37 pm

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In post 382, OkaPoka wrote:rn im tunneling the entire miller list
you said the m word put a dollar in the m_ller jar

talk me through the slots in there, start with an easy ISO of skyg/nsg if you want
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Post Post #388 (isolation #139) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:40 pm

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Don't feel bad for tunnelling ingame. We're all town irl. Let's see some chicken magic*. :]

*voodoo optional
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Post Post #390 (isolation #140) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:41 pm

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ugh yeah I forgot... sausage might not be town irl..
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Post Post #393 (isolation #141) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:43 pm

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Anything else abt it bug you?
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Post Post #398 (isolation #142) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:04 pm

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I felt like the townread on you was overqualified, it
1) felt kinda stiff tonally
2) was bizarre to me that she scumread you prior to that
3) confused me that she mentioned newsroom at all bc yeah I don't see the similarity
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Post Post #399 (isolation #143) » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:09 pm

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In post 92, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: Skygazer
In post 94, Saudade wrote:VOTE: Skygazer
In post 98, OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: skygazer

whats up gang

i want to be a part of something too!
In post 100, Saudade wrote:VOTE: okapoka
okay you're overdoing it
In post 199, Skygazer wrote:i was worried oka was scum until he started SRing me

i think im getting town vibes from him in the same vein of newsroom
I feel like there's a kind of like...uncomfortable aloofness in her whole approach to reading you here. like its a really weird time to give an overqualified hard defence of you and I think I need skyg to qualify her scumread on you prior to the lolwagon
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Post Post #403 (isolation #144) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:47 am

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i'm probs just not gonna engage with the ircher wagon at all until he has more content and/or i reread and feel less confident that he townslipped
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Post Post #409 (isolation #145) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:17 am

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ah ok
still, had your best interests at heart
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Post Post #445 (isolation #146) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:47 am

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In post 428, OkaPoka wrote:anyone of u browse /r/asoiaf

i have a pretty tinfoily theory that might work better now
not atm (i need a break) but usually yea hmu
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Post Post #446 (isolation #147) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:47 am

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In post 429, OkaPoka wrote:ircher ur not voting a miller

voting millers is optimal here
two violations die chicken
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Post Post #447 (isolation #148) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:50 am

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Nsg doesn't starstrike me! I think I've hit a level of healthy but measured respect for her! ):

Cheeky you didn't need to claim, I already had you as silly town.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #149) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:59 am

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dw, if i was scum i wouldn't shoot you. <3 the game's more fun with you alive
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Post Post #460 (isolation #150) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:20 am

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In post 458, OkaPoka wrote:well after cheeky claim i dont think it matters if we lynch within vt or miller pool lol
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Post Post #466 (isolation #151) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:00 am

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In post 461, OkaPoka wrote:basically now we have the option to not lynch within the miller pool but if we want to lynch millers thats ok too because in the setup liars and millers, lynching millers is only optimal in protecting cop but since cop is outed we can lynch either millers or non millers but most importantly we have to keep lynching in one pool or the other (miller or non miller) but anways this means i have to scumhunt instead of saying lol miller which is kinda lame because i signed up for this game thinking i can chill with lol miller ideas but ill be back later with some hopefully better developed reads than lol miller
I've submitted a dayvig on this

this is Oka's most substantial post and it made me throw up
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Post Post #469 (isolation #152) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:01 am

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In post 463, AzoriusSenate wrote:I really dislike CheekyTeeky at the moment for doing that, seems like a role fishing attempt on d1...
What's the problem with it?
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Post Post #470 (isolation #153) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:01 am

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not yet
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Post Post #476 (isolation #154) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:15 am

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did anyone ever explain a townread on skygazer? I don't think I saw one
looking at you cheeky
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Post Post #477 (isolation #155) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:24 am

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I was busy last night but I can explain why I think she's likely a wolf if you give me something to calibrate against. Like I said explaining my townread on nsg would be too early
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Post Post #478 (isolation #156) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:01 am

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Cheeky I think I have the game solved. Did you hardclaim for the reason I think you hardclaimed?
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Post Post #481 (isolation #157) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:16 pm

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Yes
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Post Post #482 (isolation #158) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:16 pm

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A sneaky meta dive is the last thing I want to do before I have him as like, never-reconsidering always town jsyk
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Post Post #483 (isolation #159) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:16 pm

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Do you still have skygazer as town?
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Post Post #488 (isolation #160) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:32 pm

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Experimenting. ;] I think I talk too much normally and lose sight of the big picture. This might be too extreme in the other direction but I think I'm doing well producing content itt and sorting outside the thread!

Could you talk to me about Skyg town?
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Post Post #489 (isolation #161) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:33 pm

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not explaining my nsg read is intentional and tactful tho
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Post Post #495 (isolation #162) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:43 pm

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I haven't said why, does it concern you?

and my master plan is to ANNIHILATE TEH SCUMS
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Post Post #497 (isolation #163) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:45 pm

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Post Post #501 (isolation #164) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:46 pm

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Post Post #502 (isolation #165) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 499, Skygazer wrote:@tw I'm just having trouble deciding if I'm an easy push for you here or if you're reaction testing or if your scum read is genuine ):
y r u having trouble with this
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Post Post #511 (isolation #166) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:54 pm

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:U
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Post Post #512 (isolation #167) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:55 pm

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alright Skyg accepting I'm trying a different playstyle: what has my intention been with my dayplay so far? Don't reread my ISO (it's very long) just gimme your thoughts
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Post Post #519 (isolation #168) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:57 pm

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Oh saudade is town via content like, almost for sure.

pedit:
CheekyTeeky wrote:AS is town.
yeeaa
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Post Post #522 (isolation #169) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:59 pm

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Can I tell them why you claimed cheeky?
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Post Post #524 (isolation #170) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:00 pm

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Nononono don't be sad!! I still love you!
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Post Post #527 (isolation #171) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:01 pm

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alrighty
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Post Post #530 (isolation #172) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:08 pm

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less ironic readlist is like this beeteedubz

{tw, cheeky}
{ircher, sausage}
{senate, nsg}
{pine} = null
{skyg}
{okapoka}

like I said needs weighting via pine/nsg interacting more
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Post Post #531 (isolation #173) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:08 pm

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interacting w the thread more**
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I'm still kinda midway thru it but you can bop me on having an accurate Skyg read by like the end of the weekend (our time, not fake time)
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Post Post #537 (isolation #175) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:19 pm

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Don't bully poor Mr. Chicken he's trying not to engage with his scumbuddy!
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Post Post #539 (isolation #176) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:24 pm

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Ircher, given we've historically struggled reading each other I was really happy when you picked up my shtick this game so intuitively. (this sounds post-gamey, but it's weighing into my read on you as well. :D)
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Post Post #541 (isolation #177) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:29 pm

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Yeah ik but the tells are just there
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Post Post #542 (isolation #178) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:29 pm

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Mfw oka/sky is the scumteam
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Post Post #545 (isolation #179) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:35 pm

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Yeah :]
Do you like me?
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Post Post #546 (isolation #180) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:36 pm

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We're also like FINALLY t/t and I'm enjoying the sausage experience!
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Post Post #548 (isolation #181) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:44 pm

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Post Post #554 (isolation #182) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:56 pm

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In post 550, Saudade wrote:dont help me solve the game tho


but damn that's cute
how's your solve goin
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Post Post #558 (isolation #183) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:02 pm

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In post 555, Saudade wrote:gonna lynch sky
hows yours
big mood tbh
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Post Post #559 (isolation #184) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:03 pm

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I don't feel like heaps gotchaaaaa yet and I'll feel better once nsg blows my mind a little but for now we lookin ok
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Post Post #560 (isolation #185) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:03 pm

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I feel a little gotchaaaaa tho
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Post Post #562 (isolation #186) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:06 pm

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can't stop!!
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Post Post #565 (isolation #187) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:17 pm

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Because you're a wolf AtEing
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Post Post #567 (isolation #188) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:20 pm

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Skyg you've seen me misread you and fix my read by now I think?
you know I have a high opinion of your towngame and you're really capable of towntelling to me

why's this game different fypov?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #189) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:26 pm

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you just do skygazer things ™ and my read accuracy improves!
do you think it's unrealistic that I'm scumreading you in this game? => do you think there's something more I should be looking for?
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Post Post #573 (isolation #190) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:26 pm

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In post 571, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why does noone ever listen to my saudade reads?
I'm both with you and listening attentively. Having you as conftown and a paranoia check is really healthy for me here
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Post Post #576 (isolation #191) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:30 pm

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I don't feel like doing the wallcasey thing so you see where I'm coming from yet :c you holistically haven't done much this game tho tbf
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Post Post #583 (isolation #192) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:41 pm

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In post 50, Saudade wrote:Out of 3?? Did godfather claim miller like an idiot?
This was really good in realtime like I actually had the mental image of sausage spitting tea all over his computer screen via tone like turn seconds on in your vote time/date thing and look at how fast he's typing this shit

It's not a decision of "hmm I'm gonna sound towny in my reaction" he's actually just got a very sound tone here
In post 73, Saudade wrote:i do think the duck is being fake in his authoritative tone
In post 76, Saudade wrote:
In post 23, the worst wrote:yeah he is but i literally want all claims in before we start wagoning
sue me
yeah this duck
this pinged me a bit
I know I aggressively trolled him abt this but this was a good take
In post 90, Saudade wrote:
In post 87, the worst wrote:
In post 81, Saudade wrote:
In post 78, the worst wrote:
In post 76, Saudade wrote:
In post 23, the worst wrote:yeah he is but i literally want all claims in before we start wagoning
sue me
yeah this duck
this pinged me a bit
cute
why?
are you stupid

you ask me what fake authoritative tone
i give you this
you ask me why??
yeah was it just an issue with my silly tone or...?
idk its d1 and you're like i WaNt ClaImS BeForE wE sTarT WaGoNiNg

like duck, its rvs
relax
Him getting bored of interacting with me here and moving onto other shit is +town
In post 94, Saudade wrote:VOTE: Skygazer
good vote (ik he's sheeping cheekyteeky for the meme but it's still a good vote)
In post 100, Saudade wrote:VOTE: okapoka
okay you're overdoing it
good vote I agree
In post 111, Saudade wrote:
In post 108, the worst wrote:i think nsg is town
by his 1 post entrance?
wew teach me
inquisitive tone not snarky still doing things other than pushing me. my read on nsg is like prime cut lynchbait steak. there isn't opportunism here it's like a bookmark
In post 241, Saudade wrote:
In post 183, Ircher wrote:
In post 177, the worst wrote:Ircher lmk when you've caught up and had a cup of coffee
I don't drink coffee plus it's nighttime for me.

the worst
and
Suadade may be scum rn.
Senate maybe as well.

Everyone else is pretty much null. Maybe Cheeky town for the way they claimed and then went back on it.
are you stupid?
this balk=>"town clown" in 301 is within sausage scumrange but makes me feel warm
In post 247, Saudade wrote:VOTE: theworst
again hasn't stopped pushing me because he thinks I'm town/cbf working out how to lynch me. he stopped pushing me because there was other stuff to focus on. I'm glad he circled back here and his reason for scumreading me was patently more towny than Cheeky's. (that's right I said it!!!)
In post 255, Saudade wrote:i dont like skygazer either
This is a sorting perspective insight
As scum he needs to squeeze a mislynch into {you, me, nsg} or (strongly preferably) a mislynch onto someone outside the wagon. the fact he legitimately actively scumreads me but also actively scumreads you is really sloppy optically from a scum pov and I don't think it's the kind of post he ends up bothering to make
In post 291, Saudade wrote:in a town mindset, yes there is a way

you ignore the post and look at different angles to approach the game since you currently have no scumreads
tonality around this is consistent with the rest of his ISO; it's a little bit silly/lamisty but he actually sounds pretty vexed not opportunistic



just my note highlights, this is a town ISO tho
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Post Post #584 (isolation #193) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:42 pm

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In post 582, Saudade wrote:do you scum read me skygayzer
I probably shld have waited for this smh
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Post Post #589 (isolation #194) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:46 pm

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I'm ~magical~
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Post Post #590 (isolation #195) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:46 pm

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fwiw my strongest scumgames are when people overadjust to my meta/tonality and I think I can one up them so I wouldn't encourage tonereading me overall
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Post Post #604 (isolation #196) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:07 pm

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Ircher is one of the things I can't really elaborate on quiteeeeeee yet but I'm hard vetoing any votes on him for the next 72 hours from anyone who wants to work with me on solving this sucker

After that, fair game.
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Post Post #613 (isolation #197) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:18 pm

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This is a long list of little pings with one tell which makes my skin crawl a lil
In post 52, OkaPoka wrote:ok looks like we are just lynching millers for the rest of this game lolllll
Response to the 5 miller claims is tonally more opportunistic than e.g. sausage's. not a big deal but he's also messaging a fair bit slower slower (if there's a language barrier I apologise extremely profusely but I think English is oka's first language and won't speak for saudade) which means his posting at this point is likely to be more considered.
In post 55, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 50, Saudade wrote:Out of 3?? Did godfather claim miller like an idiot?
so is this u calling out ur gf friend or not
I love little snide comments like this early-game but it's a bit shady and super unrelatable, like as you all now know I had the polar opposite impression from Saudade's posting at the time :/
In post 59, OkaPoka wrote:whoever fucked up just out urself plz

after we win we can demand a reroll
this is p tonally off-putting
In post 64, OkaPoka wrote:if its cheeky + saudade ill laugh
This is fine and pretty funny (I'd thought the same thing for a flash second) but like he.....actually thinks this is a thing. Like he unironically comes back to this later. This is firstly a ridiculous read. Secondly, if you are tinfoiling a powerwolf dynamic duo this hard you do not make some of the posts Oka goes on to make.
In post 98, OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: skygazer

whats up gang

i want to be a part of something too!
opportunistic 3rd vote on wagon popin
note no prior mention of Skyg in his ISO and he fails spectacularly to try and sort or do anything with her later?

what do we call this? free hugs for anyone who guesses where I'm going
In post 129, OkaPoka wrote:why is ircher scummy ;-;

he always gets scumread in marathon games and this is marathon game with longer deadlines
soft defence of ircher is fine
In post 144, OkaPoka wrote:i am confused at how u are arriving at these reads but i guess the real question is

how do u have reads already

pedit: nsg i think we lynch in miller pool !
but he has no reads
despite saud/ct powerwolf duo concerns and soft defending ircher

Which makes me think saud/ct post was a meme and his soft defence of ircher was illegitimate/posting for the sake of looking like he had a stance
In post 149, OkaPoka wrote:nah

lynching within miller pool first is always optimal unless you can guarantee like a >70% chance scumreading someone first try (i made up that number but the point stands, it should be very unlikely to the point where its not worth it)
he talks about this so fucking much I'm gonna omit all the mentions bc like half of my notes is just times he's talked about lynching millers. he's mechgaming constantly despite the fact he's spectacularly failing to sort any of the millers and I don't see how anyone thinks he's like... town parsing this lynching strategy.....
In post 160, OkaPoka wrote:tbh my reads are as follows:

okapoka - town

everyone else - has a 75% of being town

pine probs town for having same thoughts as me tho
ha ha my reads are rand
+ concern with soft defence of ircher
another post supporting that he realizes saud/ct scumteam is a meme
In post 191, OkaPoka wrote:ircher, u think cheeky is town for that meme of a play?
question to ircher would be solid if he was townreading ircher but he like explicitly isn't

it would be solid if he was concerned about cheekyteeky but he's transparently spending no time trying to sort or case her

I appreciate this is all fluffy but I've cut out the entirely fluffy posts in his iso. He's making noises and taking stances but he's not advancing the gamestate and he has no like tangible reads.
In post 208, OkaPoka wrote:if this were a normal game id lynch cheeky
but
millers go first

liars go second
then this comes!! and he's concerned about cheekyteeky powerwolf and yet all of the above is a thing


hold on a sec
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Post Post #616 (isolation #198) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:21 pm

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In post 226, OkaPoka wrote:ircher ur insane
response to spectating ircher townslip
compare again to sausage whose response was hilarious and towny
In post 306, OkaPoka wrote:i think tw is more likely to be town than saudade/cheeky
instantly qualified by him being concerned because I'm a miller claim
.....
In post 312, OkaPoka wrote:positive vibes

key to success for town

trolling ircher

immediate readslist

positive vibes while not exclusively shitposting
gamestate is too advanced for these kinds of tells and I think I've done markedly more towny stuff at this point
In post 313, OkaPoka wrote:meanwhile cheeky+saudade are trying to steamroll

and steamrolling is powerwolf move
In post 318, OkaPoka wrote:ya
later is him responding to me being like "wow am I the only person who thinks it's saud/ct?"

like

he thinks two of the strongest voices itt are the scumteam
yet he wants us to believe he has no reads and he has like... no presence

the amount of disconnect here is incredible
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Post Post #617 (isolation #199) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:23 pm

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also at this point I had done the sausage ISO thing and been like "ohshit yeah sausage is obviously town".....i think it's kinda bizarre he's looked at sausage's posting and gone "POWERWOLF!!" on principle but the fact he seems totally unconcerned with the prospect is quintuply pingy

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