In post 162, Inferno390 wrote:I mean let’s talk about how you’ve responded to me so far.
There’s the fact that you said I thought you were a threat and when asked why you gave vague statements about me being on other sites or metadiving you
And how when it became clear that I had done neither, you now have crafted a narrative where I attacked you because Jingle respects your game solving ability
And the mocking
And the talking down
And the dismissal of the things I’m saying
And how every time I cockblock one bs reason you give you completely drop it, ignore it, and try to come at me from a different angle
Shall I continue?
Alright, I'm back from my slumber.
>im a threat to you
as seen how, when jingle posted, you immediately came up with a bullshit reason to scumread me
>metadiving me
I've been told I'm fairly easy to read. I expect you to do this some time in the two weeks we have. Or, alternatively, flip red.
>narrative
I didn't need to create a narrative, you did a good enough job of that on your own. Is this how you discredit people that point out your bullshit?
>mocking
Because I can't treat someone that's scum reading me over such a bullshit reason seriously as a player or as a person.
>reasoning cockblock
It's the same angle, actually. You're scummy because of your early dramatic 180 read reversal on me, but I'm not sure if it's because you're scum I think I'm just gonna rely on RedFlavor for this one because interacting with you is a chore I could do without from now on.
In post 164, Inferno390 wrote:And then there’s this:
In post 77, Conflict of Interest wrote: In post 52, Inferno390 wrote:I get the feeling that Conflict is looking for points of manipulation on the players and/or dipping his toes in the water to see what he’s playing against. I’m going to parse it a little bit later, but it is definitely off.
I think
VOTE: Conflict is okay for now. Not sold on it, but it’s worth a couple of looks at.
I thşnk u r town lol
-rf
Followed by silence until 115, at which point you express confusion over me scumreading you (okay) and then in the space of 3 posts without giving me anytime to respond, you hard drop your vote on me with seemingly no change (wtf).
Conflict of Interest wrote:I'm not interested in engaging your bullshit today
My bullshit?
MY bullshit?
YOU were the one who said that I might know your meta because possible offsite reasons
YOU were the one who unfoundedly said I could have metadived you based on a chat with someone in the lobby
Despite the fact that, you know, anyone who had done any sort of research on MY meta would know that I have 9% phone posted for the last year.
YOU are the one mocking me with anime JPGs
YOU are the one talking to me like I’m a little baby newbie
If anyone is putting up with bullshit, it’s me. And I’m putting up with yours.
Well it ain’t gonna work. It takes more that that to shake a ‘ferno
>your bullshit
yes
>might know meta
Yeah, it's almost like people try to play to win here or something. Much shock many surprise wow.
>unfounded assertion of meta dive
It wasn't unfounded, I gave the foundation in the post.
>9% phone posting
Is also 91% PCPosting.
>anime jpgs
They're PNG's, actually.
For mostly gut i-dont-think-this-is-scum that i can't really explain well.
TeamWorldwide
: If you could stop hyperposting now, that would be great, thanks.
In post 208, Inferno390 wrote: In post 192, TeamWorldwide wrote: In post 101, Inferno390 wrote: In post 97, Jingle wrote: In post 90, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 75, Jingle wrote:
This is actually untrue, but very few people in this game have any ability when it comes to sorting me.
Why are you condemning him off this, then?
The issue isn't that he's inaccurately reading me. The issue is that he's pushing someone else over something I'm blatantly doing and claiming that I haven't done anything AI.
That’s the thing.
You’re not doing anything like what tn is doing.
Ten is asking these odd questions and making some remarks I find funny, that in my opinion sound like scum trying to get a feel for the players in the game and trying to get a handhold on the game.
Your posting definitely does not have this feel or implications. You’re posting a lot of fluff at the very very basic level. Tn has only made a handful of posts, but they advance the game state in the sense that they have generated discussion between others. You on the other hand are posting a lot, but it’s a lot of meaningless or useless information for sorting/game state.
aren't you contradicting yourself here
you're saying tn is generating discussion but is scumreading him
and you're saying jingle is posting useless info but not scumreading him
No no no
I should have explained this better.
Tn’s opening post was not meant to advance gamestate the way it did. It was unintentionally discussion generating. Jingle’s posts are mostly fluff posting and so provide no information to work off of.
I scumread Conflict because his post had allowed for the discussion and creation of reads in him, at least unintentionally. I do not scumread Jingle because the quality of his posts to not allow for the forming of a read.
Make sense?
>not advancing gamestate
Actually, I wrote that with the intent to skip rvs altogether. For what reason do you think it's not meant to advance the game state when it obviously did exactly that?
>jingle fluff
If he's still up to this shit tomorrow, I'll give that a solid look. I feel like he's also something of a slow starter.
>scumread conflict for things i should be townreading him for
So this is the fundamental misunderstanding that you need to yeet off of this mortal coil ASAP.
>not scumreading Jingle
Watch out for Jingle coming in with suboptimal gamesolves. Maybe once isn't enough for a pattern but he did that in Police Academy and was scum.
In post 211, RadiantTroubadour wrote: In post 210, TeamWorldwide wrote:if the indicator of TvT is arguing because of misinterpretations, then what's the indicator of TvS?
I wouldn't call it an indicator, like scum *can* feel misinterpreted and push against it... It's just the way it feels to me and I don't really know how to expand on it, like I guess the scumreads feel real to me? I've definitely been in their positions before and tbh the only time it ever became a full on fight was when it was tvt anyway. maybe scum are just less inclined to push against a townie when they know theyre deliberately misinterpreting someone? but I don't think either of them are deliberately being obstinate in any way, if i'm somehow wrong about either of them im not even sure how indicative their reads actually would be of them being scum here but i actually feel oddly confident abt the gamestate so far, which is weird esp considering raybells and i haven't really synced up yet
Have you, like, actually read Open 569? I
absolutely
push when I feel slighted.
In post 212, Inferno390 wrote: In post 7, Conflict of Interest wrote:I'm going to tell you right now, just looking at this player list, there's a ton of hydras.
There's enough players in hydra slots to fill this game on it's own, plus 5 non-hydra slots. So I most definitely don't want to see a lot of lurking going on.
It is in everyone's best interests to claim whether or not you are a BP as soon as you post; failure to do so will most likely result in you being lynched day one.
MaryJoLisa
: Do you feel like you'll do better in this game, after completing micro 875? And do you have more experience with this setup than that game?
Typhon Jam
: What is your stance on signing posts on a hydra account? How do you feel about your first ever game? (
according to MaryJoLisa)
AzoriusSenate
: What is your favorite tactic to get reads on players? Have you ever played this setup before?
TeamWorldwide
: I'm not familiar with any of the heads of this hydra, what sort of mafia experience do you all have? I'd like an answer from each head if possible.
Hectic
: If you could answer the above question as well, that would be great. How do you feel your chances are this game?
Inferno390
: Do you play much mafia? The very very brief search I did on you turned up mish-mash and hosting stuff, but not much in the way of mafia games.
RadiantTroubadour
: I'd like for us to get on the same wavelength as soon as possible, so if you could just immediately send a mountain of stuff at me rather than spreading it over weeks, that would be great. I look forward to working with you if you're town.
Jingle
: Are you ready for more happy jingle memes from me this game? Also, please be town this game.
Gamma Emerald
: I really feel like I should know you, but I think you joined the site shortly before I site flaked. How do you feel about 'active' lurking?
I think I'm mainly concerned at the number of other players I need to be able to read for this micro game. I'm reasonably sure that we'll do fine, but I thought that in 875 as well and despite lynching scum d1 we still went to lylo before winning.
Also, screw Jingle for posting inb4 game start.
VOTE: Jingle
~tn5421
I would have not make the comment about not lurking. I probably also would not have been focused so hard on previous meta and experience. It feels very weird for an entrance post to double down on the experience of every other player in the game, and combined with the fact that he’s apparently worried about the number of players to read, comes across as an attempt to gauge the level of town that he is having to play against.
Other than that, it’s okay it terms of general thoughts, but there are a couple of points that give me pause. The whole “mind meld” thing with RC/Katy slot seems very weird and pockets, like I’ve mentioned before, and both the questions to Gamma and Azorius seem out of place.
I'm worried about needing to game solve, a worry that increased when Jingle pointed out his expectations and I doubled down when you pushed me because of it.
I don't play this setup much anymore, so idk if this is ideal, but.
Hardclaim: Not Tracker
Also, don't like
238 at ALL.
VOTE: AzoriusSenate
~tn
