Micro 887: the coaLITion [game over]

[Alchemist21]

HEAL: Alchemist, RC most awesomest, NC 39, Gamma Emerald, EspressoPatronum

That’s myself plus the 3 slots I believe to be the strongest slots coming into the game plus Espresso since I liked their entrance.

I think the Coalition should be the 5 strongest/Towniest players not just for the obvious reasons of the D1 wincon but also as a weak investigational tool if it fails - if the Coalition fails we know there’s a deep wolf in a group where we might not otherwise suspect scum to be.

[Alchemist21]

I don’t even know if throwing around lynch votes will be useful until the Coalition is decided on since we can’t lynch before the Coalition is decided.

[Alchemist21]

I promise if it fails I won’t immediately point fingers at your slot because I know how you feel about people lynching you just based on your reputation as a strong scum player.

[Alchemist21]

I was telling Nero that we need to keep an eye on nsg because if she posts, that hydra is more likely to be town. Apparently scum!nsg flakes, so I’m leaning town on RC/nsg hydra for now.

In my experience this is correct.

[Alchemist21]

It’s been a while since I played a game that had nsg in it so I don’t have a recent example, but unless you’ve got an example that shows the meta’s wrong it’s what I’m going with.

[Alchemist21]

@Alchemist
Got any reads yet?

Still think Espresso is Town. Pretty sure RCMA is Town.

I personally don’t love Gamma’s posts about LUV but I don’t think they’re really scummy.

[Alchemist21]

Universal Townread

[Alchemist21]

If I did change it I would just take out NC and Gamma. I’d rather wait until having names to replace them with before taking them out though.

RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

[Alchemist21]

Why would you take out NC and Gamma? Is it just the lack of a townread, or is there a more substantial reason?

Just the lack of a Townread.

[Alchemist21]

[...]
RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

I was hoping you'd have a bit more to substantiate the read at this point, as scum!nsg could very easily post more. What's your read on the RC head*?

*Note - I find it hard to read hydras. Is it better practice to split the read by head and consolidate later, or approach the read in a holistic manner from the outset?

12 seemed like a typical TownRC post to me but not definitely.

Most people go by reading individual heads if they knows one of the heads well.

[Alchemist21]

Fine.

HURT: NC 39, Gamma Emerald

[Alchemist21]

this game is the summation of everything I dislike about mafia and it doesn't help that the most universally healed slot is my top scumread.

Why are you scumreading EP?

[Alchemist21]

Ok why do you think Spangled is scum?

[Alchemist21]

[...]
RC reads was talked about earlier and it’s based on NSG actually posting.

I was hoping you'd have a bit more to substantiate the read at this point, as scum!nsg could very easily post more. What's your read on the RC head*?

*Note - I find it hard to read hydras. Is it better practice to split the read by head and consolidate later, or approach the read in a holistic manner from the outset?

12 seemed like a typical TownRC post to me but not definitely.

Most people go by reading individual heads if they knows one of the heads well.

since you seem to have experience with town!RC, what about 145 and 149?

Fine.

HURT: NC 39, Gamma Emerald

why those two in particular out of your starting 5?

His whole thought process on EP feels like Town RC.

2nd part has been answered in an earlier post.

[Alchemist21]

Alchemist: i see, thanks. what do you think of so many people townreading Spangled? do you agree/disagree?

I was actually a little surprised at how many were Townreading them when I checked the VC. They’re null to me.

[Alchemist21]

I don’t even know if throwing around lynch votes will be useful until the Coalition is decided on since we can’t lynch before the Coalition is decided.

i think it's still good go throw around votes to show who we suspect and intend to lynch after we decide on the coalition, it'll be useful later on as well when we look back at wagons and potential bussing

also we can still pressure scum with votes which is always good

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

weakest entrance thus far imo

Hectic do you still believe what you said about applying pressure with your votes? Do you think your LUV vote is still good?

[Alchemist21]

But do you agree with the thought process?

No. I have EP as Town.

[Alchemist21]

hi alch you scum?

Of course not.

[Alchemist21]

Don't like how Alchem is ignoring me as I think that often comes from scum.

You’ve asked me exactly one thing and in the very next post Gamma pointed out your question had been answered already.

happy scumday alchemist

-nsg

Thank you!

[Alchemist21]

VC 1.06 Coalitions: Hectic (5): EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Hectic, NC 39, RC most awesomest EspressoPatronum (3): EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Spangled Alchemist21 (3): Alchemist21, EspressoPatronum, RC most awesomest NC 39 (2): NC 39, RC most awesomest Gamma Emerald (2): Gamma Emerald, Spangled RC most awesomest (1): RC most awesomest Clemency (0): Lil Uzi Vert (0): Spangled (0): Lynch: Lil Uzi Vert (2): Hectic, Gamma Emerald Not Voting (7): RC most awesomest, EspressoPatronum, NC 39, Clemency, Lil Uzi Vert, Spangled, Alchemist21 With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-12 18:00:00).

didn't Espresso put me down as a heal?

I don’t even know if throwing around lynch votes will be useful until the Coalition is decided on since we can’t lynch before the Coalition is decided.

i think it's still good go throw around votes to show who we suspect and intend to lynch after we decide on the coalition, it'll be useful later on as well when we look back at wagons and potential bussing

also we can still pressure scum with votes which is always good

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

weakest entrance thus far imo

Hectic do you still believe what you said about applying pressure with your votes? Do you think your LUV vote is still good?

yes and probably not, if he's not currently reading the thread

VOTE: Spangled

I have to say you’ve been pinging me this whole game. What makes Spangled a good vote in your eyes? How come you seemingly forgot about voting for anyone else this whole time?

[Alchemist21]

You’ve asked me exactly one thing and in the very next post Gamma pointed out your question had been answered already.

fair point I guess although you were plenty of capable of expanding on why you didn't have a town read on us and we are close to DL so isn't about time to start sharing your view of the gamestate?

How do I expand on a nullread? I can’t.

[Alchemist21]

Spoiler:

VC 1.06 Coalitions: Hectic (5): EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Hectic, NC 39, RC most awesomest EspressoPatronum (3): EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Spangled Alchemist21 (3): Alchemist21, EspressoPatronum, RC most awesomest NC 39 (2): NC 39, RC most awesomest Gamma Emerald (2): Gamma Emerald, Spangled RC most awesomest (1): RC most awesomest Clemency (0): Lil Uzi Vert (0): Spangled (0): Lynch: Lil Uzi Vert (2): Hectic, Gamma Emerald Not Voting (7): RC most awesomest, EspressoPatronum, NC 39, Clemency, Lil Uzi Vert, Spangled, Alchemist21 With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-12 18:00:00).

didn't Espresso put me down as a heal?

I don’t even know if throwing around lynch votes will be useful until the Coalition is decided on since we can’t lynch before the Coalition is decided.

i think it's still good go throw around votes to show who we suspect and intend to lynch after we decide on the coalition, it'll be useful later on as well when we look back at wagons and potential bussing

also we can still pressure scum with votes which is always good

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

weakest entrance thus far imo

Hectic do you still believe what you said about applying pressure with your votes? Do you think your LUV vote is still good?

yes and probably not, if he's not currently reading the thread

VOTE: Spangled

I have to say you’ve been pinging me this whole game. What makes Spangled a good vote in your eyes? How come you seemingly forgot about voting for anyone else this whole time?

I'll help jumpstart the information requested above. Can you give us more on your Hectic ping? You said he's been pinging you all game but you pointed to two recent developments. Can you tell us some of the early things Hectic did that pinged you?

It was mainly his tone at first. It sounded like he was constructing his posts to sound good; formal is too strong of a word for what his tone was but it didn’t seem casual and relaxed to me. Looking at his completed Newbie game though it seems that’s just the way they post but I still couldn’t shake the vibe and since he was the one who initially advocated for pressure votes it makes me wonder why we haven’t seen much of him actually doing that.

[Alchemist21]

Hey Hectic, what's your coalition read on Gamma? If you were to remove him, who would you replace him with?

i think my read is RCMA>Espresso>Spangled>NC 39>Gamma>Clemency/LUV>Alchemist

i know people will question my Alchemist vote, more of a gutread than anything, i'll go looking for actual reasons tomorrow, it's way too late right now

Your read on me seems like pure OMGUS to me.

[Alchemist21]

I could probably have a good read on NC 39 if I knew which head made which posts.

[Alchemist21]

@Alchemist, I was feeling nauseous earlier, so this is my first post today. This is Nancy btw, if that helps.

I hope you feel better, and yes it helps. The earlier interaction feels a little less weird knowing it came from Nero.

[Alchemist21]

Gamma, actually, doesn’t really feel the same to me as the last game we were in; tonally they actually feel a bit weirdly different from how I remember them.

Want mr to talk about this, because I can def talk about it and explain what is different

Well I was a cop that game and that affected how I played in that game. I'm not here. Like you saw Persivul poking me for bring different, he was right even though he was scum.

Gamma let’s talk about this. If being a Cop changed your tone in that other game why would your tone be similar to your Cop play here when everyone is Vanilla?

[Alchemist21]

these reads are fine but it feels like you're trying too hard to keep a neutral stance on LUV's alignment

That post was entirely about Gamma.

[Alchemist21]

Oh, that makes sense. My bad.

[Alchemist21]

Alchemist: i see, thanks. what do you think of so many people townreading Spangled? do you agree/disagree?

I was actually a little surprised at how many were Townreading them when I checked the VC. They’re null to me.

Do you have any kind of read on me now?
What about Hectic?

You’re still null to me. I don’t trust your self-meta to pin you down as Town. It might help me if you tell me why you think Great is Towny. I don’t want Great in the Coalition and I have a reason for it but I want to hear your reason for including them first.

Hectic’s still a scumread.

[Alchemist21]

sky give extension

-nsg

This plz
The short deadline kinda makes forming a decent coalition hard. Even if we just get an extended D1 deadline I'll be happy

The bitching about the deadline is annoying. The coalition is not isn’t the be all end all. I’d be pissed as scum right now if Sky granted this.

LUV is still scum.

RC is town.

HURT: LUV

HEAL: RC

not a big fan of Gamma randomly trying to apply pressure to me.

Don't like how Alchem is ignoring me as I think that often comes from scum.

And still, dislike Spangled.

but thats too many scum reads. So I'm wrong on 2 of those 4.

HEAL: RC most awesomest, Hectic, EspressoPatronum, NC 39 is a rock-solid coalition but I'm hesitant to add Clemency as some of his posts pinged me earlier.

So basically, who are the other town between Clem, Gamma, Alchem, and Spangled and I guess LUV in case I'm wrong but I don't think I am?

Nancy you can’t read me and Nero you always scum read me. I’m not scum here and I think if I was I would probably be a lot more active and playing like EP.

VOTE: EspressoPatronum

LUV can you elaborate on your EP read?

[Alchemist21]

I can see your points on Great pushing against status quo a bit. However I think there’s too much wifom on their rep-in remarks about Clemency. Clemency doing what even he says he does as scum could be null because real life stuff happens but it certainly shouldn’t be a good sign that he’s Town to anyone. And they might not have hard pushed the idea but they are the one who introduced the idea and it comes off as a bit LAMIST for their slot and there’s just no way I can trust it enough for a Coalition vote.

Spoiler: Hectic stuff

Spoiler:

VC 1.06 Coalitions: Hectic (5): EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Hectic, NC 39, RC most awesomest EspressoPatronum (3): EspressoPatronum, Gamma Emerald, Spangled Alchemist21 (3): Alchemist21, EspressoPatronum, RC most awesomest NC 39 (2): NC 39, RC most awesomest Gamma Emerald (2): Gamma Emerald, Spangled RC most awesomest (1): RC most awesomest Clemency (0): Lil Uzi Vert (0): Spangled (0): Lynch: Lil Uzi Vert (2): Hectic, Gamma Emerald Not Voting (7): RC most awesomest, EspressoPatronum, NC 39, Clemency, Lil Uzi Vert, Spangled, Alchemist21 With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority. Day one ends in (expired on 2019-09-12 18:00:00).

didn't Espresso put me down as a heal?

I don’t even know if throwing around lynch votes will be useful until the Coalition is decided on since we can’t lynch before the Coalition is decided.

i think it's still good go throw around votes to show who we suspect and intend to lynch after we decide on the coalition, it'll be useful later on as well when we look back at wagons and potential bussing

also we can still pressure scum with votes which is always good

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

weakest entrance thus far imo

Hectic do you still believe what you said about applying pressure with your votes? Do you think your LUV vote is still good?

yes and probably not, if he's not currently reading the thread

VOTE: Spangled

I have to say you’ve been pinging me this whole game. What makes Spangled a good vote in your eyes? How come you seemingly forgot about voting for anyone else this whole time?

I'll help jumpstart the information requested above. Can you give us more on your Hectic ping? You said he's been pinging you all game but you pointed to two recent developments. Can you tell us some of the early things Hectic did that pinged you?

It was mainly his tone at first. It sounded like he was constructing his posts to sound good; formal is too strong of a word for what his tone was but it didn’t seem casual and relaxed to me. Looking at his completed Newbie game though it seems that’s just the way they post but I still couldn’t shake the vibe and since he was the one who initially advocated for pressure votes it makes me wonder why we haven’t seen much of him actually doing that.

[Alchemist21]

Idk how I messed up the spoiler tags. That first paragraph outside the spoiler isn’t even mine, just the second one.

[Alchemist21]

If it’s already well-known he would.

[Alchemist21]

The more it went on the more it seemed to me that NC 39/Gamma interaction was T/S. Gamma being willing to reconsider makes them look better but at this point I think I’m pretty confident in calling NC 39 Town.

HEAL: NC 39

[Alchemist21]

I’m also warming up to Spangled. They’ll probably end up as my 5th Coalition vote.

[Alchemist21]

Lmao.

“If Alchemist is Townreading anyone it’s appeasement you guys.”

Fuck outta here with that bs. You’re coming up with any reason to scumread me because you don’t like that I’m scumreading you.

[Alchemist21]

Lmao.

“If Alchemist is Townreading anyone it’s appeasement you guys.”

Fuck outta here with that bs. You’re coming up with any reason to scumread me because you don’t like that I’m scumreading you.

if people want me to paint an Alchemist!scum that i don't actually believe, i can do that though

Last line in his post has him saying he’s convincing himself. He’s going OMGUS here.

Also, that was a really Towny post from LUV imo. I don’t agree with his EP read but his defense is in-line with the posts he’s made since his entrance and I think that really is the sentiment disengaged Town would have here.

[Alchemist21]

Alch who's your fifth btw? I did a quick check and I think you're at Alch, RCMA, NC and EP.

I don’t have an official 5th yet. It’s going to be either Spangled or Luv.

[Alchemist21]

The more it went on the more it seemed to me that NC 39/Gamma interaction was T/S. Gamma being willing to reconsider makes them look better but at this point I think I’m pretty confident in calling NC 39 Town.

HEAL: NC 39

Can you talk about this, Alchemist?
You say that NC 39/Gamma is t/s, but then that Gamma is looking better, but then that NC 39 is town? I don’t know about you, but that seems like a contradiction in terms. Am I missing something here?

It did look like Gamma was misrepping NC 39’s posts. I think the fact that Gamma backed off is a good look and could be Town willing to reconsider but it is possible that it was scum backing off because they realized it wasn’t doing anything but making themselves look worse.

And when I said Gamma is looking better I meant better than they were, not better than NC 39.

[Alchemist21]

The more it went on the more it seemed to me that NC 39/Gamma interaction was T/S. Gamma being willing to reconsider makes them look better but at this point I think I’m pretty confident in calling NC 39 Town.

HEAL: NC 39

Can you talk about this, Alchemist?
You say that NC 39/Gamma is t/s, but then that Gamma is looking better, but then that NC 39 is town? I don’t know about you, but that seems like a contradiction in terms. Am I missing something here?

It did look like Gamma was misrepping NC 39’s posts. I think the fact that Gamma backed off is a good look and could be Town willing to reconsider but it is possible that it was scum backing off because they realized it wasn’t doing anything but making themselves look worse.

And when I said Gamma is looking better I meant better than they were, not better than NC 39.

How are you currently reading GREAT, LUV? Tbf, GREAT hasn’t been online, since Gamma re-evaluation but I definitely thought it strange that LUV completely ignored it.

Great is null but I still don’t trust the wifom of their entrance.

I just made a post saying I’m Townreading LUV.

[Alchemist21]

The more it went on the more it seemed to me that NC 39/Gamma interaction was T/S. Gamma being willing to reconsider makes them look better but at this point I think I’m pretty confident in calling NC 39 Town.

HEAL: NC 39

Can you talk about this, Alchemist?
You say that NC 39/Gamma is t/s, but then that Gamma is looking better, but then that NC 39 is town? I don’t know about you, but that seems like a contradiction in terms. Am I missing something here?

It did look like Gamma was misrepping NC 39’s posts. I think the fact that Gamma backed off is a good look and could be Town willing to reconsider but it is possible that it was scum backing off because they realized it wasn’t doing anything but making themselves look worse.

And when I said Gamma is looking better I meant better than they were, not better than NC 39.

How are you currently reading GREAT, LUV? Tbf, GREAT hasn’t been online, since Gamma re-evaluation but I definitely thought it strange that LUV completely ignored it.

Great is null but I still don’t trust the wifom of their entrance.

I just made a post saying I’m Townreading LUV.

Yes, I realize. I just don’t understand their read progression on either me or Gamma and why he didn’t comment on his re-evaluation. How familiar are you with his play? The only game I was in with him, he didn’t post too much and repped out early iirc. He did come across as very natural, so I should probably take another look at his ISO.

How familiar am I with LUV’s play? I’ve played with him a few times I don’t have much of an impression of it.

[Alchemist21]

@LUV You really need to start making some Coalition votes. You might not like the setup but mechanically it takes priority over the lynch.

[Alchemist21]

so i think i have about 5 people to fill 4 spots in my coalition so basically i need to exclude one person

luv, espresso, gamma, alchemist, youaregreat

haven't really put in the effort to read nancy at all this game and it might be too late to do that (or thats just an excuse for me being lazy)

hopefully at most only one scum is in that group or i shall look Foolish

anyways i guess right now i lean towards excluding youaregreat. maybe i should reread alchemist

-nsg

Look, if you’re cool taking Alch out of there, I can get behind that coalition.

This is the coalition that we’re doing, I think — I am not cool adding Alch in.
HURT: EspressoPatronum, NC 39, RC most awesomest, Spangled, YOUAREGREAT
HEAL: luv, espresso, gamma, alchemist, youaregreat
Let’s go; we gotta get it moving.

Why are you putting in all 5 of those names when NSG was trying to figure out which one to exclude? They’re not going to exclude themselves and it’s weird you’re excluding both yourself and the player’s list you’re copying but including a guy you’re not cool with adding. It just doesn’t make sense.

[Alchemist21]

HEAL: LUV

[Alchemist21]

@NSG our coalitions are almost the same except you have Gamma and I have NC 39.

Is there a reason you exclude NC? Any reason I should reconsider on Gamma?

P-edit: So far I’ve only seen the meta that that Gamma is only willing to reconsider as Town but I don’t think that’s very strong meta and given their earlier interactions I would pick NC over Gamma every time unless someone gives a really strong reason to do otherwise.

[Alchemist21]

something to consider is that nc39's coalition is more different to yours than mine is—and is unlikely, in my opinion, to change very quickly. if you were to heal nc39, you would not necessarily be able to rely on nc39 reciprocating by also sharing your coalition.

gamma, on the other hand, still has an open coalition. (

@gamma

)

basically, even if you consider the two options relatively equal in terms of reads, the quicker path to a compromise is by healing gamma.

-nsg

That first part isn’t true. If you take out Spangled and put in LUV then NC 39’s Coalition is exactly like mine, which means they are also only one away from your Coalition too.

[Alchemist21]

NC 39 (5): Alchemist21, EspressoPatronum, NC 39, RC most awesomest, Spangled

Correction - 2 away from yours, one away from mine

[Alchemist21]

alchemist, if you were scum in this setup do you think you would townread your partner or scumread them

-nsg

Given how I was out of everyone else’s Coalition until now I would have been Townreading them. In this setup scum have to make sure one of them is in the Coalition, so if I were scum with nobody putting me in their Coalition I would need to help my buddy get in instead. Scumreading them would be a bit counterproductive to that goal.

[Alchemist21]

HURT: alchemist
HEAL: nc39

What’s the reason for this swap?

[Alchemist21]

@nsg I trust Hectic to help make the coalition happen, so I'm counting him as a 4th vote to back this coalition.

Nobody should ever be putting Hectic in their Coalition.

[Alchemist21]

I’m only doing this because of deadline pressure. Y’all better be right about Gamma.

HURT: Alchemist21

HEAL: Gamma

[Alchemist21]

@nsg I trust Hectic to help make the coalition happen, so I'm counting him as a 4th vote to back this coalition.

Also you should not trust this. The rest of the votes should come from the members of the Coalition.

The way it’s going, if this is a winning Coalition then the scumteam has to be Hectic/Great and you should not be trusting either to vote it in.

[Alchemist21]

The currently proposed names are RC, NC 39, LUV, Espresso, and Gamma.

[Alchemist21]

And NOW we have a problem.

3 people outside of the Coalition voting for it is a red flag.

HURT: Gamma

HEAL: Alchemist21

[Alchemist21]

And NOW we have a problem.

3 people outside of the Coalition voting for it is a red flag.

HURT: Gamma

HEAL: Alchemist21

Who’s the 3rd?

Spangled

[Alchemist21]

And NOW we have a problem.

3 people outside of the Coalition voting for it is a red flag.

HURT: Gamma

HEAL: Alchemist21

huh now this feels like an overreaction considering i said i'm just voting this temporarily in case people think i wouldn't come online in time to vote one through

better to try a coalition than none at all

Alchemist using this as reasoning for trying to slip himself in?

anyway got some time so catchup begins now

I was already in it before people started putting in Gamma.

I took myself out to add Gamma because of deadline.

And it’s simple logic that if 3 people outside the Coalition are ok with it then scum is in the Coalition.

[Alchemist21]

Maybe that’s tinfoil but it’s the less-likely option.

Frankly it was a mistake to take myself out of the Coalition vote in the first place.

[Alchemist21]

And NOW we have a problem.

3 people outside of the Coalition voting for it is a red flag.

HURT: Gamma

HEAL: Alchemist21

Who’s the 3rd?

Spangled

Spangled has GREAT in his. It isn't the same.

m

Oh, whoops. Thought he had completely aligned his with the others.

That makes me feel a bit better about compromising again.

[Alchemist21]

HURT: Alchemist

HEAL: Gamma

This is driving me nuts.

[Alchemist21]

I believe that’s a hammer (RC, NC39, Espresso, Hectic, and myself all voted for it).

Unless I’m wrong again.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Alchemist21]

I’m taking post 700. Deal with it.

[Alchemist21]

Ffs Hectic who could I be scum with at this point?

[Alchemist21]

Are you asking Hectic or me?

[Alchemist21]

Ffs Hectic who could I be scum with at this point?

anyone on the coalition that didn't want you on?

There’s absolutely nobody on the Coalition I could be scum with. I would not be agonizing over the decision to compromise on my own inclusion if I had my buddy in it that already guaranteed its failure. My only logical partner there would be Gamma, and that’s who I’m trying to lynch!

[Alchemist21]

We're down to 8 hours. My vote is on LUV, but I could go for Gamma as well.

I will check in occasionally over the next few hours + will swap my vote as needed to achieve a lynch.

Same. It’s really so frustrating with so many non-active players. I don’t know why some people even sign up for these games.

@Sky, is it possible to prod LUV and YOUAREGREAT?

You need to place a vote.

[Alchemist21]

Sheep that vote if you want to lose.

[Alchemist21]

@NC What are your reads looking like right now?

[Alchemist21]

First link was from scum!Alchemist in PFUPs. I was in Avengers hydra.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79422&user_select%5B%5D=24636

Scum!Alchemist from Starcraft 2. I was one of the Powerpuff girls.

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=77824&user_select%5B%5D=24636

Town!Alchemist in Overkill 2.

You linked the wrong Starcraft game. I was Town in the one you linked.

THIS is the Starcraft game where I was scum: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78296

[Alchemist21]

I actually have reacted to your read on me.

In fact when you voted me out of the Coalition and voted NC in I asked why and never got an answer. So, yeah.

[Alchemist21]

And that still doesn’t explain where your read came from initially.

[Alchemist21]

But based on both yours and NSG’s meta I’m pretty sure you’re Town. I don’t feel a need to deal with you as if you’re scum because it’s still just not a possibility in my mind.

P-edit: No, no. Who could I have distanced from? Gamma, Great, Hectic. That’s pretty much it. 2 of those are impossible as my partner and the 3rd I still want lynched.

[Alchemist21]

I've never heard you argue for a meta townread on me, ever.

Because I’ve never needed to argue that you were Town before. In all our games together it’s always been obvious when you were Town. Your confidence in your ability to do well as Town always comes through in your posts in a way that it just doesn’t as scum.

[Alchemist21]

What? I’m not gonna call you scum if I don’t think you’re scum.

[Alchemist21]

He’s wrong this time too.

I could compromise on LUV if Gamma isn’t going to happen.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: LUV

[Alchemist21]

I don't need to win this game to prove the point that I want to make.

I'm just waiting for it to be over.

Then do us all a favour and sub out.

You’re not supposed to make posts like this. Site rules.

[Alchemist21]

Even Alchemist himself would verify that.

And given that he should be a little concerned with me scumreading him.

But he's not, he's just kinda rushing to get a lynch that's not him through

Can verify.

You’re not the first to formerly have a 100% accuracy rate on me. Ask Gamma. Everyone gets it wrong at some point or another.

8 hours left tho.

[Alchemist21]

Even Alchemist himself would verify that.

And given that he should be a little concerned with me scumreading him.

But he's not, he's just kinda rushing to get a lynch that's not him through

Can verify.

You’re not the first to formerly have a 100% accuracy rate on me. Ask Gamma. Everyone gets it wrong at some point or another.

8 hours left tho.

Why aren’t you more concerned with RC sr you?

I’ve already answered this yesterday.

[Alchemist21]

I think that the odds of Gamma/Alch overwhelm the odds of any other scumteam.

I am willing to move onto Gamma to test this.

I think that the odds of Gamma/Alch overwhelm the odds of any other scumteam.

I agree with this.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Alchemist

Kill 2 birds with one stone this way.

How come nobody voted Gamma then? I mean I get why RC didn’t but not you two.

[Alchemist21]

At some point I think my give-a-damn broke.

If I were scum I would be flailing a lot more to avoid a D1 lynch.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: Gamma

[Alchemist21]

Good game everyone