Micro 905: High Noon (GAME TERMINATED)

[Fishy Logic]

Alrighty then

VOTE: Not_Mafia
-L

[Fishy Logic]

Right now I kinda want to flip QC in this duel because it'd be funny if they were scum

I don't like 11

Cool. Wanna talk about it or are you good just taking pot shots at us from the sidelines?

Felt to me like what someone might post if they didn't really care about Not Mafias alignment

Uhh...

post 11 was a vote on NM after he called out the duel. We have 2 choices in this situation, and we placed our vote on the person who if town has a low chance of picking scum correctly (you know before they even posted in the game to boot), and has a higher than rand scum equity to pull this shit right off the bat because everyone will defend him by saying NM is just a troll and this is TWTBAW and we should lynch the guy who still hasnt spoken...

also we literally lose a mislynch if we NL, that's never happening. it's you or NM.

How do we lose a mislynch?

[Fishy Logic]

-f

[Fishy Logic]

I'll stick with the "pot shots", thanks. I'm more interested in what other people have to say about it and how they feel about my impression than I am in arguing with you about it

Throw shade for no reason, avoid direct confrontations, got it.

Was our vote the first one made after the duel was called?

[Fishy Logic]

works for me

VOTE: Quantifiable Conundrum

Alrighty then

VOTE: Not_Mafia
-L

I guess I expected too much of town for thinking they wouldn’t do this.

VOTE: not_mafia

3 votes, all pretty much alike from a glance, yet ours gets called out, and you dont want to talk to us about it, its weird.

[Fishy Logic]

If anything Amruns post makes it seem like they know NM is oging to flip town, but then votes there anyways.

We think that NM has a high scum equity as a result of this play, and if he flips scum we are following what RC said and killing QT

-F

[Fishy Logic]

Throw shade for no reason, avoid direct confrontations, got it.

There was a reason. And I'll directly confront you on my terms when I have things I think are worth confronting about

Was our vote the first one made after the duel was called?

No and that seems irrelevant

I wasn't pinged by the other votes

Yeah, you probably wont like me this game then. Im not a huge fan of dealing with things on other peoples terms. Especially when that person is making baseless accusations and distracting from what we really should be talking about here and thats what we are doing about the current duel, and not why you think our vote was scummy.

[Fishy Logic]

What is different from our vote and Amruns vote?

What did you like about Danns first vote and then his vote on NM?

Like you saying that you didnt get pinged by the other votes is wow...

[Fishy Logic]

GL dont condescend to us please, we are a hydra, not a newb.

I see that we are just going to have a different view of the game and thats fine. Your read is wrong though, so while you have an idea of what we are, your incorrect ping on us makes me wonder if you are town who has a shit read, or scum who is making a push on us because we voted your buddy after he dueled in his first post.

[Fishy Logic]

FF? Who's this wonderful sounding person you speak of? Here we have Fishy and we have Logic. Together we create fishy logic.

I will try to sign with an F and my partner will probably be better about signing their posts with an L than I will be. If its an unsigned post, you can assume it was me, F and not L.

-F

[Fishy Logic]

Ok boomer

[Fishy Logic]

It's possible that correct play is simply to quicklynch NM for it because allowing scum In a good position to force duels with townies to keep weak scum alive increases scum equity a lot

How would scum!NM be in a good position here?

And QC, do you have a read on NM?

-L

[Fishy Logic]

I read him as town because this move doesn't make sense for scum. If I lose,

he probably gets killed

and he just really hurt scum.

Doesn't this by same logic mean that that move makes no sense for Town either?

-L

[Fishy Logic]

NM should be dead by now because we don't lose anything if he dies other than a chance to lynch someone who hasn't done anything.
I don't see what scummy things I've done other than...prod dodge at the very beginning of the game? Which I think is pretty fair since you don't exactly know when the timer will start running.
I just used the quick reply at the bottom, I didn't read the thread at all
I guess I can give my reads elsewhere if people want, but I've been preoccupied with this duel. I think that's pretty understandable.

What's up with you getting so defensive here? It was said that lynching NM is the correct play but that there's no rush.
And can you answer 128?

-L

[Fishy Logic]

also getting scumpings on eth0s

RC can be scum, but I dont feel like dealing with that right now.

what was the point of posting this exactly?

-L

[Fishy Logic]

Why would I try and lynch Amrun when FishyLogic is scum?

ok boomer

-L

[Fishy Logic]

to tell you that I think RC can be scum but I don't feel like dealing with it right now

Now that RC is mad and wants to gamethrow I don't want to play anymore. I say we policy him if he goes through with it.

Oh cool, sew paranoia around RC without giving any actual reasoning?

-L

[Fishy Logic]

actually fishy logic's posting is really bad and consistent with what I know from scum!FF so I'm getting scumpings there, too.

For the record I'm totally cool with policy'ing NM in this duel

It's the mass shading that I am referring to in regards to FF. Although more of it came from logic than I thought, so I don't know how strongly I feel about that yet.

I was about to comment. I'm not FF.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

I also think it's a little disingenuous for eth0s to suggest that my 26 or Dann's 10 are valid pieces of evidence for his "scum are shading QC because of his bad replies" theory

I understand why you feel this way but it doesn't change how I feel.

Do you think NM also falls within the "scum that are shading QC"? You quoted three of his posts in 168.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

Quantifiable Conundrum (L-4)

: noone

Not_Mafia (L-2)

: Fishy Logic, Amrun

RadiantCowbells, GuiltyLion, Dannflor, Lovebird, eth0s

Yoink.
-L

[Fishy Logic]

If that's what you want to call it, sure

I was trying to ask you about it, but it's cool.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

Then why the fuck even bring it up in the first place?

-L

[Fishy Logic]

Hey RC, don't worry, as soon as this duel is completed we will either duel NM if he's alive or Ethos if NM is off this mortal coil already.

[Fishy Logic]

-F

[Fishy Logic]

Lol. Okay fish is actually conf!scum. You tried to shade RC earlier and now you're taking his side til I flip town. Beautiful.

Well this game is gonna be a shitshow. Have fun guys.

Where did I shade RC?

And my partner and I have been talking about how you look like scum like you were in another game we read recently. So we aren't taking RCs side, we came up with our own read on you and are letting RC know that he's not alone here and to not give up.

Why would scum me being RC back to the table after he just said his interest in the game is nosediving?

Yeah, not sure how that happened...

[Fishy Logic]

Lol. Okay fish is actually conf!scum. You tried to shade RC earlier and now you're taking his side til I flip town. Beautiful.

Well this game is gonna be a shitshow. Have fun guys.

Where did I shade RC?

And my partner and I have been talking about how you look like scum like you were in another game we read recently. So we aren't taking RCs side, we came up with our own read on you and are letting RC know that he's not alone here and to not give up.

Why would scum me being RC back to the table after he just said his interest in the game is nosediving?

Wanna point out the game? Because I have no idea what you're talking about. Pretty convenient that you think I'm acting like I did in a recent scumgame when i just said the same thing about you. And I'm talking about newbie 1962.

1963 and I would love to know how my posting here has been anything like 1962.

[Fishy Logic]

also we literally lose a mislynch if we NL, that's never happening. it's you or NM.

How do we lose a mislynch?

In what fucking world is that me trying to shade RC?

[Fishy Logic]

-F

[Fishy Logic]

Okay I'm hard town reading qc now.

Care to share?
-L

[Fishy Logic]

I'm trying to contribute to the broader game, but I'm a bit preoccupied with the duel.

Why is the duel stopping you from contributing? The consensus is that NM is going to die here, he's at L-1, and I'm pretty sure he dies first even if you scumclaim here.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

I don't feel like your slot has been interacting with me in good faith so

I mean, you accuse us of shading RC for ~asking him a question about mechanics~, but ok.
-L

[Fishy Logic]

didn't you similarly "poke the bear" with 153?

I feel FL was trying to stir shit between eth0s and RC

with their 182 and 196 so I woulda preferred them as lynch option but I guess in this 1v1 I'm currently leaning towards voting eth0s as I think RC does have a valid point about the "policy lynch" phrasing

however at the same time I don't really agree with 253 bc I think QC's page 9 was townie and I could envision a town!eth0s townreading them after that

Nope, I was trying to stir shit between eth0s and myself, because I do not think that 153 comes in good faith, especially since he refused to elaborate. And then refused to elaborate on his super strong QC TR.

Is there any other reason you TR/TL eth0s?

-L

[Fishy Logic]

not especially strong ones - 189 felt kinda honest to me as well in the way he expressed that he wasn't townreading QC as much as he implied

I think your push on him would look infinitely better if he flips scum (stating the obvious I guess) cause on one hand I do get it, but if he's town then that throwaway RC comment is easy to Make A Huge Deal Out Of when I'm not sure that it really warranted that

Really? 189 made me think of scum busyworking to produce ~content~.

Saying "X might be scum but I don't wanna deal with it right now" then still stating you don't wanna deal with it when asked but you /wanted/ everyone to know that does nothing but sew doubt about X that's later gonna be real easy to invoke. And esp knowng X is RC. It feels like a scummy move. And then trying to discredit us when we sided with RC saying we were shading him earlier.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

Groovy, we need 2 more then.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

I don't feel like your slot has been interacting with me in good faith so

What does this even mean? How have we not been acting in good faith? You made an accusation and we questioned it and then you explained it, then I questioned you based on a very recent scum game you played and you act like a baby.

So... I guess I dont actually give a fuck what your answer is because its just going to be more bullshit.

[Fishy Logic]

GL/Eth0s?

Ethos for sure needs to die, L has been liking GL more in our discord chat, I havent had a chance to look at what the reasoning is yet, but I trust the read.

[Fishy Logic]

I don't even think FL is scum anymore

You shouldnt have thought it in the first place, but im willing to forgive you as long as this doesnt turn into a baton situation. We clear on that?

-F (these have all been me, i suck at signing)

[Fishy Logic]

He dueled me because he's emotional and has a problem with me. So yeah, I do think that. I think that me/you as a team makes zero fucking sense and he has already tried to blame ME if town loses because that's what mr. ego has to do every time he gets mad and does dumb shit

I already said that in NM lived we would duel him and if he died we were going to come after you. So you can stop with all the ate about RC having an issue with you because you were going to die today anyways.

[Fishy Logic]

VOTE: Ethos

[Fishy Logic]

I regret hammering NM out of frustration

Don't. He just would have dueled us and we'd have lost town to that as well.

[Fishy Logic]

Anyone around and wanna chat?

-F

[Fishy Logic]

Ethos, if you're Town here, why would you be so refusing to acknowledge that you've done things that could warrant a SR?
-L

[Fishy Logic]

Someone put this guy out of his misery, shit.

-F

[Fishy Logic]

I was gonna look through your and mine ISO's and point out some stuff but if you're gonna be acting like that then I'll just chill until some good soul comes along and hammers.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

He's a magic pirate

John Titor?

I didn't have anything to say, but now I think ethos is scum

@Lovebird, why did that post from eth0s ping you? I got the opposite impression tbh

I think, his attitude showed he didn't care about solving in his earlier posts.

This is your entire iso. Do you wanna come play the game you signed up to play? It's already in progress, maybe you didn't get the pm, who knows?

Love to know what you are doing and where your head is at.

[Fishy Logic]

-F

[Fishy Logic]

RC started game throwing on page 6.
VOTE: RC.
I don't like doing it, but it's half policy lynch (open game throwing) and half my best solve being RC/Lovebird.

You know what? Fuck it. UNVOTE: . You two work it out. This is TvT driven by emotion and I don't want to participate further. I will be willing to hammer tomorrow if we're at an impasse.

How did RC go from being half of your "best solve" to you being confident he's Town?

And you're miscounting.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

Oh, you also hadn't answered 289. Would bw lovely to actually hear your thought processes here.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

holy shit two absolutely terrible duels in a row I hate this

I’ll be returning to this game tomorrow if all goes well

Soo... Have you been keeping up with the thread while vla and just not posting or what?

You mentioned you'd been sick, but know about the current game state. You could have given your opinion of the duel targets instead of just mentioning the duels themselves. I know you're ill, but you posted, so why not post content instead of a glorified prodge?

[Fishy Logic]

I thought that was implied by saying it was a terrible duel

If you aren't caught up how do you know the duels are terrible?

Alright. That's it. No more phone posting from me.

[Fishy Logic]

I intend to hammer eth0s but I'd like to make QC take some hard stances first

I agree with this sentiment.

You know what? Fuck it. UNVOTE: . You two work it out. This is TvT driven by emotion and I don't want to participate further. I will be willing to hammer tomorrow if we're at an impasse.

This post is icky as fuck. "This is tvt but I'll hammer whoever while extracting myself from any discussion that might lock me into certain reads that I can't easily shake later on. Yeah, I'll give no indication of where my head is at an just say I'll hammer when it comes to that and no one will suspect me... That'll get them on my side."

[Fishy Logic]

I don't care about that post. I don't see why someone having a slight TR on me (

which he clarifies later,

which makes me think you're super behind on the game

Where did this exactly happen? And he was hard TRing you.

And I was saying that you first indirectly called RC scum (by him being a part of your best solve) and gamethrowing, refused to explain either, then got to "emotional charged TvT" without explaing what exactly changed your mind there either.

-L

[Fishy Logic]

The fact that no one seems to be trying to lynch me here doesn't give me the best feelings about how this day is going to end

You getting nked?

[Fishy Logic]

289 ain't even a post from eth0s lul

and if you thought RC was scum forcing a duel on a Townie, fine, fair game. But then how is that gamethrowing from scum!RC's part, especially if he's confident he's winning the duel?

-L

[Fishy Logic]

I don't care about that post. I don't see why someone having a slight TR on me (

which he clarifies later,

which makes me think you're super behind on the game

Where did this exactly happen? And he was hard TRing you.

And I was saying that you first indirectly called RC scum (by him being a part of your best solve) and gamethrowing, refused to explain either, then got to "emotional charged TvT" without explaing what exactly changed your mind there either.

-L

It happened in 289 IIRC. He later flipped back to a hard read, but I'm not reading much into it, since I think it was just a way to encourage people to end the first duel (there, you got a reaction Dannflor.)
I stand by my assertion that this duel is anti town, and that he is probably town, which does make it game throwing. I initially thought that he must be scum because he started a duel against another player that I think is town.
My move back to where I am now came from me rereading their interactions. My attention was focused elsewhere.

Why didn't you accuse NM of gamethrowing when he dueled you in his first post. He ended up being town and you seem to believe you are town, so why just RC?

[Fishy Logic]

Can one of the people scum reading Fishy Logic succinctly case why?

And could we get this while you're still with us?
-L

[Fishy Logic]

oh shit it's actually FL amrun team lol!

[Fishy Logic]

No votes fo far.

An actual productive duel between me and FL could have happened, but no, you wanted this because you knew exactly how it would play out. and I'm not going to effort for a duel that I lose from the beginning. Your duel was nothing more than a fuck you, and if it wasn't then you would've been fine with letting me and FL duel since it was objectively better in every way

This makes it seem like you think that RC is powerscum dueling you to what... protect us from dueling you?

-F

[Fishy Logic]

Hey Ethos, im making a sandwich. You want anything for a last meal?

-F

[Fishy Logic]

If the mod comes in and flips ethos there's a cookie in it for them. Ethos, you don't get cookies.

[Fishy Logic]

Jeez can you just die already? Either you're flipping scum and all this ate and braggadocios attitude from you is just for show or you're town and you'll join NM in the dead thread where you'll both commiserate with each other about how off your reads were when you get spoiled.

So I'mma eat the cookie right outside your cell while we wait for the excecutioner to give you the sweet release of death.

See you on the other side.

-F

[Fishy Logic]

Can one of the people scum reading Fishy Logic succinctly case why?

And could we get this while you're still with us?
-L

Yawn
-L

[Fishy Logic]

And my cookies are what really brings people to the yard. Everyone loves my cookies. Everyone ethos. Everyone.

Every.

One.

-F

Pedit- partner, ethos isn't interested in playing cause he ded. Might as well troll him...

[Fishy Logic]

Can we go back in time and get a prod on LB yesterday? Asking for a friend...

-F

[Fishy Logic]

You could always explain the scumread you have on us, like Dann asked you to do and then we cosigned on because we'd love to hear how you spin this tale. So regale us with your stories and see if your spirit moves on to valhalla or hel.

[Fishy Logic]

FL I also see where their mindset is at but it keeps pinging me at times that they're arguing for the sake of arguing rather than really focusing on what's likely to be indicative - like arguing with eth0s after he was already lynched almost got to the point of taunting and I didn't see the point of that from a town perspective.

Do you see a point for that from a scum perspective though?
-L

[Fishy Logic]

Quantifiable Conundrum (L-3)

: Amrun

RadiantCowbells, GuiltyLion, Quantifiable Conundrum,
Dannflor, Lovebird, Fishy Logic

FL I also see where their mindset is at but it keeps pinging me at times that they're arguing for the sake of arguing rather than really focusing on what's likely to be indicative - like arguing with eth0s after he was already lynched almost got to the point of taunting and I didn't see the point of that from a town perspective.

Do you see a point for that from a scum perspective though?
-L

You could ask what I was doing, cause it did have a point.

-F

[Fishy Logic]

That wasn't really to L, I was using Ls post to answer GL

[Fishy Logic]

Hi, I'm back. Sorry.

So glad to have you back

[Fishy Logic]

VOTE: Lovebird
Stop lurking.

Why out of everything you could do, do you choose to vote sit on the one inactive person? This is just as bad as you washing your hands of the duels.

VOTE: QC

[Fishy Logic]

I think lurking is inherently scummy, that deserves discussion and I'm getting the vote started. However, my vote is not "sitting" anywhere. I'm willing to move it if appropriate. It doesn't look great that you're already throwing shade by claiming that I'm doing that.

I'm saying that you are pushing a slot who hasnt done anything, cool, we all want them to do more, but your vote is doing nothing to stoke them to post. There is another scummer in our midst and they have been active, so I guess what I'm accusing you of is a busy vote on LB to make it look like you are doing some real hard hitting work while you arent addressing the other active member of the scum team at all.

And trust me, it won't be considered shade when they shit i throw hits you.

[Fishy Logic]

Can both of you go into your town reads? If you have any?

You have had some good posting, I am a little paranoid about you in general though.

L is liking GL more and I agree with the read.

We keep coming to RCs alignment and keep coming to town with a healthy dose of suspicion.

Dislike QC, and could see LB being a silent partner getting bussed or at least being distanced voted.

[Fishy Logic]

Forgot Amrun was the last player with us still. I dont know what that says about me or Amrun.

[Fishy Logic]

quota

?

[Fishy Logic]

Radiant Cowbells (L-4)

: noone

eth0s (L-3)

: GuiltyLion

Amrun, Dannflor, Lovebird, Fishy Logic, Quantifiable Conundrum

Can two duels even happen simultaneously? This is getting out of hand. At least this duel is pretty good.

Scummy post from amrun

In what way?

It's an empty comment.

Sure it is. It does at least state that the duel contains a scumread for me. It’s less empty than 90% of your ISO. I have plenty of content. This is a stretch.

Which duel had a scumread in it? Who's the scum read?

[Fishy Logic]

I'm bored and feeling disconnected from reality based on bad sleep choices, anyone wanna talk to me?

-F

[Fishy Logic]

You could hypothetically talk to me?

[Fishy Logic]

What?

[Fishy Logic]

Who are you and what did you do with RC?

[Fishy Logic]

Cutie pie?

[Fishy Logic]

RC, you read his newbie game?

Did you ever address this RC?

[Fishy Logic]

That ain't me

Wanna be my huckleberry?

[Fishy Logic]

So why are we town to you?

[Fishy Logic]

Ok then.

[Fishy Logic]

Glad that was all hypothetical.

[Fishy Logic]

Ok then. I guess asking about that game wasn't what you had in mind. I don't see why you wouldn't want to talk to someone you're tring when they are trying to get their own lay of the land.

But sure act like an aloof prick if that gets youre rocks off.

[Fishy Logic]

I'm tired of shit like this.

Yeah, I'm tired of shit like this from you too. Can't hide behind a hydra for your disinterest this time though. Not sure why you jump to thinking I'm sring you, I'm just starting a dialogue and used my own slot to start.

[Fishy Logic]

Go to bed, I don't want to talk to you anymore.

[Fishy Logic]

Does anyone else wanna talk? I would prefer a literal talk and not a hypothetical conversation followed up with some whining and ate from someone who should be playing me different here.

Sorry RC, I dont know why you felt you needed to react so aggressively towards me. Stop playing me weird.

-F

[Fishy Logic]

why are my hydra buddy and RC fighting guys don't

Honestly everyone interactions with QC look like bussing

i like this post for whatever reason
it Speaks to me
UNVOTE:
idk as much as I hate QC's posting
it's just
will it flip scum tho? probably not?

and the fact that RC is against that lynch and nobody is being like "oh yeah yeah i guess we shouldn't"
then again I'm doing that rn
was N_M right

no i just checked my role PM he wasn't

okay what else
yeah idk where GL has gone but if he's not back soon

okay cool

-L

[Fishy Logic]

VOTE: GL
choo choo
-L

[Fishy Logic]

Let me start here

I think Fishy Logic is my top town read right now

To what do we owe this pleasure. Also, beware RC doesn't like talking about his tr of us. He gets pretty shitty if you try to bring it up.

[Fishy Logic]

I'm starting to feel like I shouldn't play games with funky mechanics that take away from legit scum hunting. If the first duels were tvt then scum has a legit way to stay out of it all, and then we go into a lynch where we are starting over with info that may or may not be useful to go off of.

[Fishy Logic]

How much of the last 5 pages do I have to actually carefully read?
-L

[Fishy Logic]

Does this strategy really work? Say that I have to vote you instead of another scumread who's closer to lynch?

You're not voting at all?
-L

[Fishy Logic]

No seriously, I spent good 30 seconds ctrl+F-ing LB's ISO with the search "vote:", they're not voting at all.
-L

[Fishy Logic]

Chief can you eli5 to me how is RC claiming scum exactly
-L

[Fishy Logic]

I'm Logic.
And I've already said that I think their posts are ~weird~ but not necessarily ~scum indicative~. Can you sell me on the big fish? (pun somewhat intended)

pedit: what's about the timing?
-L

[Fishy Logic]

What do I get if I hammer this right now
-L

[Fishy Logic]

Would you rather not scream "omg lynch are sea tomorrow" rather than doing that?
-L

[Fishy Logic]

AlRiGhTy ThEn

VOTE: Lovebird

-L

[Fishy Logic]