Micro 904: Radja's Story Episode 1 - GAME OVER

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VOTE: Enter

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What if we did mass claim in random order? That way there's a chance scum could flavor claim a character someone else already has

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mass flavor claim i meant lol not roles if anyone was thinking that my bad

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mass flavor claim i meant lol not roles if anyone was thinking that my bad

Mate, scums very likely recieved a safeclaim (name of a character noone plays with) with their role.
Nevertheless outing flavour might help flavour cop (if there is any).
Does anyone see a way how revealing our names could hurt us?

oh okay sorry didn't think of that

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also kinda confused by the whole "no night kill" dialogue

i assumed there would be no N0 actions due to player count

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What's with this hostility lol

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Why would zenith suggest a plan if they didnt want it to happen. Seems counterintuitive to me

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I think its a town move by zenith to want to try and semi confirm at least 3 townies through that plan

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I think its a town move by zenith to want to try and semi confirm at least 3 townies through that plan

Explain this in detail, please.

Well first theyre limiting the amount of claims which lowers the probability of scum infiltrating with a fake flavor claim

Second thet seem weary of revealing a flavor that could be a PR (Victor) so that appears anti scum to me

Third i dont think theyd come up with that plan in detail which goes against the general vibe of this thread which has been "lets not flavor claim" why come up with that idea and put yourself under the microscope from people who dont want claims if youre scum?

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@Enter Okay, I see your reasoning, I agree with most of that actually, I was looking at it more surface level like "if we can can somewhat confirm some town, it'll be easier to hit scum" but assuming Zenith is scum you're right, that does make it easier to hit a PR assuming that none of the partners are PRs.

I still think it's a brash thing to do and a bit reckless for a scum to go against the general train of thought going on in the thread, but I get why you'd think that's not what zenith is doing given the interactions between you two

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I'll look back in the thread and see if I missed something, I thought there were at least a couple slots saying they didn't want flavor claims at all

If there isn't then that's mb

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ok so looking back haggle and amrun were against flavor claiming while little grey and asriel didn't seem to mind flavor claiming, so my assessment was a bit off.

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@Haggle

I suppose it's a bit weird to come up with a plan and not want to follow through with it. However I could also see it from the viewpoint of "I'm not FOR flavor claiming but if we HAD to do it then this is the way I'd want to do it"

do you think thats accurate zenith or were you just generally 50/50 on claiming/not claiming as a whole

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also kinda confused by the whole "no night kill" dialogue

i assumed there would be no N0 actions due to player count

wot

basically i wasnt sure if there actions before D1 in this game style

its my first game out of the newbie queue so im still learning the differences

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also gonna force myself to go back through the zenith/enter interaction

part of me wants to just stuff as a T/S conflict in my mind since reading through it literally numbed my mind and felt like it got us nowhere (no offense guys lol) but maybe my initial read through wasnt analytical enough

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@Enter

out of curiosity do you think this dialogue with zenith is helping town?

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so do i but it might be worth looking if i can spot something AI

it's a bit of a slog though not gonna lie

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My partner and I have decided we should all claim since there's 9 safe non-Victor safeclaims, and knowing partners will be good. Probably. I'll let you do the honours, Billy.

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How does everybody else feel about this? I'm cool with it as long as we do random order

one thing i am lowkey concerned about tho is i noticed on the vote counts we're getting a little bit of info on certain characters. do you think its possible a PR could be outted accidentally by that?

i guess it doesnt matter if the flavor is that everyone is a cop but eh

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My partner and I have decided we should all claim since there's 9 safe non-Victor safeclaims, and knowing partners will be good. Probably. I'll let you do the honours, Billy.

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How does everybody else feel about this? I'm cool with it as long as we do random order

one thing i am lowkey concerned about tho is i noticed on the vote counts we're getting a little bit of info on certain characters. do you think its possible a PR could be outted accidentally by that?

i guess it doesnt matter if the flavor is that everyone is a cop but eh

Isn’t the names we got in our role pms, the flavour? I feel stupid now but that’s probably what Jingle was referring to.

Yeah the name is our flavor but they all have occupations as well, with the two we've seen so far being cop and criminal

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I think i explained this poorly lol

Basically when radja posts a vote count it also comes along with one of the characters from the story and gives us their name and a bit of info on them

One of the characters so far has been a cop and the other was a criminal and that was written as their occupation. I was slightly concerned that maybe some of the occupations for certain characters could be different which could give away our TPRs if we all claim. I doubt that's the case but its just a thought i had

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Haggle is probably scum.

what makes you say that

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No. I'm happy to pick claim order, will do so after I've done another read of D1. Shouldn't be too long.

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honestly after reading back through the thread, I realize that this probably isn't going to get us anywhere.

But we may as well get it over with so that we can progress the game without having it take up space/time

Amrun and then Gamma please flavor claim

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honestly after reading back through the thread, I realize that this probably isn't going to get us anywhere.

But we may as well get it over with so that we can progress the game without having it take up space/time

Amrun and then Gamma please flavor claim

You misunderstand, it's fullclaim time. Zenith and ourselves need to claim as well.

ah, sure. Zenith, Amrun, You and then Gamma would be my preferred then if we're full claiming.

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You're confident in that?

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I thought the tracker claim was weird too tbh given the roles we already have

That's assuming the vigi claim is real but i dont see why it wouldnt be. If its not that's a great play from scum lmao

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I'm Chet Gray, partner of Lewis Robson. I'm VT, nothing special about me. If I'd rolled PR, I would have probably been way lurkier D1.

Has anyone claimed Lewis Robson?

And who tf is Victor?

maybe he's one of the empty flavors with no one as him?

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Gamma isn't Lewis, I am

I don't think Gamma has claimed anyone yet?

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Explain Zenith?

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Gamma isn't Lewis, I am

I don't think Gamma has claimed anyone yet?

If Jingle’s list is correct, maybe he’s Victor?

Maybe. Gamma are you?

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Ok, cool. I'm Victor. Wanted to see if you'd claim him lol

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Prod received. Sorry, I've actually been keeping up but legit just couldn't think of what to post, I wanted to let this interaction play out.

I think my preferred lynch for this day would be Amrun, given what I've seen so far.

Zenith I'm not sure on but I think they're more likely to be scum than LGC or Gamma.

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Unless anything changes soonish I'm going to be voting Amrun sometime in the next couple of days.

I do want to do a bit of a recap and figure out my feelings on some slots before I go ahead with this, so it won't be a rushed decision.

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@Zenith

So you think LGC & Gamma is the team?

It's possible. What I think is more likely is this: LGC Scum / Gamma Town. This is assuming LGC is Scum. I'm gauging this specifically off of their posting styles. LGC has been very adamant about Gamma being town while Gamma has been a little more neutral to LGC. So, if LGC was scum, I'd be more likely to see it this way than with both of them being on the same team.

Do you think there's a world where Amrun/LGC is Scum/Scum?

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@Zenith

So you think LGC & Gamma is the team?

It's possible. What I think is more likely is this: LGC Scum / Gamma Town. This is assuming LGC is Scum. I'm gauging this specifically off of their posting styles. LGC has been very adamant about Gamma being town while Gamma has been a little more neutral to LGC. So, if LGC was scum, I'd be more likely to see it this way than with both of them being on the same team.

Do you think there's a world where Amrun/LGC is Scum/Scum?

I supposed LGC/Amrun is possible, but seems very strange. I mean that bus seems pretty heavy and unprovoked. LGC/Chemist might also be possible, though it also seems unlikely because of the Vig claim.

Out of Amrun, Gamma, and Chemist, Gamma seems like the most likely partner.

Although, if scum has a vig, scum having 2 kills seems pretty OP. i don't know much about possible roles or balance so I'm def not the person to turn to for setup speculation, but since LGC is pushing the idea that town is brokenly OP, balance-wise how would you feel about the presence of a scum vig? I don't even know if scum vig is a thing, but scum having 2 kills per night sounds kinda scary. Since odd/even night cop is a thing, could limited scum vig be a thing? Like 1 shot scum vig, odd night scum vig, or maybe some kind of reactive kill if targeted by night action or something?

Hmm, did you claim yet? Being MYLO with PRs already outed and such, I don't see any reason to hold back from full massclaim at this point. Did you target anyone last night?

Me? I claimed. I'm Victor and I'm a VT.

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Good 3 days. I will post tommorow.

You can still control my vote if you want.

I... don't really like this.

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Intent to hammer when I wake up, giving time to see if anything changes and have one last think before I go through with this.

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Here's hoping we're right with this.

VOTE: Amrun

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Honestly Zenith that whole above post seems a little WIFOM, so I don't really want to acknowledge it as anything AI.

I'll be real, I am leaning toward you being the scum this game. i think the only other possibility is LGC who has pocketed Gamma by repeating the whole thing about her being a "locktown" and whatnot

The thing is though, neither Gamma or LGC have really acknowledged me much, which I like since I'm conftown. I feel like scum would be more concerned about getting me involved and seeing what I think about matters, which is what you've been doing. i understand this can come from town, but that's just what I'm seeing so far.

There was still a lingering thought about LGC seeming to play really hard for a win condition, whereas the rest of this group and D2s group didn't seem as focused on that... but I think that's just my paranoia coming into play. If LGC has really set this up with a mega bus, it's a brilliant setup and I wouldn't be ashamed of losing to it. I just see it as unlikely compared to all of the other possibilities.

I will admit I'm not confident at all in my read on Gamma. I feel like he's been able to sit behind being mostly TR for a majority of the game, and thus there hasn't been a lot of AI content produced from that slot that I feel like I can accurately gauge. Again though, I feel like they're less likely to be scum here than... you. );

I'm not going to rush into this, I'm busy today but I plan on going through the ISOs and seeing if anything new pings me. I am leaning toward hammering Zenith as of right now.

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Sure, from your POV there's no harm, because you know you're alignment.

I'm sure you get why I'm not as willing to try something like that

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big rips in the chat

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Oh, right. I guess you've got a point.

Lemme see who I'm more worried about

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the way you're playing this is reminding me so hard of a way my friend would play irl

in ANY type of social deduction game, whether he was guilty or not guilty, he'd always be like: "yeah, might as well lynch me. I understanding. I get it. Just do it.'

threw me off all the time

YOU PLAYING MIND GAMES WITH ME ZENITH?!?!

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VOTE: Zenith

I'm sorry. ):

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I tried a different style here of being more quiet and just analyzing what was going on around me. I don't think it was effective. Can't help but feel I let down the squad on this one. ); sorry guys

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Yeah, I suppose there's positives to it as well. I noticed though that the less I involve myself in interactions, the less confident I feel in my reads. Guess it just becomes a matter of balancing different playstyles and seeing what works.

GG to all involved! Really well played by the scum team and town had some good moments as well <3

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I'd like to pre in for the next episode if possible.

I'll play my more usual active style bc the one I tried this game was... ughh

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I'd like to pre in for the next episode if possible.

I'll play my more usual active style bc the one I tried this game was... ughh

I would not be opposed to trying to hydra with you that game

Sounds like fun!