Micro 907- Recruitment

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hi Drew and Dong.

You rolled recruiter last time, so better play it safe than sorry.
VOTE: Doctor Drew

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let's strike a deal. If you promise to recruit me tommorow i'll avoid lynching you today Drew.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ME!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

I just got a pm from the mod chastising me because i am apparently "not playing to my win condition".
Bro i’m being sarcastic. We’re in RVS.

[NorwegianboyEE]

wait seriously?

also what name should i be calling you? Norbo?

Norwee is your best bet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

classic FDSE - already a townread

VOTE: FDSE

The past two games I played with Doctor Drew under my main, I correctly identified he was scum. Might I add as well, both times he was cult.

oh so you can already tell he's cult?

VOTE: Dr. Drew

cool let's GBH him

How sad, we’re only in the first page and solved the game already.
Thank you Drew, master of cult.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cult game without Korina in it? I don't think so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually it's much easier for me to read alts and solve a game if i know who their main is. But i respect your wish for it to remain in secrecy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m guessing the town wins if we lynch the "leader" cult type dude. So i’ll be looking out for him in particular. This setup wouldn’t make sense or be winnable for town otherwise.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m guessing the town wins if we lynch the "leader" cult type dude. So i’ll be looking out for him in particular. This setup wouldn’t make sense or be winnable for town otherwise.

how do you know this "leader" is a him?
because you know him or because it's you?

VOTE: Norwee

it's over for you - selfvote and we'll make this quick

Oh silly. There are no females on the internet. That’s what i’ve been told.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just saying that i highly respect Dong for her reads in the last cult game and as long as i townread the slot i will most likely sheep their reads in the future and steal all of the glory in a later interval. Thanks.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This might be a weird read, but in the cult game i played prior to this i noticed that almost everyone BUT the cult leader fake claimed cultist role as a joke. By taking this information to it’s logical conclusion i can only assume that Eve is town for doing it in this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

therefore the two scum are Joges and Nova - i think we just won?

Why those two though?
And i don't know who Nova is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And Gem. Who's that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Eve you're too vote hoppy. How can you reasonably expect to pressure anyone when a gentle breeze of wind is enough to make you change your direction?

[NorwegianboyEE]

We're in page 3 and Drew still hasn't solved the game. Let's lynch this scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Obviously she doesn’t expect to do that or she’d be doing it.

Why are you answering for her?
Are you two cult buddies?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Her actions answered for her. I merely stated the obvious. Are you always this naive or are you her partner?

If her actions answered for her then why did you need to state the obvious? ;]
Checkmate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i think i've actually found scum after that OMGUS

VOTE: Nova

Let's gooo.
VOTE: Robbnva

[NorwegianboyEE]

also i think he's being overly aggressive here

I tend to bring out rage in people just FYI.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What about 58 then? Can you expand on i

I mean it’s pretty obvious so why do I need to expand. 58 is a lie so she tried to smear my name.

Why do you specifically feel like Eve is attempting to "smear your name" as opposed to just scum hunting?

[NorwegianboyEE]

In my experience cultists like to just lurk and say absolutely nothing controversial at all. So Drew, Kerset and yes indeed Map Wolf be looking sus. Joges too actually, i mean i like being pocketed as much as the next guy, but outside of a TR on me he hasn’t given much indication of scum hunting yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Drew
I’ve not felt a difference from his last cultist game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb i think you and Eve are both town. Let’s vote one of these cultist lurkscum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I definitely don’t town read you either after then stunt you pulled

What stunt? I've been consistent and obvtown all game.
The cultist recruiter are hiding in one of the quiet people, mark my words. He would never play boldly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have barely contributed so far.

I'll be eagerly awaiting your Renaissance.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Her actions answered for her. I merely stated the obvious. Are you always this naive or are you her partner?

If her actions answered for her then why did you need to state the obvious? ;]
Checkmate.

i think i've actually found scum after that OMGUS

VOTE: Nova

Let's gooo.
VOTE: Robbnva

This stunt

I've got no qualms joining the wagon of my TR. It also revealed some interesting reactions from you. You might think it was some sort of scum attempt at starting a wagon on town, but i can assure you i would do much better if i truly was attempting that. This is me trying to gain info by poking a sleeping bear and analyzing the reaction.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is me trying to gain info by poking a sleeping bear and analyzing the reaction.

People hide behind “reactions tests” are either scum or lazy players. You can’t reaction test people unless you know how they react as both alignments.

How is anyone supposed to learn if they don't probe ASAP?
Also i don't like how quickly you came to the conclusion that Eve is scum. I'm not saying that makes you scummy, just a criticism of your early tunneling approach.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb looks good, Eve does not.

I disagree with this strongly btw.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb looks good, Eve does not.

I disagree with this strongly btw.

The individual definition of what makes someone "town" or "scum" is clearly causing some issues between players here. In my opinion the best way to play is by initiating wagons and analyzing the reactions of people surrounding it. Also from my experience the cultist recruiter (whom is our target number #1) should be lynched ASAP, because cult get's stronger over time if we lynch wrong and it's only going to get worse. Cultist recruiter knows this and would prefer to avoid saying anything that could cause controversy, ergo he will lurk or say very inoffensive things. He will most likely not be on the front-lines dishing out scumreads and arguing like Robb and Eve is doing right now.
So from the list of D1 lynches i can already put Eve and Robb in the "no-lynch" list of people i wouldn't want to vote immediately. Dong also i've got a mild TR on.
My preferred lynch is therefore from this point on going to be one of these people:

- Drew
- Map Wolf (town points for self-awareness in post 91)
- Fdse (leaning town)
- Kerset
- Joges

[NorwegianboyEE]

this is probably enough scum theatre for now

gottem

[NorwegianboyEE]

I kinda think you may be but I think that’s more annoyance at your wifom attempts and attempting to smear my name unfairly.

but Norwee - Nova didn't contribute until i asked him for his biggest scumread and he replied above

also i just realised that he acknowledges it's out of annoyance rather than a scumread there but now claims he's set on me being scum for it

I just got out of a game where i was town and someone death-tunneled me to oblivion. It's frustrating, but even when it happens you've got to stay cool-headed and decide whether their insistent push is scum-motivated or simply a part of their personality. You've also got to take a look at other people to make sure you don't commit to a useless 1v1 while scum could potentially be outside of it pulling the strings.
Like I've already gone over, i don't think a theoretical cult leader!Robb would be so focused on rallying a lynch on you and death-tunneling as opposed to simply trying to defuse the situation and misdirect the town onto someone else. Therefore it is my belief that the cult leader is most likely one of the people i've listed as opposed to either you or Robb.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i do have to say - i really like how you're defusing the situation and trying to get us to focus on the quieter players rather than make the thread a 1v1

This is actually a very personal pet peeve of mine, because I've experienced it recently and i really hate when town players tunnel and scum just lurks and nobody looks at them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So you're insinuating that we're both scum for trying to look through the blinders.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm trying to build a beautiful city of a townblock here, and all you can do is look up in pity from the sewage. It's truly sad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

to everyone else: is there anyone else FDSE could be or should i treat him as Korina for meta? since i noticed 4 of you from here played in the last cult game

Treating it as a Korina slot inherently demands an assumption that he might cultside even as town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would like Joges to have some more input in this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So many people lying about me. All can’t be scum. Why do townies lie? STOP LYING IF YOU ARE TOWN.

You sound like Donald Trump.

[NorwegianboyEE]

.
So I’m sorry if everyone disagrees with me but I can’t find town motivation in any of your actions, not even the vote hopping. So if people want to lynch me cause they disagree with me scum reading you that’s ok with me but I can’t in good faith unvote you because I’m 99.99% sure you ate scum and unvoting you is playing against my win condition.

You people also need to relax. There’s always a chance I change my mind especially if somebody else stands out more. Like right now I have 3/4 people who could be scum. We have plenty of time.

I’m sorry but what kind of progression is this? You’re 99.99% sure Eve is scum, but now suddenly there’s a chance you’ll change your mind?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also having 3/4 scumreads lmao. There are only 2 cultists, and you’re obviously just going after everyone that has scumread you or TR’s Eve.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This slot needs a bit more pressure.
VOTE: Jogen
2 main wagons being Drew and Jogen is something i can live with right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*Joges.

[NorwegianboyEE]

are you two saying Korina would play the game as a cultist even as town? what reason would he have to do that? because of the off chance he gets recruited to cult?

Here's Korina's private PT from the previous cult recruiter game:
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=81381

[NorwegianboyEE]

How do you play as cult?

Are you asking someone?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so drew and joges are top wagons. Why?

Drew because policy lynch.
Joges cus he hasn't really said much of value yet, and that makes his slot hard to read.

[NorwegianboyEE]

hasn't really said much of value yet, and that makes his slot hard to read.

This doubles for Map Wolf actually.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This slot needs a bit more pressure.
VOTE: Jogen
2 main wagons being Drew and Jogen is something i can live with right now.

Im not feeling drew. Also joges seems to inactive, and i get cult wants to lay low but i like working with what i have.

What do you think about fdse? I thought he was acting differently compared to his last town game.

^Forgot to respond to this.

Yeah my main beef with Fdse is that i've never played against that exact slot, and i don't know who it's an alt of. So i can't use meta. In what way is FDSE acting differently from his last town game in your opinion?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Read my post 124. I've already explained why and who i'm willing to lynch for D1. Whoever looks the most scum on this list essentially.

- Drew
- Map Wolf (town points for self-awareness in post 91)
- Fdse (leaning town)
- Kerset
- Joges

[NorwegianboyEE]

The one where I was cult leader and didn't lurk.

But you did.
And so did your teammate. On D1 much less.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Map Wolf
In fact i remember pretty distinctly how i claimed "lurking player" was a policy lynch and then we voted him and he turned out to be a cultist.

[NorwegianboyEE]

For real though, townpoints for the courage.

Is it though? I don't think i've played with you before. Assuming i just angered the cobra commander then it wouldn't be courage as much as "foolhardy recklessness" now would it?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What if cultists are FDSE and Joges lurk squad?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why do you have to sound so reasonable. I was going to make jokes about "map openwolf" but now you’ve ruined it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think there's a good chance that at least one of Joges and Fdse are scum. As for the other players, Robbvna seems to have this kind of disfriendly tone which I don't really like... Would be my best guess for who else could be scum.

I kinda agree with this.
UNVOTE:
My guess is that if Robb is scum then he's most likely a regular cultist rather than a cult leader. Therefore i think we should try sorting between those two slots you mentioned for now, maybe throw Drew in there as well.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well we'd obviously need to wait for them to show up, doh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb, are your scumreads usually correct as town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't think Eve as a cultist player would be so "out there". It just doesn't fit my expectation of a cultist player, and i don't really see anything that's explicitly scummy about her actions so i'm not sure why you're so convinced of it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Seeing as most active slots have provided content so far i don't see it as scummy to lynch a lurking slot. Especially if we start running out of time, i do understand it might be pointless to pressure an inactive slot however, that's why i'm waiting with my voting until either of FDSE, Joges or Drew make a big comeback.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There are 2 cult and 7 town according to setup.
Naturally that means 1 is recruiter and 1 is regular.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb is town but i don’t agree with a bunch of points he makes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Although Robb could in theory be cultist trying to distract us from cult leader in lurker slots.

[NorwegianboyEE]

lynching a lurker is a policy lynch. history shows lurker lynches usually end up mislynches. Scum are smart enough to not completely lurk. scum are going to sort of hang around and do nothing but try and look town. That basically describes eve. She has done nothing

i don't agree with this at all

an average scum is more likely to lurk than an average townie from my experience - of course more lurked lynches are going to be town but that's only because of the nature of the game and the fact there's more town than scum

for example:
if you lynch a completely random person - there's a 2/9 chance they're scum
if you lynch a random

lurker

- it's more like a 2.5/9 chance they're scum

it might not seem like a lot but it's a significant difference

also in a cult game like this the cult leader is actually incentivised to lurk and not draw attention to themselves because active players always inevitably start scumreading each other if there's like 4 or 5 players that contribute a lot more than the rest

@mod: will joges be replaced?

I mean historically, scum is almost never in the lurkers. Even my last completed game, scum were not the lurkers. If anything scum are the middle of the road posters.

You’re thinking about regular mafia games, but this time we’re dealing with a cult. If any active player becomes a problem they can just be recruited. Meanwhile cultists have all the incentive in the world to stay out of trouble while they gradually grow stronger.
This strategy has already been compromised by my mentioning it, that’s why i gave out an list of my preferred lynches as i delved into this monologue, because cultists can easily respond to this method by becoming "game-solvey" the instant it’s called out.
And i do actually agree that the middle-posters are suspicious too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Post 280 is scummy. Map Wolf showed up just for the sake of posting that? There’s no actual scum hunting motive there, just a post for shading Robb’s slot without making any conclusion.
His entire ISO is looking like scum trying to gain townpoints through his actions and making an excuse for not posting reads when called out for it
Open wolf has been doing some wolfy pop ins and the most recent post is just the cherry on the cake of egregious examples.
Call this my first stronger scumread.
VOTE: Map Wolf

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is a really obvious push for a mislynch in my view and is something scum would very much love to join.

And who would that be?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Honestly, you deserve to get policy lynched for this post alone.

Policy lynch for scumreading an objectively bad ISO?
Ok boomer.

If I was scum trying to look like town, I surely would try a bit harder. Sure I could lie in order to give you a better reason for not posting reads, but that would be dishonest in my view.

This is the weakest defense i've ever seen.
"I would do X as scum!!"

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well it's the best and most honest view that I can think of.

Is that the best and most natural response you could think of as scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Calm down, don't ruin the integrity of this wagon we've got going now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It kinda seems like you're taking mild criticisms of your methods as an direct attack on you, that's a bit of the problem Robbnva. It hurts your sorting skills if you're going to base your scumreads on who you perceive to be "attacking you". Because town often scumreads town and you'd need to see through that if you want to actually catch scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He’s probably not the leader but he’s probably scum.

If he was regular scum, who do you think leader would be?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Had he made that comment towards somebody else I’d still call it out. It was seriously the scummiest comment of the game. His iso is trash. He’s not scum hunting.

You don't need to explain that to me, i already agree with you on that part.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He’s probably not the leader but he’s probably scum.

If he was regular scum, who do you think leader would be?

Eve

Why Eve?
Kerset seems more likely imo. Eve already joined a wagon on Map Wolf, meanwhile Kerset discouraged it with this post 288.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum having day chat makes me think if Kerset is scum, Map is not and vice versa. I thought I had an "AHA!" moment, then was sad when I saw scum have day chat.

Why does scum having day chat make you reconsider Map for scum? Genuinely curious, i don't think i've even played a game with mafia not having daychat before.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You can ponder cult strategies as much as you want, but i'm ultimately basing my reads off the last cult game i had. And the semi-active/low activity players were scum there, so i have no real reason to suspect it to be otherwise yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The way i see it there are only two common strategies for cult leader here. Number one is to stay unnoticed and don't get into unnecessary or risky trouble. The second is to take charge in trying to control the town, a much bolder strategy, but i don't think any of the high activity players here are doing this. (Either Robb or Eve.)
Cult leader can also buss their cultist teammate and make the lynch happen for the towncred. But that means it would take longer time for cult leader to recruit enough cultists for the majority, and is therefore the more risky and unlikely strategy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb and Eve has low cult leader equity right now.
Everyone else is still fair game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The way i see it there are only two common strategies for cult leader here. Number one is to stay unnoticed and don't get into unnecessary or risky trouble. The second is to take charge in trying to control the town, a much bolder strategy, but i don't think any of the high activity players here are doing this. (Either Robb or Eve.)
Cult leader can also buss their cultist teammate and make the lynch happen for the towncred. But that means it would take longer time for cult leader to recruit enough cultists for the majority, and is therefore the more risky and unlikely strategy.

You got public approval, so cult leader will probably read your posts and try to play reactive to them. I am full serious here.

I was never intending to TR anyone who'd copy the anti-cult playstyle i described from this point on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Btw Kerset.
What are your reads right now?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok let's not distracted into playstyle hating now Robb.

[NorwegianboyEE]

yeah i'm suprised the game isn't over after i posted this tbh - i was really mad at Map when i made that but then regretted it straight after

but then you guys thought it was a joke haha

Haha, we're voting your supposed "cult leader" tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are we voting Map Wolf yet?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe not lynch just yet, but you definitely need more votes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A quick lynch onto me would be disastrous for town. Trust me.

I mean, what is this? Why would town ever say "a lynch on me is disastrous"?
It doesn't even seem like you're playing to solve right now, just bringing out a whole lot of attitude and passive aggressive posturing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Isn't it ironic that the plague doctor has gotten extremely sick?

[NorwegianboyEE]

May someone please point to me what I should reply to? I really cannot think straight enough to sit down and read sixteen pages atm.

There's nothing to reply to, you just need to post some reads and make your slot easier to read. If you're incapable of reading the last 15 pages you're not really of that much help at all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

...
What?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dayvig?

[NorwegianboyEE]

/Desperado:Kerset

If I die, then Kerset can't be cult. Sorry if this is a bad move, but I won't risk potentially being mislynched.

Did you vig Kerset?

[NorwegianboyEE]

UNVOTE:
For now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Time for ISO dive on Kerset.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m thinking Dongempire is suspicious now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually i’m pretty sure Dongempire checks out as the most likely cult leader based on both their ISO’s.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Eve do you agree?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Cult having a factional recruit only makes sense if town can make more than 1 kill between day phazes. And Map Wolf did just prove that so... not that sure anymore. But i’m still going to assume it’s the case for consinstency’s sake.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Eve is most definitely town, because she joined the wagon on Kerset rather than the one on Map Wolf. If she was Cult leader she would have rather joined the wagon on Map.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb if you don’t stop scumreading Eve now i’m going to start scumreading you.
Just FYI.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Updated reads list:

Town:
- Map Wolf
- Eve

Null:
- Joges (Light townlean due to staying on Kerset wagon)
- Robbnva (Might be scum, but still better looking than some slots.)

Scummy:
- Doctor Drew
- Fdse
- Dongempire (most likely imo)

[NorwegianboyEE]

i could see it - they made a lot of posts attacking Nova which i appreciated at the time but they made them while not actually scumreading him

what are your reasons?

Checks out. Dong never has any conflict with Kerset.
Meanwhile Kerset is largely ignoring Dong even tho she’s guilty of the same "lurking" Kerset wanted too pressure Map Wolf, Drew and Joges for. Might be distancing, but going by probability Dong seems the most likely here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Even if i’m wrong about the setup, i don’t think the "looking for cult leader" mindset is a bad thing to have or will detriment our scum hunting in any way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s neat Map.
Btw i realize we don’t have a whole lot of time so should probably vote.
I’m going for Dong, but if you’ve got a better idea of who last cult is i might consider sheeping you Map, since you’re conf!town today.
VOTE: Dongempire

[NorwegianboyEE]

You're very uncooperative.
Why is Eve scummy when she voted for confirmed cult Kerset over conf!town Map Wolf?
Why are you ignoring other potentially scummy players such as Dongempire, Drew or maybe even Joges?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you can give me a comprehensive explanation on why Dongempire + Drew is town and Eve isn't i might just give you a pass, but otherwise i think you're completely on the wrong track here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mafia doesn’t work like that. You don’t make cases why people are town.

Yes you do, because if you're working together with your townreads there is a bigger chance that you'll hit scum in the remaining players. Of course there is always the danger of being pocketed, but if you don't have allies there's a pretty big chance you could get voted yourself eventually.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A coherent town block also has much stronger voting power and is much more effective at lynching the correct players.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm never joining your wagon on Eve btw. Just making that clear right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Rob i don't get why you give other scummy players a pass while pushing the same person over and over. And claiming you're the only one that provides actual reasons and is transparent, sorry but that's arrogance right there.
I'd like it if you could at least post a reads list of people ranging from most townie to most scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well we've agreed on Dong and Map at least.
I guess it'll ultimately depend on which wagon Map Wolf and Jogen joins between Eve/Dong because i prefer voting Dong today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I've already said probability checks out.
Unless Kerset was specifically playing to set up traps on D1. The ISO suggests that Dong is the most likely teammate.
I'm not gonna spend all day arguing for it, if you look at the evidence and come to the same or different conclusion it's on you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well we've agreed on Dong and Map at least.
I guess it'll ultimately depend on which wagon Map Wolf and Jogen joins between Eve/Dong because i prefer voting Dong today.

Norwee you were just saying you thought i was definitely town and that you would scumread Nova if he continued to scumread me but here it sounds like you'd vote me if Map and Jogen do?

No. I’m not convinced, but if they vote you then plurality lynch decides your fate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Drew and Robb both see something i don’t, and they can’t both be scum. There’s only one left.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Only 8 hours left.
If nobody else chimes in before deadline i’ll probably vote Drew so he get’s flipped by plurality rule. Since that’s another one of my scumreads, even though i ultimately prefer Dongempire.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you vote Dong Map Wolf, i'll switch there. Otherwise Drew is going to be the lynch.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you vote Dong Map Wolf, i'll switch there. Otherwise Drew is going to be the lynch.

VOTE: dong

I would rather go for the maybe then the definitely not(me).

I think time is already up, but if it's possible then alright.
VOTE: DongEmpire

[NorwegianboyEE]

Imagine 6 days of waiting just to lynch this dude.
VOTE: Blatant scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

My main is Korina.

To the surprise of nobody.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I would like to lynch Rob today, since I do believe they have the highest chance of flipping scum.

Why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

You're scummy as well btw.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb still wants to lynch Eve.

So if Eve is cult leader she definitely did not cult Rob this evening.

I believe even less in the possibility of cult leader Eve now.

Robb still seems unlikely.

FDSE has got a weird scumread on Rob. Which Rob rightly pointed out was dumb.
FDSE + culted or cult leader equity.

...So basically my reads are the same today.

Robb i still strongly insist you refrain voting Eve and switch over to Blatant scum or FDSE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: FDSE
Agreed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Robb you're kinda annoying with your condescending tone. I mean, yes you're town. But still... ugh.
I've been getting a "holier than thou" vibe from you all game, and i've never been a fan of that.

I DO agree that FDSE's case on you is awful and feels super unnatural, most likely coming from a cultist POV.

I DO agree that FDSE's ISO suggests he'd be culted rather than being the initial cult recruiter.

However i don't agree with your rude words, you shouldn't call out someone for playing badly with such harsh language, it is perfectly possible to call out someone for what you perceive as scummy behavior without calling them the worst player on the site. I like Korina as a person so i don't want them to potentially feel hurt by someone's strong words.
Mafia isn't just about solving to me, it is also a social experience where i want everyone to have a good time, no matter their alignment or the game's events. So can you please chill out? Not everyone is a god at mafia.
Take a look at your words vs Jogen's words on this page, Jogen calmly yet decidedly describes Korina's scummy acts without taking it out on the person. Never accusing them of being one of the worst players, simply pointing out that they are most likely scum based on their actions. He also sounds much more convincing because of his calm and professional attitude.

I didn't mean for this to morph into a "the-reason-you-suck" speech. But it has been bothering me.

--

Anyway, still waiting for other players to catch up and give their input so i'll come up with an more definitive conclusion later. For now i'd like to keep on pressuring FDSE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That was a quick day.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why did you hammer so early tho. We didn't even get to hear from Eve.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Blatant scum is blatant scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well let's hope FDSE is cult leader. Or tomorrow is going to be a massacre.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Take that scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I told you Eve was town Robb.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sometimes it's good to get your head out of your ass and listen to other people for a change.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That does sound overly town-sided Korina.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well i'm still counting that as my second town win in a cult game.
WOO.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Though your attempt to frame Robb was a bit sketchy. So you can't say it was purely mechanics that caused you to fail.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well. Lot's of angry people here... but i had fun at least. GG Eve, fun playing with you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Joges too, you did great.
Kerset would have fooled me, i didn't sense any scumminess from that slot. Map Wolf chose his target well in that regard.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The first setup we played was much better Korina.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Though i wasn't even aware of how the setup worked since i was just a lowly VT like usual. So i just assumed it was the same as last time and played no differently. Well until that dayvig changed things.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pedit: Jingle's setup?

Yep.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I hate recruiting games. Idk why I signed up.

Technically this wasn't even really a recruitment game, since nobody got recruited until endgame.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I hate recruiting games. Idk why I signed up.

Technically this wasn't even really a recruitment game, since nobody got recruited until endgame.

Nobody got recruited in the first place.

Things like this is why i usually am reluctant to join anything that's closed setup.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Blatant scum, why can't you ever be blatant scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Indeed. WE won.
Eve i like your new profile picture.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Where's the Cult PT you dingus.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Thanks <3