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Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:23 am

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Sup dudes
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Post Post #12 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:23 am

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In post 9, Menalque wrote:We should VOTE: iconeum for an
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VOTE: Menalque
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Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:44 am

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Can't be a mason if you're in the scum PT with me
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Post Post #42 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:59 am

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In post 18, Menalque wrote:AARON U CANT JUST OUT YOUR SCUMBUDDY LIKE THAT ON PAGE 1 WITHOUT CONSULTING THEM FIRST

ESP WHEN I WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF POCKETING ALDUS
Should've checked the PT when I asked if I could out us
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Post Post #43 (isolation #4) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:01 am

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In post 30, Menalque wrote:Oh, so the hydra is hectic +1
It's actually just Hectic but like he's pretending to be two people
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Post Post #53 (isolation #5) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:37 am

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If this game started 2 hours and 18 minutes earlier than it did, then 9:12 would've started at 9:12 (well in my time zone at least)
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Post Post #61 (isolation #6) » Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:21 pm

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Are you scum?
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Post Post #88 (isolation #7) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:47 am

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In post 63, Alduskkel wrote:Also I legitimately want to know what was going through Chemist's head when he wrote post 19 and voted someone he just called conftown.
I'm fairly certain that was a joke for both the conftown thing and the following vote
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Post Post #89 (isolation #8) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:49 am

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In post 81, Menalque wrote:you don't think the blank vote for emps was suspicious
Why is that suspicious?
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Post Post #90 (isolation #9) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:51 am

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Getting some scum vibes from this guy

VOTE: Alduskkel
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Post Post #92 (isolation #10) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:47 am

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In post 91, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:Where are the scum vibes coming from?
I was pinged by and then even more by . I have no idea what he's getting at with bringing up the NewbScum greeting tell thing when I'm not new by any stretch?

Also don't like how he's legitimately scumreads Chemist over his .
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Post Post #267 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:32 am

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You guys always post when I'm busy I swear lol.

Will catch up soon.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:54 am

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In post 101, Uncrowned wrote:It's not a random vote, so yeah.

I dislike the lack of commital to an actual vote. Emps jumped on the meme without actually doing anything.
I mean Menalque did the same thing. No comment on that?
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Post Post #278 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:58 am

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In post 118, Iconeum wrote:no, i'm voting you because i have a feeling that your entire rvs phase so far feels ungenuine
Same thing could be said about all the people who have joke voted the mod honestly
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Post Post #279 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:03 am

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In post 145, Alduskkel wrote:I mean you're saying WHAT you're scum reading but I'm not seeing any WHY here. Elaborate?
Basically it felt like you were trying a little 'too' hard to do things early on. Like the thing with the meta dive on my intro post, what exactly was that supposed to accomplish? It's like pseudo-scumhunting and doesn't actually accomplish anything wrt sorting my slot.
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Post Post #280 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:05 am

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In post 151, Iconeum wrote:like seriously

that would be his 5th(?) scumgame in a row?
Gambler's fallacy dude. Don't fall into that trap :P
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Post Post #281 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:07 am

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In post 155, Menalque wrote:VOTE: datisi
Don't like this in light of the discussion that's happened on the previous pages
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Post Post #283 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:09 am

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There was plenty of game discussion happening with Icon/HH and Icon/Aldus and you continue to joke vote the mod because... why?
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Post Post #284 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:13 am

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In post 185, Alduskkel wrote:also in Micro 900 when scum!you was pressed on Day 3 to explain yourself you kinda flubbed it hard and this is reminding me of that a bit
That's a different situation from right now, early in Day 1, where most players' reads are probably wrong
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Post Post #285 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:14 am

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In post 190, Iconeum wrote:i want to state, for the record, that i don't think i'm currently flubbing
+1

Icon is townie
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Post Post #288 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:18 am

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A little, yes because I think you're trying to distract from any conversation that is happening at the moment.

Like I get that if you're good friends with the mod and you want to joke around 'lynching them to overthrow them' during early game then that's fine, but you continuing to do it once we were out of RVS was a little sketchy imo.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:26 am

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It's a way to look like you're contributing without actually taking a stance on anything.

I'm not sure that scum!you chooses to do that, but I'm also not sure why town!you chooses to do it either. Either way, it isn't very helpful when trying to sort your slot.

PEDIT: Whether or not we were in RVS isn't the point and maybe I should've phrased that differently. The point is, people were posting AI content and discussion was happening, and Mena continued with the meme.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #22) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:28 am

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Almost. I'm on like page 10. I was reading from like page 4 since that's where I left off when I last checked the game.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #23) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:32 am

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In post 233, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:@Aaron- forgot you were in the game. You're on this wagon, what do you make of the past 5 pages of interactions.
I'm content with my Aldus vote for now. I think Icon comes off as having a pretty townie/solvey mindset while Aldus got weirdly and needlessly defensive of HH.
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Post Post #300 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:32 am

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In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing
Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #25) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:34 am

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In post 241, emps wrote:wooo gamblers fallacy please tr me

pedit: like the whole "voting mod is an easy way to rvs without like actially really "comitting" to anything"
and also kind of adding on to it, its kinda easier because u already voted mod (which, on its own, is kinda awkward to do)

idk why im like scumcasing myself now but like whatever lul
Weird sentiment coming from someone who joined in on the meme but alright
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Post Post #304 (isolation #26) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:36 am

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In post 268, Iconeum wrote:AF/HH/Aldus

both scum are in there

sorry to steal your thunder Menal
How do I got from being townread to suddenly being in your scumpool?
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Post Post #305 (isolation #27) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:41 am

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In post 303, Menalque wrote:
In post 300, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing
Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.
Right but a moment ago you said that it was bad because it was trying to look like I was contributing while not

My question is how you’re interpreting a meme vote as trying to
look like
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That's more of what I meant when I said you weren't contributing is that you weren't contributing 'useful' content.

It was the timing of it. Like serious discussion is happening and you continued to meme, which is technically contributing content, but it's content that isn't useful and you don't take much stance on any current discussions.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #28) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:54 am

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In post 308, Menalque wrote:Like if I wanted to
look like
I was contributing then I could have just said something along the lines of “ahh, I don’t think X’s push here feels genuine” or “I think this is prob TvT”

So in what sense is me intentionally not producing meaningful content there an attempt to look like I am?
I mean that would've at least been taking some kind of a stance, albeit a pretty weak one. That's content that'll help me sort you.

I've literally explained this already, you're posting a lot, which is contriubuting, but the content you've generated isn't useful.

I think you're getting too caught up in the phrasing of my posts.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #29) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:05 pm

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In post 318, Menalque wrote:Also, I’m willing to reveal scum number 1!

VOTE: uncrowned
Huh wild. I though Uncrowned was mildly townie for the most part.

Only post from them I didn't like was . He seems a little too confident in his emps read but then again Mena is apparently super confident in his Uncrowned read so I'm not sure that's AI.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #30) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:08 pm

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In post 335, JJJ wrote:When the game starts shifting out of RVS and chemist votes the mod and contributes nothing.
I lowkey forgot Chemist was in this game but I also don't like his mod vote.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #31) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:10 pm

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In post 340, Uncrowned wrote:Correction: Why would I take a hard stance on something I THINK* is NAI, whoops.
Thinking that a post or series of posts is NAI is a stance, so I'm honestly not sure what Mena's getting at there.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #32) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:12 pm

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In post 347, Menalque wrote:you manage to talk about me,
aaron
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Apparently I count as two people now
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Post Post #393 (isolation #33) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:15 pm

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In post 354, Menalque wrote:In which case you haven’t because pushing meme-y non-commitsl content is one of te number 1 things that scum do
Why do you think I'm town then?
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Post Post #395 (isolation #34) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:20 pm

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In post 368, Uncrowned wrote:The interaction, from what I had seen, was mostly over. The time to analyze it from the rest of the players had come. That was my take on it. If you don't like it, that's fine. But I legitimately just didn't see much from it. Like I just said above, at best it's a slight +town for Ico, and it left me still hard null on HH.
This is pretty much how I felt after the Icon/HH interactions, although I had a much stronger tr on Icon (still do) and HH's initial reactions pinged me a bit but nothing to strong on him. I'll likely revisit that at some point.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #35) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:27 pm

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In post 383, Alduskkel wrote:I mean I went to the effort of browsing through all those games so even if it wasn't AI then I still wanted to show something for my effort lol.

And if it seemed like I was trying too hard it's because I think that helps move things past the RVS. Like, if I see something even a tiny bit scummy at that stage then I want to make it into a Thing so that people start having to take stances and stuff.
But it didn't really help move us out of RVS? And no one else commented on it or took a stance on it. So it didn't actually accomplish anything.

Pretty sure most people here could've told you that I'm not a new player by any means and that it was NAI.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #36) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:27 pm

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In post 394, Uncrowned wrote:Aaron's a pretty cool dude.

That AF guy though? Eh, not sure about him.
AFF is a fucking asshole. Fuck that guy.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #37) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:29 pm

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In post 384, Alduskkel wrote:I want to hear from both Aaron and Menalque why they think Iconeum is town.
I need to revisit the Icon/HH thing but from what I remember it came off as genuinely trying to sort as opposed to pushing an agenda.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #38) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:34 pm

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@Dats: I'll have limited access until 12/26. Should be around, just not sure how often.


Acknowledged.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:21 am

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In post 404, JJJ wrote:
In post 384, Alduskkel wrote:What's a "vanity vote"? Is it scummy?
Idk if I used the term correctly but basically I thought he made the vote for looks without any real intention of it being wagoned/lynched. So yeah, it's scummy in the sense that I thought he was voting in a way that was conscious of his own image rather than to get something done.

But I am less sure of that now.
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Eh it doesn't really read that way to me. I think Mena genuinely wants Uncrowned lynched here. If he was conscious of his own image he's probably hop on Aldus
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Post Post #468 (isolation #40) » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:42 am

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Happy holidays everyone. I'll be back tomorrow.
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Post Post #488 (isolation #41) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:07 am

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In post 452, Alduskkel wrote:Why do I have to townread you to see HH's vote on you as lazy?

For the record, you're squarely at "null" for me right now.
Why do you think votes on players that haven't been active/useful are lazy? Wouldn't that be a good way to make them contribute?
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Post Post #489 (isolation #42) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:10 am

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In post 472, Alduskkel wrote:I'm just gonna come out and say that anyone who doesn't read or at least look at Micro 900 isn't doing their due diligence in reading me, Menalque, Iconeum, or emps.
I was loosely following that game while it was ongoing but I'll take a second look at it at some point.
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Post Post #490 (isolation #43) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:13 am

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In post 462, Uncrowned wrote:After rereading, I'm kind of concerned about this wagon on Aldus
My initial worry was that scum might follow me onto the wagon, but I'm tring everyone who voted Aldus after me rn.
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Post Post #491 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:14 am

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In post 460, Iconeum wrote:VOTE: aldus

L1

Claim
The timing of this reaction test is a little weird though
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Post Post #507 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:49 pm

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In post 495, JJJ wrote:
In post 494, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 492, Menalque wrote:yeah I'm p sure chem is town
meh I guess this is a towny read

in my experience when I call scum out for a specific behavior they tend to stop doing that thing instead of doubling down
Another post with no content. - Y
What do you mean by 'no content'? I feel like you're using that phrase a lot to just shade people.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #46) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:51 pm

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In post 503, Alduskkel wrote:I was once a player who liked voting lurkers. It didn't help me catch scum.
I'm not saying we have to lynch the lurkers, but wagoning them helps them produce AI content, then it's worth it imo.

I wouldn't really classify Chemist as a lurker either.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:58 pm

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In post 502, Uncrowned wrote:Also now I don't feel like an Aldus lynch would be good. Feels like we've lingered around this long enough, the lack of real opposition towards it leads me to believe that scum would be okay with this lynch. Aldus hasn't been particularly scummy imo.
I'll be honest, my vote is still on Aldus because I'm honestly not sure where else to put it right now. I've been feeling a little better about his recent posting.

Who's your preferred lynch right now?
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Post Post #518 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:54 pm

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Hey Icon now that you're back can you answer this for me
In post 304, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 268, Iconeum wrote:AF/HH/Aldus

both scum are in there

sorry to steal your thunder Menal
How do I got from being townread to suddenly being in your scumpool?
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Post Post #539 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:43 am

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In post 534, Alduskkel wrote:@Aaron and Chemist: Are you still townreading Icon? If so, how do you explain the fake L-1 and claim request?
My tr on him has diminished, but I'm not sure if it's because he's been V/LA or not and I'd rather not use that to determine alignment. Now that he's back I'd like an answer to my question as well as an explanation for the L-1 thing.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #50) » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:45 am

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In post 539, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 534, Alduskkel wrote:@Aaron and Chemist: Are you still townreading Icon? If so, how do you explain the fake L-1 and claim request?
My tr on it has diminished, but I'm not sure if it's because it's been V/LA or not and I'd rather not use that to determine alignment. Now that it's back I'd like an answer to my question as well as an explanation for the L-1 thing.
Fixed to use the right pronouns. Sorry.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #51) » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:56 am

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In post 548, JJJ wrote:I just had a hallucinogenic vision that revealed to me that Aaron frost is evil

But I dont know if that's a good enough reason to vote him

-X
You should stop taking shrooms then. I hear they can alter your perception of reality :P
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Post Post #551 (isolation #52) » Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:00 am

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Post Post #554 (isolation #53) » Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:06 am

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What is it telling of?
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Post Post #560 (isolation #54) » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:37 pm

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I'm just waiting for Icon to answer the questions directed towards it. I forgot about it's weekend V/LA though.
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Post Post #568 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:02 am

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Chemist isn't actually at L-1 with that vote bc HH unvoted. I can put him there though.

VOTE: Chemist

We need stuff to happen
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Post Post #569 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:04 am

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I don't want Aldus lynched anymore. He's moved up to null town territory for me.
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Post Post #587 (isolation #57) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:06 am

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In post 583, Menalque wrote:Like I’m frustrated that he’s defending icon who *checks notes* made exactly the same move he did in his incredibly recent scum game, won’t get any traction as a wagon, hasn’t been townposting like uncrowned did after I voted him, and disappeared after brushing off making the exact same move he did as his incredibly recent scumgame
Why does scum!Icon make the same move two games in a row with similar playerlists?
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Post Post #588 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:07 am

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In post 586, Menalque wrote:Icon is p likely scum but also not here and therefore potentially a bad lynch
This is why I'm reluctant to lynch Icon because it hasn't been here and might be replaced unless it comes back. Like I'm not really townreading it anymore but I don't like lynching inactive slots either.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #59) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:22 pm

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In post 590, Menalque wrote:
In post 587, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 583, Menalque wrote:Like I’m frustrated that he’s defending icon who *checks notes* made exactly the same move he did in his incredibly recent scum game, won’t get any traction as a wagon, hasn’t been townposting like uncrowned did after I voted him, and disappeared after brushing off making the exact same move he did as his incredibly recent scumgame
Why does scum!Icon make the same move two games in a row with similar playerlists?
Bc no one really SR him for it last game and he was able to push my mislynch from the reaction to it?
It did eventually get lynched in that game though.

I'm only asking because I'm still not convinced on scum!Icon yet and I'm trying to see it from your point of view. Like I could probably come around to it but like I also need it to answer the things directed towards it.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #60) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:25 pm

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I need to reevaluate this game at some point. That'll happen tomorrow though since it's past midnight here and I need sleep.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:59 am

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sup ducky
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Post Post #616 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:54 am

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Me. I'm town.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:56 am

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We already are ;)
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Post Post #624 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:48 pm

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Btw duck you're like one of two people we're considering lynching today so if you could make your alignment obvious that'd be cool
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Post Post #667 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:39 pm

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Duck what's your read on Menalque right now?
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Post Post #679 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:02 pm

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Happy New Year! Just hit midnight over here.

I'll throw some of my thoughts at you in a minute duck.
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Post Post #687 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:21 pm

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In post 678, the worst wrote:aaron, throw brain thoughts at me
So basically here's where I'm at.

I'm agree that Icon was pretty town. The read was starting to diminish but I think that was in part to it being V/LA for a while and not answering the questions directed towards it. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were legitimately tring Icon before you repped in.

Not sure I'm seeing Mena as town here. I think his read on Icon is incredibly surface-level and don't like how he's tunneling the slot after your replace-in. Now I haven't played with scum Mena but town Mena is usually pretty confident on his reads, which is something that I think scum Mena can fake easily. I'm gonna say that his posting on the past few pages is NAI due to him being drunk though.

Chemist is sort of a null-scum read for me and Mena's been hard protecting him most of the day as well. I felt like his recent Aldus vote was sketchy as well.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #68) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:24 pm

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Not particularly. We still have 2 and a half days.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:28 pm

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There might be some kind of association with Mena/Chemist depending on how it flips but I'm not sure if Mena hard defends his buddy like that.

PEDIT: Again I don't know his scum meta too well. I can see where you're coming from with your read on him but I'm not sure I agree atm.
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Post Post #693 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:30 pm

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I'll def have to check out his scumgame though.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:35 pm

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That's a slot I need to revisit soon. I was initially SRing him early on but grew less confident in that read over time and he eventually moved up to null territory.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #72) » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:25 am

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In post 696, the worst wrote:mmm hmmm hrm
i might not be giving his scumgame as much credit as it deserves

in avp his scum meta was very underdevelopped so we gave him a super clean metaclear
I don't think it's impossible that Mena's scum game has improved to look more like his town game. In fact, I think it's pretty likely.

A similar thing happened to me in Large Normal 223 where people went through my one scum game at the time and thought 'he's probably town because he's acting different than he was in this game where he was scum.' I ended up winning that game as scum.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #73) » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:38 pm

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Yeah I think duck is townspewing here. I'm a little sad that Icon wasn't able to answer the questions directed towards it but at least I have a strong read on the slot now.
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Post Post #748 (isolation #74) » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:48 pm

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In post 743, the worst wrote:i love the old cheeky scum meta pivot - it's mostly a matter of if he's able to make this big an adjustment as scum. i still need to fully catch up, i'll keep this at front of mind.
It's definitely something to keep in mind. Like I wouldn't use this as a reason to scumread Mena necessarily, but try not to fall in the trap of 'he's playing to his town meta, therefore he's town' since he'd want to try an emulate that if he were scum.
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Post Post #749 (isolation #75) » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:48 pm

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In post 746, JJJ wrote:I do think one of TW and mena is scum. Kinda liking duck's entrance tho and mena never expanding on how me and AF became null is weird
Interesting. Anything with their interactions to support this theory?
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Post Post #750 (isolation #76) » Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:48 pm

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Pagetop motherfuckers
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Post Post #838 (isolation #77) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:50 am

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In post 812, Uncrowned wrote:I am the Town Roleblocker.

I roleblocked Emps last night.

So you guys don't have to do it yourself, that means there is one of these three combinations of roles in this game.

Mafia One-Shot Strongman, Town Babysitter Town Roleblocker.

Town Babysitter, Town Roleblocker, Mafia Rolecop.

Town Roleblocker, Mafia Rolecop, Town Rolecop.

The reason my evidence is not conclusive is that there is a chance that there is a Town Babysitter in this game that watched over the person who got picked for the NK.
Nice

VOTE: emps

I'm inclined to believe this. If there is a babysitter they should crumb their target.
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Post Post #839 (isolation #78) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:51 am

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In post 816, Uncrowned wrote:I don't want the other PR, whether it's rolecop or babysitter to claim either. I don't think we get any benefit out of it.
Agreed. They should crumb though in the event that they die.
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Post Post #840 (isolation #79) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:55 am

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In post 837, JJJ wrote:Yeah mena is probably the partner tbh, this is completely on par with how he would react as scum.

-X
Yeah that was a pretty scummy reaction ngl but I need to reread with emps!scum in mind
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Post Post #866 (isolation #80) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:38 am

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In post 846, Menalque wrote:And if emps is caught then he wants to push mena/HH to happen because that potentially takes the heat off him and gets him to lylo
And how am I doing this exactly?
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Post Post #869 (isolation #81) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:41 am

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@Aldus:
This post was pretty bad. It felt like a snap reaction to seeing people associate him/emps together.
In post 836, Menalque wrote:Oh and also lmao at the idea that I’m a viable emps partner

Yes, I totally bump my partner to the bottom of my reads, that makes total sense
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Post Post #872 (isolation #82) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:44 am

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In post 864, Menalque wrote:I do kind of get AFF town reads, I think he’s just being bad at the game

But like I’m still in reservations about it because if HH!town then AF’s scum equity goes up noticeably for trying to encourage a 1v1 between us
I'm not trying to encourage anything between you guys, I'm trying to sort slots. I have zero idea where you are getting this from.

What about my posting today is bad?
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Post Post #882 (isolation #83) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:54 am

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In post 864, Menalque wrote:I do kind of get AFF town reads, I think he’s just being bad at the game
Dude if you are town here then you need to do a better job of convincing me that you're not emps's partner here, like in case it isn't obvious I haven't exactly been townreading you this game.

And if you legitimately think that I'm scum then you need to make an actual case against me instead of just shading me.
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Post Post #952 (isolation #84) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:39 pm

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In post 891, Menalque wrote:
In post 882, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 864, Menalque wrote:I do kind of get AFF town reads, I think he’s just being bad at the game
Dude if you are town here then you need to do a better job of convincing me that you're not emps's partner here, like in case it isn't obvious I haven't exactly been townreading you this game.

And if you legitimately think that I'm scum then you need to make an actual case against me instead of just shading me.
Literally, there is a shit ton of evidence for the fact that I don’t bus unless very very necessary to win

What is your argument that I’m scummy for my reaction? HH is shitpushing me and he’s fine for it but I call that HH is probably scum (again, after being the main defender of conf!town and the one who was voting scum yesterday) and I’m scummy for it?
I would say that bussing is pretty necessary when your partner is inevitably going to be lynched today.

Yes I am saying your reaction is scummy but scummy reaction =/= scum. emps flipping red doesn't really change my read on you much bc he was mostly a non presence yesterday. Like I can't even remember anything that he said or did.

Like I said, I will reread with emps!scum in mind.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #85) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:40 pm

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UNVOTE:

Just for now bc I think he's at L-1 and I don't want him to end this day early when he gets here.
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Post Post #954 (isolation #86) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:42 pm

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In post 903, Menalque wrote:Is town particularly keen on throwing this game for some reason?
It's comments like this that aren't really helping your case right now dude.
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Post Post #959 (isolation #87) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 918, Menalque wrote:
In post 915, the worst wrote:that's defs a soft or a slip yeah
i've used the same before, accidentally and intentionally!
Right so if I clicked that why is he still alive today if I’m scum
This literally means nothing when the kill was stopped and we have no way of knowing who scum's target was.
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Post Post #960 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:48 pm

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In post 959, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 918, Menalque wrote:
In post 915, the worst wrote:that's defs a soft or a slip yeah
i've used the same before, accidentally and intentionally!
Right so if I clicked that why is he still alive today if I’m scum
This literally means nothing when the kill was stopped and we have no way of knowing who scum's target was.
Actually you do have a point if there is a strongman but we don't exactly have a way of knowing that.
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:10 pm

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In post 976, Menalque wrote:Actually you know what go right ahead and mislynch me

VOTE: menalque

Anyone who’s town is not playing well bar uncrowned
Dude no one is even considering lynching you today. We're lynching emps.

Stop this.
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:13 pm

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In post 987, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:Why do you think he's Emps' partner here? What about his play has said that? You're putting the onus on him, which seems like you're trying to make him sound defensive.

BP
Does his posting not seem defensive to you? Literally all of Day 2 he's been in defense mode over me and HH suggesting that him and emps could be a team.
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #91) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm

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In post 997, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:Ok caught up. Mena's been townie all game to me. I'm really not seeing what other folks are talking about. Btw, this is L-2. Not sure what Aaron was talking about.
HH, me and duck were all voting for emps when I unvoted.

I'm confused how you're seeing Mena town here. The only thing that's making me reconsider is that this reminds me of Day 2 of PYP where nomx3 got super defeatist because of my push on her and she flipped town.
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #92) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:21 pm

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In post 1009, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 997, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:Ok caught up. Mena's been townie all game to me. I'm really not seeing what other folks are talking about. Btw, this is L-2. Not sure what Aaron was talking about.
HH, me and duck were all voting for emps when I unvoted.

I'm confused how you're seeing Mena town here. The only thing that's making me reconsider is that this reminds me of Day 2 of PYP where nomx3 got super defeatist because of my push on her and she flipped town.
Oh it's 5 votes to lynch and not 4

:facepalm:

I'm an idiot

I'm used to Day 2 of a 9 player game having 7 people left
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #93) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:29 pm

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In post 1008, Uncrowned wrote:I don't really agree with the Mena reads here. I could be hard defending scum right now but I'm not really seeing what the rest of you are seeing, nor has anyone really bothered to explain to me why they think he's scum.
His approach to this entire day and the way he immediately went to defense mode when people suggested him and emps as a team. I'm having a really hard time seeing how it comes from town.

You're mechanically conf town though and given that I am apparently your strongest town read I need to you tell me what you're seeing in town Mena here. Figuring out Mena's alignment is important to solving this game imo.

LAMIST you can answer that too. Why is Mena town?
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Post Post #1016 (isolation #94) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:51 pm

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In post 1013, Uncrowned wrote:I have notes. Whenever I go on my PC I'll do a case.

The defensiveness is a good point though. The thing is, if he's scum and he knows HH is town, then getting into a conflict with HH like he is here, wven if he wins for one night, will lead to him losing anyway. Could you see Mena really pushing that hard just to lose one day later, or do you think this could be coming from frustrated town that doesn't want to let who he thinks is scummy slip away?
I could see it being frustrated town definitely but in he's trying to claim that I'm somehow setting up a 1v1 between him and HH and I don't have a clue where he's getting that from.

It goes beyond the point of misrepping to just straight up grasping at straws.
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #95) » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:46 am

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In post 1031, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:If so, how were you reading HH's defensive posture yesterday wrt Icon?
Don't see how this is relevant but I think I touched on this Day 1. I was leaning scum on HH at the time but then his posting got better and he started cooperating.

The knowledge of HH being eth0s is also making me lean town more on him.
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #96) » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:47 am

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In post 1032, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:
In post 1015, the worst wrote:can we plynch mena
We may have caught scum and you want to redirect to lynch Mena? Ducky, literally wtf is this?
^^^

The timing of this post from duck gave me lots of bad vibes and I'm strongly TRing duck.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #97) » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:51 am

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In post 1033, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:I'm only asking because this reminds me of a game where he caught Korina early and then freaked out when people were scumreading him and clearing Korina.
Ugh don't remind me of that game's existence :lol:

But seriously I do remember him acting like that in Newbie 1949 but not to the level which he is here. I also don't think he got all defeatist in that game like he did here.
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #98) » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:34 pm

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In post 1057, Uncrowned wrote:I don't want to be rude or anything but I don't see any choice other than Mena being optimal. Isn't he the one causing the most controversy in this game in terms of perceived alignment?

LAMIST isn't a bad call, I think they've gone ever so slightly under the radar, but after doing my full game re-read I had them as I a decent TR.
I think Mena is probably the smartest call if only because we need to sort out his alignment asap. I'd say him or duck.

LAMIST has been pretty neutral so far today but I still think they're town overall.

Best case scenario is that emps flips scum PR.
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #99) » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:37 pm

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In post 1066, the worst wrote:sorry to remain contrarian but it's simply not worth withholding your roleblock target.
At the very least he should probably crumb it
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Post Post #1075 (isolation #100) » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:38 pm

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Actually I think it's safe to assume that emps likely isn't a scum PR since he's not all that resistant to his lynch as well as him claiming VT.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #101) » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:03 am

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In post 1081, the worst wrote:and NOT to be confused with expensive vomiting, or exploding vol-au-vents. god forbid.
I thought it stood for Erupting Volcano
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #102) » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:04 am

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In post 1088, Alduskkel wrote:so is there any reason for me to not put emps at L-1 now? seems like we've discussed everything there is to discuss and now we just need to see what happens
I'm good with it
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #103) » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:22 am

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In post 1103, the worst wrote:
In post 1097, Uncrowned wrote:Is there anything left to go over this phase?
imo no

@HH i considered encouraging massclaim this phase but due to the guilty i don't think it's necessary
At the very least I think massclaim is in order tomorrow. I'm not opposed to doing it today though like HH is suggesting.
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #104) » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:22 am

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In post 1109, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1088, Alduskkel wrote:so is there any reason for me to not put emps at L-1 now? seems like we've discussed everything there is to discuss and now we just need to see what happens
I'm good with it
Or I could just do it myself I guess

VOTE: emps
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #105) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:51 am

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We may as well just mass claim at this point right?
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #106) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 1141, Menalque wrote:I think I’m entirely willing to just lynch in (ducky, AF) at this point
So why does scum me kill HH, the person who was strongly townreading me and also pushing you yesterday?
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #107) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:44 am

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Alright then that was productive
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #108) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:28 pm

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I'm not ccing

Im at work so responses may not be quick but I'm echoing Aldus in saying what the fuck was that about
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #109) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:29 pm

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Yep that's exactly it. You uncovered my master plan.
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #110) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:35 pm

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In post 1193, the worst wrote:
In post 1184, AaronFrost wrote:I'm not ccing

Im at work so responses may not be quick but I'm echoing Aldus in saying what the fuck was that about
In post 1177, the worst wrote:i feel like we have a long happy future of you asking me this question
To be fair I think I reacted similarly to you in pyp a couple months back :lol:
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #111) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:42 pm

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Why are we lynching me?
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #112) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:42 pm

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The only thing that might mess this up is if scum intentionally no kills to try and frame someone but I dont think this is ideal for them.

Like if we lynch one of {AFF, Aldus, LAMIST} today then that leaves us with 5. The no kill would still leave us with 5 meaning 2 chances to lynch in {Aldus, LAMIST} (or whichever combo is left, that's just an example).

Scum is pretty much forced to kill and cant really employ that strategy here
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #113) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:00 pm

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It ain't me chief
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #114) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:07 pm

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VOTE: LAMIST

Out of Aldus/LAMIST I think LAMIST is most likely to flip scum

Duck when you were doing your catchup what was your read on BP? Did he feel similar to how he was in pyp?

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Post Post #1277 (isolation #115) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:17 am

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Please redact my nonexistent PT
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #116) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:18 am

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GG everyone :D

Thanks for modding Datisi
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #117) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:19 am

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In post 1243, Datisi wrote:Oh yeah, if anyone can/wants to offer constructive criticism of my modding, it's very welcome!
U suck

Nah just kidding you were a good mod
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #118) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:27 am

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In post 1241, the worst wrote:sorry for the late game pivot Aaron; I like to think I would've gotten you right if we weren't in auto :P
Once I realized we were in auto I was kinda like okay if they decide to lynch me I won't fight it too hard even though I didn't want to be mislynched

I was pretty sure lynching LAMIST was the best move anyways, and hey I was right :P

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