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Post #88 (isolation #7) » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:47 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 63, Alduskkel wrote:Also I legitimately want to know what was going through Chemist's head when he wrote post 19 and voted someone he just called conftown.
I'm fairly certain that was a joke for both the conftown thing and the following vote
I was pinged by 13 and then even more by 63. I have no idea what he's getting at with bringing up the NewbScum greeting tell thing when I'm not new by any stretch?
Also don't like how he's legitimately scumreads Chemist over his 19.
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Post #279 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:03 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 145, Alduskkel wrote:I mean you're saying WHAT you're scum reading but I'm not seeing any WHY here. Elaborate?
Basically it felt like you were trying a little 'too' hard to do things early on. Like the thing with the meta dive on my intro post, what exactly was that supposed to accomplish? It's like pseudo-scumhunting and doesn't actually accomplish anything wrt sorting my slot.
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Post #284 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:13 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 185, Alduskkel wrote:also in Micro 900 when scum!you was pressed on Day 3 to explain yourself you kinda flubbed it hard and this is reminding me of that a bit
That's a different situation from right now, early in Day 1, where most players' reads are probably wrong
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Post #288 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:18 am
Postby AaronFrost »
A little, yes because I think you're trying to distract from any conversation that is happening at the moment.
Like I get that if you're good friends with the mod and you want to joke around 'lynching them to overthrow them' during early game then that's fine, but you continuing to do it once we were out of RVS was a little sketchy imo.
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Post #293 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:26 am
Postby AaronFrost »
It's a way to look like you're contributing without actually taking a stance on anything.
I'm not sure that scum!you chooses to do that, but I'm also not sure why town!you chooses to do it either. Either way, it isn't very helpful when trying to sort your slot.
PEDIT: Whether or not we were in RVS isn't the point and maybe I should've phrased that differently. The point is, people were posting AI content and discussion was happening, and Mena continued with the meme.
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Post #299 (isolation #23) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:32 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 233, Look At Me Im So Town wrote:@Aaron- forgot you were in the game. You're on this wagon, what do you make of the past 5 pages of interactions.
I'm content with my Aldus vote for now. I think Icon comes off as having a pretty townie/solvey mindset while Aldus got weirdly and needlessly defensive of HH.
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Post #300 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:32 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing
Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.
pedit: like the whole "voting mod is an easy way to rvs without like actially really "comitting" to anything"
and also kind of adding on to it, its kinda easier because u already voted mod (which, on its own, is kinda awkward to do)
idk why im like scumcasing myself now but like whatever lul
Weird sentiment coming from someone who joined in on the meme but alright
In post 298, Menalque wrote:How does it look like I’m contributing at all? I think voting the mod is quite clearly a sign that I was memeing rather than contributing and idk why you think that a vote for the mod is an attempt to look like I’m contributing
Because it's not contributing useful content and isn't helping me sort you.
Right but a moment ago you said that it was bad because it was trying to look like I was contributing while not
My question is how you’re interpreting a meme vote as trying to
look like
contribution of content at all
That's more of what I meant when I said you weren't contributing is that you weren't contributing 'useful' content.
It was the timing of it. Like serious discussion is happening and you continued to meme, which is technically contributing content, but it's content that isn't useful and you don't take much stance on any current discussions.
I was contributing then I could have just said something along the lines of “ahh, I don’t think X’s push here feels genuine” or “I think this is prob TvT”
So in what sense is me intentionally not producing meaningful content there an attempt to look like I am?
I mean that would've at least been taking some kind of a stance, albeit a pretty weak one. That's content that'll help me sort you.
I've literally explained this already, you're posting a lot, which is contriubuting, but the content you've generated isn't useful.
I think you're getting too caught up in the phrasing of my posts.
Huh wild. I though Uncrowned was mildly townie for the most part.
Only post from them I didn't like was 203. He seems a little too confident in his emps read but then again Mena is apparently super confident in his Uncrowned read so I'm not sure that's AI.
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Post #395 (isolation #34) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:20 pm
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 368, Uncrowned wrote:The interaction, from what I had seen, was mostly over. The time to analyze it from the rest of the players had come. That was my take on it. If you don't like it, that's fine. But I legitimately just didn't see much from it. Like I just said above, at best it's a slight +town for Ico, and it left me still hard null on HH.
This is pretty much how I felt after the Icon/HH interactions, although I had a much stronger tr on Icon (still do) and HH's initial reactions pinged me a bit but nothing to strong on him. I'll likely revisit that at some point.
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Post #396 (isolation #35) » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:27 pm
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 383, Alduskkel wrote:I mean I went to the effort of browsing through all those games so even if it wasn't AI then I still wanted to show something for my effort lol.
And if it seemed like I was trying too hard it's because I think that helps move things past the RVS. Like, if I see something even a tiny bit scummy at that stage then I want to make it into a Thing so that people start having to take stances and stuff.
But it didn't really help move us out of RVS? And no one else commented on it or took a stance on it. So it didn't actually accomplish anything.
Pretty sure most people here could've told you that I'm not a new player by any means and that it was NAI.
Idk if I used the term correctly but basically I thought he made the vote for looks without any real intention of it being wagoned/lynched. So yeah, it's scummy in the sense that I thought he was voting in a way that was conscious of his own image rather than to get something done.
But I am less sure of that now.
-X
Eh it doesn't really read that way to me. I think Mena genuinely wants Uncrowned lynched here. If he was conscious of his own image he's probably hop on Aldus
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Post #489 (isolation #42) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:10 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 472, Alduskkel wrote:I'm just gonna come out and say that anyone who doesn't read or at least look at Micro 900 isn't doing their due diligence in reading me, Menalque, Iconeum, or emps.
I was loosely following that game while it was ongoing but I'll take a second look at it at some point.
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Post #509 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:58 pm
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 502, Uncrowned wrote:Also now I don't feel like an Aldus lynch would be good. Feels like we've lingered around this long enough, the lack of real opposition towards it leads me to believe that scum would be okay with this lynch. Aldus hasn't been particularly scummy imo.
I'll be honest, my vote is still on Aldus because I'm honestly not sure where else to put it right now. I've been feeling a little better about his recent posting.
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Post #539 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:43 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 534, Alduskkel wrote:@Aaron and Chemist: Are you still townreading Icon? If so, how do you explain the fake L-1 and claim request?
My tr on him has diminished, but I'm not sure if it's because he's been V/LA or not and I'd rather not use that to determine alignment. Now that he's back I'd like an answer to my question as well as an explanation for the L-1 thing.
In post 534, Alduskkel wrote:@Aaron and Chemist: Are you still townreading Icon? If so, how do you explain the fake L-1 and claim request?
My tr on it has diminished, but I'm not sure if it's because it's been V/LA or not and I'd rather not use that to determine alignment. Now that it's back I'd like an answer to my question as well as an explanation for the L-1 thing.
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Post #587 (isolation #57) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:06 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 583, Menalque wrote:Like I’m frustrated that he’s defending icon who *checks notes* made exactly the same move he did in his incredibly recent scum game, won’t get any traction as a wagon, hasn’t been townposting like uncrowned did after I voted him, and disappeared after brushing off making the exact same move he did as his incredibly recent scumgame
Why does scum!Icon make the same move two games in a row with similar playerlists?
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Post #588 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:07 am
Postby AaronFrost »
In post 586, Menalque wrote:Icon is p likely scum but also not here and therefore potentially a bad lynch
This is why I'm reluctant to lynch Icon because it hasn't been here and might be replaced unless it comes back. Like I'm not really townreading it anymore but I don't like lynching inactive slots either.