Micro 909: 09:12 (Game Over!)

[emps]

i claim town double voter lets lynch mod

VOTE: datisi

[emps]

aaaaaaa i swear i totally didnt completely forget abt mafiascum forgive meeeee

[emps]

i do like uncrowneds thinking tho

i mean i kknda dont because it involves scumreading me, but yknow what i mean

[emps]

wooo gamblers fallacy please tr me

pedit: like the whole "voting mod is an easy way to rvs without like actially really "comitting" to anything"
and also kind of adding on to it, its kinda easier because u already voted mod (which, on its own, is kinda awkward to do)

idk why im like scumcasing myself now but like whatever lul

[emps]

ehhh

VOTE: Iconeum

like seriously

that would be his 5th(?) scumgame in a row?

not how statistics works

also emps got prodded and I think he's a bit more likely to get prodded if he rolled scum yet again

tho the fact that it's holiday season makes it difficult to tell

i mean youve played with scum me like very recently and should know that like im relatively comfortable early game as scum, so i dont see why me getting prodded this early in is AI at all

pedit: i mean like, rvs is usually meant to like pressure someone or get them to like say smth ai, and like its kinda anti town to like vote mod during rvs i guess

[emps]

like its kinda more non commital then like actually participating in rvs

[emps]

i mean, not really

i guess its just like fucking around until someone actually does smth AI?

stop making me rethink everything i know abt rvs ;-;

[emps]

its sort of like the "easy way out" i guess

[emps]

datisi why r u actually good at getting pagetops

[emps]

once we get past today we will be unable to hit the 10 person lynch limit. once i activate the doublevoter powers i definetely have we can go home victorious.

[emps]

whos AFF? do u mean AF?

[emps]

also idk why ico SLed hh

they were kinda just like fucking around during rvs

which is like normal

is there smth like more specific abt their tone during those posts that im missing?

[emps]

also HHs reaction seems a bit much

i feel like most ppl wouldve just said "yeah, im fucking around during rvs, so what?"

ill reread to see if it feels fake or not

[emps]

actually hh did kind of say exactly that but like in 4 big posts and like angrily i guess

idk he just overreacted

but like relatively soon after (i think) he calmed down and basically backed off which is kinda unusual from my experience

but i mean like idk whos actually in the hydra and stuff so i guess its nai

[emps]

i dont get how ppl are actually confident in their own reads this early on ;-;

usually i have like half a read by now lmao

[emps]

i dont rly see what ur getting at in the uncrowned case, ill reread later probs

[emps]

lmao oof

[emps]

Like if you want to argue that it’s scum indicative for me you need to have a clear reason for why that particular behaviour is more likely to come from scum!me than town!me

What benefit do I get?

Also why would scum!me want to distract in that conversation?

Scum!you would want to do that if your partner wasnt handling themselves well and they were involved in the conversation, but it would be super sus, especially after a flip, so overall I'm leaning towards this being too attention grabby for your scumplay, particularly after the postgame conversation in Newbie 1971. That and your interaction after us are why I felt like it wasnt scum indicative for you.

I'm curious why Aaron went back and talked about it though. @Aaron, you caught up yet? Also Mena, you heard from Aaron, where are your reads at?

BP

honestly yeah im still kinda confused when rvs has actually ended

[emps]

i still dont understand menas case of uncrowned

[emps]

i think uncrowneds vote on me is reasonable tbh

and i havent exactly taken a stance on ico/hh either

and hes like solving and being productive

[emps]

ok im going to go read uncrowneds iso in his scum game or whatever because i honestly dont know what im doing rn lul

[emps]

wtf that was his first ever game?

[emps]

idk how to rly describe it but icon feels different from the scum game i just played with him

but then again hes probs good enough at the game to like do that on purpose

[emps]

plus im not exactly like the most threatening person here to scum!icon

[emps]

im probably just bad at the game but i dont rly see like much ai from hh i guess

but the way ico/hh kind of back off like relatively quickly for mafiascum at least is strange to me

like from my experience those types of 1v1s kinda last way longer than like 2 pages

[emps]

have been reading some isos

just noticed that lamist's iso doesnt actually have any posts from alfred

are the ones where u forgot to sign alfreds posts or like is he doing holiday things rn?

[emps]

hh just feels kinda

weird

to me

idk how to properly explain it

VOTE: hh

[emps]

Well, my other half said something extremely sus to me in the hydra chat. So
VOTE: HH

Mena voting the mod is very sus. If she dies then the game ends. You know what kind of person wants the game to end? A scum who didn't want to play scum. We got him boys.

-X

p-edit: lamist kinda beat me to it

If this game had started 3 games later it would be Micro 912 09:12. I formally request that Datisi speak with Micc and get those names flipped around when Micro 912 starts. If we get a majority vote she and Micc will have no choice but to accept.

-X

these jokes feel kinda awkward/forced

and i dont like the chemist vote either

[emps]

woo yeah lets go pg 19 7 days till deadline lets get a claim allldussss

[emps]

If people are going to keep calling me scummy for trying to get slots that are voting the moderator to actually play the game then I'm not thinking this is gonna be a very productive day.
-X

May I direct you to today’s date

he meant game days not irl days

[emps]

you manage to talk about me,

aaron

, emps,

AF

, and HH in those couple of posts while largely trying to shrug off the SR on you

Apparently I count as two people now

It's like a reverse hydra

thats called a RAS lul

[emps]

I'm just gonna come out and say that anyone who doesn't read or at least look at Micro 900 isn't doing their due diligence in reading me, Menalque, Iconeum, or emps.

I'm not going to read Micro 900 but also I don't really think you're flipping scum which is why I'm not voting you. I've played enough with the other three to have a decent grasp of their metas.

-X

ooh so like at least 2 games with me? im kinda curious abt who u r lul

[emps]

wait a minute... r u holdengolden?

only others i can rly think of are teacher, ducky, and cyrus but ur playstyle doesnt rly resemble any of theirs

[emps]

nah if it was holden there would be a lot more memeing

[emps]

hh just feels kinda

weird

to me

idk how to properly explain it

VOTE: hh

@Emps - how did you get from 441 to 443?

441 was mostly just looking at the ico/hh thing that happened

and then 443 was after i isoed some ppl (including hh)

[emps]

chem is ur read on mena like a townlean or smth rn?

what do u think of the aldus slot? did u unvote because of icos fake vote shenanigans or smth else?

uncrowned, when u gave intent, were u aware that icos vote was fake?

ico, why were u trying to get aldus to claim this early on?

[emps]

wait i forgot u were voting mod i thought u were on the aldu wagon uhm woops

[emps]

uncrowned, why would u declare intent to hammer with 7 days left till deadline? why do u think ico would want aldu to claim this early on?

also aldu i wouldnt consider getting n1 killed as a pr as "working out fine" lmao

[emps]

hh just feels kinda

weird

to me

idk how to properly explain it

VOTE: hh

@Emps - how did you get from 441 to 443?

441 was mostly just looking at the ico/hh thing that happened

and then 443 was after i isoed some ppl (including hh)

You did that in 6 minutes?

BP

i didnt do a very detailed analysis on each and every post so it was like realtively easy to skim 2 or 3 isos in 6 mins lmao

they werent very longs ones either

[emps]

I'm just gonna come out and say that anyone who doesn't read or at least look at Micro 900 isn't doing their due diligence in reading me, Menalque, Iconeum, or emps.

I'm not going to read Micro 900 but also I don't really think you're flipping scum which is why I'm not voting you. I've played enough with the other three to have a decent grasp of their metas.

-X

ooh so like at least 2 games with me? im kinda curious abt who u r lul

2 or 3, idr

look at me im using gifs

am i a cool kid yet

[emps]

oh wait i forgot abt popsofctown

[emps]

then again i think both times u played w me u repped in

[emps]

wait farkran? or nacl?

[emps]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa who r u

[emps]

should i be doing actually productive things instead of searching for who hh could be? probably

will i start doing said productive things? probably not

[emps]

pops, teacher, nacl, farkran, cyrus, holden, teacher, the worst

just tell me if its one of those

if its none im going to be super lost

[emps]

Can we talk about the fact that Iconeum is mirroring his scum play from Micro 900 and there are also a few players (Aaron and Chemist come to mind) who ~mysteriously~ townread icon? Also the dynamic between HH and Iconeum is looking kind of suspect. They had their little spat earlier, but then HH drifted into voting Chemist while Icon voted me. Since then they haven't really pushed each other at all, so it kinda looks like they were scumbuddies distancing.

@LAMIST and Uncrowned: What are your reads on Icon?
@Aaron and Chemist: Are you still townreading Icon? If so, how do you explain the fake L-1 and claim request?
@HH: Is Iconeum scummier or townier to you now compared to when you unvoted him?

Yes and I don’t see why a reaction test needs to be explained

I also don’t like your shade on me and Aaron’s townreads on Icon

i actually think that icon kinda needs an explanation for this one

the fake l-1 is fine, but pushing for a claim this early on? i dunno man

maybe he was testing to see whether or not aldu would refuse to claim just like last game?

[emps]

I think the lack of movement on icon is p telling tho

Emps why aren’t you voting icon?

because i dont scumread him...

i dont think ive said anything abt thinking ico is scum

plus he feels diff from micro 900 and like i was his scumbuddy that game so like yeah

[emps]

completely ignores lamists question then votes aldus without any real progression on his slot (or like... any slot at all)

yeah no i think im comfortable with this lynch actually

VOTE: chemist

l-1

btw

[emps]

ducky u lieeeeed i asked u on disc to in i thought u were staying out of games for team mafia

[emps]

I think

Chem, uncrowned, aldus are all town

AF, HH are in my eh pile

LAMIST is probably scum and I’d actually vote there over icon due to him probably getting replaced but I cba to try to divert the wagon from icon to there

Icon is p likely scum but also not here and therefore potentially a bad lynch

what about me

did u forget about me?

[emps]

also explain the aldus and chem trs more pls? also why do u think lamist is scum? hes been relatively null for me so far

[emps]

largely for postgame credit i'm gonna call ~1 scum in {emps,hh} for this thing

Emps. Real vote please.

-X

I legitimately don't know what you mean

I'm asking emps to place a real vote?
-X

why me/hh but not me/uncrowned?

what was diff between the ways they told me to vote s1 other than mod?

[emps]

vanity but i don't really want my vote on aldus aorn:
VOTE: emps

uhm whats aorn supposed to mean

also why u vanity voting close to deadline duckling

and who like says "oh yeah im making a vanity vote rn"

[emps]

also im kind of voting chemist because of like poe

i dont really scumread any1 that much tbh

which is kind of concerning tbh

[emps]

like if i had to give like a "read" for him i guess itd be like nullscum

[emps]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[emps]

i claim vt...

going to assume babysitter exists and protected s1 last night

the idea of uncrowned being scum hurts my head

[emps]

im still not quite sure how this setup works tbh

[emps]

honestly like theres a 0% chance that i dont get lynched today so like

[emps]

uncrowned should claim his target for n2 beforehand just in case its babysitter/roleblocker/maf rolecop and the mafia end up hittting babysitter

[emps]

i mean its optimal just to claim n2 action in any situation here i think

[emps]

if we hit scum today and uncr dies we still know that theyre cleared

[emps]

ehhhhh why am i even acting like im not gonna be the lynch today

[emps]

I mean i guess it's not terrible since i can at the least clear someone and you guys go into d3 worst case scenario with 2 confirmed townies. From there it's PoE

if emps is scum I kinda doubt he's strongman so I'm not sure if confirming someone is a super viable thought. I know, I know. But it kinda dawned on me that you're likely to be strongman shot tonight if there is one and isn't emps

What makes you think emps is more likely to be a Goon than a scum PR?

the fact that he made the nk, mostly

the mafia PRs can do both tho

emps who do you think is scum

if you’re really town then we’ll be in a tight spot tomorrow (unless there’s a second no death night) so you should be motivated to get ur reads out and stuff

is scum able to multitask in this game?

imo its hh/lamist

i really dont see where this mena sr is coming from

like sure his self meta is bad/annoying sometimes but thats not rly a reason to sr him

[emps]

i mean maybe the self vote? but like no ones really mentioned that apart from aaron and that was just 1 time

[emps]

I also don't wanna give mena any more reasons to be angry towards me and apparently my anonymity struck a nerve with him there, so yeah, I'm eth0s. Pretty much everything I've done in this game is within my scumrange. I want to say I don't normally do "prod votes" like I did to chemist and emps as scum, because I'm always paranoid that I'll get lynched for it on day ones when there's nothing better to go off of. But I probably have done that as scum, too.

I've caught scum!emps, I've mislynched town!emps as scum.
I've caught scum!mena (his predecessor screwed the game for him but there are still some parallels I've pointed out), I've pocketted mena as scum (but lost).
I've caught AF as scum, I've lost to scum!AF (where I was under the guise of Cliff Booth), I've rolled scum with AF (he replaced in) and won, I believe I've lost a game with him where we were both town, too.
I've rolled scum with uncrowned before (I replaced in, he carried us to victory), where we defeated a town The Worst.
Think I've played with The worst a couple times other than that but I'm worried I might misrep our past because I used to mix him up with Stargazer and someone else. Apparently he is Wooper from a jester nightless game I played recently. He was jester and I was scum that wanted to lynch him, so... yeah
Billy was town with me when we lost to scum aaron. Think we've won another town game together too.
Chemist was in the game with me and mena where I was scum and I lost to them.

Based on meta I've been telling Y this entire game that uncrowned is town. Been saying emps was sketchy, don't remember much past that. I think he said something earlier that kinda persuaded me to think he was town but there was def some gambler's fallacy going on in my mind too so idunno. Havent felt too strongly about AF based on meta in this game. The Worst is too good for me to read on meta. Billy I can't meta read that strongly. Chemist never does anything and therefore I never know how to read him.

Oh I also shot datisi in the face when she was a jailkeeper once

AMA

-X (eth0s)

i instantly knew this was eth0s when i saw the "i mislynched emps as scum"

[emps]

VOTE: emps

[emps]

hey datisi this is when ur supposed to insta lock thread

[emps]

smh 4th time rolling scum in a row

actual bullshit man i just wanna roll town

[emps]

datisiiii wheres the insta lock

[emps]

haha fuck im really good at this game arent i

[emps]

we were planning to kill hh n1 then uncrownwed n2

then everything got fucked up

i was also planning on bringing ico to lylo

yeah that didnt end well either

[emps]

no redactions from me

[emps]

i was planning on using strongman n1

def shouldve used ;-;

[emps]

i think we actually mightve decided to kill aaron instead of uncr if i used strongman n1 and hh flipped vt

[emps]

woooo i got targeted by both prs n1

i feel special

[emps]

wait no thats a bad thing

[emps]

...fuck

[emps]

what did i do so wrong this game ;-;

other than like basically get guiltied by uncr but we dont talk abt that

[emps]

duckling please tell me u targeted me as a doc action instead of a vig action

please

[emps]

ouch

[emps]

the fuck?????

reading uncrowneds pt im so confused

he didnt actually say anything rly bad abt me in his "overview of every page" thing except for the mod vote

he even says he likes some of the things i did

all of a sudden im at the bottom of his readlist???

am i missing smth here?

[emps]

so basically i kinda got like PoEd?

[emps]

on d1?

[emps]

i really hope i roll town next game i /in to

[emps]

mmm yeah i admit i fucked up on page 30

but like i was planning on explaining myself d2 cos by the time i checked on it was n1 already

but then uh i got roleblocked so like