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Also hi.
VOTE: Wimpo
Long time no see, Wimpo. Last I saw you was on your old account.
Really excited to play as an IC pairing with Nami this game though! Do we have any CCs?-
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Wouldn't want to out you in front of everyone here.
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I see that attempt to pocket me, Nami. You're gonna have to try harder than that.
we should probably lynch that Doro guy who voted an IC. that's pretty scummy.
VOTE: Looker-
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I'm in so many games with Doro right now but they're all ongoing. He's felt natural so far other than the unvote.-
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It is thoughIn post 68, ejjinami wrote:
That’s not a good jokeIn post 60, Hectic wrote:I'm lolhammering if anyone hits L-1.-
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Egix, what would you think if I said I would actually lolhammer you if you hit L-1?-
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Let's goooooo VOTE: Egix
Egix' response was actually pretty scummy. I'm out now by I'll explain when I get back. And yeah, it's less useful when you're the one putting him on L-1, slimer.-
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Yeah, so basically it's a 3/5 chance from my perspective to randomly hammer scum, so lolhammering isn't actually a bad strategy. But it depends on whether you think you have a chance of being lynched, since if not, an informed lynch is better than a mostly random one.
Egix' question to my question implied he doesn't have the same perspective as me in that most of the non-ICs out there are scum.-
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Ftr, I wouldn't actually have hammered, but this is making me think it might've been the right decision honestly. Misty, why unvote now rather than before?
Looker, why those 4? Or more specifically, why leave Doro out of the pool?-
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Also, I wanted to see who would put Egix on L-1 after hearing me say I would lolhammer. Whoever does makes them and Egix less likely to be a team. It was slimer unfortunately, but Mistu being online and not unvoting effectively means the same thing. The unvote later is a little weird though.-
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Why do you think Egix is a mislynch?In post 107, dsjstr wrote:Voting randomly and mislynching gets us to lylo for two days and we won't have info, just because Hectic gave an answer from a town pov does not make him town especially when you look at the bigger picture.
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Doro, you like me as scum because I was voting randomly and planning to lolhammer, right? What if I told you that my Egix vote wasn't random, and that I wasn't planning to lolhammer, that change anything?-
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This seems a little random. What didn't you like from his posts?In post 140, Wimpy wrote:eji lucky he is cleared.-
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Lul, I still don't understand what Doro means there. Doro, you didn't see Egix getting lynched there but think my strategy would lead to a mislynch on... Egix? Also, again, why did you think Egix was a mislynch at that point, meaning why did you think he was town?In post 117, ejjinami wrote:
...lmaoIn post 113, dsjstr wrote:
I don't know if he is but your strategy would lead to a mislynch,In post 111, Hectic wrote:
Why do you think Egix is a mislynch?In post 107, dsjstr wrote:Voting randomly and mislynching gets us to lylo for two days and we won't have info, just because Hectic gave an answer from a town pov does not make him town especially when you look at the bigger picture.
VOTE: Hecticand I didn't really see Egix getting lynched in this situation.
You’re calling egix a mis-lynch AND acting like you wanted to lynch him at the same time.
...or as if you really cared about not appearing as if you’re buddying Egix, saving him from a lynch or anything like that...
If dsjstr is scum, there’s a nice chance that egix is scum as well c:-
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Egix, what's your response to this post? Do you agree/disagree with my take here?In post 97, Hectic wrote:Yeah, so basically it's a 3/5 chance from my perspective to randomly hammer scum, so lolhammering isn't actually a bad strategy. But it depends on whether you think you have a chance of being lynched, since if not, an informed lynch is better than a mostly random one.
Egix' question to my question implied he doesn't have the same perspective as me in that most of the non-ICs out there are scum.
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Why? If you think you're gonna be lynched, why not take the 3/5 over risk yourself being lynched (which is a guaranteed mislynch from your perspective).In post 165, Egix96 wrote:First part seems fair, yeah. I'm too used to playing games where quickhammering is frowned upon, I guess.
For the bolded part though, I feel like the "since if not" part should be the opposite - if you do think you might get lynched, then you should try to be right, because if you lynch wrong and then you eat rope next that's obviously no bueno.-
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Lul, you're shading the ICs for making reads but giving out naked reads in every post? Mind explaining these?In post 168, Looker wrote:I don't see how reads are made on page 7. Were these particular ICs chosen for balance purposes?
I feel I have a good chance of hitting scum in {Hectic | DJ | Egix}, so VOTE: Egix96.
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^DoroIn post 160, Hectic wrote:
Lul, I still don't understand what Doro means there. Doro, you didn't see Egix getting lynched there but think my strategy would lead to a mislynch on... Egix? Also, again, why did you think Egix was a mislynch at that point, meaning why did you think he was town?In post 117, ejjinami wrote:
...lmaoIn post 113, dsjstr wrote:
I don't know if he is but your strategy would lead to a mislynch,In post 111, Hectic wrote:
Why do you think Egix is a mislynch?In post 107, dsjstr wrote:Voting randomly and mislynching gets us to lylo for two days and we won't have info, just because Hectic gave an answer from a town pov does not make him town especially when you look at the bigger picture.
VOTE: Hecticand I didn't really see Egix getting lynched in this situation.
You’re calling egix a mis-lynch AND acting like you wanted to lynch him at the same time.
...or as if you really cared about not appearing as if you’re buddying Egix, saving him from a lynch or anything like that...
If dsjstr is scum, there’s a nice chance that egix is scum as well c:-
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I mean, you simultaneously stated that my strat would lead to a mislynch on Egix, while also saying that you don't think Egix will be lynched there (so why do you think my strat could lead to him being lynched?).-
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VOTE: Misty
Misty, my compadre, what'd you think of Doro's (Djstr) stance on the Egix mislynch thing?-
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Why do you have your vote parked on me, Wimpo? Was this a RVS vote?
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Wanted to hear some reads from him.In post 192, Wimpy wrote:@hectic why the vote on misty?
From what I can see, Nami started most of those interactions. Anything else from him you dislike?In post 187, Chemist1422 wrote:VOTE: dsj
Primarily interacting with the ICs is a scumtell
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Doro+Egix are the sheriff and the deputy.
One of Chemist/Looker as the substitute officer.-
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That was more to understand Misty's read on you over defending you, Doro.
Egix is fine to lynch first.
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My vote on Egix wasn't random, I explained it later with the whole differing perspective thing.
I find you weird too <3-
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I recently discovered that I was infact not a rock. It kinda blew my mind.
Looker, you wanna actually give reasons for those reads at some point?-
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VOTE: LookerIn post 228, Looker wrote:They're mostly based off of how you guys treat each other. It's D1, though, so they're boldly bullshit. I should be more interested than I am.
Don't be discouraged. Got any examples for us?-
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She's done nothing but post unexplained reads lists. Also, I'm used to seeing interesting poking questions from her as town. 120 doesn't exactly show an interest for solving.-
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Voting for pressure exists ya know. I still prefer a Doro/Egix lynch, but Looker's trending up.In post 234, Espeonage wrote:Note to self: Heccers just left behind a single leading wagon for a shit vote.-
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Eh, Looker might be better actually. I can't even find one instance of a game-progressing question or read. Compare this to her ISO here.-
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So I shouldn't vote her at all? All wagons start off as vanity wagons. Do you disagree with the points I'm making on her?In post 237, Espeonage wrote:What pressure, it's a vanity wagon?-
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Oh yeah lul, forgot you were the meta-hater. We literally just had a game where meta was the main reason I was able to unteunnel on Norwee, leading to the flawless victory. It works.-
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Why are you defending Looker for doing close to nothing? Do you scumread Egix/Doro over her? I don't see anything she's done this game to warrant not pressuring her.-
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I mean, you can result to Ad hominem attacks if you'd like, but I just wanna hear some reasoning behind your reads, Looker.-
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She mentioned she was in a previous game I think.In post 253, ejjinami wrote:
Looker is female?In post 235, Hectic wrote:She's done nothing but post unexplained reads lists. Also, I'm used to seeing interesting poking questions from her as town. 120 doesn't exactly show an interest for solving.
To me she looks as if she has no idea what to do (which might come from either alignment) but she’s forcing herself to try and help as much as she can.
Her last response to my question really made me feel that way
Why is not having an answer for a read a town trait? Or unless you're saying scum wouldn't give a read they don't have an explanation for.-
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What changed your mind on me, Doro?
Egix, remind me why you're voting Doro again? Anything changed since 67?-
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The Egix wagon consisting of 2 ICs and no one else is a pretty good sign of Egix being scum, I think. Find it hard to believe scum wouldn't take advantage of a townie being voted by both ICs like that.
VOTE: Egix
Looker improved. New solve is Egix+Doro+Chemist
If Looker is scum, Espeonage is probably also scum.-
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No, wait, the votecount doesn't explain that team unless they're hard bussing. Whatever, I'l think about this later.-
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Actually, playing mafia at work is too much fun.
Doro, I don't believe you explained why you flipped your read on me.
Egix, who are you actually scumreading? That lost post feels very reactive. Is it just Doro with a pinch of Misty?
Espeonage, if you think Doro and Egix are the designated mislynches, you think the team is exactly Hectic+Chemist+Looker. Yeah?-
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Idk, thinking about teams with all this potential bussing is hard; never been good at pre flip associations. I think the right play in this format is to have all of us interact with a guiding hand from the ICs, and then let the ICs pick the lynch EoD.-
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Can't catch up, but online for the next hour. Want me to move my vote, Nami? I still like the look of Egix from that recent VC.-
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Partner stuff:
Think Doro + Egix is good based on never voting each other until the end, and the whole mislynch debacle where Doro describing him as that. Chemist was only voting and focusing on Doro/Egix yesterday so he's not the third in that scenario. Actually, looking through Looker's ISO, it's mostly the same of alternating between Doro+Egix as votes/pushes. Meanwhile, Wimpo/Espeonage never vote for either or seriously push either yesterday.
Preliminary solve is Doro+Egix+Espeonage
If Doro town, my next guess Looker+Espeonage+Egix, based on how Espeonage interacted with me upon entering the game, and soft-defended Looker.
But then that rules Misty out, and he gunned for Doro over Egix EoD yesterday, so maybe Doro!town implicates Misty!scum, with a third of Espeonage just because? Lul, I'm probably focusing on associations too much.-
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In post 86, Chemist1422 wrote:
or I could unvote I guess
but will I???
find out next time on dragon ball zMisty, I don't think you ever explained why didn't unvote in that first post but then did later.
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In post 107, dsjstr wrote:Voting randomly and mislynching gets us to lylo for two days and we won't have info, just because Hectic gave an answer from a town pov does not make him town especially when you look at the bigger picture.
VOTE: Hectic
Doro, I know you said that you stop suspecting me because you thought I was trying to solve Looker's alignment, but then why didn't you consider Egix!scum here? The logic previously was me!scum implies Egix!mislynch. So if I become town, why is Egix still town?In post 248, dsjstr wrote:VOTE: Looker
I might have been wrong about Hectic
Looking at Lookers ISO it doesn't look good
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Yeah, explain the reason for this townread basically.In post 277, dsjstr wrote:I have been town reading Egix for a while now, that was the original reason why a wagon was formed on me. I also see hectic as a town which is how I came to the conclusion of who the three mafia are.-
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?? I've made my thoughts clear. Slimer, why are you townreading Doro? Do you not think him soft defending Egix yesterday + never voting him till when he had to + never actually giving a reason for townreading him is really bad?
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