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Post #19 (isolation #1) » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:56 pm
Postby Kanna »
In post 6, Ame wrote:1. What is the origin of your username?
2. Why is Compath so townie?
3. When is the last time you had a strawberry?
4. Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
5. On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
6. If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
7. Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?
1. It's a character from a video game I like!
2. ?
3. Last week
4. Watching a new episode of your favorite show, playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game
5. a strong 7
6. 18?
7. yes
In post 53, Ame wrote:Thinking about it, if you don't answer the questions in one go, their validity is compromised.
backtracking because you don't wanna answer me huh?
What do you mean? If you answer them as a group, I'll respond to you. Tit for tat. Every time someone's done this little game of avoiding my questions, they've been scum because they fear that I'll actually be able to distinguish them. There's literally no town motive for avoiding my questions, especially if it will help you sort me. But you're more interested in making a case than actually sorting me.
was "Hectic" referring to Officer "Officer" Officer or i? well, since i'm here anyway; i'll answer! i'm new around here but i think coffee was banned because it was too powerful and used as a means of perceiving others' thoughts, to such an extent where some even regarded it as mind reading/mind control!
is there anyone here you suspect may have coffee on their person? :conspicuously looks around:
also, are the bad vibes from slaxx because of takes that feel forced or the "will die on this hill" insistence regarding not answering the RQS?
Sorry Officer/trainer, must've confused you for someone else! Also no I guess...
About slaxx: partially, but some of his other posts also felt weird on first pass. I'll explain it soon. Why did you like them?
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Post #141 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:19 pm
Postby Kanna »
In post 85, Hectic wrote:also, are the bad vibes from slaxx because of takes that feel forced or the "will die on this hill" insistence regarding not answering the RQS?
In post 115, Hectic wrote:
Inform Emoji Kanna that what I asked her about are things I disliked upon a second look at slaxx' posts.
sorry, misread that first post. Still, I think my answer is kind of the same. You might have to rephrase that second question for me: are you asking me what *you* disliked on a second pass?
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Post #142 (isolation #10) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:27 pm
Postby Kanna »
Luca's latest takes were pretty interesting because they seem to be the opposite of most reads I've seen. I just want to say I wouldn't look into the coffee thing or the wow thing because ~reasons~. From my POV, it looks a bit opportunistic to push me on those things but I could be biased.
Posts 59 - 61 all seem like reads for the sake of reads. I don't relate to any of them at all and it seems contrived.
78 is a bit weird - I thought Ame was joking about the answer key? Although I can't tell if Slaxx is being serious here himself, but he certainly seems to be taking what Ame said at face value.
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Post #147 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:35 pm
Postby Kanna »
@Luca; I didn't think you pushing me was opportunistic, I thought the fact that 2 of your points against me were my jokes looks like bad faith from my POV.
In post 147, Kanna wrote:@Luca; I didn't think you pushing me was opportunistic, I thought the fact that 2 of your points against me were my jokes looks like bad faith from my POV.
It's not the fact you made a joke, it's just that I would have expected you to reply/continue the joke if it were done for any other reason than to display a lighthearted mindset, which is something that comes more from scum.
The joke was made for personal enjoyment and it is being carried on actually. But I guess I can kind of see where you're coming from.
I think this might be a misunderstanding; will come back and think about it tomorrow
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Post #175 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:27 pm
Postby Kanna »
In post 160, Iconeum wrote:I'm 'intense' because ame is pinging me like crazy
The holding on to RQS, how ame refuses to prove it has caught scum in the past, the refusal to talk about it, the refusing to engage with me upon it (exchange questions, withdrawing once ame realized it would have to actually answer my concerns)
And I have literally caught scum in the past for literally what ame is doing right now. I think it was in teh newbie queue. Would have to look it up if anyone's interested.
Is it the game Luca linked? Otherwise, I'd be interested in seeing it.
In post 142, Kanna wrote:Luca's latest takes were pretty interesting because they seem to be the opposite of most reads I've seen. I just want to say I wouldn't look into the coffee thing or the wow thing because ~reasons~. From my POV, it looks a bit opportunistic to push me on those things but I could be biased.
what do you mean by 'interesting'? what do you make of it?
It's interesting because he's going against the current. E.g he put clidd who was p scumread earlier as a TR while you/hectic/me as an SR. He hasn't put out all the reasoning yet, so I'm not sure.
@luca; would be interested in the rest of the reasoning btw
luca did, i was just on the wagon for that and other reasons as well
so what I should have said was smt like: 'ive seen scum get caught for RQS in teh past' and not 'Ive caught scum for RQS in the past'
Alrighty, I'll look over that game tomorrow. I've also been in a game where the rqs poster was scum, but in that game, he used to try and grab the "town leader role," early (I think?) which is kinda different to what Ame is doing.
In post 142, Kanna wrote:Luca's latest takes were pretty interesting because they seem to be the opposite of most reads I've seen. I just want to say I wouldn't look into the coffee thing or the wow thing because ~reasons~. From my POV, it looks a bit opportunistic to push me on those things but I could be biased.
what do you mean by 'interesting'? what do you make of it?
It's interesting because he's going against the current. E.g he put clidd who was p scumread earlier as a TR while you/hectic/me as an SR. He hasn't put out all the reasoning yet, so I'm not sure.
@luca; would be interested in the rest of the reasoning btw
What’s your read on Clidd, Kanna?
Do you think going against the current is more Town or scum indicative?
I’ll get to the other reasoning soon, although the Hectic SL was based on the ‘officer’ gimmick which is making him hard to read. Based on content he’s entirely null.
As for clidd, not sure. I know he does do walls as town but idk if he's incapable of doing them as scum
@clidd, do you have any other scumgames I can look at? That one you linked was v short
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Post #214 (isolation #24) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:12 am
Postby Kanna »
@luca; (carrying on from that post)
I think going against the current could go either way, it depends on whether the reasoning is good? I do kind of get gut feelings that scum might purposely go against the current though so people don't accuse them of sheeping. Would still like to hear the rest of your reasoning
i've literally never seen hectic do that so i don't know what it means
it's funny and great, but i can't really read him based off of that
From my experience, Hectic joking around is his town meta + if he is town, he can still towntell over it. I'm not sure I've seen that in this game though
In post 85, Hectic wrote:also, are the bad vibes from slaxx because of takes that feel forced or the "will die on this hill" insistence regarding not answering the RQS?
In post 115, Hectic wrote:
Inform Emoji Kanna that what I asked her about are things I disliked upon a second look at slaxx' posts.
sorry, misread that first post. Still, I think my answer is kind of the same. You might have to rephrase that second question for me: are you asking me what *you* disliked on a second pass?
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Post #375 (isolation #30) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:33 am
Postby Kanna »
(cont) It's hard to explain but some of his reasoning really ~pulls me in~ and from past experience, I think it means someone is town. Maybe I should rethink Ico
In post 331, Kanna wrote:@clidd; so what are your thoughts on playing scum? do you really not like it or were you busy in your scumgames/some other reason?
The two games were coincidental, I had outstanding issues to resolve.
you said you have 2 games; can you link the other one?
Slaxx was scummy before Luca's push, but the reasoning for Luca's push felt weird to me. If it's TvS, scum is Luca imo
You ignored my response to your reason for SR’ing me in 217. Why is that?
Is there anything you want to engage me about regarding the Slaxx push?
Also for this, I didn't ignore that reasoning, my reasoning for SRing you was because of your reasoning wrt to the Slaxx push. Don't have any questions for you about that though.
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Post #382 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:52 am
Postby Kanna »
In post 358, Hectic wrote:
Inform Conniver Kanna that I saw things I disliked and was asking whether she disliked the same things or something else not considered by Mass Spec Analytical Unit.
but officer! Didn't you say you generally liked slaxx's takes?
In post 81, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee here because Officer "Officer" Officer is now off duty!
normally i'm just assigned to do paperwork and file cabinets around here, so i'm looking forward to doing some real field work! first, props to the mod for 4 PageTop VCs in a row! secondly, i find Ame intentionally ignoring questions regarding Compath very strange, but i think i can see where she's going with her RQS thing which might be civilian-indicative. we shall see!
slaxx has had good takes so far
other than his DDL read where it didn't look like to me that DDL was frustrated from that post.
DDL, so was your original vote on compath serious or not?
that's all for now!
I don't think I saw any takes that you thought he was trying hard or not liking him before that.
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Post #437 (isolation #38) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:02 pm
Postby Kanna »
In post 386, Slaxx wrote:Kanna the issue I have with Luca-scum is at the time, Clidd and I were both fairly vulnerable in our positions. He seemed to arbitrate and intervene early into our 1v1 spat. If we are both town, and Luca is scum, what motivation does he have to do that?
not sure which part you're talking about. can you quote the a bit or something?
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Post #438 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:04 pm
Postby Kanna »
In post 387, Slaxx wrote:I still get the vibe Ame believes what she’s saying. Now, what’s up for debate is how much they are applying it to move the game forward. Obviously it’s easy to tell the truth as mafia if you talk about non-game related things.
I think, though, that there is enough “this-game” content wrapped up in that analysis to not give me much pause on sustaining a town read.
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Post #440 (isolation #40) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:09 pm
Postby Kanna »
In post 390, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee will step in for Officer "Officer" Officer!
Kanna:
>see slaxx' takes
>hey, i agree with Icon being towny for that push, and Compath's 8 and 9 do feel like filler (which can be a good scumtell), DDL i disagree with but whatever
>like these takes overall
>see you say you're getting bad vibes
>recheck his posts
>realise that the Icon and Compath takes aren't difficult or nuanced ones to make and so feel somewhat forced
>see his "die on this hill" post which feels a little over the top stubborn
>reply to you about these things
now if you'll
excuse
me, i'm getting back to watching Knives Out
So you're saying you just changed your opinion between those 2 posts? sighhh I might believe you
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Post #450 (isolation #43) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:27 pm
Postby Kanna »
I think Ame sounded really genuine in #415, like she was pouring her heart out. I think Clidd might be town cause he seems really invested in solving; don't know if scum goes this far.
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Post #451 (isolation #44) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:30 pm
Postby Kanna »
Luca I still don't feel good on wrt to slaxx, because imo, slaxx looked bad, but I could kind of see him taking advantage of that if he was scum and slaxx was town.
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Post #484 (isolation #46) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:19 am
Postby Kanna »
In post 479, Hectic wrote:Inspector "Inspector" Inspector flashing his badge.
In post 477, Ame wrote:Especially since me and Hectic are in the game and aware that town Luca should read you as town here. If he were to do otherwise it would look really bad
Detective Ame is correct here. Dark Knight Luca reading you as town for activity/engagement should be completely non-alignment-indicative to you, Professor Clidd.
In post 359, Luca Blight wrote:‘Dislike’ as in you’re scumreading me for it, or simply think I’m wrong to do so?
I’ve never said I believe Clidd will always replace out as scum btw. I feel as though he’d be more disinterested as scum, however.
I believe
scum!Luca
would use this information in a very different way than it was done here.
In post 435, clidd wrote:Well, I believe that the differences in quality of playerlists are not significant to invalidate the read, so I won't comment it. Until now, I was relying on the fact that he used information about me transparently, something that I would not hesitate to associate with
town!Luca
. However, with these comparisons,
Hectic
, the problem is that you are assuming that he would follow the same
scum
line of reasoning as the game in which both of you participated together. Could you explain why he did not avoid using the same neutral method, considering that you are here too, and could, evidently, unmask him ?
Also I don't necessarily think clidd is scummy for this, but these posts show a double standard/contradiction imo. Post 1 suggests clidd thinks scum!luca would push him (with traceable history between them) but post 2 suggests that clidd thinks he would change it up to not get caught.
In post 419, clidd wrote:In this case, it is more difficult to use the analysis method by association, since these posts agree with a game pattern that aims at more frequency and objectivity than necessarily in the numerical expansion factor. Even with a metaread applied, this constancy is difficult to discriminate specifically to define a possible alignment. As a result, he remains null, until I am able to distinguish him correctly. I would like an opinion from those who have played with him.
Can you like, speak in a non esoteric tone? I read this 3 times and didn't understand this and I'm surprised no one is calling you out
That's my normal tone. Occasionally, I post notes to remember later.
no problem i guess im saying can you explain what you do you mean by the highlighted post
I think he just means he can't read you and wants someone who has played with you to say something; someone correct me if I'm wrong
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Post #494 (isolation #50) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:39 am
Postby Kanna »
Actually has anyone played with DDL before? I played with him in a marathon and his tone is pretty similar (town) but I'm not sure what he's like in normal games or scum.
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Post #515 (isolation #54) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:30 pm
Postby Kanna »
@DDL; according to you, what's the difference between ico vs clidd and luca vs slaxx? Also why is compath a TR when he pushed clidd in a similar way to Ico?
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Post #516 (isolation #55) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:43 pm
Postby Kanna »
I have to go to school starting tomorrow so I'm not sure how active I'll be. As on rn, I still want Luca; Hectic brought up some good points + I had a few pings from a while back that I still don't feel good on.
Also what made you change your mind wrt to your original SR on me? Iirc, you said you agreed with clidd's point about me which was literally my rqs answers were short; do you really think that makes me scummy?
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Post #645 (isolation #59) » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:06 pm
Postby Kanna »
In post 529, Ame wrote:@Luca, can you go into your Compath read? Particularly your reasoning as of 129?
@Hectic, can you provide and explain your Compath read?
@Slaxx, can you go into your Compath read? Particularly what changed your opinion on 8 and 9 as indicated in your 227? And what influenced his placement in your 231 list?
@Ico, can you elaborate on why you were reading Compath as town as of 321? Additionally, why were you worried Compath had a meta read of you if he was town reading you (185)? Additionally, why did you ask who Compath was in 28 but not ask the same of me?
@Kanna, can you go into your Compath read? Particularly your reasoning as of 328.
Additionally, I'd like to know what each of you thinks about the points I made against Compath.
I’m on mobile so I can’t give examples, but I remember a chain of their posts being really townie a few pages back. I do want to take another look since it’s been a while + I didn’t agree with their readlist.