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[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: Heaven

For being a place on earth.

[GeorgeBailey]

Evertyone has scary avatars

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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This is original avatar do not steal

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I definitely looks original.

ty i put a lot of time an effort in the shading

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is the green thing the toy?

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Bats are cute

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Rats are precious

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Gobbledygook is obviously part of the royal family

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My dog looks like a seal.

That would seal the deal for me

[GeorgeBailey]

how about another joke, murray?

[GeorgeBailey]

this is avatar bullying

[GeorgeBailey]

GeorgeBailey - Do you believe 102 raises a good point?

To phrase your question: "Do you agree with Pops that you really wanted to post that for a while, and that your rvs isn't AI"?

Mr.Wizard man of dinosaur isles, I agree.

[GeorgeBailey]

Why specifically 102?

[GeorgeBailey]

Why specifically 102?

I disliked it. I can see other reasons to scumread me for that post, but the one she used was dubious in my mind.

It seemed more like a joke than an actual reason

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Then again, i've only ever played against Pops once as Scum. So Idk

Spoiler:

She also called me out as scum pretty damn quickly.

[GeorgeBailey]

His critique on Wicked is unfair

VOTE: GobbledyGook

[GeorgeBailey]

Especially since you held your vote on him since RVS, then accuse him of "lack of trajectory"

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Yep, but they picked up their role pm.

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So they'll probably post shortly

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Hopefully

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I knew they were a place on Earth

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because I said so

[GeorgeBailey]

Belinda Carlisle called me that, but Train calls me overrated. OPM thinks 'm a halfpipe, whatever that's supposed to mean.

HEAL: Heaven

For that response alone.

[GeorgeBailey]

My vote on Wickedestjr was never random.

So this was your progression on Wicked?

Hey everyone

Who should I vote for?

VOTE: Wickedstjr

How was his post scum indicative?

[GeorgeBailey]

Surely I can cancel out George's heal yeh?

I'll cancel your cancel

HEAL: Heaven

[GeorgeBailey]

I am a changed man

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Who?

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Scummy baseline?

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Pops are you serious?

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It's a free country

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i was considering it already, but I wanted to first give george/para a chance to remove their heals if they disagree, since they're both (originally at least) jokes

nah he gud

[GeorgeBailey]

HEAL: Heaven

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it had to be done

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that's what Ank said anyway and she's pretty smart so it's probably true.

Well, she IS smart I think.

So there's no arguing with that.

[GeorgeBailey]

Wait. Can we mark as many people as we want, because that is the way I have read this

Yep, but we lose if Marked is majority

[GeorgeBailey]

Morning was blackmailed into healing

[GeorgeBailey]

I can’t tell if you’re trolling?

Hurting doesn't do anything if you haven't healed anyone.

[GeorgeBailey]

Morning was blackmailed into healing

Can you elaborate on this? Thanks.

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[GeorgeBailey]

When I said ‘if another player becomes obvious town’, I wasn’t saying that I thought Heaven was obvious town.

You're acting like Heaven is off-limits for a lynch.

[GeorgeBailey]

What gave you that impression? I certainly don’t feel that way.

Basically stuff like:

I agree with you. We shouldn’t have marked someone so early in the game.

It’s not the end of the world that he has been marked - it just means that if another player
becomes really obvious town, then we can’t protect that person from death, thus sacrificing our only power in this otherwise mountainous setup.

You're giving off a tone like Town made a huge mistake, and now we have to damage control. (I'm sorry if that's wrong, just my general impression)

I think marking someone, regardless of alignment is almost necessary if we're going to get out of RVS. You think it's bad, I think it's fantastic! It's almost like we have a flip right now. If Heaven is Town, then the Scumpair obviously didn't vote for him. And if he's scum, then his other partner is in here somewhere (I think it's probably Pops if he's Scum).

Mark

Heaven (5)- Paragon, GeorgeBailey, popsofctown, Morning Tweet, Heaven
Heaven has been Marked! Heaven can no longer be targeted for nightkills nor can Heaven be Healed/Hurt

[GeorgeBailey]

As it stands and based on my current reads I think that at the very least one scum was on my heal wagon. 'm really not sure as to the motivation, but that's where 'm at right now.

Who are you scumreading/leaning that healed you?

[GeorgeBailey]

I guess to re-phrase in a more dishonest way:

Who are you townreading the least out of who healed you?

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May I ask why the MT Townread? She seems very null to me right now.

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Like, if someone went from being an Atheist to a Christian or some change like that, you'd expect there to be some big reason behind it, yeah? But if you found out it was just some super tiny reason, that'd be a bit unbelievable.

You'd be surprised how people can lose their faith over the littlest shit. But yeah, I see your point.

The only thing is, reads this early in the game are still very weak, and are more subject to change.

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I still think Pyrra is the best choice right now. Her predecessor was pretty scummy.

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That being said I think you have the right conclusion on pops and there's no one I'd currently vote over her

What do you think about Gobble/Pyrra?

[GeorgeBailey]

Would you say you're good at scum?

I'm hot garbage as scum, and Pops can vouche for that.

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Fusion was also like my 3rd game ever on this site. I barely had a concept on how to play Town, let alone scum.

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Note that this immediately narrows the scum pool to [Elbirn, me, gobble, and NM]

Yep, and seeing gobble in that pool make sense too.

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If i understand correctly, gobble got votes for mainly this reasoning. I wanted to bring up that someone specifically asked for him to outline his reasoning, so it makes sense that it admittedly wasn't very strong that early on. additionally, the way gobble responded with frustration makes me kind of lean town.

I hate to be that asshole that asks why every time. But like...

why

?

Why

does his frustration seems Town to you? Scum can act equally frustrated when their push gets shot down. He didn't even seem frustrated to me.

[GeorgeBailey]

But if Heaven is town, then why wouldn't either of the scum vote to heal him?

I'm guessing because Scum wants one of their own to be Marked. Town has less of an incentive to Lynch marked people because they're "confirmed Town".

[GeorgeBailey]

you wear very mature glasses though you have an air of experience

that's pretty poetic

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I prefer drawing

Spoiler:

Wickedestjr's

alignment

Don't worry about it, i'll draw it for you.

Spoiler:

[GeorgeBailey]

screech using your sonar ears or whatever

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Is that the new Naruto?

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popsofcnaruto

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water shoes

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It kind of feels to me like he replaced out because of Heaven getting marked. That makes sense to me given that it was his first post after he got marked. This game just started recently and he remains active elsewhere. I don't enjoy having to read into things like this but it's hard to ignore.

What's your assessment of that? Do you think it was out of frustration, and is that town or scum frustration?

I think he replaced out due to frustration with the game. I don't see what other reason there could be. He did receive votes from me and George, but I don't think he would leave for that alone - that's just part of the game that he should be used to by now.

gobble's replace out actually felt kind of townish to me (if it was because of the early heal) and that's why I un-voted. But Pyrrha's catchup gives me a bad vibe for some reason and I'm looking forward to seeing more from her.

Him replacing out should probably NAI tbh. People replace out all the time due to personal reasons.

[GeorgeBailey]

isn't that angle-shooting at this point?

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I do not believe speculating on reasons for replacing out to be angleshooting.

Oh, well alright then. That' s actually quite a fair point. It gives me even more of a reason to keep my vote on him.

I'm an advocate for making game threads private so that it's more difficult to analyze, but no one else is into that.

That sounds like it should be done for tournies or anything super competitive. I love watching other games so it'd be a shame if that were done.

[GeorgeBailey]

I do not believe speculating on reasons for replacing out to be angleshooting.

Oh, well alright then. That' s actually quite a fair point. It gives me even more of a reason to keep my vote on him.

I'm an advocate for making game threads private so that it's more difficult to analyze, but no one else is into that.

That sounds like it should be done for tournies or anything super competitive. I love watching other games so it'd be a shame if that were done.

[GeorgeBailey]

I think my computer is dying

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: Not_mafia

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I like cats

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I was mostly waiting on Not_Mafia to respond to his wagon

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: Pyrra Nikos

[GeorgeBailey]

I think Gobble/Pyrra is a reasonable lynch for today. NM is pretty much null.

[GeorgeBailey]

Join me on the conquest for scum

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Pyrrha is at L-1 btw

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Yeah I agree with you MT. I prefer pyrrha since it's safer than lynching a null slot.

[GeorgeBailey]

in hindsight probably should've seen that coming

He didn't even bat an eye

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in hindsight probably should've seen that coming

He didn't even bat an eye

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

[GeorgeBailey]

Isn't Rena a hardware store

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I would rather lynch Not Mafia tbh

[GeorgeBailey]

What do you mean what? Do you have any reasons to Townread him?

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Wicked was also the one who was really against Heaven getting marked... But so was Elbirn?

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MT who is your first pick to lynch then?

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MT who is your first pick to lynch then?

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I'm starting to see where Pops is coming from with Heaven. My initial reaction was SRing Not_Mafia for the quick hammer.

Especially when Pyrra didn't even react to her wagon.

[GeorgeBailey]

Elbirn seems to have not read Heaven positively from the start, and as such, also did not mark

He didn't just "not mark", Elbirn actively opposed it, voted heaven and HURT: 'd him.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Heaven
HURT: Heaven

Surely I can cancel out George's heal yeh?

[GeorgeBailey]

always click preview, kids

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it had to be done

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I can't believe i'm scum

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who can?

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dirty rat!

scumlocked

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I'll vote Heaven if you give her the rat doll.

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@MT why is pops a more preferable lynch than Not_Mafia?

[GeorgeBailey]

but Heaven to kill wicked over George

But i've been Heavily townreading him since the beginning. Do you think he'd NK me regardless?

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If you dislike Paragon’s questions, why are you voting Pops?

I haven’t ISO’d everyone yet. I noticed my predecessor voted both Wicked and Pops, so it made sense to start with them.

These don't seem very partner-y.

[GeorgeBailey]

Why are you hurting the entire playerlist including yourself?

And this would just be playing dumb

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Or Canadian!

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A british bat with a monicle would be cute

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Lynching Heaven tomorrow in that case sounds almost completely required.

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now why would you think that

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If I was Town?

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Probably Gobble

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If I was Town, and not Sticky Fruit Vendor Jester, then I would have Marked Gobble.

[GeorgeBailey]

i miss heaven

Well i'm sorry i'll never be him

VOTE: Heaven

[GeorgeBailey]

Pops is this a joke or do you think i'm really that dumb

[GeorgeBailey]

Miltanks are fucking terrifying

[GeorgeBailey]

Also happy Cakeday

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well then

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A British bat that hates rats

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HEAL: Paragon

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i'm a jester

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elbrin vote with me

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Why don't you want my vote?

I thought you were already scumreading him?

[GeorgeBailey]

idk how to feel about being townread because of how shit my scumgame is lmao.

(Sorry Norwee)

[GeorgeBailey]

I've also played against scum!DDL before, and he seemed a lot more aggressive than he is now. so idk if he's scum here.

[GeorgeBailey]

HEAL: Elbirn

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We can also have two marks as long as we lynch one of them today or tomorrow in the f5 if I understand this correctly

When you put it like that, if Heaven gets lynched we def shouldn't mark anyone.

[GeorgeBailey]

We can also have two marks as long as we lynch one of them today or tomorrow in the f5 if I understand this correctly

When you put it like that, if Heaven gets lynched we def shouldn't mark anyone.

[GeorgeBailey]

But if we Mislynch a Marked then Town has an extra day. And if it is scum, then the game just ends.

It feels like marking should only be done D1 tbh.

[GeorgeBailey]

Do birds have hands?

[GeorgeBailey]

Towniest is Morning Tweets for me. She was one of the first on the Pyrra wagon and I don't see it as bussing.

[GeorgeBailey]

If Pops knows N_M lolhammers during games, why would she bring her scum partner to L-1?

I don't see the case for Scum Pops here.

[GeorgeBailey]

Do you think I'm scum, George?

Not really. I wanted to vote you at first for pressure, but right now i'm actually feeling DDL.

VOTE: DDL

George mark Elbirn

Elbirn (3)- popsofctown, GeorgeBailey, Morning Tweet

HEAL: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelbirn

[GeorgeBailey]

I actually don't really want elbirn to be marked lmao.

In fact, I don't really want anyone to be marked.

HURT: All

It feels like once we Mark someone, lynching Heaven is almost a must, even if he towntells later.

[GeorgeBailey]

rip bat

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I also have a bad tinfoil feeling scum!pops is leaving me alive for WIFOM purposes during LyLo.

[GeorgeBailey]

Sounds good to me

[GeorgeBailey]

that was a george vote

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: Elbirn

But this is an elbirn vote

[GeorgeBailey]

At first I thought, "Why would Town try and mark themself today? Has to be scum."

But if Elbirn is marked, and he's scum, then it's a dead giveaway if we mislynch today and Town doesn't lose tonight.

UNVOTE: Elbirn

Who are you thinking right now DDL?

[GeorgeBailey]

Actually, scum would probably want to push a marked today.

[GeorgeBailey]

Oh sick, I read the rules wrong. I thought Marked players counted towards the scum parity with Town. Yikes. Uhhh.

Why do you want Elbirn marked?

[GeorgeBailey]

nice

[GeorgeBailey]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[GeorgeBailey]

Well then, Lylo is gonna be fun.

[GeorgeBailey]

ayy, I sort of, kind of, knew it!

[GeorgeBailey]

can i be third

[GeorgeBailey]

Maybe make is so you can only heal 1 person at a time?

[GeorgeBailey]

Those sound like great changes! In my opinion marking should mean more, and be less frightening.

[GeorgeBailey]

The plan almost worked. It fooled Pops atleast.

[GeorgeBailey]

You ok Paragon?

We tried to heal you after you replaced out.