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i don't know they look like they're having a good time

VOTE: Heaven

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Scum!!!

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VOTE: Wicked

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surely not me, sir!

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i think you're referring to the edge of the blanket but i will accept this revelation nonetheless!

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is the green thing the toy?

it's a bat not a cat?

yes and yes!

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It would be my dream! but they don't make good pets annddd i dont work w/ animals

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bats are puppies w/ wings

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i already love him/her

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Bats are rats with wings

this does not bring joy; i do not like being compared to rodents

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Rodents are great

VOTE: wickedestjr

agree to disagree, but I'll let you off the hook because u chose the same wagon as me

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Please look at these little guys and tell me rats don't make great pets:

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I'm a bit afraid of rodents sorry :C

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We can certainly try!

Please, please, I'll do whatever you want! >x<

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this wagon got me lost a lil

sure, "Can you prove my vote on town?" is a relatively not-great question. Is it alignment-indicative? i'm not exactly sold yet

but i don't have any real reads of substance right now

Very well, Morning Tweet. I would like you to find a new vote and vote for a minion of the

Plague Bringer

. The direction you fly in will be enlightening.

VOTE: Heaven

can i park this here while i think abt it just no more rats, please!

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- Please rank rats, mice, hamsters, and gerbils in an order of disapproval.

From most disapprove to least disapprove -

{Rat} - Probably my most feared and hated enemy. They are.. so gross
{Mouse} - It's like the rat, but mini
{Gerbil} - These ones have tails, I think? Makes me think about the rodents I hate more, in turn making me hate this one more
{Hamster} - If I weren't afraid of the aforementioned rodents, this one could almost be alright. I like the lack of tail, and they scare me less

Personally, I believe it's nonoptimal play to ask loaded/leading questions designed to make your questionee look like scum - especially in these early stages. I believe it's more sensible to focus more so on looking like town, rather than trying to frame someone as scum on page 4.

Those questions are actually the worst. Oh also
VOTE: popsofctown

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I did a reread and still don't have anything, really. Probably would've had a weak answer to something game-related. I have spent the majority of my time being scared of rats.

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what I do know, however, is that from reading pops games i am TERRIBLE at guessing her alignment

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Someone needs to gently remind whatshisname that bats are in fact rodents

Did you know that rats can have FUN? They can be made so happy through playing with them that they literally jump with joy. You are an actual monster if you don't love all rodents

THEY ARE NOT RODENTS??? THEYRE CHIROPTERANS

i spent a couple years sleeping in a basement infested with rodents. did not enjoy

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MT, why did you choose to vote pops?

i wanted to help someone else in an (albeit tiny) way try to help determine pops alignment, because i find pops hard to read

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dont play with my emotions like this!!

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im glad im not the only one who thinks that there isnt alignment indicative stuff, i was worried i was just lost

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HURT: MorningTweet

oof ouch ow

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At the time my thinking was that a post like that was both very neutral and kinda sucks as a response to someone asking for help engaging, and also kinda riding coattails. Now that I see she's said this before its kinda invalid.

I am sorry for being a lost little bat!!

i was waiting to mention this because i didn't know if u did it intentionally or not, but the hurt tag just undoes your heal on someone

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I do like the bat more than the blue bird.

The blue bird fit more thematically with "Tweet", but eventually my love of bats got the best of me

Sorry 'm late, I was eating breakfast.

George has summoned Heaven!!

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Here's a wild idea. What if I just never read the first eight pages of this game? Crazy, I know. "Heaven, you can't just

do

something like that!"

Oh, but imagine the possibilities. Picture the scene: 'ts late game, three person lylo. I still haven't read the first eight pages of the game, and 'ts looking like scum might win. Just then, I go back and actually glance through them -- the answer is instantly revealed to me, and town takes it in the comeback of the decade.

'm willing to put it to a vote.

I've reread the first eight pages like, twice and look what good that's done me. Still, you might want to about know the Wicked/gobble stuff by reading

Im inclined to believe gobble is town but am I gonna be able to put why I think that into words? I liked the original vote on wicked (that he said was for greeting tell). He's since doubled down on it really hard and it's attracting basically all of the thread's attention in an environment where there isn't a lot of AI stuff happening. Perhaps he doesn't do this as scum, I think the chances of that are at least certainly greater.

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I don't really understand what Pops is saying.

I read the first few pages, the joke was getting old. Gotta say, was pretty useless. Wish 'd just stuck to my guns.

Morning Tweet's looking pretty towny though. For one, those bat eyes are just too charming to scumread. For two, 151 and 152 are pretty strongly town.

I like you, reckless L-1 vote and subsequent unvote and all. Plus townreading me is the quickest way to my heart

MT, Paragon, maybe Elbirn, maaaaaybe gobble leaning town on.

VOTE: Pops

Nice to meet you.

This is good. Except I'm less sure about Paragon (i'd switch him with gobble).. but I don't want anymore rats poured on me

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I don't really understand what Pops is saying.

I read the first few pages, the joke was getting old. Gotta say, was pretty useless. Wish 'd just stuck to my guns.

Morning Tweet's looking pretty towny though. For one, those bat eyes are just too charming to scumread. For two, 151 and 152 are pretty strongly town.

I like you, reckless L-1 vote and subsequent unvote and all. Plus townreading me is the quickest way to my heart

**second quickest way. The quickest has definitely gotta be complimenting my bats.

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I'LL DO IT, JUST DON'T HURT HER! :c

i was considering it already, but I wanted to first give george/para a chance to remove their heals if they disagree, since they're both (originally at least) jokes

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you know, im going to be very traumatized by the end of this game at the rate we're going

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HEAL: Heaven

<3

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don't misuse my trust heaven!!! that would make me and my bat very sad

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I may have just wanted to extort for something and didn't have something else to ask for. I am trying to crosstrain other skills so that my employer will let me try out related positions at work

oh ty that makes me feel better oh wait no it doesnt

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the poor cat!

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- Please rank rats, mice, hamsters, and gerbils in an order of disapproval.

From most disapprove to least disapprove -

{Rat} - Probably my most feared and hated enemy. They are.. so gross
{Mouse} - It's like the rat, but mini
{Gerbil} - These ones have tails, I think? Makes me think about the rodents I hate more, in turn making me hate this one more
{Hamster} - If I weren't afraid of the aforementioned rodents, this one could almost be alright. I like the lack of tail, and they scare me less

Personally, I believe it's nonoptimal play to ask loaded/leading questions designed to make your questionee look like scum - especially in these early stages. I believe it's more sensible to focus more so on looking like town, rather than trying to frame someone as scum on page 4.

Those questions are actually the worst. Oh also
VOTE: popsofctown

If you dislike Paragon’s questions, why are you voting Pops?

No, I mean questions that are loaded/leading are the worst.

Why are you asking Wicked why he thinks Heaven is town, when there's like 3 other people who actually think Heaven is town

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I know it went down in a memey way but I think marking Heaven early is perfectly fine, too. I wasn't forced against my will. He's my strongest town and I was really excited to use the mechanic in a way to jumpstart the game a little

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In my experience, my reads within the first dozen pages go wild because I'm basically voting/reading over tiny shifts in how I feel about people.

That being said I think you have the right conclusion on pops and there's no one I'd currently vote over her

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That being said I think you have the right conclusion on pops and there's no one I'd currently vote over her

What do you think about Gobble/Pyrra?

Weak town lean on gobble. He was really into his push on Wicked! If I recall correctly I joined him too cause I like the greeting tell

that's all I got on him. Why did you think his slot was scummy? You dont need to answer if it's already been outlined I'm gonna do more reading soon(tm)

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It's the post immediately prior to me.

I am dedicating my fullest attention to this game.

It's a good assessment that scum would be more likely to make something up. They would be more likely to feel they "should" be seeing something.

As is often underrated I think it's more AI for the person making the read

I worry that can read rude and I don't mean it that way

Should I not be serious, do you have a pt

Give it to me straight heaven scum undermined my townread on them last game so I lynched them I'll take all the free wins I can get

Do I need to clarify something?

ima keep it real, I have no idea what pops is talking about during this period of time and quite frankly im too confused to ask. Is it important and does it get in the way of trying to determine pops' thought process

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Would you say you're good at scum?

I'm hot garbage as scum, and Pops can vouche for that.

I read fusion mafia. That was a really town-sided setup, you know

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I really didn't realize Heaven was so close to getting hammered and probably would have unvoted if I had realized.

Didn't you say earlier you thought my vote was L+1? So, wouldn't that mean you thought I was actually

closer

to getting hammered, not farther?

I thought you were at L-4 when I posted the meme, then when MT refused to immediately place a mark vote I assumed that meant you were at L-1. I don't know if she was just realizing you were at "functional" L-1, I didn't contemplate self votes.
I am surprised there was not more hammer shyness than there was.

I also forgot he could hammer himself, yet still had the mind to give Paragon and Bailey a chance so if someone else joined on and hammered it 2/5 people who marked him didn't even want to

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I think she probably isn't lying about that because I honestly forgot too. Also there isn't much incentive to lie there imo

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You were saying that Heaven was a strong townread for you, then you were worried you were coming across as rude for I'm not sure what, and then I'm not sure what you meant by 243 and 244.

I also wanna ask, when you said this:

It's a good assessment that scum would be more likely to make something up. They would be more likely to feel they "should" be seeing something.

Did you mean that it's a good assessment by Heaven (making Heaven seem town) but not necessarily the right conclusion, or that Heaven is right in that scum is more likely to make things up and that you agree with the assessment itself?

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Ohhh okay I see what you mean by 242 now, I mistakenly linked it with what you were saying about Heaven

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I'm ignoring my online classes and am also here! but im having some difficulties focusing

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George read kinda scummy to me while I was reading thru his scum game in fusion mafia. I haven't seen that so far here, he's been lovely

But then again if i recall he was on the lynchpool for that entire game so maybe that negatively influenced his activity and the content of his posts. better than nothing though!

pedit2: try to make a high pitched screech then listen to the reverberation and hone in on the scummy reverberations

i like this idea!! will hopefully get back to you on the results

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Hey MT, what do you think about gobble replacing out?

At a glance it seems like it was outta nowhere and would be something possibly suspicious, but in reality I seriously doubt it's alignment indicative. I definitely don't think he scum!replaced out because he was coming under too much fire or anything along those lines

Pedit: George didn't post a whole lot, and when he did it never pinged my town radar. I forget exactly why, but he wasn't coming off well in that game and it was pretty much unanimous that he was the final scum. I'd theorize he lost a lot of energy for it cause he never got out of the scumpool

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Why did you choose to use the word good faith?

It means genuine/coming from town. Is there something odd about the choice?

I do find your use of "good faith" to be odd. You defined the term in part as "coming from town," yet you acknowledge scum can still make good faith posts. That seems contradictory and like you wanted to logically trap me into having a reason to town read you.

To answer your question if I thought it was good faith, my answer doesn't really matter. I could see a world where both scum!you and town!you take my posts at face value and decide to push it. However, in a vacuum, I think scum are more likely to push those posts because they want need to fabricate a believeable push on someone.

Why do you believe Wickedestjr is currently the best vote in the game? Do you believe my vote on you is in good faith?

I find Wickedstjr's entrance into the game to be scummy for several reasons: (1) greeting tell, (2) lack of trajectory, (3) preoccupation with his own wagon. The preoccupation with his own wagon would not be scummy in a vacuum, but he is not trying to discern the composition of the folks on his wagon. That is scummy.

You mean, which one I prefer playing as personally?

Does heaven getting marked negatively affect gobble if he's scum?

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I didn't mean to quote that

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i wrote an explanation for the quote and it vanished when i submitted

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His critique on Wicked is unfair

VOTE: GobbledyGook

If i understand correctly, gobble got votes for mainly this reasoning. I wanted to bring up that someone specifically asked for him to outline his reasoning, so it makes sense that it admittedly wasn't very strong that early on. additionally, the way gobble responded with frustration makes me kind of lean town.

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I prefer town to scum because I don't like feeling like I'm letting someone else down if I play poorly. I don't like the added stress

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You should feel like you're letting your town teammates down if you play poorly though.

Are you town who is going to let me down because you don't care about helping me win?

true true, although it hurts me less since I think it's easier to accidentally get mislynched as town than it is to be lynched as scum, since as town you also gotta focus on finding scum too

The reason I lost my only town game years ago was because I failed to convince one of two town teammates in LYLO that I wasn't scum. I had my reads right, so I could at least be proud of getting that correct. Scum is more just focusing on appearing town, and I am not good that doing that

But if Heaven is town, then why wouldn't either of the scum vote to heal him?

I'm guessing because Scum wants one of their own to be Marked. Town has less of an incentive to Lynch marked people because they're "confirmed Town".

I feel like, in a scenario where we pick a Mark early, scum don't have to worry about us treating them as confirmed town.

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If i understand correctly, gobble got votes for mainly this reasoning. I wanted to bring up that someone specifically asked for him to outline his reasoning, so it makes sense that it admittedly wasn't very strong that early on. additionally, the way gobble responded with frustration makes me kind of lean town.

I hate to be that asshole that asks why every time. But like...

why

?

Why

does his frustration seems Town to you? Scum can act equally frustrated when their push gets shot down. He didn't even seem frustrated to me.

I seem to have made the frustration part up in my mind.. yea he doesn't really seem that way

Looking thru, I still disagree with what others have said is scummy about him, but I can't exactly rationalize my townie feeling abt him either, anymore. Need to screech louder at it maybe?

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srry forgot how to bat for a moment there

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something like that!

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My main scumread right now is actually pops, which is why 'm a bit confused as to what actually happened with that whole sequence with the healing. Sure, 'ts easy enough for me to come up with any old explanation: I could give you three right now (trying to pocket me, trying to make us look partnered for if pops flips, trying to put me in a bad spot and then get me lynched), but I don't feel confident that any of them are

predictive

models, if that makes any sense. I'll try to elaborate more on that, I know it probably doesn't make sense.

How about if scum!her believed pushing it in this fashion would get her townread?

I do think the way she pushed it was kinda towny though. I know that's kinda contradictory.

The bolded is exactly what I'm wary of, and I'm keeping my vote on her because I think there's a reasonable chance this is the case; do you know why you find it kinda towny?

If i understand correctly, gobble got votes for mainly this reasoning. I wanted to bring up that someone specifically asked for him to outline his reasoning, so it makes sense that it admittedly wasn't very strong that early on. additionally, the way gobble responded with frustration makes me kind of lean town.

I hate to be that asshole that asks why every time. But like...

why

?

Why

does his frustration seems Town to you? Scum can act equally frustrated when their push gets shot down. He didn't even seem frustrated to me.

George very towny.

I was thinking about what george said in bed last night and i thought it looked good on him too

Heaven, George - good noodles
Para - decently up there
NM, wicked, elbirn - i dont know
gobble/Pyrrha (mostly because pyrrha hasn't been super insightful thus far, but this is probably forgivable since she hasnt read too much yet. also i dont get why she questioned wicked about heaven and the explanation given in 356 doesn't explain why)
pops

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Why would scum you not extort me?

VOTE: NM

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-this sort of consternation at the evils I will later inflict upon her. I mean will not inflict upon her.

(・_ ・；)

have mercy

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i would consider this a fairly significant an act of peace and friendship if you hadn't put me through a hostage situation just a day or two ago

bats always release happiness in my brain though so i accept

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I'm at do not lynch {Heaven, George, Para}

and probably lynch {NM or Pyrrha}

i think lynching pops day 1 is probably not best play

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you can never go wrong voting NM

that being said

VOTE: Pyrrha

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i'm having too much fun for the game thread to go inactive

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also i dont really have a strong indicator that you may be scum other than I can't read u well; at least the gobble replaceout + Pyrrha's less than optimal entrance is something w/ more substance to it

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in hindsight probably should've seen that coming

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（人･ω･)

pls be town pops ily

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dont worry i was very touched by yours; i've been practicing longer

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in hindsight probably should've seen that coming

He didn't even bat an eye

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personally i thought the shot was between me and george

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scum has some kind of ulterior reasoning to not shoot the more townie bloc. assuming i remember correctly that wicked wasn't really that widely TR

that or it's all a wifom trick. raaaaaaa

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you still think Heaven's followup after being marked was scummy?

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i dont think scum!heaven kills wicked

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NM would totally do that

that being said i wouldnt pick him first

i still dont scumread heaven, so i dont think i can get on board w/ ur strategy

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actually now that im thinking about it, the wicked-gobble interactions would make wicked a pretty good townread; need moar consideration

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with my current read on heaven in consideration it really isn't worth lynching him to switch the mark to george

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Wicked was also the one who was really against Heaven getting marked... But so was Elbirn?

I feel like reading into the marking situation too closely could be a total red herring and mostly not helpful

Heaven

- Paragon, GeorgeBailey, popsofctown, Morning Tweet, Heaven [MARK]

Paragon and

wicked

expressed that they would have preferred waiting on a strong TR at the end of day
Elbirn seems to have not read Heaven positively from the start, and as such, also did not mark

Pyrrha/gobble

were too short-lived to comment

It's not quite black n white enough to gather anything like whether scum would be willing to do the mark or not. imo it's just as likely they go along with it as they say "wait for a stronger TR" or "Heaven scum".

MT who is your first pick to lynch then?

i'm still stewing over it -- I need to hear from the slots that aren't just us three. going into this day, i didn't want to lynch george/heaven, although i can see what pops is saying about the mark swap if heaven can't be trusted

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@pops

Over the night, did you do any thinking about what to do about Heaven and the marking in a town where george was NKed? I know its not relevant now but were you planning on pivoting the mark in that scenario?

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i mean, it's what he does best

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i think George is obvtown. i lean town on paragon for early interactions with the gobble/pyrrha slot, as well as for his reads. i was pretty sure Heaven is town from his entrance but now i guess i should make sure of that with some screechy rereads later

NM is a rogue element, but still more likely town than not.

Pops' viewpoint today is feasible if she's town but I can't shake the feeling the kill could have been planned in conjunction with that proposed lynch order to buy a free day. George was a good kill, you know?? I would have thought it to be a better choice than wicked, although I think there is a great chance that we inevitably would have put wicked in the town block today for his gobble interactions.

Elbirn hasn't done anything town yet so id like some more here.

Going off of the kill alone, I don't think Heaven makes that choice

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y

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what if pops did it so she could get heaven lynched and george marked thereby wasting a day

or what if you did it to push george and thereby wasting a day

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or what if elbirn made the kill without reading the game thread? i think these options are more llikely than george being scum but im open to listen why u dont think he's town

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oh, you're good

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who would you vote after george is lynched

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if there were an additional mafia, who would it be

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;'( i tried

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that is much better than giving her a dirty rat!

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wait

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no don't do this

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{George}
{Heaven}
{Paragon}
{Not Mafia}
{Elbirn, pops}

i wanna lynch inside {Elbirn/pops} this phase, but it's starting to look like i might be in trouble

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random theory that popped into my head:

Even NM would ask his partner or be given permission to lolhammer first, but given the nature of how quickly we wagoned I doubt pyrhha came online during that time (since pyrhaa was inactive so long)

Mafia has daychat right

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i checked, yes they do. i have no idea how solid that theory is but im rolling with it for now

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does NM feel like if he doesn't lolhammer people will notice and call him out on that? that's the only logical reason i can think of to hammer your partner without giving them a chance

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you make a good point

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yeah ur right there

it's interesting how at the beginning of the day u and NM are pushing opposite agendas surrounding george. maybe not exactly telling, but i think it's intriguing nonetheless

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(was referring to pops being right that it doesn't increase NM's chance of scum)

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not exactly a scumread per se, just a preferred lynch over everyone else

so far i've only disagreed with elbirn on his heaven SR and obviously his heaven/MT association

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@MT why is pops a more preferable lynch than Not_Mafia?

im scared she might have killed wicked for the explicit purpose of being able to skip today using her swap mark to george plan, pocket you, and then win. mainly though, it's because i have higher town feelings for everyone that i listed above her in 593

going into today i still think Heaven is town + now i have a feeling Heaven doesn't killed wicked. I think out of the entire roster, Heaven is the most unlikely to do that. I can think of a reason for everyone but Heaven to kill wicked over George

pedit:

not exactly a scumread per se, so far i've only disagreed with elbirn on his heaven SR and obviously his heaven/MT association

When I say this, I mean that i haven't had much of substance to read u (Elbirn) with, but what little there was, I disagreed with it

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I think that it is slightly town-telling that NM lolhammered pyrrha, obviously not like a lot but I think there was a chance that if he were scumbuddies with Pyrrha, he MIGHT have shown restraint

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but Heaven to kill wicked over George

But i've been Heavily townreading him since the beginning. Do you think he'd NK me regardless?

that's a good point

I'm worried NKA is how we thro

granted i guess

I still have lingering TR from heaven and i think my list is still in the order i want it

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do you find Elbirn town over NM and Paragon?

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why??

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what about heaven 258and potentially 260? they give me townier vibes than anything ive read off elbirn

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(人˃ᆺ˂) heaven town

i kinda see why you felt his reaction to being marked was scummy, but im overlookin it in favour of my feelings on him

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such british no wonder you respond to my posts so late at night

I am simply nocturnal!

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such british no wonder you respond to my posts so late at night

I am simply nocturnal!

Do you know what else is nocturnal?

dont u dare

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YAY!

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I can agree george is more solidly town than Heaven, ok? I've read his scum game and im mostly confident this isn't it

i don't see what was towny about elbirn's posts you linked

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You mean to mark George today and lynch someone besides heaven, then lynch Heaven tomorrow if required?

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Lynching Heaven tomorrow in that case sounds almost completely required.

not if we lynch scum today

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happy birthday NM!!!!

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Thank you, please lynch George as my gift

but he's towwwnnnnnnn

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wait,

what

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i miss heaven

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If I was Town?

he capitalized Town. plus scumslips that like r never going to actually find scum

i miss heaven

Well i'm sorry i'll never be him

VOTE: Heaven

looks like ur abt to take his mark and possibly his life

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Loki has waited patiently without bullying his sister and has earned his turn cuddling Princess Peach for comfort.
She will be taken away from him at any such a time as Morning Tweet votes

popsofctown

or

Elbirn

This is a final warning.

how much torture can I possibly receive in one game??????

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Heaven is

g o n e

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we would have to mark george first

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who would you mark instead

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(; ﹏ ; )

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oh my!!!

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Pops wants to lynch you and remark george
Elbirn just plain wants to lynch you
NM is deathtunneling george I guess
Paragon isn't here yet
and I am mostly being a dumb bat

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i'd be the butt of every joke

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Do you think his interactions with gobble were theater? I also was really close with his reads

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HEAL: Paragon

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VOTE: pops

(人^ω^)

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Maybe Elbirn is implying that Paragon is "out of sight, out of mind"?

I need to solve this game and stuff but there's lots of stuff to do at work today.

I think it might just be Morning Tweet. People can think it's gross to try to read gook's replace out if they want, but it's not like MT is playing independently towny on the other hand in a way where I should feel ashamed. Even if she is very charismatic.

(* >// ω //<)¬ oh you

For the record, I think gobble replacing out due to a scumpartner marking a townie early in the day is stretching it quite a bit. What is there to be frustrated about there?

VOTE: pops

please dont hurt me or your cat

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:C

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NOOOOOoooo it's not true!!! Loki, please forgive mee!!

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If I went along with your reads, id be voting Heaven, Paragon, or myself apparently...

;C

sometimes life presents me with the hardest decisions i feel ill ever have to make. this is definitely up there with em

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Okay I can agree on GB. I don't know what it is about Elbirn that you're seeing but if I take that for granted too, then I need to reconsider what I'm thinking about Paragon and Heaven prolly

something really tells me Heaven is town. I'm willing to take the ridicule after the game if I'm wrong on that, but I am confident enough he's town.

Paragon had a lot of early interactions with gobble if I remember correctly and I had a tendency to townlean on that too

And I think NM is more than likely town from his actions but take that with a grain of salt.

Gahhhh--! I townread so liberally!!!

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well i......

this isn't fair ;c

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Spoiler:

i relate to his anguish at the loss of his cuddle buddy in this image

i can only imagine how much worse he must feel

lean town.

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thank you!

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pretty please?

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ill only consider lynching heaven if we mark george

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well we'd have to after marking george but you know what i mean

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n o

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HEAL: George

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If we mark the towniest person, it removes someone from the night kill pool and in theory forces scum to kill someone closer to the scum pool

Scum only wins if the town is majority marked. Therefore, if we mark only one person, there can't be any harm from it.

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Also hurting yourself doesn't do anything besides remove your self heal

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We can also have two marks as long as we lynch one of them today or tomorrow in the f5 if I understand this correctly

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We can also have two marks as long as we lynch one of them today or tomorrow in the f5 if I understand this correctly

When you put it like that, if Heaven gets lynched we def shouldn't mark anyone.

wat I was making the opposite point

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If we're lynching heaven today/tomorrow there's no reason not to use a mark

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Can four of us agree on a universal townread? I am willing to bet the game on George

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Do you want to lynch Heaven, George? I'm pretty torn up about it personally but I think you're a better mark

p sure Morning Tweet is marking Loki but I know handcounting is hard

i want to hug him and tell him im sorry ;'(

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I think Paragon's early game interactions with gobble make him seem pretty likely to be town to me

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Also hi Heaven!!

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I lean towards Paragon's initiation of the more or less first serious push on gobble in 80 to more likely not be SvS.

Paragon did eventually back off in 137 but it was in favour of voting pops so I give him a free pass

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unrelated tangent -- 182 looks good on elbirn now. Also, he didn't have to unvote Heaven in 760 and prevent the possibly inevitable NM lolhammer. I will giv u town points there sir

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Can we lynch pops? I've been waiting patiently

or if we're lynching Heaven I wanna make sure George is marked first

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I unvoted scum to vote scum

bam

exactly

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It's called "assuming the conclusion". The idea he isn't scum is based on him unvoting scum to vote scum. If there are two other scum where that's a possible action, he's not scum anyway. It's circular

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well i get what you're saying but I was more or less joking. He took his vote off gobble and backed off of him, but it was in favour of voting you which is what I was doing at the time so I like it more

I experienced a lot of the tonish reasons to want to townread heaven but if you boil down to the very straightforward, he was offwagon for the day1 scumlynch and did a scummy lolhammer, it's not a very town set of puzzle pieces

Yes, although he didn't get a chance to react to the Pyrhha wagon at all

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Official Vote Count 1.11 FINAL

Elbirn (1)- Paragon

Pyrrha Nikos

(5)-

Wickedestjr

, GeorgeBailey, Morning Tweet, popsofctown, Not_Mafia - LYNCH
Heaven (1)- Elbirn

Not Voting (2): Heaven, Pyrrha Nikos

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Wicked had his vote on Pyrrha the whole time

George started a flash wagon that I joined, followed by pops

and then NM lol hammered 2 hours after

Although Pyrhha was in my lynch pool, I was mostly doing it to pressure Pyrrha back into posting and I didn't really think it was going to be her almost immediate death. Perhaps the other two had similar thoughts at the time

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I suppose if pops hadn't voted Pyrrha, she had a much higher chance of surviving though so I can't really ignore that.

Part of me wants to lynch Heaven just for the reasons you mentioned but I got hit really hard by those town tone reads. It also helps that we could mark George which I really want to do

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i actually don't rly wanna lynch heaven anymore

What changed your mind?

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I think George/NM/Elbirn are basically locktown

NM made exactly one serious post day one: 367. Factor in the lolhammer as well. There's also a third thing that I don't want to go over; feeling about as good as I can feel about a NM read on this one

Elbirn is revealing himself to be town to me. sorry for being late on that -- 787

Just Heaven/Pops/Paragon-DDL left to sort thru

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You think I'm scum when we have similar reads D:

fuuckkk i knowww

and you want to torture Loki by hanging his princess from a fan it's so hurtful

please tell him I'm sorry!!!!

If you want to townlock N_M, it's actually optimal to mark Elbirn, because if N_M and George are both town (likely) the mafia will bring them to 3p LyLo for an instant win. So GB isn't getting shot anyway.

Fair

I'm comfortable with Elbirn being marked

HEAL: Elbirn

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UNVOTE:
HURT: George

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As of right now, I want George, Elbirn, and NM to live as close to the f3 as possible. Marking Elbirn or George, then lynching Heaven either today or tomorrow assures mafia must allow either Elbirn or George to stay all the way through the rest of the game.

This is what I want. Although I don't have any evidence Heaven is scum, he is not in my top 3 townies. I am perfectly fine lynching Heaven to grant immunity to someone in my town block.

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I think it boils down to: If we're lynching Heaven, we should mark a new person. Otherwise, we dont use it

If we don't lynch Heaven today, but let's say tomorrow we decide to lynch him, then we should probably mark whoever in George/Elbirn is still alive tomorrow assuming town reads stay the same

Perhaps we could figure out who everyone is willing to lynch before we hit the deadline. I'm still lynching inside {Heaven/Pops/DDL}

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The votes according to what lynches we've expressed being okay with. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these

Elbirn (0)

-

Not_Mafia (0)

-

GeorgeBailey (1)

- Not_Mafia

Morning Tweet (1)

- popsofctown

popsofctown (2)

- DrDolittle, Morning Tweet

Heaven (3)

- popsofctown, Morning Tweet, Elbirn

DrDolittle (4)

- Heaven, popsofctown, Morning Tweet, George

I think with my pool personally I'd prefer Heaven > DDL > Pops

VOTE: Heaven
w/ HEAL: Elbirn

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HEAL: morning tweet

(/ω＼*)
you're too kind

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Wow

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I sure didn't! NM is even more ruthless than I could ever know!

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I think it'd be interesting if you had to compulsive mark someone each day and it resets at start of next day. Unsure how that affects balance but it does make the mark a more important mechanic rather than more of an afterthought

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i'm sorry I doubted you pops!!!

even if you mentally scarred me

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nyoo00o (*˃﹏˂)

it was a mistake!!!

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don't you think there was enough of that while I was still alive?

shudder shudder

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he killed pyrrha in total cold blood ahahaha

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fooled me too but he killed me :$

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Paragon!! Hope youre feeling better!

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Awwwhh! <3