Micro 956 | 2of4 | Dinosaur Comics™ - GAME OVER!

[Alisae]

i forced 2 flips in a row because i'm stubborn and couldn't agree to anything else

and now the more i think about it, the more i am starting to talk myself into porkens being scum with pk
but honestly idunno idc anymore i don't deserve to win this game

[Alisae]

im only talking myself into it because Hiraki asked me about it and the more serious thought i give it it makes sense but I don't know.
only thing i know is i don't deserve to win so...

[Alisae]

like i tried rly hard

[Alisae]

VOTE: porkens
this is the hill im going to die on
idc anymore
i'm demoralized and i don't deserve to win the game

[Alisae]

ya, i would be disgusted with myself too if I was scum

[Alisae]

why haven't you voted me again peta?

[Alisae]

cm1 we're voting porkens because we think that i blocked porken's kill and because of that, he panic claimed doc

[Alisae]

mafia hard game kekw

[Alisae]

honestly losing to pk doesn't sit right with me either tbh

[Alisae]

but also by my play only i don't deserve to win so its whatever ig
if hiraki wants to do pk i'll do it.

[Alisae]

Peta
which claim do you think is more likely to come from scum
me or porkens?

[Alisae]

Also given the flips that we have to work with, what do you think of CoA's posting?

[Alisae]

i jailed porkens
honestly kinda demoralized from that flip, i was really hoping that nexus would flip scum :/

first post of teh day

1 minute later

Well that’s something. Won’t setup spec openly but I have a decent idea of what happened here.

1 minute later

I’m doc. I protected hikari night 1 and CM1 last night.

why does Porkens claim here if he's town?

[Alisae]

now that i think about it
does not protecting me night 2 make sense?

[Alisae]

actually im high does that even matter
i'll think if him not protecting me night 2 makes sense when im not stoned because i am stoned holy

[Alisae]

given the implausibilities in things you've said, you.

the context of porken's claim is scummier though

[Alisae]

given the implausibilities in things you've said, you.

also what implausibilities?

[Alisae]

you're going to have to explain that with more depth

[Alisae]

At least if we get Ali out now then whoever out of Porkens or Hiraki is alive tomorrow can help me decide between you and PK

{Porkens, Me} has 1 town in it minimum.

[Alisae]

oh wait i misread ignore that

[Alisae]

actually fuck it
im not engaging with this thread anymore

hiraki you have to win the game
i'll still keep up with the thread but no one gives a fuck about what i have to say
so...

[Alisae]

i don't rly deserve to win tho so its whatever
/shrug

[Alisae]

like i'll post if u need me to but putting the investment into this game has not been worth it on my mental so...

[Alisae]

why does town!doctor claim when porkens claims
walk me through it

[Alisae]

why does town!doctor claim when porkens claims
walk me through it

If he didn't claim when he did then as a town we would've stuck with your claim being our only PR and thus we would've had to follow you

why start of day after being informed that he was jailkept? Wouldn't he want to stay as hidden as possible?

[Alisae]

Like why would he need to claim if he's a town doctor?
He didn't save the kill. He knows that I proved myself as the jailkeeper if he really is a doctor.
I don't see the reason for him to claim

[Alisae]

CM1, what is more realistic

- Me fakeclaiming Jailkeeper without any knowledge of what power roles exist in the game outside of 1 protective role
- Porkens fakeclaiming Doctor in response to him seeing his kill fail and me saying i jailkept Porkens

[Alisae]

You can just not respond that works too

[Alisae]

Btw Hiraki I am starting to lean Porkens/Peta

[Alisae]

Scum not having to care about what I have to say
Weird

[Alisae]

So my slot was framed basically, that certainly is a big brain move

petapan
Alisae - JK
CreativeMod1
Not_Mafia - Scum
Porkens - Doc
Hiraki

I think it's Not_Mafia+Peta+CM1/Hiraki

I don't see a CM1 and Hiraki team making these galaxy brain plays

given the context of Porken’s claim (There was a no kill n2 and after I immediately claimed that I jailkept Porkens, Porkens claimed doc 2 mins later) it is possible that Porkens is scum fakeclaiming doc.

[Alisae]

Oh yeah this set-up has that extra VT thing. So couldn't you be fakeclaiming aswell?

I mean technically yes but for me to be fakeclaiming I needed to have rolecopped Porkens N1 and hope that the real Jailkeeper doesn’t CC me or there isn’t a cop in the setup. I think thats the only realistic way my jailkeep claim is fakeclaimable with the least amount of risk possible, and that scenario I don’t think exists considering I would always shoot Porkens N2 in that scenario

[Alisae]

Idunno NM
Do you think I fakeclaim JK in a situation that makes it very risky to get CC’d.

I can’t claim Jailkeeper if I rolecopped a cop
I can’t claim Jailkeeper if I rolecopped a Jailkeeper
I can claim Jailkeeper if I rolecopped a Doc or VT but the setup could be Doc + Cop or Doc + Jailkeeper and I get CC’d by a jailkeeper or if the setup is Doc + Cop, then its confirmed that one of the PRs has scum in it and I don’t rly want to be in that situation either tbh.

Like if I fakeclaim jailkeeper here I lucked out basically

[Alisae]

alisae i don't care if you're scum anymore. cm1 has tilted me

lol

[Alisae]

The biggest question I have atm is would a town!doctor immediately claim after hearing that I jailkept them and there was no kill
And atm I am leaning towards no

[Alisae]

I supposed I’m willing to let you play the game so I’ll do this
Just for you
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

he's been having a lot of emotions for a long period

not that i blame him

this game has been draining

ya honestly NM if u were in this game earlier you would probably scumread me given I think how you still read me is very viable.

[Alisae]

Day 2 there was no kill so alisae scum would know there was a protective. She got peta to admit he was not a PR, and the scum also have an RB. I think that’s good enough odds for her to fake it.

This seems weirdly out of place and tinfoil discredity

I didn’t believe ems Jk claim. Ems posts day 1 and day 2 seemed to be from a “I’ll show these boobs how fucking great scum I am I’m going to explain how I play as scum and then do exactly that”. Like e’s just having a big fucking giggle at us being on every town wagon, faking JK to get nexus killed, now the coup de grace is exiling the doctor.

I wouldn’t want to drag out the game for as long as possible though. I would flip Nexus, shoot someone (probs you) and the flip some other townie for game. When you fakeclaim, the longer the game goes on the more your fakeclaim is at risk of getting exposed.

[Alisae]

It’s the same reason i don’t bus unless I have to or think its an actual + winrate play, I would rather just end the game as soon as possible, even if my partner is dead weight. My scumplay gets worse and worse as I get later into the and I would rather just win the game as soon as possible. The times where I’ve had to win by myself are very few. Yes I got all the way to the end of the game by myself, but winning from there is just completely different.

[Alisae]

But now you are voting me.

The only thing that kept me from going after peta is my suspicion of alisae and her hard defense of him.

yes, i literally gave up because i got sick of arguing with creativemod1 and attempted to throw the game against him

YOU GET IT NOW

[Alisae]

Any one wanna talk about how replacements ruin gamestates?
Any truers?

[Alisae]

i'm still upset you hammered umlaut and not that prick though

I probably might have if I wasn’t like super tunneled on umlaut.

[Alisae]

kept trying to explain how literally everyone had voted him and there was no way he was p[aired with anyone and you kept trying to just badger me into voting him and ignoring what i said

if I decided to turn on my brain, I see the Hiraki vote and question myself if thats a scum indicative play. I don’t think anything you said would change my mind because the way I solve I basically form a mini map of everyone’s stances on each other and use flips to try and understand the gamestate. If anything, you defending him made me want to flip him more because the stakes were really high.

[Alisae]

also
That whole day I was waiting to hammer something
So I kinda just wanted blood

[Alisae]

Btw Porkens if you want a secret tip for re-reading, what you can do, is you can use this link
viewtopic.php?f=83&ppp=200&t=83575
And it increases teh amount of posts from 25 to 200 per page

[Alisae]

People still don't know about it and I didn't know until Kison literally posted about it

[Alisae]

you see things differently when you become insanely twisted. now, stuff that other people find sick is funny to me

LMAO

[Alisae]

Wtf is going on?

Peta just lost it
Everything is fine
Everything is just fantastic

[Alisae]

You also mislynched 3 town

[Alisae]

ok
you still mislynched 3 town

[Alisae]

I'd see which cancel would be the easiest and get that through and then random luck that the night killer isn't jailed

and then you get called out for your reads not being consistent

[Alisae]

heck I could probably sit back today and let town destroy each other

and then you get called out for it

[Alisae]

your avatar is rly scummy btw

[Alisae]

its been bothering me all game

[Alisae]

your avatar is rly scummy btw

Wow you just can't stop with the personal attacks can you?

yes
i am personally
attacking your pfp

[Alisae]

your avatar triggers me

[Alisae]

Can I ask, what happens if we're in a complete deadlock? like as a town we can't decide on someone to cancel and so don't cancel anyone and then if Mafia refuse to kill in the night? like what happens if that cycle continues over and over? this is probably a

@MOD

question but yeah

Different mods would probably have different ways of handling this situation (it doesn't come up very often).

Personally, I'm a big fan of "Rocks fall, everyone dies."

More seriously, in the case of a true deadlock (Town no-cancels, then scum no-kills, or vice-versa), I would put the onus to end the deadlock on whichever faction started it.

So if town no-canceled first, then scum no-killed, the next day phase would not end until a cancel was achieved.

If scum no-killed first, then town no-canceled, then scum would be required to submit a kill the next night.

HOLY
THANK YOU

Best policy on the matter hands down holy.

[Alisae]

Deadline: 1 day, 23 hours, 16 minutes

oof

[Alisae]

VOTE: no cancel

[Alisae]

gg ig im just delusional!

[Alisae]

on d3 i considered replacing out but then deleted the pm because i figured that the slot was pratically doomed and no one deserved to feel obligated to dig themselves out of the hole that was the slot

its wahtever ig
sorry for being delusional
/shrug

[Alisae]

filing this one to "should have never tried to play mafia again". sorry everyone.

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