Ugh Tyr worshipers. @Everyone except Paladin: Have you ever heard the good word of Kelemvor?In post 8, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:In Tyr's name I accept your challenge.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't use the 'L' word, thanks.In post 14, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:I am referring to the use of the word "lynch" rather than "elimination" or another similar term.
So basically if you die and you don't worship any gods then you get stuck in a giant wall made of dead people for all eternity. Good old Kelemvor took down the wall. Had to put it back up for obvious reasons though. Us followers of old Kelly are here spreading the good word so that nobody gets stuck in a giant wall forever.In post 21, Alisae wrote:nopeIn post 20, Hopkirk wrote:Have you ever heard the good word of Kelemvor?
You've got a lot of nerve just coming into the game making jokes instead of contributing anything. I'd give you a finger of suspicion, but that would make typing hard so I'm going to have to go with a vote instead. VOTE: Windows XPIn post 22, WindowsXP wrote:I suggest we use the term Uninstall. But perhaps I am just biased.
I am hurt by the implication that I don't joke.In post 31, Donempire wrote:You're british, no surprise you dont like jokesIn post 24, Hopkirk wrote:You've got a lot of nerve just coming into the game making jokes instead of contributing anything. I'd give you a finger of suspicion, but that would make typing hard so I'm going to have to go with a vote instead. VOTE: Windows XPIn post 22, WindowsXP wrote:I suggest we use the term Uninstall. But perhaps I am just biased.
Aren't we all deep down when you think about it? Who among us can say they are scum? I know I can't.In post 34, Ydrasse wrote:hopkirk are you scum
They have basically no posts and have stopped. Complaining 'half their iso' is spent on it isn't a good way to move past this.In post 41, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:Who is policing whom? I made a passing remark to a player who is not you, to which they replied cordially. You have spent half your ISO defending your right to be obstinate, while positing that I am an instigator, and ironically implying that I am too personally invested.In post 19, Alisae wrote:Like you decided to be the word police, so I'm questioning why you decided to be the word police.
Am I not allowed to do that?
FlopzIn post 51, Grumpy Cat wrote:Flopz is lurking
Because it's not game related and you've posted nothing game related.In post 53, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:I am certainly not looking to further discuss the matter itself, but why would I ignore Alisae's butting in? And why does it seem important to you that I do?In post 43, Hopkirk wrote:They have basically no posts and have stopped. Complaining 'half their iso' is spent on it isn't a good way to move past this.
That's a pretty good spot and not at all what I was implying.In post 56, Grumpy Cat wrote:Mafia conform to people around them to appeaseIn post 52, Hopkirk wrote:It's the standard American spelling. I'm assuming you, like most people, are living in America. Streuth, in an American game like this I kind of have to adopt the lingo mate.
Hella sus
I think we should try to move away from this type of low effort posting. Could anyone who agrees please quote my post then say 'I agree' (nothing else obviously).In post 59, Grumpy Cat wrote::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Screw you then. I was trying to not get super agressive and toxic this game but you're not giving me much option. Really making me regret trying to extend an olive branch and having you spit on my face and punch me repeatedly in the throat.In post 61, Grumpy Cat wrote:I disagreeIn post 60, Hopkirk wrote:I think we should try to move away from this type of low effort posting. Could anyone who agrees please quote my post then say 'I agree' (nothing else obviously).In post 59, Grumpy Cat wrote::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
To play Hopkirk's defense attorney here, if I were scum then I'd have had to triple down on the jokes and weirdness so that you didn't scumread me?In post 68, Ydrasse wrote:i feel like in the time btwn my last visit here and now this thread warped into the twilight zone
Idk. I don't really want to reread the game because he was so toxic in it that I really don't want to reread it (and the mod didn't update the first post with roles or anything smh).In post 69, Grumpy Cat wrote:Was he scum in that game, Hop? That's some useful meta, thanks.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1349 ... me_Travel/In post 71, Ydrasse wrote:you’re scaring me more hopkirk my little brain can’t keep up
I think you mean oursIn post 75, Datisi wrote:mine?
That's more than fair. If he flips scum I'll deathtunnel you and Paladin then we'll all facepalm at how toxic Dong gets about being left out of the deathtunnels.In post 83, Grumpy Cat wrote:Fair, but if he flips scum, I'm going after you for this obvious busIn post 81, Hopkirk wrote:I didn't like any of their second or third post. First was a NAI naked vote. The joke about uninstall felt a little tonally off, like sure it's a reasonable joke but leaving the thread after felt kind of meh. The post in 33 I disliked the mindset too and I'd like to pressure them a bit yeah.
VOTE: WindowsXP
Seems a bit low for Flopz 'I hate you guys' Flopz. Even that time he was playing 'we need a fourth' he was still in 3 toxic 1v1s. He just kept quoting his own posts. That wasn't a fun game, but I did learn a lot about my mother.In post 89, Grumpy Cat wrote:I feel like the scumteam are scared of the pure solving power we're exhibiting right and I don't really blame them
Flopz especially is heavy lurking. He usually has around 200 posts and has got into 2 or 3 toxic 1v1s by now
I think you just got a one because their name is IcONEum. Doesn't mean anything about their position.In post 94, Grumpy Cat wrote:I have a lucky dice for finding town (it's never failed me). Whoever it lands on in the playerlist is legitimately conftown to me
Spoiler:
Iconeum
Hopkirk
Dongempire
Ydrasse
Alisae
Piergeiron the Paladinson
Grumpy Cat
Flopz
WindowsXP
Ico it is
Eh, it's better than fixing boxing matches like Flopz. I use 'boxing match' in the loosest possible terms here. I still disagree that going to retirement homes and punching the residents counts as a boxing match, but Flopz has got a powerful right hook (GrumpyCat already posted the profile pic he uses on his dating apps) and doesn't like it when I try and disagree with how he defines words.In post 98, Grumpy Cat wrote:Are you accusing me of fixing my roles? Ngl that's kind of toxic to accuse me of cheating like that
Don't try and pretend you weren't slinging stuff at me on our team mafia discord channel. You roasted Micc and Reckoner so hard that they left right after the event finished.In post 113, Flopz wrote:Hiiii everyoneI've taken a long sabbatical since the mess that was my Team Mafia game to try and rekindle my enjoyment of Mafia as a whole. I hope we can all get along and not instantly turn to s***-slinging as I find that really takes the fun out of the game
We'll start off with a nice VOTE: Ico. You were a good doc, it was a shame about the rest of TM
Interested in why you liked Flopz's entrance. It's pretty blatantly fake, much more obviously so if you look at his other games. Not fake as in bad though.In post 122, WindowsXP wrote:Hey I'm on break.
I get scumpings from Grumpy Cat,
Longpost will come after I am home.
Alisae feels town.
Hopkirk lowkey scummy
Flopz entrance has good vibes.
Ydrasse I'm not sure about yet.
Paladin I want to say is town.
And it seems ico has yet to post.
EVs for a scum win: 7 alive 2 scumIn post 127, WindowsXP wrote:also ive been toying with the idea of NLing until D3 while i was working.
Cons: we lose a ML
Pros: getting within 2 scum is easier
Overall the mechanic makes a 2 scum lylo much more dangerous for scum since by then one scum has been poed minimum.
Would like to hear other's thoughts on this.
Because it was hilarious.In post 130, Alisae wrote:Hopkirk why did you shade Flopz?
I would like to deeply and sincerely apologize to Flopz for any pain or suffering he may have experience in relation to my vicious mockery. I should have paid more attention to his feelings. Hurting your feelings was never my intent here Flopz and I hope we can move away from this shocking and tragic incident together. Just think of the things we can do together. If we work in tandem there's no fight we cannot win.In post 133, Flopz wrote:Honestly, can you stop. This is not funny anymoreIn post 73, Hopkirk wrote:Idk. I don't really want to reread the game because he was so toxic in it that I really don't want to reread it (and the mod didn't update the first post with roles or anything smh).In post 69, Grumpy Cat wrote:Was he scum in that game, Hop? That's some useful meta, thanks.
The fact that he made
The comment: 'the fact that he made 30 shitposts yesterday, half about Flopz, was supposed to be in reference to this quote.In post 148, Alisae wrote:how am i supposed to know it was a joke?
As Grumpy says below, this was memeing since we know Flopz. He's never even once beaten up my grandfather, though they're both dead so it'd be kind of weird for him to do an exhumation just to punch a skeleton. That's probably all that's stopping him tbh, other than his strong moral centre and general outstanding levels of decency.In post 163, Alisae wrote:ok but why would a scum!hopkirk go out of his way to shade his partner Flopz? Isn't it just completely unneeded to make a post like that?In post 157, Grumpy Cat wrote:Not at all. I could totally see them as partners still. Or better said, nothing we've done has made them more or less likely to be partners.In post 154, Alisae wrote:Do you think there's any value in this statement at all @Grumpy CatIn post 139, Alisae wrote:I think Hopkirk shading Flopz isn't something that he would go out of his way to do if they were partners.
I too consider failing to get humor, but in an innocent way, a minor towntell.In post 164, Ydrasse wrote:i will live and die by alisae being town this game
Flopz loves the spotlight. Probably because of his amazing singing voice and keen attention to choreography.In post 166, Alisae wrote:its bringing attention to his partner.In post 165, Grumpy Cat wrote:How is talking about his meta shade if Flopz hasn't even posted yet? That's not gonna convince anyone to launch him more when the guy has 0 posts
I'm confused? There were plenty of people posting in the thread here so I'm not sure what saying 'come play mafia with me' is supposed to do when plenty of people already areIn post 182, Alisae wrote:Come play mafia with meWe play mafia
Plus I don't get how the frog is supposed to encourage people to post.I explain why you pinged me early in 81 . No idea if this will actually link to post 81 btw, but if it didn't then just start from the beginning and ignore the next 79 posts. It was the most interesting thing except for the anticipation of Flopz appearing (and I want to hear why you like this because that's a real odd read). Grumpcat I'm not trying to read until at least three days into the game because that way it's easier to separate the jokes and the reads.In post 184, WindowsXP wrote:Before I post about Hopkirk,I'd like to ask them to please explain their push on me and what their intention was with it.I want full honesty, as well as the reason they were shading a few other slots.
alisae I think is town. I will link some posts that I feel display a town mindset(e are by no means locktown but if e stay on the path I may locktown em). E have have the highest impact on the game so far IMO:
Spoiler: Showing a desire to start solving early on by pushing people to explain things. I find this kind of questioning to lean someone town.
Spoiler: Applying this kind of pressure and drawing analysis from it is also towny to me.
Spoiler: genuine frustration at wanting people to be open about their intents
now grumpycat is a slot I've been watching and I have a bit of suspicion of them.
and their interactions with hop are......weird, even if they are friends. there's the theory that a scum team of hop/grumpy would be trying to force a mutual townread early on so that there is justification on day 3 to not push on eachother. A lot of grumpy's posts give me WIFOM vibes. At the very least it would be most plausible that Grumpy is attempting to pocket hopkirk if they are friends/ friendly with eachother.
Spoiler: hopkirk related posts
There's also that general air of "not really trying to solve and just fucking around" I get from GC. It is still early on and they can feel free to prove me wrong but so far I think they are scum trying to wifom.
Paladin gives town vibes
Ydrasse is still null
Ico hasn't even posted yet
Flopz I want to say is town by their entrance.
I can see how there's some value in it in that mafia might consider using it to try and make the game more toxic, but I wouldIn post 185, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:I still don't like your dismissal of my entire line of questioning. How is it not potentially indicative of alignment if Alisae is showing cognitive dissonance while going out of eir way to pick fights about non-game content during the Random Voting Stage?In post 55, Hopkirk wrote:Because it's not game related and you've posted nothing game related.In post 53, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:I am certainly not looking to further discuss the matter itself, but why would I ignore Alisae's butting in? And why does it seem important to you that I do?In post 43, Hopkirk wrote:They have basically no posts and have stopped. Complaining 'half their iso' is spent on it isn't a good way to move past this.
How good would you say you are at maths/EV calcs Windows, because this is on the far easier end of calculating setup/strategy EVs.In post 197, WindowsXP wrote:About 20% serious. It would be interesting to pursue the validity of such a strategy sometime but I understand most will not go for it. Interesting you latched onto this post of mine. Are you an ego player by any chance?In post 194, Iconeum wrote:exactly how serious are you with this suggestion? and what size is your neck?In post 127, WindowsXP wrote:also ive been toying with the idea of NLing until D3 while i was working.
Cons: we lose a ML
Pros: getting within 2 scum is easier
Overall the mechanic makes a 2 scum lylo much more dangerous for scum since by then one scum has been poed minimum.
Would like to hear other's thoughts on this.
That's because we have such an amazing playlist this time rather than... that other game. Love all you guysIn post 195, Iconeum wrote:oh man i hope you aren't seeing toxicity in this game right now because… there isn't any. Yet.In post 149, Flopz wrote:Please ignore what you've heard. I've literally played 2 games here and stopped after that because of the toxicity. I was hoping it might be better this time but maybe notIn post 117, Ydrasse wrote:flopz ive heard scary things about you
I don't get the impression Paladin was pushing me at all? He just had a question about my perspective on an issue. I didn't interpret that as aggressive/pushing so much as a fairly standard 'could you explain your thought process' question. What makes you see it as a push?In post 206, WindowsXP wrote:Ico, do you think there is at least one scum in GC/Hop trying to pocket the other?
To be honest, your recent spam of posts are not actually very helpful and just reacting to random things.
Can you offer some analysis within those 2 slots?
You seem to be disliking the pressure that Paladin is putting on Hopkirk, so perhaps can you elaborate on where you stand on Hop. Are you getting scumpings from Paladin because you think they are trying to LAMIST or because of their push on Hop?
Like, he clearly apologized and said it was a mistype? Why are you assuming the worst when the obvious explanation is that it was a legitimate mistake.In post 229, WindowsXP wrote:I asked you to explain yourself Ico and added a vote to get you to do so, and your reaction is to OMGUS?
Either you are extremely childish or you are scum trying to deflect from taking more concise stances.
And having skimmed your recent games I am leaning towards the latter.
It looks to me you are acting in a way to make something stick instead of analyzing already existing content. i.e. you give some reply to a few posts and then end up trying to shade a random slot like its still RVS.
Also as a side note, please do not use gross ableist language. I am uncomfortable with it and its grossly inappropriate to use in game.I will not be asking you directly again.
@Flopz - care to explain?In post 231, Iconeum wrote:wtf is ableist language
Hmmm, who else's recent games have you looked at?In post 249, WindowsXP wrote:I believe there is no productive conversation to be had with someone who refuses to engage in good faith.
I took a look at WHAT you exactly decided to respond to - on top of your refusal when prodded to - to respond to something I thought was important, as scummy.
As for the RVS comment? - It's not RVS. And you are lying that you are truly treating it as RVS from your shade on Paladin. It was page 8 when you got on. Just because YOU were late doesn't mean we waited to end RVS with you. So stop playing entitled.
You are more excited to respond to things that are non game related. As a recent example you recently just latched onto my claim that I read a few of your recent games. I did actually. Mainly for alignment + early game play to see patterns.
Overall, if you are town stop playing like you are entitled to being townread because it's going to end in you getting policied. And I am not interested in any AtE. That shit does not work on me.
The second point here was definitely after he asked you something. Idr whether the first was.In post 278, Iconeum wrote:i asked him why he is townreading paladin -> no response
i asked him what games he skimmed -> no response
i *truly* feel like i responded to his question
I don't get the scum motivation for Icon to act like this tbh. Like he should know it's not going to get good attention and it's pretty attention grabbing. I agree Windows is right to call Ico out here, but is there a (meta) reason that Ico avoids it as scum? Feels negative for him to do that unless he thinks people are going to think what I'm currently thinking.In post 280, Alisae wrote:Ok but you didn’t you could have answered it when he asked it but instead he voted you and you were like “WHAT SCUM MOTIVATION????” And you made such a big deal compared to what it actually is.
Like when windows says
Windows: So what do you think of these 2 slots
And you respond with
Icon: I don’t want to tell you what I think about these 2 slots
How do you expect him to not want to call you out for that?
And that means you need to not engage with him?In post 282, Iconeum wrote:i didn't at that time because windows was being rude
I dislike how you were avoiding commenting on me/GC when that was a pretty big source of potential stuff to comment on. I light scumread you for ignoring it.In post 297, Iconeum wrote:ali how can you say my catchup adds nothing?
you think there's literally nothing in there?
i've had opinions on you, windows, grumpy, and paladin from the top of my head alone
that's half the players in game already
intentionally misrepping or?
From my perspective it was NAI for my read on grumpy. However, it was a 40 post exchange roughly, and ignoring it entierly is odd. Even if ignoring it was because you thought it was all NAI then why not comment something to that effect? Keeping your thoughts on it to yourself doesn't really demonstrate an open cooperative mindset.In post 304, Iconeum wrote:everyone keeps saying that the hop v GC was some big deal, i don't think it was
which is what is making this more twisted then what it actually is: me not *wanting* to respond isn't what happened, I think there wasn't all that much to respond to
Not having anything to comment on when multiple other people are saying there's something to comment on IS something to comment on. 'I don't really have anything to comment on about it because it all felt like shitposting based on their personalities' would be a perfectly reasonable response and towny to Window's question imo.In post 307, Iconeum wrote:I am gonna say this as clearly as I can.In post 305, Hopkirk wrote:Keeping your thoughts on it to yourself doesn't really demonstrate an open cooperative mindset.
I did not hold back any thoughts about anything. If I had stuff I wanted to comment on, I would have. I read the game, and not at a single time did I feel the need to comment on you guys. Not once.
When windows asked me to comment, I really wasn't gonna produce some fake read just to satisfy his query.
So givenIn post 313, Iconeum wrote:I'm not sure. When I get into heated arguments like this, i'm very often misread for a scummy tone. Especially when I'm pushing or counterpushing. Scum can easily hop on like that, but town will be just as easy.In post 312, Hopkirk wrote:How do you feel about the people who commented on it? Any look like fake answers?
What I suspect is fake however, is windows' looking at my recent games and coming up with justification that points towards scum!Ico when referenced across this game.
I'm very much looking forward to windows bringing up the actual games they skimmed, and how they compare to this and coming to scum!Ico conclusion.
What's your read on windows commenting on it in the way you say scum you would have?Honest answer: I think scum are more likely to fake an answer, pending on you 2 allignment. If it is a town v town fight, it would fit my scum agenda to push at least 1 of you guys. Agree with windows for example that it feels pockety.
Sadly you made the classic mistake of assuming Flopz was a decent human being. I'm not sure what you expected from a guy who's main hobby is going to hospitals, waiting for people to die from long-term terminal diseases, then laughing at their newly orphaned kids.In post 395, Grumpy Cat wrote:Flopz is town unless his scum partner really dictatored the kill. Flopz/I never kill Hop night 1 here, since we joined this game together for the lols.In post 389, Alisae wrote:Btw what do we think of the Hopkirk kill?
I'll look through this ISO to see how strong his scumreads were. 1 min
, The always amazing Ali 'punk, what did I just' sae, a Paladin (pretty essential for any high level play in dnd 5e), one of my two favourite cats, Flopz 'I dare you to call the cops' Flopz AND the classic Windows operating system that everyone knows and loves. Wow guys, girls, and NB pals what a great player list. Really sad that I didn't even get to play with y'all for 24 hours 
Flopz wrote:But it would be good to get either Hopkirk or Grumpy out of the way as there's a better chance for them to get a good read on me. Grumpy is Hectic btw.
Also what Hop, Grumpy, Alisae, Ico, and Ydrasse said.In post 1189, Redados wrote:Those responses were disappointing. I’m not talking about winning or losing or who made us win or who made us lose. I hope you can reflect onwhat Flopz and I said. I’m not going to engage any further, best of luck going forward!
It was nice solving with you two today. I hope we can do some more tomorrow.
