Micro 977: Video Game Metal Covers (GAME OVER!!!)

[MURDERCAT]

So hyped for this game

VOTE: Infinity

[MURDERCAT]

Wow trying to deflect already

[MURDERCAT]

:waves:

[MURDERCAT]

I went to school in that college town in western ma

[MURDERCAT]

I have family in newton

[MURDERCAT]

I mean we are already in a town block from last game I don't see why we shouldn't continue it

Koba seems cool too so yeah ez game

[MURDERCAT]

Let's start a wagon

VOTE: Doctor Drew

[MURDERCAT]

Pretty sure that's E-2 by the way

[MURDERCAT]

Why unvote?

[MURDERCAT]

Because I actually wanna play this game with my friend, and he's done nothing to warrant a D1 kill.

E-2 is hardly a day 1 kill

[MURDERCAT]

barely anything is going on

This is what I'm trying to change

[MURDERCAT]

wagon goes brrrrrrrrrrr

[MURDERCAT]

How about ask questions or try talking to people instead of running up a pointless wagon?
Like, who are your super best friends?

You say that but you are literally providing content so

[MURDERCAT]

I will at least comply with your request

@A Gambling Pig: I thought that I read a post of yours somewhere that you had an account long ago but that you are mostly new. Is that correct or did I mix you up with someone else? If I'm right, I am curious how much you played on your old account and what your general playstyle is.

[MURDERCAT]

RVS is boring call it out

[MURDERCAT]

Listen I already hard claimed cult leader, excuse me...TRVE KULT leader so I understand any suspicions coming my way.

This can't be true because I highly doubt there are two cults in this game

[MURDERCAT]

We should recruit each other and see what happens

[MURDERCAT]

My only cult game was a perfect win as leader so I'm down to challenge you

[MURDERCAT]

That does describe my general playstyle sorry

[MURDERCAT]

If we let drew live to page 6 I will consider it a failure

[MURDERCAT]

Did you win

[MURDERCAT]

no

Does this mean no I won't explain or no it's not serious

[MURDERCAT]

I will at least comply with your request

@A Gambling Pig: I thought that I read a post of yours somewhere that you had an account long ago but that you are mostly new. Is that correct or did I mix you up with someone else? If I'm right, I am curious how much you played on your old account and what your general playstyle is.

I don't think you answered this AGP

[MURDERCAT]

Talk to me infinity

[MURDERCAT]

The gamestate is slow to pick up. I have some reads that are based on next to nothing of course, but we need to start something.

Currently I am most worried about Egix, what do you think of that?

Also we are still missing Slime Collective

[MURDERCAT]

I am so worried about you being scum this game

VOTE: Egix

That's what I saw too, also the general kinda game related content without actually doing anything meaningful.

[MURDERCAT]

At least the people who are posting off topic aren't trying to look like they are advancing the game

[MURDERCAT]

Any particular post that pinged you?

[MURDERCAT]

DEB is pinging me a bit, I feel there is more than just rvs to him. But also just gut.

I got my eye on you.

expand

[MURDERCAT]

You tell us

[MURDERCAT]

@Egix, weigh in on AGP?

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: The Slime Collective

I want to put pressure on this slot given we will probably have either slime or a replacement posting soon

[MURDERCAT]

It's worth noting they have posted elsewhere on site

[MURDERCAT]

At least it's game advancing content. Do you have any reads Drew?

[MURDERCAT]

FOS on infinity?

I'm interested

[MURDERCAT]

{}
{DkKoba, Infinity 324, Dr Easy Bake, Doctor Drew}
{AGamblingPig, Jesus Louisus}
{The Slime Collective, Egix96}
{}

Here, content. Discuss.

[MURDERCAT]

Both are there for the same reason you are, what reads to me as a genuine desire to generate content. Of course I won't underestimate them as the game goes on, but there is currently very little to go off of course.

TSC is scumlean because *puts on tin foil* they are online but not posting here, perhaps because it's a hydra account and the heads want to coordinate because they rolled scum? Or perhaps they are reading but not posting because there is 0 pressure on them? Could have just not ego'd the thread but obviously with no posts there is no evidence they are town so I'm going with it.

Egix seems kinda fence sitty to me, waiting to see where the game will break without a desire to create content himself.

[MURDERCAT]

{Murder}

You really scare me with this

[MURDERCAT]

It's a good question, I don't know what my scum game is like anymore because it's been so long. I would like to think I know my meta well enough to stick to my strategy of creating game advancing content early in the game, but considering it often gets me scumread I might be more careful in practice

I think we all have a bias towards thinking it should be clear we are town when we are, so it's hard to accurately evaluate how other townies should be reading you (at least until later in the game).

I should keep in mind that you are much more likely to be town than not from simple probability.

[MURDERCAT]

I'm in the middle so I get that, but am I correct in assuming that the top tier it your current town block?

The top empty tier is strong town reads, below that are town leans

[MURDERCAT]

A small favour: do you actually think that me being passive is scummy for me in particular, or just in general?

In general. I won't meta you about that because it's just an early game read

[MURDERCAT]

AGP volunteers as tribute

[MURDERCAT]

Ok I lied I did do some meta on Egix and I think I found a tell. I won't share it right now, later I will.

VOTE: Egix

[MURDERCAT]

What do you make of Koba's push on you Egix?

[MURDERCAT]

You say you are slow to start D1, I'm trying to get you involved

[MURDERCAT]

There's room on this wagon too if you want to join

[MURDERCAT]

what Koba is doing is pretty self-explanatory

Fair enough, I'm curious what you mean by this though

[MURDERCAT]

he means that his boy egix has pressure on them and he gotta divert it elsewhere

I am more likely to gently buss than divert on D1 if I was scum.

In this game with probably 2 scum?

[MURDERCAT]

I mean I respect it, but if you are gunna bus your partner D1 shouldn't it be a hard bus you can get enough town cred from to win the game? Going to 6:1 off the bat is rough

[MURDERCAT]

I mean I agree but I still think it's better than a soft bus. Unless you mean hoping on your partner when it seems inevitable but I don't really consider that to be a bus

[MURDERCAT]

fair enough

[MURDERCAT]

There's room on this wagon too if you want to join

But y u leave?

I want even on AGP
It just seemed like the peraon who was most likely to fit your description

[MURDERCAT]

Who is buzz

[MURDERCAT]

Ok I lied I did do some meta on Egix and I think I found a tell. I won't share it right now, later I will.

VOTE: Egix

VOTE: Infinity

Still feel his 155 is a scumslip, and is the strongest read I have so far.

also scum will never try to bus if they are both in the PoE lol

I can only presume this is sarcasm?

===

VOTE: Infinity

???

I just feel clueless and that I'm not really getting anywhere this game.

Does anyone else read this as "there is pressure on me so I'm going to take this excuse to vote one of the people pressuring me?"

[MURDERCAT]

Egix you are going to have to give more justification for that because it looks pretty bad to me

[MURDERCAT]

Also if you have an rvs vote still I'd like to hear an explanation for why you aren't voting in egix/infinity right now. Let's get some action

[MURDERCAT]

Infinity 324 - AGamblingPig, Doctor Drew, Egix96
AGamblingPig - DkKoba, Infinity 324
Egix96 - MURDERCAT

Not Voting: Dr Easy Bake, Jesus Louisus, The Slime Collective

[MURDERCAT]

Infinity 324 - AGamblingPig, Doctor Drew, Egix96
AGamblingPig - DkKoba, Infinity 324
Egix96 - MURDERCAT

Buzz- Dr Easy Bake?

Not Voting: Jesus Louisus, The Slime Collective

[MURDERCAT]

I was waiting to see if it would go anywhere or if anyone else would pressure you for it

[MURDERCAT]

why tho

[MURDERCAT]

Welcome, are you a hydra or a hectic alt

[MURDERCAT]

Uh do you wanna read the game or

[MURDERCAT]

Yes. I don’t wanna talk about it.

[MURDERCAT]

We have reads

[MURDERCAT]

I want to talk to ice cream

[MURDERCAT]

I am ice cream. We change names in every game.
~Rainbow Slime

Get me blue slime then

[MURDERCAT]

He is either town or deepwolf.

This is all my games, VT, PR or scum

[MURDERCAT]

Feeling like I'm on scum at the moment so I shouldn't be hard to sort

[MURDERCAT]

Oh yeah, I will find some examples this weekend but I looked at 2 or 3 scum games and I saw a tendency for self referential statements a la 128 and 198. Like, I wasn't even looking for that specifically it was just really striking. Then I looked at a town game and didn't see it there. It's not super strong or anything, but for 10 pages into the game I am happy with it.

[MURDERCAT]

Uh he did lol

[MURDERCAT]

Can you explain more? Gun to head, do you think infinity is lean town or leen scum right now?

[MURDERCAT]

I agree that it's useful FWIW

[MURDERCAT]

If anyone wants to check how I play as scum you can check my wiki but they are all old games. I do believe that infinity would be able to town read me this quickly as town but I also believe he would do the exact same thing as scum, so I am not personally reading into it in regards to his alignment.

[MURDERCAT]

Where's your buddy rainbow slime

[MURDERCAT]

Sometimes I think I would have liked computer science. This isn't one of those times.

[MURDERCAT]

@Cat

Is Dr. Bake town?

I'm kinda leaning town in general because it doesn't look like he is trying to be town read the way I think egix is. However, I do question the early game unvote when I was trying to make content and the vote on me when I was trying to push egix. I looks like there are some sides forming around egix/me+infinity and I think we should be paying attention to those dynamics.

[MURDERCAT]

I know that's five names but the last three are about equal.

Why slime?

[MURDERCAT]

Ok I am going to make this "case" on egix and people can tell me if they make anything of it

Spoiler: egix

Here are a few self-referential posts that caught my attention (some irrelevant context has been snipped).

I will say that I am naturally not very good at coming up with ways to start conversations

I really am kind of a "wait and see" sort of person though.

Here are some posts from scum games that seemed similar to me:

Not that this is much different from how I usually am on Day 1 of games

Considering that I do sometimes have a tendency to lurk in games, I think that it would be quite hypocritical of me to be a proponent of such a strategy.

Note that these are within the first 200 posts.

I looked the through the first few hundred posts from these town games and didn't see anything like that:

viewtopic.php?t=83462&f=50&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go
viewtopic.php?t=82481&f=54&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go
viewtopic.php?t=83025&f=50&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

I don't expect this to convince anyone else really, but it was very striking when I noticed it so that's where I'm coming from. I was originally looking to see if egix is usually passive after this post:

A small favour: do you actually think that me being passive is scummy for me in particular, or just in general?

So I thought the fact that I noticed it when I wasn't looking for it was meaningful.

[MURDERCAT]

Sides forming mean jack shit until a scum flip

IMO it's useful to theorize on whether it is TvS, TvT, or SvS even before a flip. For the record, I don't have a strong opinion, though it is tempting to view the pressure I am receiving in response to the pressure I am putting on egix as a positive sign. But I'll try to ignore that.

[MURDERCAT]

Slime is there anything in egix's iso from this game that you think is town indicative?
I'm willing to drop it if so, but I'm not seeing anything there.

[MURDERCAT]

Well I went through the iso so

[MURDERCAT]

In what way? Not that I think it's scummy but it's a pretty safe readlist, no?

[MURDERCAT]

slime do you think you deserve to be town read for the content you have posted so far?

[MURDERCAT]

We believe you

[MURDERCAT]

Who is your top SR? Is it still infinity?

[MURDERCAT]

@Dr. Bake

How confident are you in your Slime vote?

Ugh, this isn't where my vote is supposed to be!
VOTE: Buzz as in Lightyear, as in "To Infinity and Beyond," as in Infinity

Is this E-1 by the way?

[MURDERCAT]

Is there anyone who is kinda active lurking? Like posting somewhat game related content but not really advancing the game much? Maybe someone with an avatar that looks like a dog?

[MURDERCAT]

I don't think that's true

[MURDERCAT]

Hey I'm contributing

[MURDERCAT]

I appreciate the case but as IO do see the similarities in vibe between the posts, these seem like posts that don't have to be "faked" as scum. They could be both truthful but coming from scum.

Do you get what I mean?

It's more a guilty/defensiveness sort of tell I think. I believe the content.

[MURDERCAT]

I don't recall a claim

I don't think so and I don't really want one unless we are very confident we want to lim there today.

[MURDERCAT]

What do you make of the infinity wagon?

[MURDERCAT]

The vote comes off kinda weird considering it was an E-1 vote and he made it all jokey, but I think that's just a personality thing.

I still think koba is town

[MURDERCAT]

not sure if i want to risk admitting im wrong but jesus is almost making me feel like my 2nd and more confident solve is wrong with this tryhard nonsense

I think JL is town for not pushing infinity

[MURDERCAT]

Nah u phrased it like u KNOW he town.

That was the context I asked the question in

[MURDERCAT]

@Dr. Bake

How confident are you in your Slime vote?

Ugh, this isn't where my vote is supposed to be!
VOTE: Buzz as in Lightyear, as in "To Infinity and Beyond," as in Infinity

Wait was this a hammer actually? Maybe I screwed up.

[MURDERCAT]

Infinity 324:Doctor Drew, Egix96, DkKoba, Dr Easy Bake
AGamblingPig: Infinity 324
The Slime Collective: AGamblingPig
Egix96: MURDERCAT, Jesus Louisus


Not Voting: The Slime Collective

Day 1 ends when a majority vote is decided or in (expired on 2020-11-17 17:20:00)

I think this is right

[MURDERCAT]

With 1 day left I think we need infinity to claim

[MURDERCAT]

Will vote anyone outside {me, MURDER, infinity, Jesus, Egix}.

You have that strong a read on both Egix and infinity?

[MURDERCAT]

I wouldn't hate doing AGP?

Otherwise I'm going to make infinity claim though

[MURDERCAT]

Ok it looks like we are going in {infinity, AGP, egix} today then.
I'm willing to move to any of those 3.
Infinity is my friend so that would make me the most sad but I'm also not convinced I will be able to read him well.

[MURDERCAT]

Ok it doesn't look like we are getting anywhere so infinity you should just claim.

[MURDERCAT]

Ok it doesn't look like we are getting anywhere so infinity you should just claim.

Ok or not

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: murder

i'll claim instead. im neighbor with murder and i think they are scum.

they've been manipulative in my neighborhood and trying to push my reads a certain way.

i do not think they are a town neighbor.

while I believed they were scum with infinity i am not as sure but i am still sure on them being scum here.

This is true and why I am TRing Koba

[MURDERCAT]

(i opened with a reaction test by hardclaiming traitor informed of them being mafia which they mechanically passed but honestly would only work on the weakest of players)

This was the basis of the strong TR, who does this as scum?

[MURDERCAT]

it was way too early

Maybe, I think the best value you can get out of a neighborhood is trying to find a TR on your partner. I went into it with a town until proven guilty POV. But that's just me.

[MURDERCAT]

murder is busy trying to think up a reply bc they are scum who have slanked the game multiple times as well opting to post elsewhere on site instead of in the game(i keep track!)

I am just now reading the posts, I don't have some grand response.

[MURDERCAT]

I am not sure if I am allowed to copy paste from the PT but here is a gist of all the posts I made about infinity

- A mention that infinity is the only person I know well in the game
- Me saying I was wary of infinity hard buddying me this game
- Me saying that I was going to keep infinity at the top of my TRs because I thought the buddying would help me
- Me saying maybe infinity is scum
- Me saying infinity and I have similar playstyles
- Me saying I was very paranoid about infinity
- Me saying there is probably 1 scum in infinity/egix
- Me saying I though 324 was a towny post
- Me saying I was ok with yeeting infinity if Koba wanted to
- Me saying that I am biased towards keeping infinity as we would work well together if he is town
- Me saying I am willing to put infinity at E-1
- Me asking if I should make infinity claim

I think that's everything based on a CTRL-F

[MURDERCAT]

I don't love that we claimed today, I said early on that if they were scum reading me I would rather have softed to try to bait an NK instead.

[MURDERCAT]

At least something is happening in the game now

[MURDERCAT]

I feel pretty decent about all of these people being town

DkKoba
MURDERCAT
The Slime Collective
Jesus Louisus

Leaving:
Dr Easy Bake
AGamblingPig
Egix96
Doctor Drew

Infinity feels like town to me but I am also paranoid about him

So I think I will be pretty happy if we elim in {egix, AGP}.

I do agree that egix could be town limbait, I did consider that the doctors could be scum together after that early unvote that seemed weird to me.

[MURDERCAT]

Do you want to do a doctor slime?

This is what weirded me out

Nah Double D is the homie
UNVOTE: Double D

[MURDERCAT]

Context was that we (I?) was trying to start a wagon to get the game moving

[MURDERCAT]

Will be back on in an hour or two

[MURDERCAT]

Neighbors, regardless of when they are allowed to speak to each other, are considered Normal on mafiascum.net. Under the current Normal guidelines, there are no restrictions on combining power roles, and Neighbours are no exception to this; in fact, Neighbours were exceptionally allowed to have additional power roles even under former rulesets in which combining power roles was disallowed.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

[MURDERCAT]

Unless everyone wants to lim me today now (doesn't seem like it), what are we doing? We have less than 24 hours

[MURDERCAT]

I will hammer infinity at deadline, I trust he has made the decision not to claim at this point.
I'd rather see one of the others though.

[MURDERCAT]

You are at E-1, just without a hard intent to hammer.

[MURDERCAT]

Consider my intent to hammer as automatic at 6 hours to deadline if it hasn't happened yet

[MURDERCAT]

Oh my b, I forgot

[MURDERCAT]

Infinity 324:Doctor Drew, Egix96, DkKoba, Dr Easy Bake

Honestly, with 3/4 people that I am unsure about on infinity, I'd rather not. Especially of Koba is just voting there because they thought I was scum.

VOTE: AGP

Can we consolidate here?

[MURDERCAT]

Infinity I don't think slime wants to do Egix, maybe we can get jesus here too? That's 4 votes

[MURDERCAT]

If we can get another person on Egix we can try to make that happen, not sure if slime is willing to do that or prefers it over you though

[MURDERCAT]

rainbow you should tell your partner to write some code that writes code for them so that they can come play too

[MURDERCAT]

I don't like this posts from Drew

[MURDERCAT]

Maybe we should vote Drew.

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: Drew

[MURDERCAT]

What is your read on Koba, Drew?

[MURDERCAT]

Takes a few Micros to get my style, but I am just VT.

I wish you wouldn't have done that

[MURDERCAT]

Even if you flip town right now I still wouldn't be convinced about infinity, can you put together a few posts with your comments?

[MURDERCAT]

you were calling on infinity to claim tho?

This was a pressure wagon, I was actually thinking of flipping infinity

[MURDERCAT]

I sheep the slime

[MURDERCAT]

murder youve made it clear through your words and presumed actions that you say you want infinity flipped but ur not doing much in tha direction

I think I've been clear that I was willing to flip infinity but that it wasn't my preferred choice. Sure that looks bad for me if infinity flips scum but it's the truth

[MURDERCAT]

I will say I am much more comfortable voting with slime and infinity than egix, the docs, and you (while you are scum reading me)

[MURDERCAT]

What is your read on Koba, Drew?

[MURDERCAT]

And again, unless I was trying to hard protect Pig as my scum buddy, what scum motivation do I have by responding to this post by Infinity?

I'm not sure I'm following this logic, where are you hard protecting pig?

[MURDERCAT]

He seemed to be the Elimination choice with the day ending, that coinciding with me doubling down on Infinity would make it seem like I am 'hard protecting' Pig......No?

I don't think there was that much pressure there to be honest.

[MURDERCAT]

If we thought you were protecting AGP and we already had a scum read there, wouldn't we have just tried to wagon AGP harder?

[MURDERCAT]

I guess I don't really agree with that argument because that's not what I saw in your posts that made me suss you.

[MURDERCAT]

I mean that wasn't really it either, but it's no matter. I am still interested in what you read on Koba is

[MURDERCAT]

The neighborhood is defined as part of the setup, you would have 2 town neighbors or a scum neighbor and a town neighbor. It's not random. My role is specifically "town neighbor."

[MURDERCAT]

So where is the neighborhood defined as part of the setup?

It's defined we just don't know it. You know? Like I've never heard of neighbors being randomly assigned

[MURDERCAT]

normal game with two scum neighbors

This is just like goons right? What would be the point in making them neighbors? Also this isn't necessarily a normal game, right?

[MURDERCAT]

What I meant was, we have no way of knowing if there actually is a neighborhood in the game

Oh I mean I guess? But that means we are both scum together and outed ourselves when there was no pressure on either of us.

[MURDERCAT]

The neighborhood is defined as part of the setup, you would have 2 town neighbors or a scum neighbor and a town neighbor. It's not random. My role is specifically "town neighbor."

Is this how you thought it worked? Like the setup has 2 neighbors and it could be randomly assigned to either town or scum?

[MURDERCAT]

Lol do you just spectate every game I'm in or does this have to do with this game?

[MURDERCAT]

I mean I was already willing to accept you have a soul read on me.
Though I'd like to put it to the test one day when I roll scum

[MURDERCAT]

I wish you read cakez's 2172 instead of 2170 though I was pretty good in that game.

[MURDERCAT]

That is an accurate description

[MURDERCAT]

I'm playing different to the last game we played where I was town might be part of it

Well you replaced in, it's more that I gave you a free town read in that game when you buddied me so I'd expect you to do it again as scum. Like as scum I think there is probably a 100% chance you hard town read me and probably an 80/90% chance you do it as town. Relatively speaking that still makes you more likely to be town because of the base probability but I don't want to let myself get hard pocketed either.

[MURDERCAT]

I don't like this posts from Drew

Drew's town, there's no way scum gets quickwagonned from something this simplistic.

Who on the wagon do you think is scum? I think all the of us saw the same thing

[MURDERCAT]

I am of the opinion that both scum are in {Drew, EZBake, Egix, AGP}

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler: Drew trying to disrupt town reads

It's a good question, I don't know what my scum game is like anymore because it's been so long. I would like to think I know my meta well enough to stick to my strategy of creating game advancing content early in the game, but considering it often gets me scumread I might be more careful in practice

I think we all have a bias towards thinking it should be clear we are town when we are, so it's hard to accurately evaluate how other townies should be reading you (at least until later in the game).

I should keep in mind that you are much more likely to be town than not from simple probability.

Yeah it's just relatively rare I see scum be

the

player who is trying to move things forward the most. Maybe you could do this as scum too but it's easy to mess up an make it look faked.

no?

Agreeing with Koba here(btw, is this still a hydra or just your main account). Taking the lead out of RVS is NAI IMO TBH(LULZ). Me personally feel more obligated when scum to try to be the one(or at least one of those) who try to push the game forward. Really dependent on the individual player.

Hoods of size 2 are more town than scum.
~Rainbow

Isn't their Hood only 2?

And I didn't think a Hood could be more than 2? Especially in a normal game?

Sorry, just not following your logic.

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler: progression on infinity doesn't feel real to me

At least it's game advancing content. Do you have any reads Drew?

Besides the gut ping on DEB and a FOS on AGP...nothing really.

Excuse, Infinity not AGP.

His 155 seems like he is overly concerned with appearing helpful/providing content.

VOTE: Infinity

Still feel his 155 is a scumslip, and is the strongest read I have so far.

What do you mean by scumslip?

Scumslip may not be the correct vernacular, but they were more focused on appearing to produce content instead of actually producing content.

Also by they, I mean you lol.

But even this response is scummy.

I am sticking on Infinity, could do Egix or Deb if necessary.

I liked drew's initial push on me, but he hasn't updated his reads since and he's talking about the 2 town in neighborhood reasoning, which doesn't seem like what town should be focusing on atm.

I wasn't 'focused' on that. I was questioning Slime on their reasoning of 2 people in a Hood being most likely town... which they haven't specifically addressed btw.

(Yes we specified that their can be more than 2 in a Hood, but they didn't respond to me asking why only two hard towns them).

And I have been clear on you as scum, followed up with Egix and DEB as light scum.

So....what are you trying to say?

Back to hard scum lean on Infinity, now he is just trying to discredit the main person still pushing him after traction builds on Pig.

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler: if drew flips scum egix has high partner equity

Also, explain exactly how I am deflecting from a potential Egix wagon?

also scum will never try to bus if they are both in the PoE lol

I can only presume this is sarcasm?

===

VOTE: Infinity

???

I just feel clueless and that I'm not really getting anywhere this game.

Ok I lied I did do some meta on Egix and I think I found a tell. I won't share it right now, later I will.

VOTE: Egix

VOTE: Infinity

Still feel his 155 is a scumslip, and is the strongest read I have so far.

also scum will never try to bus if they are both in the PoE lol

I can only presume this is sarcasm?

===

VOTE: Infinity

???

I just feel clueless and that I'm not really getting anywhere this game.

Does anyone else read this as "there is pressure on me so I'm going to take this excuse to vote one of the people pressuring me?"

It was just a hunch that DDrew might be right about Infin, that's really all it is.

You could've mentioned that a day ago, but didn't. Why?

Yes.

Though the case for Egix is compelling.

I am sticking on Infinity, could do Egix or Deb if necessary.

he means that his boy egix has pressure on them and he gotta divert it elsewhere

I am more likely to gently buss than divert on D1 if I was scum.

I liked drew's initial push on me, but he hasn't updated his reads since and he's talking about the 2 town in neighborhood reasoning, which doesn't seem like what town should be focusing on atm.

I wasn't 'focused' on that. I was questioning Slime on their reasoning of 2 people in a Hood being most likely town... which they haven't specifically addressed btw.

(Yes we specified that their can be more than 2 in a Hood, but they didn't respond to me asking why only two hard towns them).

And I have been clear on you as scum, followed up with Egix and DEB as light scum.

So....what are you trying to say?

I am used to the Baker modded games where fucking anything goes(which I like....the Mod knows lol).

I still feel strongly about Infinity, but as said would switch for DEB or Egix.

Pre Edit: Yes, I overthought things. Was thinking it as a predetermined slot filled by whoever rather than a pre set role randomly given out to players.

I don't like this posts from Drew

Drew's town, there's no way scum gets quickwagonned from something this simplistic.

[MURDERCAT]

Anyway, my solve right now is drew/egix

[MURDERCAT]

I am willing to make myself look bad by advocating for a push onto Drew here. We know it's a safeish elim anyway because of VT claim.

[MURDERCAT]

Currently e-2 on Drew I think

[MURDERCAT]

Day 1 ends when a majority vote is decided or in (expired on 2020-11-17 17:20:00)

bump

[MURDERCAT]

I am here for hammer so no quickhammer please. I will hammer before deadline. I want to hear from infinity first.

[MURDERCAT]

Oh ffs.

[MURDERCAT]

I think infinity was softing

[MURDERCAT]

You scum infinity?

[MURDERCAT]

Haha I'm bad

[MURDERCAT]

Nah, I was too afraid of you catching me so I got you to TR me at the expense of everyone else.

that is very generous of you

[MURDERCAT]

Were you gunna fake claim?

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: Infinity

I am 99% sure that was a hammer but just in case

[MURDERCAT]

You will laugh at the neighborhood thread, half the posts are about you

[MURDERCAT]

Sorry Drew <3

[MURDERCAT]

I knew it couldn't be you it was infinity the whole time! I was just uhh

[MURDERCAT]

hi powerelim murder on a scumflip

yeah
I accept my fate
Let me at least give reads tomorrow though

[MURDERCAT]

Im flipping regular neighbor, murder has all but claimed the same in hood chat

Confirm

[MURDERCAT]

AGP did

[MURDERCAT]

Getting the hammer in on scum gives you big town cred
If you don't die at some point it looks weird

[MURDERCAT]

A bold take

[MURDERCAT]

Hey that was pretty cool huh, good work team

[MURDERCAT]

This post is going to come across as a scum claim. Sorry in advance.
Neighbor/goon is a reasonable combo in a low power game. If it's a higher power game it probably isn't.
We could mass claim today, which may prevent my miselim. It risks a mass claim resulting in no benefit if I end up elimmed anyway.
However, it would allow an inno on me to come forward which would be nice. We probably have something, because a protective should have been on Koba for sure last night.
We could probably setup a POE based on mass claim to win the game.

So in general I want to hear people's thoughts about me. If everyone wants me gone, no problem.
If there is doubt about me then I think we should at least consider a mass claim.
We are in a really good spot, so the PRs are less needed than they otherwise would be.

[MURDERCAT]

If you were wondering what happened in the hood last night, it was all shit posts.

[MURDERCAT]

Really? I think your hammer comes from scum some % of the time. That said, probably not in the way you did it.

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: Murder

Just as a placeholder.

ngl, 701 does feel rehearsed. Plus the whole hood thing.

VOTE: Murder

It is rehearsed, we talked about it in the hood

[MURDERCAT]

Koba still wanted me or JL fwiw, I don't think I convinced them I was town but I also didn't really try. I wasn't expecting them to die, I figured scum would be scared of protective on the slot.

[MURDERCAT]

How does that make it scummy?

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah I know, I'm saying that it sounds that way because koba and I talked about a lot of this already in between trolling each other about who was gunna kill who

[MURDERCAT]

actually.

get jesus > murder

Ok we all know what the 1v1 is for today

VOTE: Jesus

Mostly sheeping and voting out of self preservation to keep the perfect win possibility in tact for koba

Why is everyone so quiet?

[MURDERCAT]

I appreciate the novelty of your voting style but if it could just be a bit more clear that would be great. I assume it's a vote for me?

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah I mean it's true lol

[MURDERCAT]

Not my best game

[MURDERCAT]

I think I'm

E-1

by the way though I don't think gamma will count that vote

The terms used were explicit enough and it was promptly clarified. It counts.

[MURDERCAT]

If I were scum I would

[MURDERCAT]

Come post friends, vote me if you want just do something

[MURDERCAT]

Are you really gunna make me lead town from this spot? No one wants to lead a hunt for the second scum to get the perfect win?

[MURDERCAT]

That being said, you as scum neighbor would fit balance wise with Infinity flipping just goon.

This totally depends on the rest of the setup

[MURDERCAT]

AGP hammering a scum buddy but making it look like a mistake is like the worst bus ever

[MURDERCAT]

I also feel somewhat inclined to push for a mass claim but with us hitting scum on D1 it isn't really a requirement for today. But a perfect win would be nice but we aren't in any LYLO situation right now so massclaiming would probably just lead us to eliminate someone who claims VT.

From my POV it probably just reduces the poe even further and speeds up what will probably be a town win. Like we probably don't have protective so we probably do have some type of investigative. So my guess is that a mass claim leads to two plus conf towns just based on mech which could include me, a likely scum slot. 6-1 mountainous is probably good enough for a town win, just a bit of info from masd claim would put us over the edge for sure. But of course PRs are likely to want to get more out of their abilities, if that's the case so be it. I have a personal bias towards wanting to do it considering I claimed already

[MURDERCAT]

I am just assuming based on the goon flip that scum has something more than another goon left.

I agree but if there is high power we may determine scum needs to have a RB or role cop or something that gives a bit of power

[MURDERCAT]

From my pov odds of my miselim go way down if we mass claim
But maybe I can fight out of it anyway. The problem is that I kind of just want to eat it if there isn't a good way to clear me because I can't live to elo then

[MURDERCAT]

I would not have gotten myself into this spot if I were partners with infinity
But if I were in this spot forcing a mass claim would probably be my best play. Though honestly I might have just conceded by now

[MURDERCAT]

Am I not obv towning
If I didn't want to try as scum I would concede, no reason to waste everyone's time

[MURDERCAT]

Are you really gunna make me lead town from this spot? No one wants to lead a hunt for the second scum to get the perfect win?

[MURDERCAT]

Scum in here:

MURDERCAT
Dr Easy Bake
AGamblingPig
Egix96
The Slime Collective
Doctor Drew
Jesus Louisus


My poe is probably something like JL / easy bake so I'm going to be paying special attention to those slots

Spoiler: infinity

Koba is interesting, the "oh I'm voting here to get reactions without explaining my reasons" is a thing that's easily fakeable as scum especially since they haven't engaged with other content. I am kinda getting townvibes from dr. drew's posts so far, I do think town is likely to interpret me forcing myself to explain everything because I feel like the game needs it as scum trying to look town. I don't really put stock in activity reads like your read on slime collective.

{Murder}
{DEB, drew}
{jesus, slime}
{koba, AGP, egix}

That's where I'm at atm.

DEB high is a little sketchy because I think it's undeserved, but I feel like a scum partner is more likely in the slime/jesus level

Do you have any reads besides on me and DEB?

/shrug

VOTE: Buzz

Why (try to) vote for me here?

{koba, murder}
{slime, jesus}
{DEB, drew}
{agp, egix}

hmm

Not a lot of interaction with either slot to be honest

Spoiler: infinity votes

VOTE: murder hi!

VOTE: jesus >:(

VOTE: doctor drew

VOTE: egix

VOTE: AGP scum are more likely to interpret things as scumreading them and overreact, and I would like to get some reads since most people have given at least one read so far.

VOTE: koba

VOTE: AGP

Really was not paying attention to the deadline, also where is gamma

VOTE: egix

VOTE: agp not as confident here but ok

Normally when town starts a push on someone, they update the read based on future posts. You...haven't done that with me (until I called you out for it) besides mentioning that you were getting townvibes from some future posts but kept your vote. I haven't seen you do much sorting besides the pressure on me early. The only reasoning for the egix scumread is "the case for egix is compelling", and you just haven't given a ton of reasoning for reads. I could see this coming from town, but don't try to tell me you've been actively scumhunting the whole game.

Koba, all of the reasons for my reads are in my ISO (besides DEB, who...hasn't really done much).

PEdit: VOTE: drew

@Infinity

Do you think scum on your wagon?

Weird question to infinity (this was part of all the RQS)

JL and infinity spend a lot of time dancing around AGP and egix

Infinity hasn't really caught my eye except indirectly through the push on them.

JL was kinda MIA towards the end of the day

I’m voting for buzz tyvm

+ town for DEB

There really isn't much in the iso..