976: mystyry box of sylvyr I: isis game. day 3

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Titus and her are/were really close and you remind me a lot of Pirate Mollie she is/was a good town player but devastatingly good scum

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It happens. I didn’t take any offense. Did I offend you?

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And you’re welcome

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Care to discuss it with me in PMs so I become better and not fuck that up? Public is okay too if you prefer. If not I understand.

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Btw read the scum PT Mastina no offense taken.

Sometimes I am a train wreck but that only happens on MS.

Not sure why.

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I mean I hinted to you Skye crumbed and you not picking it up was weird. I was also using that some to gauge you too.

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Mainly even if Nic was town (in this case he was) his claim was so bad that he needed to be elimmed as he wasn’t following it. While it was possible he was town his claim and actions following it were so bad he couldn’t be allowed to live and was a liability to town left standing. Any argument of Nic town had to supercede that.

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Subject: micro 976: ded thred

Ugh Mastina probably shot me so hard. I just don’t get why when she could discredit me

Because while I figured I could convince you I am town pretty easily, you had enough merits to have earned it. Universal townread, active poster who while causing chaos also cut through it, and did manage to catch the scumteam D1 even if you managed to talk yourself out of it. Just, you were on point this game and that made you a threat.

Thank you <3

It was nice to see that I was killed for improving on MS.

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And I thought he was obvtown and didn't need to be eliminated.

ObvTown sometimes has to be elimmed. He really wasn’t though. The pattern he did reminds me of so many scum claims and parallels. Bad claim followed by not wanting to step back and reevaluate meant he’d tunnel Dunn all game no matter what or always had an antitown value.

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Yeah. I can see that being annoying but Nic was in effect scumclaiming in my mind because of how poorly that was played. So you by wanting to hunt elsewhere looked to be trying to escape a Nic elim.

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Honestly, this post is just to claim the pagetop, but what part of Tris' post is so Alien to you? Why do you think it is scum?

Because gut?

Do you expect an actual logical reasoned case for a literal page one read?

Hello y'all i'm a kind of reflexive role, could i get visits on me in the coming nights? Kthxbye

Town.

nice try scum pgo

Town?

this kinda pings my gut though I have trouble explaining why
ehhhh
VOTE: skye

Shamelessly upgrading my read on you from Town? to Town.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas
Who, similarly, gets upgraded from scum? to Scum from page two.

Okay I think Mastina and Skye are against each other.

why is town!ari more likely to make that post than tris?

Because tris making that post is probably scum, but Ari making that post is far more likely to be a town-Aristophanes due to Aristophanes being Aristophanes.

You can't expect an action to universally always be scummy or always be townie with 100% accuracy and not take into account specific players. An action that might be generically in-general scummy can be a lock-scumtell for some players or a town indicator for other players even if in general it's scummy; an action that might generically in-general be townie can be a locktown level of town in some players...but also a dead giveaway that some players are actually scum.

25 is a post that, in general, generically speaking, I'd consider to be a scummy post to make.
From tris, I'd go one step further and say it's even a lockscum post.
But from Aristophanes, knowing him as a player, it's actually the opposite, a post that for him, indicates he's more likely to be town.

And this is where I look at Mastina and go ? Uhm what?

Assuming I buy your argument the claims are inverse. And I cannot say why without being proscum/neut.

Town you imho is better at it openly.
Scum you picks it up but doesn’t comment.

So you not even reacting at all was weird:

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I mean it wasn't even about hunting. I like 70% expected to come out of talking to TGP with a townread, but I wanted to actually get that read at that stage in the game and you made it impossible.

And I understand that you were passionate about it, but Nic obviously wasn't actually scumclaiming. That's where I felt like there was just no point arguing about it because you weren't willing to really entertain the idea that it could be otherwise and I thought we'd sort of reached the point of... agreeing to disagree? on that?

And the smart thing to do when you have a guilty scum is give no quarter elsewhere. Especially with a scum like Mastina. I don’t regret the elim happening and if someone claims that badly they should be the elim every time even if town.

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If someone is clearly town, they shouldn't be eliminated no matter how badly they claim unless they're like lolhammering other town at every chance. I'd rather eliminate scum.

Although I admit, I don't feel too bad about DT, that did narrow the possible teams

a lot

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I feel the same about Nic.

Mastina imho worked way off of TMI to defend Nic.
She used a similar argument to attempt to elim April in a game and I was scum and just sort of gave it to her. I got literally tired of arguing against it. Miselimming April was a good thing to happen for town though.

Just because town dies doesn’t mean it’s bad. It’s a matter of if scum can breathe.

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I don’t always view the game as a have to elim scum. (Granted 99% of the time I am on a scumread) but if they end up town it’s not horrible til late game.

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It’s more than thought process though.

He was literally pushing someone against mod confirmed info. That’s not thought that’s scum.

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If it was a case or subjectivity sure.

This was just “you are literally ignoring what mod told you and refuse to reset” therefore you must be elimmed. I push that every time no regrets.

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No. We can’t.

Nic was town but when someone ignores what the mod tells them (in this case Dunn as 3P) then continues to hang onto that despite being corrected and vouched for by a townread who has had a shit ton of EXP with the player, the elim had to happen barring someone providing more than a read.

Yes. 90% chance. Means you don’t push them d1 ever.

I think insane is the wrong word but Dunn when a PR plays scummy to avoid the NK but still generally keeps up and boosts others. Scum Dunn is a lurk sac.

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Some plays may not always get the best result but are 100% necessary. Eg 95% of the time a player claiming that bad is scum. Could they be town, sure. Until you bring the percentage down I don’t care and will funnel them.

Ignoring mod confirmed info is one of those 95% things.

Pedit: Agree to disagree here I think is good because it is objective. I am presenting it as such because it is imho.

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Gonna agree to disagree to avoid the cycle here and not respond to that to avoid repetitiveness.