Micro 984: my beautiful dark twisted familytree [COMPLETE]

[DeasVail]

Hi!

[DeasVail]

It must be!

I realize I should not be town-telling so hard since this is unlikely to count but I did not really read the rules before posting

Do you mean to imply that you will be mafia in the final game?

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VOTE: Kanna

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that's not what bothered me

Sure then what did?

the spam obviously

I hardclaim Father
not dealing with this bs this game
UNVOTE: because of mom claim
VOTE: deasvail for not addressing anyone else

To be fair, it’s all pretty unimportant so far. I’m much more interested in kanna at the moment.

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I only have kanna’s pregame posting to go off but it feels empty. There’s talk of “finally being town together” with Pooky and lots of that positive vibez buddy buddy stuff, but this is kanna’s setup. Where is the excitement at getting to play your own setup in a unique (EP-style) way? “Let’s speedrun” doesn’t really count imo.

It’s early, my mind could change a thousand times, but compared to others who have really gotten into it, kanna lets me down. I need more!

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i'm halfway expecting someone to come in and counterclaim cakez. i was going to use game 1 to mess around and play the setup without claims but i guess we can do this instead

UNVOTE:

VOTE: kanna

DV is fine.

What happened to Dv is fine?

I’m always skeptical of the word “fine”.

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i hope this is finally the game where we are town together <3

There are 0 universes where S!Kanna says this to T!Pooky

I really need more convincing on this

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i cant believe we havent elimmed anyone yet when this game might not even count :3

It might matter though!!!

(But yeah I could imagine us just random eliminating by the time we get to the real one out of fatigue)

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*24

i will read soon

I don’t think EP was about to replace you, it’s cool

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cakez is married to you but you don't love him

There could be something there!!
You never know

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UNVOTE:

Catching up now

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So insomnia is town
I'm town

I want to go back to DV for avoiding the Koba debate
VOTE: DV

Was this the "whether to lynch Koba or not" debate?

If so, it's probably worth considering that all that happened during the middle of night in my timezone.

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For clarification I just looked and the early parts of the discussion actually occurred during my evening. I don't remember seeing it until the next morning though. I don't think it matters?

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I like it too

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I’m at work right now and won’t get the chance to look properly at things for a while. I’m really not sure what’s best but I’m not usually an EV kind of guy so I don’t really mind?

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You see, this is why I asked if any of the three IC's had claimed. That makes no yeeting substantially worse. Has anyone claimed mother?

Insomnia has claimed mother

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Also bingle, I’m interested in your confidence in making recommendations about what we should do without having read the game.

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I would think that what claims have been made/not made and what actually happened would be relevant to the decision we make.

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Like, you seem to have had no idea?

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The more I think about it, the more that no elimination just makes sense to me?

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Yeah at this point I don’t think there’s any point in no-limming

Having no idea whether this is THE GAME or not has created so much unexpected exciting mystery gosh

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I’d like to hear from insomnia, re: no elim vs. elim.

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That is amazing <3

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I thought I should post because it's been a while but I don't have much more to say right now?

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^ this statement was about ur lives in the world but u can interpret it to be about mafia too

<3

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VOTE: Bingle

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I’m happy to stay in

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oops. i was just thinking if scum shot me, we would've won because dv was confirmed not!child.

thank you for modding, EP, i had fun with you guys! i agree this setup is probably suited for a blitz. o7

That’s why I was so scared that I’d gotten it wrong!

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Let’s do this thang!

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So we voting Bingle right fellas? For old times' sake

I have never lost a towngame where I yeeted town PB.

VOTE: PB

Sorry buddy, but gambler's fallacy hates you.

But what if he's scum?

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Re: Mathblade and Koba, I townread Math more than I townread Koba, but I'm also not very convinced by Koba being scum either! (I'll have to think more on that one)

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Where did you gooooo?

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Koba I don't think Math is scum

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DV i thought u replaced out LOL

Um you were scumreading Math because of his townread on me?

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please don't discredit my reads right away DV

Did you say this because I told you that I think Math is town?

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So DV are they bad town or scum?

I am leaning town right now, but not certain

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I’m at work right now and have only seen that last post, so I know you voted me without actually seeing the vote oops

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I haven’t read the last two pages yet but I need to say now that I feel very cautious about claim plans etc in this setup. As mafia last game I felt that all the claims actually made it much easier for me to plan kills and ultimately win and with mafia actually knowing who the loved parent here is I worry that it would be even more advantageous for them

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Koba as much as you say you wouldn’t care about setup spec as scum I feel like a lot of what you’re saying is either irrelevant or unhelpful

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VOTE: Koba

This only moves if someone explains how this is town.

its ok ur the lim today anyways <3

Do you actually think MathBlade is scum?

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VOTE: Koba

This only moves if someone explains how this is town.

its ok ur the lim today anyways <3

Do you actually think MathBlade is scum?

yes, because if they were town they would not be trapped into scumreading me in this game state.

Idk, I’m doubting you too right now

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Not everyone that suspects you can be scum

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VOTE: Koba

This only moves if someone explains how this is town.

its ok ur the lim today anyways <3

Do you actually think MathBlade is scum?

yes, because if they were town they would not be trapped into scumreading me in this game state.

Idk, I’m doubting you too right now

lmfao get this wishy washy shit outta here

And yet it sounds like you want math to be more wishy washy?

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Um

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That uh escalated quickly

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I’m still processing it

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Like I still didn’t strongly think Koba was scum. I was mainly trying to work that out.

And I still don’t know what to think of this

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Whatever the case I don’t feel like limming Koba right now is the play? I still want to hear from peta/galron/pookie more

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Whatever the case I don’t feel like limming Koba right now is the play? I still want to hear from peta/galron/pookie more

You. I am only interested in Kopa or you

Do you think we could be scum together?

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Aw

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What is concerning you Math?

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really, because i townread koba way more off that exchange

Math seemed much more focused on game thoughts and sorting things (in his own way) while Koba’s posting appeared more demonstrative to me.

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nah

I thought you said you did!

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can i just tell you i have a relatively decent idea of how koba plays and this is very much frustrated town koba and not scum koba

Sure. Notice I am not voting them.

Do you think I am wrong on my Pink Ball town read or Galron is scum or you’re being voted by two town? First two can be and/or.

let me get back to you on that

can i just tell you i have a relatively decent idea of how koba plays and this is very much frustrated town koba and not scum koba

imagine thinking you can read koba smh

lmao at the idea of koba faking a meltdown as scum in a game that probably wont matter

The idea of a town meltdown also feels bizarre to me

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The idea of a town meltdown also feels bizarre to me

that is because you are a tranquil pool of water

This might actually be the most accurate read anyone has had on me in a mafia game ever

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Pookie something seems off to me about you here

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but can you really look at their most recent posts and see that coming from scum?

It still doesn’t seem impossible to me but Koba is not the priority rn

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MathBlade was a strong townread for me so Koba’s fixation on him was weird imo

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MathBlade was a strong townread for me so Koba’s fixation on him was weird imo

What’s your read on the ball of pink?

Initial impression is possible scum but I will be reading over things again when I finish work.

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Can confirm the above

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The pool of possible scum that I’m considering at the moment includes Pink Ball, Pooky and Cakez.

Pink Ball’s vote on me is honestly the most suspicious of all. I don’t get a sense from his posting that he truly thinks I’m scum and it seems very much like a folding to pressure. By itself, I could go either way on not really paying much attention to the votes and wagon on me but the eventual vote without any evidence of conviction feels off.

Pooky comes across as the most different here compared to last game. Pooky was such a town VOICE there but here it’s just.... falling flat.

Cakez I don’t have any reasons I’m convinced by off the top of my head right now. It might be OMGUS

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honestly this is a lot right now and I feel like I'm just defaulting to just scumreading the people who aren't talking much and I'm not sure that is even accurate here?

This whole thing is really weird because it's like, I want to try and read people but with everyone saying "this game probably doesn't matter" it just creates a weird vibe. But then what if it does matter? Argh

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Petapan

How come you’re so defensive?

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lmao

I feel let down!

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The defensive thing was mostly a joke

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I’m used to peta being a bit more solve-y though. Since the initial reasons for scumreading me, I don’t get much impression of that.

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POOF!

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hmm I realised that could be taken out of context

what about...

BWOOSH!

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Welcome Titus!!

I’ve had a tiring work day and can’t focus on this right now. I’ll have more time during the day tomorrow

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Pink I do want to know why Titus and why now?

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VOTE: Titus

this is the most garbage vote in this whole game and i voted myself.

This was not very different at all from what I thought as soon as I saw the vote.

(Although it was probably more wtf? on my end)

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Actually

VOTE: Pink Ball

This is what I think should happen

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a dumb titus viote is not enough to make me want to kill pink ball

It’s the fact that this comes after pink ball’s play for the rest of this day. It feels random, like scum just wanting to put a vote somewhere but without any conviction or substance. I can see this from town early game but as we approach deadline it just feels so off

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: DkKoba

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Math I think that once Bingle claims parent and declares a vote the correct play is to follow that vote, unless it’s obviously wrong I guess.

Contesting bingle there forces bingle to reveal more and gives scum too much information imo

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It’s important to consider that apart from Pink Ball (who is no longer with us, RIP, sorry for suspecting you :’( ), Bingle was (and is) the town player with the most information.

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I am not cc’ing bingle.

Also I don’t think the “why did scum not want to eliminate me?” question is super important because I think as a general rule scum tend to be more afraid of actually pushing a vote through, but some (peta, Cakez, you) already were votes on my wagon so don’t really count because if scum is in that group then well they tried, didn’t they?

Titus as scum could see me as someone that would be more likely to tiwnread her. Pooky could be worried about it looking too much like OMGUS.

These are just some possible reasons imo

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Hmmm I only just noticed the Titus vote on me. It seems very strange after Day 1

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Maybe I can do a cartwheel?

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What about a somersault?

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I’m still /in.

Awesome job bringing home the win peta!

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Oh gosh I’m finally town

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VOTE: petapan

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VOTE: petapan

i told u not to bus me

I am oppositional like that

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I think Koba and MathBlade are town

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I think Koba and MathBlade are town

Cool. Wanna convince me you’re not scum three times in a row?

Not really right now? Maybe later if I need to

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I thought that I was scum?

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I do agree that Titus could be scum, but still

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VOTE: Titus

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We can tell SorCakez was a mafia planned death because Pink Ball was on it.

I am quite sure that Pink Ball's vote on Cakez was not with the intention of eliminating Cakez.

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I think that Titus' posts here are awkward and come from scum-Titus not really knowing what to do or what to say and not really having the motivation to put all that much effort into working out what to do/what to say.
The expressed suspicion of Math feels limp and unnatural. It is not the kind of reasoning that I can see Titus actually believing in as town, and I would be content with eliminating Titus unless Titus does something to convince me otherwise.

I quite liked the version of the world in my head where petapan was mafia again because I thought that would be funny but it doesn't seem as likely as Titus being mafia unfortunately.

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I am not scum this time.

And I’ll catch up on the last couple of pages soon

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I think you, Bingle, Koba are town. Titus most likely scum. I plan to reevaluate this over the next couple of hours

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Titus still makes the most sense to me currently. I am wary of others however I do not have a better option in mind at this stage

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VOTE: DV

I am town

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I am the moderator. /s

Just as there is a point to your post here, there was a point to mine.

One of the things I find most difficult as town is to post in a way that I wouldn't as scum, but I guess I'll keep posting and see what happens.

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VOTE: deasvail

idk

is there a reason why you think titus is town?

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why do you think bingle is town? for his entry to the day?

In part, yes. I also feel that Bingle would be trying harder to replicate their game 1 and game 2 play as scum

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I am still town

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3rd

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It does seem a lazy vote to me especially, with peta probably being the laziest of the votes? But I’m not sure that’s alignment-indicative.

I still suspect Titus most

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I think the Cakez wagon is not as relevant as people have been treating it

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Also tbh I’m left with peta as most likely scum from my pov

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uhh i probably don't forget about the game so much that i forget to hammer, for one thing

as scum i'd be pr hunting but mafia likely knew titus was absolutely not a named townie and killed her to keep the possibility of child kill for an automatic win open while making us have to tread lightly today

Who did you forget to hammer?

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I think the Cakez wagon is not as relevant as people have been treating it

Then talk about what is relevant. Why do you scumread Peta?

I have reasons to think others are town.

Why aren’t you voting Peta if you think it is Peta?

I’ll vote when I’m ready for someone to be eliminated

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Someone Unvote I feel nervous about this.

I really think it’s DV here.

VOTE: DV

Um I would have just hammered Bingle if I were scum.

It would be way too risky for me to rely on surviving today.

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Okay let’s talk about Koba.

I found all the WIFOMy stuff kind of town having fun with the setup but I can see a world where it comes from scum. I’m just currently in fairly heavy doubt about it though so I want to here more on why Koba’s play here comes from scum

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prediction: DV quickhammers me and hopes that i flip vt and shoots for child

I thought you said I was town

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Thanks for modding EP!