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Post #1240 (isolation #200 ) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:32 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:32 pm
Hmm I think if hectic was scum he would probably have started TRing pooky by this point. When pooky flips town people are likely to come after him, and he had a chance to flip his read. He's too locked in as scum
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Post #1246 (isolation #201 ) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:42 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:42 pm
Actually, everyone in the 3p group is pretty much, pending skitt rethinking her reads. Maybe skitt votes norwee but yeah. I think a lot of people will come after hectic pretty soon if pooky flips town just based on PoE, since no one really suspects you or ydrasse and not too many people want norwee either? Vander is like the only mislim scum!hectic doesn't have to really push for
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Post #1250 (isolation #202 ) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:05 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:05 pm
@skitt If pooky is scum this a panic room situation where there aren't really mislimmable townies and scum can't really do anything
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Post #1252 (isolation #203 ) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:22 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:22 pm
A game where skitt rolled me as scum
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Post #1253 (isolation #204 ) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:22 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:22 pm
(I was scum)
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Post #1258 (isolation #205 ) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:13 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:13 pm
In post 1257 , skitter30 wrote: In post 1250 , Infinity 324 wrote: @skitt If pooky is scum this a panic room situation where there aren't really mislimmable townies and scum can't really do anything
i mean i imagine that's the case irregardless of pooky's alignment given the pl
it's kinda like the normal a bunch of us just played too
This is to answer your "what are scum doing?" question, they're not doing anything because they can't really. I mean if pooky is scum it's probably just you as the partner but yeah.
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:18 am
In post 1272 , NorwegianboyEE wrote:
I mean, i get your frustration in not being able to convince me if you’re town here and certain you’re right. But i’m not the type of player that get’s convinced by the exact same argument repeated over and over again. You’re going to have to find another way if you’re that certain No Face is scum.
I'm glad mena came around here, but yeah this is a townpost
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Post #1307 (isolation #207 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:21 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:21 am
This is like saying that coming back from vacation to find a shitshow at work and not being able to fix it was "not your proudest moment"
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Post #1310 (isolation #208 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:31 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:31 am
Yep it's pretty much where I'm at too. There's a couple things that give me pause: 1. Skitt and pooky are strong scum players and you'd think they'd have better arguments, 2. I have a hard time seeing jingle/pooky so it would really have to be skitt/pooky.
That said, I'll give this one more RL day for norwee/mena to say their piece but then I'm gonna hammer. If pooky is town, this game needs their flip to move on.
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Post #1312 (isolation #209 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:39 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:39 am
Skitt also hasn't really towntold this game
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Post #1315 (isolation #210 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:47 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:47 am
Yeah I could see that. I wanna see skitt!scum at 100%
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Post #1319 (isolation #211 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:16 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:16 am
Sometimes I make pushes so that people understand where I'm at, a vote is always better than not voting
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Post #1321 (isolation #212 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:27 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:27 am
Yes, often they're PoE
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Post #1322 (isolation #213 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:29 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:29 am
In post 474 , Infinity 324 wrote: I actually think pooky is not so likely to be scum because I think they'd put themselves in the group of 3 in order to 1v1 people, because that's where I've seen scum!pooky be most comfortable
I've talked myself into this by PoE
VOTE: no face
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Post #1325 (isolation #214 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:49 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:49 am
In post 1323 , PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: Yes thats true
but as infomation changes and your reasons are addressed/answered... you change your vote no?
if you dont just hand wave it and keep voting the same person...
Hectic's reasons weren't addressed/answered though
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Post #1326 (isolation #215 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:50 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:50 am
This is getting circular
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Post #1333 (isolation #216 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:14 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:14 am
The PoE wasn't addressed though
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Post #1336 (isolation #217 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:20 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:20 am
In post 1334 , PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
It's not even possible to address a PoE.
Am I supposed to find reasons that he should have for townreading me that he didn't see? He could just argue those reasons are NAI or performed by scum me to get townread.
No you have to address why the reasons for townreading other people are wrong. That's how a PoE works.
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Post #1342 (isolation #218 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:28 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:28 am
I'm done with this argument
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Post #1348 (isolation #219 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:37 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:37 am
In post 1346 , PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
fine but just promise me you elim him next ok? I'm sick of talking about this thing that's so obvious that apparently nobody but me can see anyway
I'll strongly consider it, I avenged you in jk9++ remember?
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Post #1366 (isolation #220 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:54 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:54 am
You were the chosen one, hectic! You were supposed to destroy the chill games, not join them! You were supposed to embrace the toxic 1v1s, not leave them to die!
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Post #1380 (isolation #221 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:29 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:29 am
Pooky is a strong scum player, also hectic's explanation about skitt not feeling great about playing scum lately makes sense. If I was scum with pooky and they explained to me that town would be limming in the 6p I'd definitely be in the 3p still
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Post #1388 (isolation #222 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:21 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:21 am
Mena are you caught up/do you have more thoughts you want to share
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Post #1396 (isolation #223 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:30 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:30 am
VOTE: pooky
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Post #1399 (isolation #224 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:33 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:33 am
Quicklim ydrasse if this flips town
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Post #1401 (isolation #225 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:34 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:34 am
Was a joke
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Post #1404 (isolation #226 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:35 am
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Post #1407 (isolation #227 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:38 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:38 am
Oh I may have misread that question
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Post #1430 (isolation #228 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:45 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:45 am
Is pooky not hammered?
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Post #1435 (isolation #229 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:46 am
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:46 am
Oh, was hectic already voting pooky?
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Post #1456 (isolation #230 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:37 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:37 pm
Yesssssssss
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Post #1457 (isolation #231 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:37 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:37 pm
I assume it was skitt too?
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Post #1459 (isolation #232 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:44 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:44 pm
I'm silly
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Post #1460 (isolation #233 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:54 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:54 pm
Ydrasse I am going to try really hard to not hold your towngame to unreasonable expectations of towniness from now on
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Post #1463 (isolation #234 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 pm
Mena when we play together in the future we're going to do a lot of compromising to make our playstyles work, I think we can do it though
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Post #1482 (isolation #235 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:38 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:38 pm
In post 1479 , Ydrasse wrote: STILL!!
hmph.
maybe i will try to be more active in games in the future..
It's a lot more fun when you post :)
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Post #1488 (isolation #236 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:43 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:43 pm
Me too, I'm now scared for my scumgame but c'est la vie
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Post #1496 (isolation #237 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:49 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:49 pm
In post 1490 , Isis wrote: I reckon towns are too good these days for setups like this :(
Probably, what's the EV?
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Post #1499 (isolation #238 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:51 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:51 pm
In post 1497 , Menalque wrote: normals which i don’t tend to enjoy so much from a mafia PoV regardless of how much I like the PL
Relatable
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Post #1501 (isolation #239 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:53 pm
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Post #1512 (isolation #240 ) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:12 pm
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by Infinity 324 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:12 pm
The game was pretty long for a marathon tbh
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Post #1521 (isolation #241 ) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:39 am
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by Infinity 324 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:39 am
In post 1519 , Jingle wrote:
What Vanders was talking about with math was the EV. Depending on strategies, town should win somewhere between 40 and 50% of the time.
The problem is that the setup inevitably gives a bunch of info that is really hard to quantify so the EV is largely pointless as a meter stick.
I don't think the setup itself was the issue here, but rather the specific situation of Pooky/Skitter being the team and town obvtowning pretty hard from the beginning. A town sweep doesn't mean necessarily mean the setup is broken and I think pretty much any other rand would have played out very differently.
I agree that town obvtowning really quickly was the problem, I'm not sure if the rand would've made that different though. In any plist with a bunch of people who know each other it's gonna happen a decent percentage of the time.
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by Infinity 324 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:36 am
@jingle Makes sense I don't know enough about setups to agree or disagree
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