Micro 1005: Help Isis, Scholarship Student at Noon
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?In post 179, Andresvmb wrote:Alisae (not sure if recently, though I definitely remember an old game we played together where I lost in final 3 after incorrectly concluding they were Scum).| here.GTKAS-
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oh so I was wrong on ydra
I thought she was scummy because he andre read as well as mine just felt really made up and if she was scum I would expect her to have those reads. It really felt like she was trying to make something out of nothing| here.GTKAS-
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In post 336, Alisae wrote:oh so I was wrong on ydra
I thought she was scummy because he andre read as well as mine just felt really made up and if she was scum I would expect her to have those reads. It really felt like she was trying to make something out of nothing| here.GTKAS-
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Like have you read these posts?In post 197, Ydrasse wrote:i don't like 180 from andres, how he pointed out what alisae was doing and he was like oh... i'll still townread it... like he's trying to make himself look good etc etc
I don't see how these come from a town!ydraIn post 300, Ydrasse wrote:andres pinged me for what i explained, but he hasnt been around more to actually interact or say more. alisae already is making me go ? because of that normal game where e instantly clocked me for town and this game theyre like they dont trust me and idk, maybe i expect someone boasting about how well they can read me being able to tell that i'm town again fast enough and it's jarring to me that they're in opposite territory, pooky isn't inherently scummy but i don't like the way he's talking about the game basically and it's not any deeper than that.
those are the most concrete reasons i have to dislike people/not heal them.| here.GTKAS-
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Also btw, I know I'm town, and I think andres' posting has felt pretty honest, hence why I'm healing it.
So just seeing that these scumreads are both "wrong" worries me.
Like I look at Ydra's contributions for what they are and how early we are into the game and I get worried since this is what seems in line for scum!Ydra| here.GTKAS-
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Also something worth noting is I haven't actually read the game and given it my "full" attention yet, this is just glimpses of what I see when I occasionally do check in and decide to read up.
I don't think I can filter through most of what "happened" anyways cuz I don't think it was much of anything so an Ali that has given eir's attention to reading the game compared to current Ali wouldn't be that much?| here.GTKAS-
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Ok see, this sentiment I don't think would affect a town!ydra and I don't even think she would come out with the andre read if she was town. I feel like she's kind of similar to me in that it takes us both awhile to actually get reads and I don't see how she gets to this conclusion. I don't know how 180 is 100% andres trying to make himself look good when I look at this post and go "okay so these are probably just his feelings at this moment." Like, how are we getting this conclusion that its him trying to make himself look good.In post 360, Sha 77 wrote:
I thought the reads were a little too much for this stage of the game too, but this sentiment probably made her feel the need to out more thoughts than she normally would, regardless of her alignmentIn post 181, Infinity 324 wrote:
Yeah she just has to post!In post 179, Andresvmb wrote:my best bet at correctly guessing someone’s alignment is probably Ydrasse| here.GTKAS-
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these?In post 301, Ydrasse wrote:
it's more the fact that he's spelling out the debate process to me that i dislike, thinking that he's trying to make it seem like he's thinking about things when he could have just said "i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it"In post 299, Sha 77 wrote:
Why did that comment from andres look like it was hin trying to make himself look towny?In post 197, Ydrasse wrote:i don't like 180 from andres, how he pointed out what alisae was doing and he was like oh... i'll still townread it... like he's trying to make himself look good etc etc
I thought it was towny for him to debate about it in the post and then townread Ali for it anywayIn post 302, tris wrote:
the way he phrases things there seems fine to me. i feel like i say similar things some timesIn post 301, Ydrasse wrote:
it's more the fact that he's spelling out the debate process to me that i dislike, thinking that he's trying to make it seem like he's thinking about things when he could have just said "i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it"In post 299, Sha 77 wrote:
Why did that comment from andres look like it was hin trying to make himself look towny?In post 197, Ydrasse wrote:i don't like 180 from andres, how he pointed out what alisae was doing and he was like oh... i'll still townread it... like he's trying to make himself look good etc etc
I thought it was towny for him to debate about it in the post and then townread Ali for it anyway| here.GTKAS-
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I'm not sure what the difference is between ""i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it" and "I don’t know whether to TR this anti-Town behavior. I kind want to."
I'm also having trouble understanding why her response times matter here. Would they be slower if she was scum?| here.GTKAS-
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Scum!Ydra is pretty confident if she wants to play earlyIn post 368, Infinity 324 wrote:Ydrasse feels like she's expressing herself more confidently than I'd expect from scum!ydra
I don't see all the logic behind her reads but I don't feel like I need to? I don't really agree that town!ydra would take a while to get to reads and scum!ydra wouldn't. It probably depends on the game| here.GTKAS-
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her words not mineIn post 369, Infinity 324 wrote:
Huh? This first is a scumread and the second is a townread if anythingIn post 366, Alisae wrote:I'm not sure what the difference is between ""i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it" and "I don’t know whether to TR this anti-Town behavior. I kind want to."| here.GTKAS-
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Hectic/Sha do you think this has value?In post 368, Infinity 324 wrote:Ydrasse feels like she's expressing herself more confidently than I'd expect from scum!ydra| here.GTKAS-
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i mean i think ur first mistake is trying to explain gut reads because you can't really explain your gut or instincts beyond that and it also takes time for people to actually trust your gut/instincts.In post 373, Infinity 324 wrote:I see what you're saying, I'm mostly reading the way ydrasse is expressing herself rather than what she's expressing. It feels a lot like how I try to explain gut reads as town, which can be difficult to fake I think
but aside from that, sha/hectic do you think this is a good way to go about reading ydra?| here.GTKAS-
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ok so how do you actually explain what your gut tells you or what ur instinct tells you. While there is theory behind it, if you have to call it gut/instinct, then by nature it's going to be difficult for that person to explain because its based on their instincts/gut feelings. Another player might be able to tell you this is why and how and understand it, but some players do just rely on their gut/instinct and its harder to make those players explain it since they don't understand it, its just their instincts. If you instinctively have a feel for something, its harder to describe/teach it then it is if you understand how that something actually works/operates.| here.GTKAS-
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like instinct/gut is "my experience has told me that in this situation I should be doing this in response to this" where as if you understand why you're doing it, then it becomes "In this situation I should be doing this in response to this because..."| here.GTKAS-
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you should compare the scum games that you've seen me play with this game and maybe this normal: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86100 and some other games.In post 583, Infinity 324 wrote:Alisae has a really good scumgame and showed in one night stand that e also can be versatile. I'm not sure why e would take the angle e took this game as scum, but meh
This one is good: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=85840
this one I think can be good: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85985
this one is also good: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=84560
This one is very good cuz its also a micro (I'm on Mikan): viewtopic.php?f=83&t=85282
I wonder what happens if you try to familiarize yourself with what my town game actually looks like. I think there's a difference and I want to see if you spot it.| here.GTKAS-
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people to post.
I could be lazy and just put down my vote but I think its better to wait.
pedit: kinda? Infinity is interesting but interesting things are bound to happen. No reason to rush in and point a finger at someone right now, just let things develop| here.GTKAS-
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never mind I forgot this was posted lolIn post 561, Ydrasse wrote:i don't want cakez on a team for obvious reasons, and it was... a bit of a tossup for me personally between who to include for pooky/flea and i just think pooky has felt marginally better for me this game than flea i guess even though to me they're both shrugs| here.GTKAS-
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Cakez if you don't stop playing like garbage with comments like "this is hot garbage" "Andres' attacks on Infinity just seem so made up and scum motivated" I'm actually going to get really irritated because I can't tell if ur just town who wants to play badly and wants to beat their own drum or scum or scum.
None of your posts actually address the why.
- Why is this hot garbage
- Why does andres' attacks seem made up
- Why do you hate Sha's reaction in 135? Why was their opening tonally weird?
- Why do you think Sha is scum? Nothing in between the post where you called out 135 and 397 really explains it
- Why do you think that them trying to ferret their way into my read on them is scum indicative when it seems like from a general skim they're just asking you questions because you're so fucking obtuse? Is this not what they're doing?
- Everything in here is fucking garbage
Like actually what the fuck is going on hereIn post 421, SirCakez wrote:
I already talked about this but this post felt tonally off, too worried about perception of themselfIn post 135, Sha 77 wrote:My observations were exaggerated and memes lol, not serious at all
Maybe the only one that was serious is the Flea self-conscious observation
Immediately dives on me to try to get me to change my mindIn post 162, Sha 77 wrote:The tone was faked, Cakezy
What do you hate about that reaction? You think those observations were serious?
really hate this attempt to declare a townblockIn post 396, Sha 77 wrote:I like the Ydrasse/tris/Sha townbloc, and honestly, I think Ali's suspicions come from a place of good faith too
Immediately dives on me to try to get me to change my mind, again. I believe I'm the only one expressing suspicion of Sha too.In post 399, Sha 77 wrote:Why is what gross, Cakez? Why aren't I just town who's happy with a townbloc that has me and someone who's likely town in it?
I don't know I can't point to many specific posts on ISO. but I just don't like the tone of many posts. it feels a little too "un-serious" in a very intentional and manufactured way. as opposed to Pooky's whose silliness I buy more.
1. How does "I already talked about this but this post felt tonally off, too worried about perception of themself" and then "The tone was faked, Cakezy" not refute the concern here.
2. How the fuck is "What do you hate about that reaction? You think those observations were serious?" him trying to get you to change your mind. ITS A FUCKING QUESTION.
3. "really hate this attempt to declare a townblock" WHO FUCKING CARES. LITERALLY COMES FROM ANY ALIGNMENT
4. "Why is what gross, Cakez? Why aren't I just town who's happy with a townbloc that has me and someone who's likely town in it?" HOW THE FUCK IS THIS TRYING TO GET CAKEZ TO CAHNGE HIS MIND IT'S JUST ASKING HIM WHY THE FUCK HE'S DOING THAT BECAUSE CAKEZ WON'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING AND REFUSES TO BE TRANSPARENT. HE'S ASKING YOU WHY SO THAT ITS EASIER TO SORT WHAT ALIGNMENT IS MISREADING HIM. HOW IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN SOMEONE ASKS SOMEONE WHY, ITS NOT TO CHANGE THEIR FUCKING MIND, ITS TO FUCKING EXPLAIN THEMSELVES
- STILL NOTHING ON WHY ANDRES IS SCUMMY BTW
- AND NOTHING WHY ME PUMPING UP ANDRES IS SUS EITHER
I don't understand how any of the above actually happens btw.| here.GTKAS-
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Also how the fuck does someone look at "My observations were exaggerated and memes lol, not serious at all" and reach the conclusion that they're too worried about perception of themself. How does that actually happen.| here.GTKAS-
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This probably happens if you think that you'll catch scum by finding people who do "scummy" things and then define what is "scummy" by what you think scum will do/not do or what you can't (and refuse to try to) understand and not what they're actually doing.| here.GTKAS-
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I gave 6 towngames if ur reading them by isos stop you'll likely see something that you wouldn't see if u read isos. Try harder. Also that case on you in student council was mostly pre-writtenIn post 635, Infinity 324 wrote:Ali I thought I had a tell on you that would make you town here but then you made that cakez post :/| here.GTKAS-
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I hate you so muchIn post 636, SirCakez wrote:
I ALWAYS PLAY LIKE THISIn post 631, Alisae wrote:Cakez if you don't stop playing like garbage with comments like "this is hot garbage" "Andres' attacks on Infinity just seem so made up and scum motivated" I'm actually going to get really irritated because I can't tell if ur just town who wants to play badly and wants to beat their own drum or scum or scum.
nothing has changed!!!!!!| here.GTKAS-
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This is key btwIn post 650, Infinity 324 wrote:I actually don't see a ton of scum motivation in ali's play
if u can't see the scum motivation in my actions its likely because it just doesn't exist. There are still things about my town meta that I think are just impossible for me to fake.
pedit: It's importance is about as equal as getting a good read on me. If you have a read ur content with u don't have to ig.| here.GTKAS-
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