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Micro Games (9 players or fewer). Archived during the 2023 queue overhaul.
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Post #63 (isolation #0) » Thu May 06, 2021 8:17 am
Postby Hectic »
There's no need to be so secretive and obfuscate your identities, people. Last time the paragons were like 1/5 or 2/5 for guesses at BEST. So you might as well just be yourselves and we'll probably still get it wrong because we'll think that's someone else pretending to be Flea, right, surely it's not just Flea etc.
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Post #399 (isolation #10) » Fri May 07, 2021 1:46 pm
Postby Hectic »
In post 73, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:VOTE: Klaus Reevaluting identities... I think I'm better with a Klaus exe.
Strange, what had GeorgeBailey done that was scummy for him?
In post 85, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:i took fives identity into account but forgot about klausssssssss (xωx)
oki so klaus wouldnt be here regardless of alignment, five is more likely to play as scum FROM WHTA I CAN TEL...?
Nice distorted Morning impression
In post 105, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:how the fuck did you follow the 7pm instructions perfectly but dO AND say nothing both when they were given adn wwhen you arrived?
In post 179, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:Five is usually pretty high effort as scum. I've seen openwolfing, I've seen deepwolfing...
In post 183, Lila Pitts wrote:ehh i think i can outtown both of you and im pretty confident in this dynamic lets be safe VOTE: five
so nobody gets paranoia'd if five/allison are town
I GOTS APOCALYPSES TO START AND SHADOWREALMS TO BE AT! I DON'T GOTS ALL DAY
Damn, we're slacking
In post 244, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:Also, Hectic is exceptionally good at reading me so basically all you need to do is find the third townie.
In post 245, Lila Pitts wrote:hectic supposedly has a secret way of reading me that never fails so all you need to do is find the third townie :^)
grumble grumble grumble this doesn't help. It's a lot harder to read you two by meta when you're obfuscating
In post 247, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:Your confidence in your reasoning that all scum had to be inside or outside seems a tad.. overblown
In post 248, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:Here lemme read it really slowly so i actually understand it though cause im kinda slow myself
In post 249, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:No, as scum i dont think i wouldve wanted to pick because it'd generate info regardless of who my partner is. It's like 2/3 odds that my partner isn't chosen i think so I would take that rather than potentially help town out
If I'm getting it
townier sequence
Then we have a long fruitful conversation between Vanya and Lila. Vanya looks much townier from this
In post 336, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:I really can't fake being this scattered, i use other emotions as scum, usually a lot of self-depreciation and apologizing type stuff with varying results
as town i empty the contents of the temporary holding space inside my brain into the thread every 30 seconds. Even when it doesnt make sense and i havent even read it myself. Why? Because i cant do it as scum so i may as well demonstrate towniness the best way i can
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Post #400 (isolation #11) » Fri May 07, 2021 1:48 pm
Postby Hectic »
I'm thinking Klaus and 1 of Allison/Lila
Klaus in particular has made no effort to solve alignments post-hammer, he's talked about identities but not alignments, and that's pretty telling
Voting out Allison definitely would've been a lot more useful, because now there's basically no content to read them off of. Basically need to figure out if Lila is town
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Post #401 (isolation #12) » Fri May 07, 2021 1:52 pm
Postby Hectic »
In post 335, Lila Pitts wrote:i feel like your either super obvious town and someone with exp with you would be slapping me for not realizing it or you are just scum trolling me because like i dont know what you are even saying
In post 337, Lila Pitts wrote:u spent all this effort trying to disprove my theory to the point where i, a very stubborn individual, bent. but now when pressed to come up with something about ur actual reads ur like asdfasefdsfasdf
either u have completely townspewed yourself with this behavior, its definitely AI but i don't know you enough to know what alignment it is in which case its klaus and allison
or you have scumspewed yourself in which case i think id be sure its on you + klaus although my logic for why would be wrong with how you broke apart my argument, but you put a lot of forethought into it so /shrug it means something
This handling of Morning's thought spew feels a little awkward, like Oka's not sure whether to call it out as towny or just shrug about it
George was also claiming to scumread and voting bugspray so gun to head I go Klaus and Lila (again)
Oka, you played this game so differently and with so much more WIM, any reason?
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Post #409 (isolation #15) » Fri May 07, 2021 2:21 pm
Postby Hectic »
Idk, I don't really see it being George and bugspray and George hard busses launchbait bugspray. I think they probably just lose in that scenario. Makes sense there's a scum controller on the actives
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Post #424 (isolation #21) » Fri May 07, 2021 2:31 pm
Postby Hectic »
Koba, what do you think on Lila/Vanya? I think one of them has to be scum and it's not just launchbait Klaus/Allison bussing and lucking out on a win. I think Vanya kinda townspewed earlier
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Post #431 (isolation #22) » Fri May 07, 2021 2:42 pm
Postby Hectic »
My secret tell on you si that you're a lot more charismatic and seem to have a lot more fun when you're town
You're obvtown in stuff where you're making japes and messing around with impromptu poetry etc. But then when I saw you as scum in team mafia and that command and conquer game, you were still active but felt like you were having less fun
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Post #447 (isolation #28) » Fri May 07, 2021 2:58 pm
Postby Hectic »
Tbh my standard for your town game is through the roof after you subbed in as Taly in chiptune mafia and completely turned my PoV around to voting out scum!Alora
The poems there were off the charts, you just don't understand
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Post #524 (isolation #35) » Sat May 08, 2021 8:12 am
Postby Hectic »
How are you reading Vanya now, Lila? 510 is cool but a lot of that thoughtspew like the stuff on being fearful on identities and being tilted in other games are NAI things that I think can come from either alignment
@Allison/bugspray
, paragons can no longer win by guessing identities. The only way paragons and town win now is by guessing the two remaining scum players. If you're town, you need to show us that and help us figure out who scum is
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Post #543 (isolation #40) » Sat May 08, 2021 8:33 am
Postby Hectic »
In post 534, Lila Pitts wrote:post hammer only matters for people who are incapable of playing scum. post hammer everyone has the same wincondition. pre hammer matters the most for AI stuff. now if you think that some people literally cannot play scum then maybe post hammer matters more but i don't know anyone well here enough to make that call.
Scum still has to fake-solve post hammer while town can genuinely solve, no?
basically i knew that blitzing the lim would make it hard for the paragons to win and the likelihood of hitting scum in a setup like this on the first lim will less than EV because well, two scum. but its supposed to be counterbalanced by the fact that we can generate lots of info through analysis, and if we blitzed the lim with no strategy there wouldn't be anything to analyze. the baton pass gives us discernible info to analyze now, you have the piece of information of who made what decision, that's something to analyze instead of people just arbitrarily picking someone to lim. i don't know if that's too confusing to follow because i think on a superficial level, me picking five seems arbitrary. but there is a lot of meaning when i selected vanya who selected klaus who selected me to finally select five. that ordering matters a lot in my opinion. creating that info is absolutely essential. i don't think id go with a strategy like that as scum because im literally designing a mechanism to allow for the blitz strategy to prevent paragons from winning while preserving the benefits of info lims.
So what happened was Lila -> Vanya -> Klaus -> Lila
I get that this can generate info, and it's not the reason I think you're scum. You're scum from PoE more than anything else right now. Also, that line of decisions suggests a Klaus/Lila team if anything, unless you can draw some other info from it?
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Post #582 (isolation #43) » Sat May 08, 2021 8:56 am
Postby Hectic »
In post 566, Lila Pitts wrote:idk what to say hectic im town ive taken too many risks to be scum and done too many things that help the town win condition, and sure it indirectly helps the scum win condition too but there are better ways to lowkey help the scum win condition. i dont feel like i can win tho because you want to pick me + klaus/allison no matter what so the only thing im trying to do is townspew myself but if you disagree that my actions are protown and think my towntells dont apply this game like i really don't know lol its like a kafka novel
whatever okay bye for real
yes nancy i was allison last game
i literally self limmed last game and town lost and i felt like we partially lost because i self limmed, i actually had the right thread going (and solve) and could push on maruchan but i bought her stupid explanation of why she wasn't responding because it was too funny not too believe. i ended being ic and i felt like i was the best at townspewing and pooky seemed to agree which is why i didn't want to self lim this game because i thought i could just townspew again but apparently not i really don't know
I'm not that opposed to going Klaus + Allison instead. It feels convenient but sometimes the roll is just like that and maybe George distances knowing he has to gambit to win this
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Post #584 (isolation #44) » Sat May 08, 2021 8:57 am
Postby Hectic »
Lila Klaus is my best guess still but wouldn't suprised at all if wrong
But the longer Klaus doesn't care to post, the more likely Vanya/Klaus is a thing and it's because Klaus doesn't fear losing and doesn't want to tip the balance
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Post #607 (isolation #50) » Sat May 08, 2021 9:30 am
Postby Hectic »
Morning, I hope you're not finally breaking out of your scum meta in a silly micro game, are you? Surely you would've saved it for a grander setting, right?!
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Post #612 (isolation #52) » Sat May 08, 2021 9:38 am
Postby Hectic »
In post 105, Vanya Hargreeves wrote:how the fuck did you follow the 7pm instructions perfectly but dO AND say nothing both when they were given adn wwhen you arrived?
mm ya ok thx
VOTE: Klaus sorry i dont buy that
Vanya's last vote was Klaus so I can see why Klaus would pick Lila over Vanya, Nancy
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Post #625 (isolation #53) » Sat May 08, 2021 10:00 am
Postby Hectic »
Nah, I don't think Vanya/Lila is possible, interactions are too clean. Also, Lila wouldn't be putting in effort with the walls if their victory was all but assured anyway
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Post #762 (isolation #56) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:55 am
Postby Hectic »
Klaus went from Lila!scum to Lila!town post-hammer, can easily see that as distancing. He handed the elim to Lila. bugspray has bothered posting and opening themselves up to be read which is inherently town-motivated, Klaus has not and has posted just 1 alignment-indicative post since the hammer.
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Post #765 (isolation #58) » Sun May 09, 2021 7:58 am
Postby Hectic »
In post 762, Hectic wrote:Klaus went from Lila!scum to Lila!town post-hammer, can easily see that as distancing. He handed the elim to Lila. bugspray has bothered posting and opening themselves up to be read which is inherently town-motivated, Klaus has not and has posted just 1 alignment-indicative post since the hammer.
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Post #769 (isolation #60) » Sun May 09, 2021 8:02 am
Postby Hectic »
Klaus handed Lila to choose the elim. Klaus wouldn't choose Vanya because Vanya's last vote and suspicion was Klaus himself. Five and Allison were both wildcards. The fact Klaus chose Lila is actually associative, not anti imo