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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:25 am

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I think we're seeing clidd's situation much differently. If someone is so demotivated that they're barely playing I wouldn't get any pride from beating them as scum. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see it happen very often that a townie replaces out in a key spot when they've been manipulated into bad reads. Obviously it really sucks for scum when it happens. I really don't think it was an "ejector button" for strategic benefit though.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:38 am

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In post 935, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Like I'm not even fustrated that we "lost", I was just really really curious to see if that line of play would've won and I feel so unsatisfied not knowing the answer :<
I don't think I've ever really been upset with a replace out but I feel similarly. Particularly I feel bad for Pooky who I think was having a scummie level game and definitely had a real chance to win.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:16 am

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Pooky your charisma was so alluring
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:11 am

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I don't think the substitution set the course of the match, but the way in which the setup confirmations occurred (me + Dwlee conftown) made the game quite townsided.

For some reason I also felt my motivation drop drastically over the days, so /shrug.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:26 am

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Regarding the setup, I think scum needs a night kill, or maybe even just a single night kill, to have a better shot.

Re: the checks, it's a neat concept but once we had conftowned clidd it didn't make sense to pick different targets as we'd just risk doing the same. Maybe make the checks random while needing up the scum side to make things more interesting? I dunno, I'm still fairly new to this stuff.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:26 am

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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:34 am

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In post 930, Infinity 324 wrote:I understand why it's frustrating for you, but no one is obligated to play a game they're not enjoying and I'm giving clidd the benefit of the doubt that that's why he replaced out.
Yeah, pretty much this.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:36 am

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Hum, If anyone has any problems with my play/replacementt, feel free to send me a pm or avoid future games with me.

I don't see anything related to dishonor, bad faith or bad sportsmanship from my part here.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:50 am

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To be clear, I don't. I just think it's unfortunate
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:00 am

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Clidd, if I enjoy playing with you.

That's why I was disappointed to see you replace out.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:28 am

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In post 959, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Clidd, if I enjoy playing with you.

That's why I was disappointed to see you replace out.
Well, sorry, but I couldn't really keep my motivation to a good chemical level to stay in the game.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:29 am

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I know buddy.

I'm not really blaming you.

Just lamenting what could've been :<
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:39 am

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fwiw, clidd, i don't want to avoid future games with you because i genuinely do enjoy playing with you

i don't think the rep-out was a Good Thing (at least for the game), but maybe my own perception of it is skewed because, while i do believe in "you signed up for it, power through it", pretty much every game i personally play is an utter mess to me by lategame so maybe i'm used to "powering through it"

i hope you didn't take anything what i said personally, it wasn't meant as personal, it's a sorta site culture thing that i've been thinking about for a while now for which this was a spark to start the discussion
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:49 am

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It's fine, I get it now (and I won't take it personally).
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:49 am

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As a solution, I'll police myself better to prevent my mood from interfering with my commitment to future matches (and reserve the replacement option for more critical cases).
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:56 am

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And I like playing with you guys too, although I didn't express myself much about it.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:08 pm

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Also,

@Dwlee

Thanks for your persistence.

You played for two as I basically stopped playing after a few days, lol.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:11 pm

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Tbh, the Infinity miselim was like a punch in the stomach for me (since I was the one who pushed the elim).
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:23 pm

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Actually, looking back, the tvt between Datisi and Angel is something that I'd probably never see as tvt tbf, so yeah..

Maybe the window to manipulate me was bigger than I thought.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:24 pm

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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:29 pm

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In post 966, clidd wrote:Also,

@Dwlee

Thanks for your persistence.

You played for two as I basically stopped playing after a few days, lol.
I got mad WIM most of the time so no problem. Hope to see you around more.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:38 pm

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Idea: Keep the mechanic. Give scum a night kill. Randomly choose who will be the two people picked, but scum can pick one person each night that will NOT be checked. Not sure what the town:mafia ratio should be here but I think this setup gives scum more agency and would be more fun by giving town more info.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:53 pm

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You left me a very nice slot Clidd.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:58 pm

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In post 970, Dwlee99 wrote: I got mad WIM most of the time so no problem. Hope to see you around more.
Same. I wonder if scum!you has the same wim.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 972, Ythan wrote:You left me a very nice slot Clidd.
That doesn't normally happen (when I replace out), but luckily I had a mechanical reason to be a townread here without having to townspew much.
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