Micro 1024: Dead Silence II - Game Over!

[Jessica Rabbit]

and to be honest, i doubt scum knows how to play this setup. i agree at least one scum must have bussed t3, but even ignoring the fact that t3 couldnt shoot. if you dont bus scum here you pretty much win 90% as scum so yeah. now the thing is i know this so im not scum because ive been on t3 this entire time and why am i throwing the game by bussing t3 when i dont have to and can win for free off of mech.

But I think Enchant’s point makes sense. Why didn’t T3 shoot? He had nothing to lose.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Why T3 simple didn't shot someone.

I think that the easiest answer, is that T3 was not on from the time he was from e-1 to the time of the hammer

Checking his page, I don't see him posting anywhere else on site during that time

That’s also possible. However, I think he had to know he was next elim, so still weird though.

[Jessica Rabbit]

i aint bussing chief

Well, the 2 options are that the scum team is exactly [enchant +

jessica

, of there is at least 1 bus vote on the wagon.

Why do you think that that would be the hammer vote?

Obviously no. I tried to stop NM wagon.

[Jessica Rabbit]

That's pretty fair. Bussing is terrible play.

But i already saw bussing in terrible condition for that, so prepared to anything.


So... Bug is good, because there's no sense for him to hammer teammate before he shot someone.
OkaPoka is good, he found and tried to kill T3 from start.

Do mafia really put team on E-1 and ask to hammer? Can we clear Uncle then?

So mafia provably Mom or Luke. Possible both, or with

Jessica

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I might vote you if you keep being dumb here. Scum!me has no reason whatsoever to derail NM wagon.

[Jessica Rabbit]

but i dont feel like its exact enchant + jess

I think Oka’s probably town but I need a better reason to vote bugs then they sr you.

[Jessica Rabbit]

There's 100% mafia on T3 voters.

I didn't vote him, and here's only 5 townies alive. If T3 feel any danger, he would just shot someone on random, because nothing to lose. So i think, he was fine when mafia voted him and then town just jumped on him and hammered, without giving time to shot.

If you don't believe i am Town, well, Jessica, just realise, you didn't vote T3 either. If you are Town, you MUST be in worry, how the hell 5 people just voted mafia. There's simple not enough town to do that without all townies or mafia help.

What if the wagon was all town and this is the narrative scum is being forced to push, now that they missed their chance to bus T3 while panicking in the PT about not getting his shot off in time

Well I don’t think that’s possible unless Pooky deviated from that setup link he gave us. According to that there are three scum, so even if Enchant were one, at least one scum had to have bussed.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Official Vote Count

T3

(5): OkaPoka, Lukewarm, Momrangal, Uncle Shelby, Bugspray

Momrangal

(1): T3

Not Voting

(3): Enchant, Jessica Rabbit

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-08-07 18:00:00)


T3 has been eliminated

T3 was a

Mafia One-Shot Tryhard Complex Day Vig

Alignment:

You are aligned with the

Mafia

Abilities:

You have your voice and your vote!

Abilities:

You have a one-shot daykill you can use at any time by posting in your scum PT. If you are voted out by elimination, you will be unable to use this daykill - I will compare the timestamp.

This one-shot daykill will only succeed if it targets a Complex Role, if you target a Vanilla Townie, it will fail and you will die instead.

All daykills/eliminations will reset the votecount and the deadline(5 days).

In the event the deadline is reached, the mafia team will be asked to pick a player to die.

Win Condition

You win when you reach parity with the town.

Deadline has been Reset

With 7 alive it will take 4 votes to eliminate a player.

Nightless Setup

Dayvigs activated privately in Mafia Thread.

PTs are always open.


The "Tryhard" Modifier means the player will die if their action fails for any reason.

The "Complex" Modifier means the action will only work on a non-Vanilla role.

Three scum according to this, which means at least one scum had to have bussed. If Enchant is town, then two.

[Jessica Rabbit]

Like, look at the start of the day

Post 4, 5, and 6 are all "townslips" about the set from T3

Post 7 is a single vote from Oka, with no other words.

T3 immediately 180s and tries to walk back the mistakes.

If those are real slips, what makes him realize his mistake? Oka did not explain it. The setup info is not even in thread, so he did not scroll up and see it.

So did he see the vote from Oka with no context, and think "I know, I should go reread the setup back in the sign up thread?" instead of, I don't know, assuming it was an rvs vote?

No, I am pretty sure that was a faked slip, and he panicked at the vote

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Now there is the question, would town!t3 fake a townslip like that?

Frustratingly, yeah. He might. In my last game with him, he pretended to have a guilty result on me. We were both VTS.

In the game before that I was in with him, he faked a scum slip as town, and fumbled it so badly that he repped out like 2 hours into day 1.

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I think I want to vote him out either way.

Even if he is town, then he is actively throwing the games that he is in when he pulls stuff like this, and want to start voting him for it until he learns to stop doing it as town.

If he is scum, we kill scum.

In this game, townslips really aren’t possible. Pooky made very sure of that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Official Vote Count

OkaPoka

(2): bugspray, Enchant

bugspray

(1):OkaPoka

Uncle Shelby

(1):Momrangal

Enchant

(1): Uncle Shelby

Not Voting

(2): Jessica Rabbit, Lukewarm

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-08-08 14:00:00)

[Enchant]

I might vote you if you keep being dumb here. Scum!me has no reason whatsoever to derail NM wagon.

That's not achievement. Mafia know who is Town and can protect them with any reason. Even more, i saw mafia whiteknights more often than town.

[Jessica Rabbit]

I might vote you if you keep being dumb here. Scum!me has no reason whatsoever to derail NM wagon.

That's not achievement. Mafia know who is Town and can protect them with any reason. Even more, i saw mafia whiteknights more often than town.

Point being, I should not be the player you sus on the most because of that. No it’s obviously not a clear but it strongly points away from it being me and since I’m still suspicious of you and NM had you as a confident sr, Mom is pretty much the main reason I haven’t voted you because she’s rn my most confident tr.

[OkaPoka]

ehh jessica you didn't really derail the n_m wagon looking back on it

not that it could be derailed, but eh

[Lukewarm]

I am lost and confused.

None of the T3 votes make sense to me as bus votes

I don't understand why Bug would hammer T3 instead of ghosting the game to give him time to shoot
I don't understand why Shelby would put T3 at E-1 if T3 was not online and we are in a game with Enchant (who has already displayed his hammer happiness)
Mom is my most confident town read
I am town
That left Oka as the vote that made the most sense as the bus vote, because that came early enough that the scum team would not have control over the timing of the hammer -- But, then Oka's point about T3 being spooked by his page 1 vote also makes a lot of sense to me :/


Enchant's refusal to vote T3, after lolhammering Not_Mafia feels bad to me... but mom...

[Jessica Rabbit]

ehh jessica you didn't really derail the n_m wagon looking back on it

not that it could be derailed, but eh

Hi, why is anyone voting NM? He does this literally every game he’s in.

How is this not a derail? I clearly said this wasn’t a good vote.

[Jessica Rabbit]

ehh jessica you didn't really derail the n_m wagon looking back on it

not that it could be derailed, but eh

I’m not thrilled about this post Oka.

[Enchant]

Just in a case.

At that moment, NM had ONE vote.
And T3 had 3.

[Enchant]

Why you asking why there's someone put 1 vote on NM, but competly ignore T3 with 3 votes?

[Jessica Rabbit]

I am lost and confused.

None of the T3 votes make sense to me as bus votes

I don't understand why Bug would hammer T3 instead of ghosting the game to give him time to shoot
I don't understand why Shelby would put T3 at E-1 if T3 was not online and we are in a game with Enchant (who has already displayed his hammer happiness)
Mom is my most confident town read
I am town
That left Oka as the vote that made the most sense as the bus vote, because that came early enough that the scum team would not have control over the timing of the hammer -- But, then Oka's point about T3 being spooked by his page 1 vote also makes a lot of sense to me :/


Enchant's refusal to vote T3, after lolhammering Not_Mafia feels bad to me... but mom...

What about Mom?

But according to the setup link Pooky sent us, there are three scum and since I know I’m not one, it obviously points to at least one scum bussing, two if Enchant is also town.

So, scum did obviously bus.

[Jessica Rabbit]

What reason mafia!me have to not try to shot someone instead?

It resets time and votes, pretty enough to give T3 chance to shot.

Because of the complex tryhard modifiers, that wouldn’t clear you because scum dies if they shoot a vt.


T3 is really the only player who could afford to risk doing that.

[OkaPoka]

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

Ignore everything I said.

This was already my plan for the first 10 pages of the game at least

VOTE: Not_Mafia

only votes on not_mafia at the time, there was really nothing to be worried about unless you would know he'd accumulate more votes afterwards

[Jessica Rabbit]

I am lost and confused.

None of the T3 votes make sense to me as bus votes

I don't understand why Bug would hammer T3 instead of ghosting the game to give him time to shoot
I don't understand why Shelby would put T3 at E-1 if T3 was not online and we are in a game with Enchant (who has already displayed his hammer happiness)
Mom is my most confident town read
I am town
That left Oka as the vote that made the most sense as the bus vote, because that came early enough that the scum team would not have control over the timing of the hammer -- But, then Oka's point about T3 being spooked by his page 1 vote also makes a lot of sense to me :/


Enchant's refusal to vote T3, after lolhammering Not_Mafia feels bad to me... but mom...

You know what, that’s a really good point. Maybe Shelby and bugs are town then and Enchant and Oka are the remaining scum.

[OkaPoka]

bugs hammers t3 because they don't care and figure the cred is good enough? i mean why does any scum hammer their partner? its always for cred and your partner shooting well, they'd be outted scum at that point and any votes after are no longer worth anything.

if you want to think that i bussed t3 for cred d1, well, why doesn't t3 shoot d2 immediately then? an argument can be made he was the obv next lim already, and if t3 outs himself d2 and shoots, the people who get cred for his lim narrows down A LOT. therefore you can't really say that i bussed t3 for credit because i didn't play it optimally if it was for cred.

if you want to say that me and t3 were distancing, you'd have to concede t3 has become a really good scum player and was able to fake a subtle reaction to me voting him into him panicking. which would mean that between posts 6 and 8 he went from unable to accurately faking a reaction (townslip) to being able to fake a panic over his scum partner's vote. now look, i believe people can pick things up pretty quickly, but fuck me, at this rate t3 doesn't really need to play mafia and can go to hollywood because he's going to win an oscar in a month with this skill increase.

now if you want to say that i voted t3 for no reason at all and was going to end up saving t3 somehow, i don't even know. how am i going to save t3 when all ive done this game is vote t3 and refuse to do anything else.

[OkaPoka]

for example, start of d2 if im scum with t3 i just ask him to shoot someone. now i've played with t3 before, i think he's obv scum, t3 is a teamplayer, i can link evidence to all of this.

its a great play because if he flips red on a vt miss, well i now know who is vt and the only two people with any cred for t3 is limited to only me and luke and that's honestly enough to go to endgame with. nobody else.

if he hits a mason, that's great too. i can keep pushing t3, i might not, but town is probably confused over why the shot happened early.

the point im trying to make is if im scum with t3, because of my knowledge of t3's scum game, he'd have shot at the start of d2.

[bugspray]

shelby is scum
VOTE: shelby
i will reevaluate oka after shelby flip but if shelby flips red i don't think town has to actully do that much work

[bugspray]

Soley going by VCA, Shelby’s votes on both wagons don’t look great.

Uhhh, you shouldn't solely go by VCA, then :giggle: You missed the part where I put T3 on E-1 and then goaded Enchant to hammer

before T3 had a chance to shoot anyone

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implies already knew that t3

could

shoot