Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over

[Bingle]

pagetop

[Alisae]

Location: Bad Player Jail

[Hiraki]

more people should sheep me ty

[the worst]

join team hiraki now for a free win!

[Taly]

tipsyHiraki here - gonna avoid RVS all around baby

no smiley with glasses huh? bullshit man, bullshit

If everyone avoids RVS we'd never get past RVS therefore avoiding RVS is anti-town, by the principles of Kantian universality.

Also keeping up the fiction that RVS is useful is what makes society work, like believing money and Pokemon cards have value.

VOTE: Hiraki for disrespecting Immanuel Kant and Pikachu

Trust me, the RVS comment is the least interesting aspect of

Hiraki's

slot right now.

it would disrupt our friendship dynamic

True lmao

But let's work together on this. Do you feel threatened by my vote on you? Instead of entertaining a solid question, I feel like you gave a cheeky response and have thus let someone else take a jab at me. If you really believed I were mafia, why shroud it with doubt and "maybe's"? It does not read as sincere. Is this an unfair assessment?

Location: Bad Player Jail

Don't you believe in

Hiraki's

cause

Ali

? You do seem to be familiar with them!

more people should sheep me ty

I'll help! Vote me guys!

[Hiraki]

Don't you believe in Hiraki's cause Ali? You do seem to be familiar with them!

this isn't even a funny joke

[Taly]

Don't you believe in Hiraki's cause Ali? You do seem to be familiar with them!

this isn't even a funny joke

I wasn't joking. I like playing with

Alisae

and prodded for their input.

[the worst]

@Taly I'm not really sure there's a way I can deepen our convo in a way that would help me sort u rn.

[Bingle]

join team hiraki now for a free win!

Do you have independent reasoning to scumread Tucan Sam or are you just sheeting hiraki? The signals are blurry and mixed.

[Bingle]

Location: Bad Player Jail

Mom, Ali is bullying me. Make em stop.

[Bingle]

I'm reading both worst/Taly and Taly/Wis as not S/S. I think Hiraki and Taly are individually towny, although not strongly.

It occurs to me that I forgot to ask STD which method he's using to make deadlines a thing in this game, and I should probably do so.

[Taly]

@Taly I'm not really sure there's a way I can deepen our convo in a way that would help me sort u rn.

Fine, I'll take this at face value.

UNVOTE:

Hate to disappoint ya,

Bingle

, but I want to see where this goes.

VOTE: Hiraki



Were you waiting for me to do this,

Hiraki

?

[Hiraki]

don't really care what scum does tbh

[the worst]

I'm reading both worst/Taly and Taly/Wis as not S/S. I think Hiraki and Taly are individually towny, although not strongly.

It occurs to me that I forgot to ask STD which method he's using to make deadlines a thing in this game, and I should probably do so.

my more earnest read is 0-1 in taly/hiraki

i do think taly is doing his thing where he thinks things he's saying look more towny + helpful than they are and while it's not suuuper scum indicative for him it's also not town indicative!! where's your weak townread coming from?

[Hiraki]

But let's work together on this. Do you feel threatened by my vote on you? Instead of entertaining a solid question, I feel like you gave a cheeky response and have thus let someone else take a jab at me. If you really believed I were mafia, why shroud it with doubt and "maybe's"? It does not read as sincere. Is this an unfair assessment?

just to put this in perspective to everyone else - let's take this post in by stride

But let's work together on this.

ok

Do you feel threatened by my vote on you?

what part of this persists of 'working together' furthermore if he's town, why should he care about your vote? isn't his objective to eliminate scum? not to make sure that he doesn't get voted out? this pings me the most because it shows that taly potentially has an incorrect way of thinking OR is thinking correctly but in the wrong role

Instead of entertaining a solid question, I feel like you gave a cheeky response and have thus let someone else take a jab at me. If you really believed I were mafia, why shroud it with doubt and "maybe's"? It does not read as sincere. Is this an unfair assessment?

it's page 3

post edit - theworst let's fucking NAIL this game baby

[the worst]

<3

[Bingle]

where's your weak townread coming from?

I had a very weak thought of

Mom

-8ball but everybody in the thread posted between my vote on her and my post a few moments ago. Nobody seemed to want the wagon.

If you think

Wisdom

is scum, why not join

Imaginality

?

I think this thought process is town because he's looking for scum based on what resembles trying to get an 8 ball elimination and I think that's a town thought to have. I don't think it's right, necessarily, but it is the kind of thought I think is slightly more likely to come from town.

[the worst]

i think that post is kinda too peacocky for me to townread it. i was joking about scum!wisdom vs. town!momrangal because wisdom put the vote down then went v/la. that's, like, an extremely one-dimensional thought about wisdom, who is super experienced, and a vote which is realistically pretty hard to parse for AI information 25 posts into the game.

taly's response to this posits that he agrees with the one-dimensional read and then asks why i'm not sheeping imaginality (who is voting wisdom for a separate meme reason). i think that's a post which taly /expects/ to look good. but the fact is he's focused on optical things like looking like he's checking slots' motivations against each other -- while overlooking things like me not voting wisdom, and the fact that my whole take on wisdom/momrangal was pretty goofy -- makes me feel like he isn't actually trying to see inside my mind.

[Alisae]

Were you waiting for me to do this, Hiraki?

[Alisae]

VOTE: Taly

[Wisdom]

I think ill stay on momrangal

because shes the 8ball

because she and ali have done nothing to make me think town
Maybe Imaginality in that pool too
Not interested in current wagons

[Wisdom]

Actually VOTE: ali

[Wisdom]

I think I'm never the 8ball here, everyone but Imaginality knows me and doubt they think I'm limmable

Taly has decent chances of being it

[Bingle]

Wisdom's 72 is the same thing I'm reading as town from Taly, not the Wisdom scumread.

Taly is looking for the eightball and concluding that Mom isn't it based on the lack of people biting at the wagon, which seems like a thing town is more likely to think about compared to scum. I expect scum to be more worried about what voting for an eightball would look and thus reluctant to vote the eight ball. Extrapolating from that, the thought of "X is likely not the 8 ball because they're not being pushed when there's a modicum of interest" isn't one I think is as likely from scum who would I think will be more self conscious about what pushing the eightball looks like.

I'm not sure how likely scum actually is to be pushing the eightball directly, but the thought that someone is specifically not the eightball based on no one pushing them seems like a slightly town thought process.

I'll consider the peacocking angle though.

[imaginality]

I'm not sure how likely scum actually is to be pushing the eightball directly, but the thought that someone is specifically not the eightball based on no one pushing them seems like a slightly town thought process.

I disagree, I think it's NAI. It's indicative of a more surface level attitude rather than a wifomy mindset. I don't see why it's more likely to come from town than scum though.

If anything slightly suspicious just because expecting scum to pile on to the 8-ball wagon straight away is a bit implausible, so it seems like a weak reason to conclude Mom isn't the 8-ball. To that extent it doesn't feel like a super genuine line of reasoning. Though it is still early game so could just be that transition from RVS to sketchy-reasoning-VS.