Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over

[Hiraki]

ego

[Hiraki]

tipsyHiraki here - gonna avoid RVS all around baby

no smiley with glasses huh? bullshit man, bullshit

[Hiraki]

VOTE: Taly

[Hiraki]

more people should sheep me ty

[Hiraki]

Don't you believe in Hiraki's cause Ali? You do seem to be familiar with them!

this isn't even a funny joke

[Hiraki]

don't really care what scum does tbh

[Hiraki]

But let's work together on this. Do you feel threatened by my vote on you? Instead of entertaining a solid question, I feel like you gave a cheeky response and have thus let someone else take a jab at me. If you really believed I were mafia, why shroud it with doubt and "maybe's"? It does not read as sincere. Is this an unfair assessment?

just to put this in perspective to everyone else - let's take this post in by stride

But let's work together on this.

ok

Do you feel threatened by my vote on you?

what part of this persists of 'working together' furthermore if he's town, why should he care about your vote? isn't his objective to eliminate scum? not to make sure that he doesn't get voted out? this pings me the most because it shows that taly potentially has an incorrect way of thinking OR is thinking correctly but in the wrong role

Instead of entertaining a solid question, I feel like you gave a cheeky response and have thus let someone else take a jab at me. If you really believed I were mafia, why shroud it with doubt and "maybe's"? It does not read as sincere. Is this an unfair assessment?

it's page 3

post edit - theworst let's fucking NAIL this game baby

[Hiraki]

actually 64 is just to convince other people, 29 is the start when you said "who said we're in RVS" as if it was

1) supposed to propel the game in anyway
2) supposed to give any substance to the game
3) be anything less than an annoying little hehe

but i knew that it wouldn't convince people nor be the last time you did something of that nature - if it was, i would've unvoted you

[Hiraki]

just to put this in perspective to everyone else

i even started the post with this - which you decided to ignore because you got rid of it from your post?

[Hiraki]

like if your entire point is that i never explained why i was voting you in the first place - that's correct, i did not do that

[Hiraki]

It was true to me when I made that post since I wanted to engage into this game seriously. And even though that comment had humor to it, who are you to judge that the comment was useless?

because it literally is

Plus, even if my comment were genuinely void of substance on the butt-ass beginning of page 2 and did not serve any purpose for the game - why does that make me scum?

it doesn't

Your language towards me in @point 3 is rather aggressive. It feels forced.

lol

I guess you're waiting for a time when I have more suspicion on me and it's plausible to eliminate me - is when you will state your scumread.

i never need to state my scumread to you unless i think i'm misunderstanding something

[Hiraki]

I'm not really following the above but it seems like you're saying something smart but it's just not clicking for me. Can you go a little more bite-sized?

[Hiraki]

I think it’s saying that if we flip Taly we’ll know whether Taly is the eight ball and scumWisdom tried to fake uninformed about something townWisdom would actually know.

I get the beginning - the ending is where I'm thrown off. Why is this a town v/s scumWisdom information thing?

[Hiraki]

@hiraki for the next post.

huh

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: Alisae

[Hiraki]

But like, it reads like a potential slip to me too. Djdoxjsklsjshs

I'm not above peking toucan.

OKAY BUT CAN YOU MAKE A CHOICE I CAN VOTE EITHER

[Hiraki]

i don't see wisdom flipping scum here, still don't really have a good read on imaginality, still think ali & taly will flip red

zzz

[Hiraki]

no - do you need me to go into it?

[Hiraki]

Sure

i got major aliscum pings from your conversation - this for instance -

Like ya you could be town right on scum
or you can be scum trying to bully me into helping you complete your objective

how is going about this in this manor going to get me to help you?

You want to READ me?
Leave me the fuck alone and do what I do best, which is trying to read the actions of the other players in the table.

1) i don't understand what 'helping' means here with in conjunction with 2...
2) as you say in the next post, you want ali lim'd most
3) it is much easier (and has been done much better in other games) that ali would have just ignored votes on his wagon. i don't know if that's explicitly an aliscumtell but it is not an alitowntell

i also felt the taly vote was more of a pocket attempt than anything considering that it wasn't really for good reasoning other than going along with my own reasoning. then the drop off wasn't really given a lot of reasoning - not that i cared for it either

[Hiraki]

It's not much. If I want to not die, I have to throw a bone and provide something. If I continue to do nothing I just die.

this thought was much before the deadline

[Hiraki]

that's not point - it's not that you haven't done anything - you have. it's that your actions have clearly been to just stand in the background rather than call out anyone to do anything. i think you calling "this is how i play" is a fake excuse this game tbh

[Hiraki]

Yes Hiraki, that's what I've had the most success with.

no - that explicitly contradicts what you've said and done this game, you even say here

i know find that the playstyle I have the most success with is to let everyone do whatever it is they want to do, watch their actions, and find scum based on what I think scum would be doing in the gamestate and who is performing those actions.

i'm good with 1 & 2 here. i actually think you do this. i think 3 is something that you haven't done but you're trying to make everyone believe that you have done it. you're voting wisdom for...

If I was actually scum Wis would be pushing me harder for being obvscum or I pocket Wis. It can't be that hard, I've done it before. Usually when I'm scum I have some kind of agenda. Part of this is why I lean Wisdom > Imaginality right now, I feel like Wis probably shouldn't be reading me as scum, and I feel like I was talking to a scum!RadiantCowbells when the guy was trying to talk me into voting Imaginality. Also, I can't figure out who Imaginality would even be teamed with. Wis + Bingle team makes sense.

??????????

if i go further back, it's just subtle hints of shade. it's not scumhunting

[Hiraki]

if I flip town will you be wary of Wis and Bingle?
I think they're teamed

not bingle but potentially more of wisdom

[Hiraki]

why?

[Hiraki]

glad it wasn't just me

[Hiraki]

I also disagree with the point that Wisdom was much or anything like a hypothetical 8ball push in nature. Unless you believe the team is literally Alisae/I, which does not align with what I think scum would even look like in this setup.

well

Vote: Alisae

[Hiraki]

bingle baby you're gonna have to give me something for TW - im really feeling good about my reads and nothing has made me rethink them yet

[Hiraki]

Hiraki ur reads are really shit this game

ty for the vote of confidence

[Hiraki]

Y’all are fucking idiots and bad at mafia don’t play
No one should even have a reason to townread wisdom but people like him more than me for I don’t even know why

Gg town loss

dont play with me anymore after this

[Hiraki]

shouldn't be an issue since i'm 'washed up'

[Hiraki]

i voted for quick night

[Hiraki]

why assume I'm not lying? I don't see how this does anything tbh

[Hiraki]

okay but in what situation does someone - town or scum - say "i did not vote for fast night"? honesty points?

i think that was my point overall. seems like a question where you can now choose the correct answers more than anything??

[Hiraki]

i actually got pretty annoyed at that statement so please don't bring it up that way

[Hiraki]

jesus