Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over

[House]

Also, you didn't answer my direct question about your read of Wisdom. I want to hear.

Didn’t I? It hasn’t changed recently. He’s a weak townlean and I think he had significant D1 eightball equity.

Now I *really* want that flip.

[Bingle]

House why do you think duck is town?

You'll hate the answer.

I’m a big boy, rip off the band aid.

[Taly]

Mom, Alisae, and Taly are all easier to d1 than Wisdom.

I like to think I've become more difficult to eliminate as the years go by.

Not suggesting you're LHF, by any means~

[quote="In post 516, "Morning Tweet"]
pockieted[/quote]

[Bingle]

No, Taly. Get back in my pocket. Remember the kittens.

[the worst]

why doesn't anyone want me in their pocket?

[Bingle]

Also, you didn't answer my direct question about your read of Wisdom. I want to hear.

Didn’t I? It hasn’t changed recently. He’s a weak townlean and I think he had significant D1 eightball equity.

Now I *really* want that flip.

Why? We’re not going to find out the D1 8ball until endgame.

[Bingle]

why doesn't anyone want me in their pocket?

Because you’re scum and also you just want to eat the bread in there.

[Taly]

No, Taly. Get back in my pocket. Remember the kittens.

Fuck this is hard, man.

why doesn't anyone want me in their pocket?

'Cause you're in my pocket.

[Taly]

Lmao this

the worst V Bingle

is so comical, it was not a 1v1 I would have foreseen to start off D2. I'll leave my commentary at that for tonight.

(Hint: I'm implying a read here.)

[House]

House why do you think duck is town?

You'll hate the answer.

I’m a big boy, rip off the band aid.

ducky is adorable. I love his play and am hesitant to scumread them because I lack any experience played with scum!duck to compare it to.

When it comes to players such as these, I generally follow WotC.

[Bingle]

Couldn’t just give me a scumflip, could you?

VOTE: ali

I don’t really trust this sudden shift to Wis, makes me worried he’s an 8 ball, tbh.

VOTE: The Worst

The fuck happened, here?

3 entirely unrelated posts?

I expected Ali to have been hammered by Taly and was vaguely hoping the null read would flip scum, then responded when the mod made a contrary call.

I thought the butt ass last minute wisdom push was odd/noteworthy.

I read the worsts iso and decided the massive amounts of confusion he’s generating are intentional and thus likely enemy action.

[House]

Couldn’t just give me a scumflip, could you?

VOTE: ali

I don’t really trust this sudden shift to Wis, makes me worried he’s an 8 ball, tbh.

VOTE: The Worst

The fuck happened, here?

3 entirely unrelated posts?

I expected Ali to have been hammered by Taly and was vaguely hoping the null read would flip scum, then responded when the mod made a contrary call.

I thought the butt ass last minute wisdom push was odd/noteworthy.

I read the worsts iso and decided the massive amounts of confusion he’s generating are intentional and thus likely enemy action.

You call them unrelated, then show the relation (2 posts pushing my slot with a murderous gleam in your eyes, and a sudden flip out of nowhere)

And I thought I was the one that struggles with inference.

[Taly]

Actually, I'll be more upfront since my tonal range this game is expanding.

the worst

is a player I have a hard time distinguishing their alignment because in almost every game we have played, we were T/S and was fooled by the other AND promptly NKed the other. The only T/T game was when we deathtunneled and then I flaked that game.

I can't presume to know

the worst's

brain, but I am weary of how vague they are playing this game. It's almost too fuzzy of thinking for them, and I feel like minus the

imaginality/Wisdom

interactions, they have suspected other players around moments that they have been pressured by them. I wonder if it's a deflection.

But I also wonder why

Bingle

feels compelled to defend

Wisdom

. It parallels my defense and dynamic of

Alisae

, but I doubt

Bingle/Wisdom

are as familiar with each other as I am with

Alisae/I

. It smells of a T/S dynamic from them, but since a S/S

House-Aliaae/the worst

is an ungodly duo to imagine (and unlikely), I don't think their mindmeld is suspect

I understand how fence sitty this is and I kind of don't care because I want to press

Wisdom

, we got 6 days.

With that, I'm heading off for the night.

[Morning Tweet]

What u think about me Taly

[Morning Tweet]

Lmao this

the worst V Bingle

is so comical, it was not a 1v1 I would have foreseen to start off D2. I'll leave my commentary at that for tonight.

(Hint: I'm implying a read here.)

this is prolly town btw

btw btw this isn't my actual catchup im just on a break

[House]

Lmao this

the worst V Bingle

is so comical, it was not a 1v1 I would have foreseen to start off D2. I'll leave my commentary at that for tonight.

(Hint: I'm implying a read here.)

this is prolly town btw

btw btw this isn't my actual catchup im just on a break

If you could like, hard townread me so that I have another defender when Taly becomes puppy chow to make way for my mislim just to give them another obstacle, I'd appreciate it.

[Morning Tweet]

hard townread granted

[House]

BOOYA!

Take that, scumbutts!

[Taly]

What u think about me Taly

The willingness to cooperate and align with other players while also still trying to take time to read through the game to develop reads is a good start imo.

Usually I'm not this loose lipped with townreads of any degree but the likelihood of an NK is much reduced in this setup.

[the worst]

why doesn't anyone want me in their pocket?

Because you’re scum and also you just want to eat the bread in there.

correct on exactly one count, but i won't say which one.
(it's the bread)

[Morning Tweet]

suppose i meant more about my slot as a whole

but i like what i see (^ω^ )

I skimmed random bits of the past few pages idly but i havent actually read-read yet

my predictiiiion is that Hiraki and Ali (Was it those two? At least Ali) got into a toxic TvT fight or something, and ali being town means e was a mislim

and like idk if Bingle defends Wisdom because "He's probably 8-ball" when that's unreasonable given D1 (I know at least Ali was obvious D1 lim) -- then maybe that makes worstie town and easy game bingle/wisdom. i dunno yet but just off the bat id guess that

Also i was kind of guessing town!House/ali anyway

thats why i was asking if its reasonable for one to think Wisdom may be the 8 ball

[Morning Tweet]

@page 22 - I've seen both Mom and Ali get limmed D1

Not saying they're easy but it's practical. I wish I had experience with Wisdom to get the whole context here! This playerlist is scary as fuck now that u point it out

Question to any: Is there any plausible reason that Wisdom may be the 8-Ball

Asking this for multiple reasons

Yes. Ali/Wis/Imagine we’re the EOD pushes. Taly brought that up already D2.

I see, true. Although one of the players voting him was Ali, the player with 4 votes who you'd assume is the most likely

Also, why was Ali not killed D1 exactly?

[Morning Tweet]

I’ve never eaten bat. They seem like a poor culinary choice, tbh.

:( i dont taste good

highest probability 8-balls fmpov are probably imaginality (doubly so if imaginality is scum), maybe momrangal. i'm weakly paranoid that i'm a decent 8-ball target here, but i'm not sure if that's compelling. it is possible to eliminate me, but i'm really cute, so it's kind of annoying.

Highest probability 8 balls are people under no suspicion D1 and person no one is pushing D2. Also I own the Golden Gate Bridge and would like to sell it to you.

Okay, I see now. This is a bit less cut and dry. Wisdom did have second most votes, so it is plausible for Bingle to think he's 8-Ball at the very least on a surface lvl

No elims are bad
Scum now have the info to change the 8ball into someone likely getting limd whereas it was a blind guess in pregame
Let's just flip Ali

Please tell me you're not still voting my slot on d2 after making this post on d1...
*goes to check*

VOTE: Wisdom

Lol

For the record, if I were scum, I always place the 8-ball on the obvious target. In my mind, that's like a 50/50. Town either goes for the obvious lim and thinks "No way scum picks the obvious target", or they go somewhere random. Closer to 1/2 odds rather than 1/7 or however many other targets there are, no? I guess context is important but i would never place the 8-ball on someone who like requires future seeing

Now, to be fair to Wisdom, if you think someone is scum, them being the 8-ball doesn't really matter. Although unsure if I'm sold on Ali/House

this is stupid I'm going to read from the start

[House]

this is stupid I'm going to read from the start

Read all you want.

Meanwhile, I'll be over here in the corner, channeling my towny vibes at you.

[Morning Tweet]

page 5 probably less likely mom with wisdom

Also i think my only commentary up til then is that taly comes off as towny there too

pedit: ty House much appreciated

undecided on the imaginality push on Wisdom -- i dont believe in scumslips although i can believe that imaginality finds Wisdom's confidence in Taly!town too high

ali is being prickly and difficult rather than towny -- ali has been towny as scum for me in the past TBH

Taly probably just has to not say anything about Ali and ali gets limmed D1 it looks like sooo

I'm not seeing what Wisdom is seeing about imaginality's push on him being scummy (page 10, he said it twice now). Maybe it's a little hyper-focused and tunnely, but I'm not sure what the obvious scum motivation is for that, reads a bit more like town that starts to conf bias no? "Manipulative" is strong

i've missed wisdom but like, he's scary as scum and i don't see the imaginality stuff at all

Exactly

Is it impossible imagine is scum, no, but does their push on Wisdom ring as actively more scummy, not really