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Post #16 (isolation #2) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:17 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
Those with a keen eye may have noticed that this is the setup where there are 2 T-T pairs and two T-S pairs, and not the setup with 3 T-T pairs and 1 S-S pair
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Post #18 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:22 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
Mech talk:
In this setup it is established that it is pro-town to reveal lover pairs immediately. This is because mafia already know 2 of the 4 pairs, and the last 2 can either be inferred or don't really matter to them.
In this run perhaps even more so, because things are entangled in weird ways.
In post 73, CheekyTeeky wrote:NM and MAzu are scum.
MAzu and NM are scum.
Taly and Amy are scum.
Amy and Taly are scum.
Jingle is the best mod.
The best mods have a Jingle.
NO, I am not scum and based on my individual PTs, I don’t believe Taly and Meg are either. I have absolutely no read on Queen yet. The one thing you actually got right was about Jingle being the best mod and that’s probably the only thing. Whatever you are in this game, you should be a lot more careful about trying to push miselims, unless you’re actually scum and in that case, have at it.
For what, all 3 games? You got all that from your pts?
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Post #93 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:14 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
Trying to sort for 3 different games at the same time with no flips is challenging. With no pressure on anyone, it's not possible.
I'm fine with eliminating SLTheViper, who did confirm in the pt but never posted in thread.
I'm also fine with eliminating Amy Dunne because I think their defense based on little is suspicious.
If Amy is scum, she could be partnered with Taly or Meg, or with Taly or Meg's partners in one of the pairings. That's a lot of possibilities for being paired with someone she is defending here.
Also, I disagree with the last line of 81. What is a miselim here? This first elimination results in six alignments being revealed, there is a good chance that at least one of those is mafia.
Each setup has 2 town-town pairs, and 2 town-mafia pairs. That means that mafia exists in 50% of pairs in each game. The chance of us eliminating somebody and having everybody flip town is 12.5%.
Oh, it’s you, so what’s your read on all your lovers?
Well since nothing has happened yet, there's no way for me to know the alignment of my pairs in all 3 of their games. As I said, SLTheViper posted to confirm then never again. Trying to tr people here is sort of nonsensical
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Post #96 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:19 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 82, Amy Dunne wrote:Me and Taly think it’s unlikely that anyone rolled triple scum, so my working theory is that the scumiest players are some combo of T - M - M.
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Post #99 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:29 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
You are trying to use tone to read and be read, and I think that with no pressure and flips, there is no way that kind of thing will work in this setup. Most people are going to be a mix of town and mafia in their games
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Post #214 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:54 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 213, Amy Dunne wrote:but since we know Cheeky is scum in game C, shouldn’t we be trying to find her buddy?
What do you think I'm doing?
Taly, Cheeky, and Radical Rat were the 3 that were not on the vote. Radical Rat was scum in game A, Cheeky was scum in Game C. That makes Taly more likely to be mafia in games A and C, while being neutral in game B.
And then you look at their iso, are they particularly town? No, they aren't.
In post 218, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why not solve Game A? I think Amy since they went straight to game C.
VOTE: Cheeky
Good point.
I voted Rat and you were reluctant to vote him.
Cheeky was scum in game C. That is sufficient motivation to be reluctant to vote Radical Rat, it does not further point towards her being scum in group A.
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Post #246 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:39 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 244, Amy Dunne wrote:Whatever she is in games A and B, it’s clear she cares principally about saving her buddy in game C and isn’t interested in solving.
We should be voting her buddy instead of Cheeky right now
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Post #256 (isolation #34) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:56 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
Game A:
Taly
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Queen
Game B: Taly |
Amy Dunne
Game C:
Taly
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Dunnstral
I am town in C. Cheeky agrees it is Amy in B, and thinks it 'could be' taly in A.
So, her motivations only line up a certain way here. If Cheeky were town in both A and B with Taly as town in C, She should be happy to vote Taly in groups A and B, while getting to miselim in group C.
Assuming this isn't wifom, of course. Still, the simplest explanation is that Taly is mafia in group C, and Cheeky is arguing around that.
In post 251, CheekyTeeky wrote:So two birds 1 stone if we go Amy it flips Taly game 1 and Amy will flip game 2.
Okay Dunn is right, you’re not arguing anything in good faith right now. I think it’s beyond obvious I’m not scum in either games A or B and I know I’m not your buddy.
My vote stays.
There is no reason to think that you are not scum in game B.
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Post #278 (isolation #38) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:29 pm
Postby Dunnstral »
If you vote for Not_Mafia instead of Meg, the same thing happens except Meg is left alive in game A. It means there are less flips at once in case we need to reevaluate.
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Post #434 (isolation #46) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:32 am
Postby Dunnstral »
In post 431, MegAzumarill wrote:I'm ready to here some cases here.
I haven't really been focusing this game because I was busy with B/C.
I voted redtea up to 3 votes, which would be a strange move if I were scum in group a.
Unfortunately, Cheeky was scum in group c and so had a reason to not vote, so it is unclear if they are scum or if they are town in group A. There is not much else to go off of.
