Micro 1043: League of Legends UPick - Game Over!

[.Lulu.]

Awwwwh!! You're all fighting already?! And bullying the puppy too!?

Hey Pix! Help Warwick!

Now we can all sit and play games without hurting each other!!

[.Lulu.]

You better watch out!! Pix can do things too!! AAAND the Fae are tricky to play with!!

[.Lulu.]

Caitlyn have you been spending too much time with VI??
Even Pix thinks you're kinda weird!! Right pix!!

[.Lulu.]

the bigger difference to me is that caitlyn came second, and the attack looked opportunistic. of course i will respond differently when the situation is different, and it is silly to pretend the situations aren't different. you shouldn't twist things like that. caitlyn = not a friend.

Giggles excessively

[.Lulu.]

OOOOOO thats too teeny!!

Will make that bigger, next time!!

[.Lulu.]

what if i did something sick and twisted? right now? would everyone be mad at me?

You should do it!!

[.Lulu.]

By my will, this shall be finished.

Since this game is primarily based on mech, I will freely speculate, in order to get some more discussion flowing.

Elise

has used all her mana, which suggests transforming into

Spider Form

is her ultimate. However, it didn't do any immediate damage or make any apparent changes, so I would suspect that Spider Form has some additional utility/strength that Elise is hoping to roll over into Day 2. Another possibility is that it was used purely defensively, and that something will happen when Elise is attacked.

Now, since I'm a nice Tank, I am going to

Attack: Elise

purely as an experiment

to see how things will affect her in Spider form; I should hope that nothing too dramatic happens to me or her, but I would rather get this out of the way while we are all healthy than be stuck in the endgame not knowing what's up with Spider Form.

To comment on others abilities and activity: If

Amumu

knew

that attacking Caitlyn would give her a debuff, then the attack looks a little susp. to me, because Caitlyn is already squishy and this could even be seen as an outward act of aggression.

Ashe

on the other hand

binded

Warwick

, but 4 hours seems like such a small window, especially given the speed the game is moving right now. So, I would wager that binding is a strictly defensive ability and I would even go as far to say that that makes me lean-town on Ashe. I know it is early, but again, this game is heavily mech-focused and I feel confident making calls like that.

Lastly, if we wager that everyone's "ultimate" is very impactful, then it seems like it will be forced out at some point in time, whether to secure a "lim" or prevent a valuable town "lim."

Therefore I would suggest that moving forward, it is only sensible (and arguably Pro-Town move) to announce before using an Ultimate with intention and purpose.

.... shiiiiiiiiiinnnnnyyyyyyy.......

OOO I MAKE PEOPLE BIGGER!! I'm a good support and a mean mid laner!!

[.Lulu.]

I need to talk to pix!!
I need to see what fae thinks of your shenanigans Jarvan!!
Cause telling people to declate ultimates is a kinda town thing, but you did mention the additional damage until after!!

[.Lulu.]

Jarvan's takes on the abilities isn't that helpful as just the abilities for themselves are nai. In fact the only ability that caught my interest so far is Lulu casting faer heal/strengthening spell on Warwick, which strikes me as an unusual opening unless it was just on a whim.

I don't think there is ill intent behind Jarvan using his attack with bonus damage on Elise. His curiosity in the mechanics strikes me as genuine and it's not like his attack put Elise in a damning position.

I am very whim-sical!!

[.Lulu.]

I can't heal someone though.. that makes me a little sad..

it does give a shield though!!

[.Lulu.]

Pix thinks it's weird!!
And so do I!!

OK so Jarven gets town points because controlling mech is good!!

Hey Pix, Help Jarven!!

Elise turning into a spider made us go sideways so we know know about her...

Caitlyn seems kinda red in the face... OOO DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS SHE'S ONE OF THE RIFT BADDIES?!?!

[.Lulu.]

I wanna know where Lux is!!

She promised something sick and twisted and I wanna see what color it tastes like!!

[.Lulu.]

I couldn't even pierce through your shield, like I am depressed.

I'm not!! Pix is a good faerie!! Has the BESTEREST shields!!!!

[.Lulu.]

Wanna know what else Pix does??

Hey Pix!! Attack Ashe!!

[.Lulu.]

Lulu, why are you attacking Ashe?

Cause I'm showing what Pix can do!!
And nobody bullies a puppy!! D:

[.Lulu.]

why do you not like it? in an early game state what do you think 'strange' is and what would my motivation to do it be as mafia? what would my motivation be to announce it?

i decided not to do something strange, because it's not beneficial; it was a whimsical idea that passed my mind to... speed things up, but it felt very unfair, because doing something like that on my whims is not fair to everyone else. i've decided that my

strange ability

is best used in other ways.

~

warwick is... probably town? there's a lot of hedging there, but when it doesn't hedge it leans negative, and there's a lot of room to do anything. i think scum would be less overt about having open options on most people. and i think scrounging for a reason to have these reads early is good.

still thinking through jarvan's slot. his actions felt very high-horsey, as in, i am doing this for the town, and let me spell it out for you all so you can see what i am doing and how and my motivations, and i don't know if that's more likely to be some strange condescending scum lamist-riddled move or just condescending town. i don't like that sort of attitude regardless so i'm not thinking too hard on it for now. still doesn't stop me from liking amumu for the things he said regarding jarvan.

everyone else. well. honestly i haven't had too many strong thoughts otherwise. i liked ashe a bit. lulu is enthusiastic but that's more in line with the character than an alignmnt thing so.

yep. that's me.

no laser pew pew?? awww...

[.Lulu.]

OOO I can say my ultimate doesn't really do much BUT it does give MOAR HEALTHHH!!!!!!

I also have a bind ability!!

I AM DA BEST SUPPORT MIDLANER!!!!!!

[.Lulu.]

You're a meanie spider!!
You could just say you deal extra damage and absorb health!!

PEWPEW THE SPIDER!!
GO FOR THE EYES PIX!!

Don't make me turn you into a squirrel!!

... Well I can't do that BUT I CAN BIND YOU!!

[.Lulu.]

The first attack you were allowed to show your thing, the second attack is just being mean!!

Jarvan isn't allowed to die today!!

Plus he has da shiiiiiiinnnnneeeeeeeeey...

PLUS!! I think Jarvan is towny because hes being honest about what hes doing and not trying to hide it. even if those reasons are sorta suspicious.... and pix agrees too!!

[.Lulu.]

Meanie spider lady is just hiding and being weird...

[.Lulu.]

He also has a Pix!!

ok technically I have a Pix but Pix is a good Pix!!

ok so so so so so so so...

uh....

OH What have you done thats been that helpful for town, huh!?
At least the shinymans has been useful and is trying to figure out how we all work so scums can't just pew pew and GWAAAAAAAAH!!!! at us and just win!!

[.Lulu.]

That made my brain go orange....

Shiny Jarvan person is innocent... then who doesn't?

OOO LEONA!! AND DIANANANANNAAANANA!!!! Dianananananana is a meanie too!!

plus Leonas cute...... I mean what!?

....

SPIDER LADYYYY!! How are you so sure that Jarven is a red team person and not a blue team person?? And if you're so sure then Y U NO ATTACK!?!? And your ultimate wasn't really that obviously going to change that much stuffs!!

[.Lulu.]

Amumumumu is a sad boi...

Seems to really like staying out of the fight thought considerin I saw him go WHHEEEEEEEEE when he wanted to hug someone!!

Wonder what he's thinking cause I dunno if he's blue or red....

AND WE ARE BLUUUUEEE EBECAUSE BEST TEAM ON THE RIFT IS BLUUUUUUEEEE!!

[.Lulu.]

I think

Elise's

reaction is mostly genuine, but the double basic attack is a bit exaggerated. I think getting vamp on basic attacks is in-line for an ultimate transform. To me, if the ultimate is a "no-brainer activate at start of game" then it's either poorly designed (as there is no interesting decision about when to use it) or there is more than meets the eye about the ability. Hence, my appreciable interest. Also, the game status shows that

Elise

still has 12 mana available. Either this is a mod error, or there was literally no cost to using an ultimate, which begs even more questions.

I've openly made myself a target and literally called for attacks against me. Some have questioned my attitude or motivations but it's quite simple: I have nothing to hide as town and I am convinced that solving this game requires heavy focus on mech. Just because roles were

delivered

before alignments doesn't mean roles weren't balanced/tweaked around alignment or that they weren't determined together.

If there were night phases and night kills then all these day mechanics to achieve a "lim" is just role-playing (which is cool, but not the point of the game imo). Also consider the ratio of scum to town, means town can't just "mislim" for info. And so I am reaching an exasperated point where nobody else is putting

enough

attention on mech and I believe the opposite of Amumu: it is not a place for scum to hide but rather a place for scum to get caught in.

I find it interesting that

Caitlyn

wants all high-HP people to be on the table but chose to attack

Gragas

instead of

Amumu

, who were both at full HP prior to that attack. But to answer

Caitlyn's

question, not getting attacked is not likely to swing one way or another.

On the other hand, I actually distrust the most, he who has not attacked all game:

Attack: Warwick

Amumu's

attack against me is also a non-sequitur to Caitlyn's statement. Sure, he expressed suspicion earlier, but this definitely feels like a "cheap shot."

Perhaps

Lulu

, as a designated "support-class" was given some Informed passive or ability about an ally, and that is why she is defensive of certain champs. I would like to think she is not informed for the

other

reason, as I'm finding it difficult to read the faerie language in anything but a town-voice.

Nuh-uh!! Pix goes pew, I sup super pew and bind, Pix goes shield, I go TREMENDO!
I dont know anything!! I just know always stay with the tanks on the rift! Cause good tanks stop the squishie pew pew people going SQUISH!!!!
BUUUUUUT I can stop people dying here with my GIGANIMATISM I think!! It gives a LOOOOOOOOOOTTTTAAAAA health!!

[.Lulu.]

ok ok ok ok ok ok.... ok........

SOOOOOOOO It doesn't say anywhere that alignment is randomizered after champion selection BUUUUT I don't think that our champions are really affected by alignment but more what we can do ON THE RIIIIIIFT!!!!

I don't think this game is mechanically solvautionable....
BUT!! I like the openness and knowing what people have available to use!!

[.Lulu.]

Get her Pix, the sniper lady!! CAITLYN!!

I don't like the sniper lady.... she seems weird to me....

[.Lulu.]

ok ok ok ok ok ok.... ok........

SOOOOOOOO It doesn't say anywhere that alignment is randomizered after champion selection BUUUUT I don't think that our champions are really affected by alignment but more what we can do ON THE RIIIIIIFT!!!!

I don't think this game is mechanically solvautionable....
BUT!! I like the openness and knowing what people have available to use!!

It said it in our role cards and was how the roles were received (role followed by alignment later)

OK mech not solvable, yay!!

Shiney Jarvan needs a new trick now!!

[.Lulu.]

Sniper lady is better, Shiny boi needs to do better, Mumu needs hugs, puppy needs pets, icy lady have good thinkinging, Beer man maybe, light laser pew pew lady is maybe too!!

Brain hurts now.... I should go find Veigar!!

[.Lulu.]

OOO I missed spider lady, spider lady is WWWWWEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRDDDDD.

[.Lulu.]

seriously though mumu and puppy need to being doing more. Sad mumu be sitting on the side and the puppy is too much puppy not enough grrrrr!!

[.Lulu.]

OWWIEEEEEE!!!!

Such a meanie!!

My positioning has been better than yours!! I have been friendly and engaged AAAAND my position on the rift hasn't even changed that much while you've been running around the jungle!!

Hey Pix! Go attack the Meanie Mumu!!

[.Lulu.]

Attack Caitlyn

Go get Elise, Pix!

I've been nothing but nice!!

Supports always stay back and help secure kills and protect people!! That's what I've been doing!! I would've thought that someone who just wants friends would've been more understandering of someone who also wants to be friends!!

Meanwhile meaniemumu just sits in the jungle....

[.Lulu.]

Lucky I'm holding mana, mumu!!
Or else you woulda tasted purple!!

[.Lulu.]

it feels more like lulu is roleplaying which is bleeding a bit much into the gameplay as a whole. i understand that this is an... unusual game but it's beginning to wear against some people and it's making it a lot harder than it should be to read things.

otoh it also feels like a sudden tide shift where everyone's putting up with it but then people see the cracks and then push against it because they can and it's opportunistic, in this world lulu is town but... eh.

dunno. the format intrinsically makes this game a lot harder than i thought (not to complain; it's fun).

The surprising thing about the faeries is that they only have one emotion at a time, and they get REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY into that emotion!!

Like you when you go pew pew!!

[.Lulu.]

I wanna know what Ashe and Caitlyn think about each other!!

Cause like one attacks and the other follows and I think it's WEEEIRD.

Attack Ashe

Pix, Get Caitlyn!!

[.Lulu.]

Mumu don't make me glare at you!!

I don't like Caitlyn and I don't like Ashe!!

Attack Caitlyn
Pix, Get the scope and get Caitlyn!!

Caitlyns gunna go squish!!

[.Lulu.]

TREMENDO!!
Wild Growth on self

Caitlyns tryna be sneaky and isn't doing anything except "ashe town ashe town ashe town PEW PEW GRAGAS PEW PEW LULU"!!

Ashe's either a buddy in somehow climbed in Caitlyns pocket!!

[.Lulu.]

GETTER PIX!! ATTACK CAITLYN!!

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ATTACK CAITLYN!!

[.Lulu.]

You all know silly sniper lady has a killshot, right??
I probably just went low enough to be a purple stain!!

[.Lulu.]

I dislike how fast everyone just piled up on .Lulu. Idiocy is not mafia perk.

Idiocy may not be an indicator of mafia, but it is a liability.

I actually would prefer to eliminate

Gragas

over

Lulu

.

However, if

Lulu

continues to attack

Caitlyn

who is now genuinely at half health and in danger of being focused down by burst damage, then

Lulu

can die in place of

Gragas

for the chainsaw defense of scum.

The curious thing is I'm no idiot.... just hyperactive!!

frosty not-queen and silly sniper lady both made huge contributions to taking me into her killshot range AAAAAND below half health.

I had to use my ultimate to keep myself alive!!

SOOOO who's the real baddie here??
The solo sorceress singleularararry firing down a baddie and shielding and supporting??
ORRRR the sniper lady using her killshot with the frozen not-queen and sad tank??

SOOOO MATHS HAPPENED AND I HAVE A BrAiN pAiN!!

Frozen not-queen did 16 damage so far I think and red sniper lady done 26 damage for 42 damage to me.. Sad tank has done 10 and not-queen and sad tank have debuffed me..

Me an Pix done 7 damage to Ashe and 23 damage to Caitlyn - Caitlyn has only taken 38 damage and I've taken 66 so far AND I was dropped to 47 HP which is kill range for Caitlyn AAAAND Ashe is the one who shot me below half health AAAAND Gragas is the one who put me in the kill range!!!!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I think red team think I'm an easy target because I don't have much attention span and only really have 1 emotion at a time...

OOOO ALSO SPIDER QUEENIE WHY IS YOUR DAMAGE SO SPREAD OUT??!!??
You've done 9 damage maximum to any single champion AAAAND you've attack the most champions which is only one more than anyone else BUUUT you can see who they're attacking from their damage range because it goes WHEEEEE but yours is just flatter than a minion in the way of Gragas beer barrels!!

It's really really really really really really really really really really really really yllear really really really really really really really really really really really yllear really really really really really really really really really really really really yllear really really really really really really really really really really really hard to work out who the baddies are when so many people are being mean to me....

GET THE FINGERNAILS PIX!!
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ATTACK CAITLYN!!

And now thats 30 damage done to Caitlyn!!

[.Lulu.]

If lulu keeps attacking me I'm going to just kill her

GETTER PIX!! ATTACK CAITLYN!!

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ATTACK CAITLYN!!

You all know silly sniper lady has a killshot, right??
I probably just went low enough to be a purple stain!!

I mean here's the deal, right. I'm telling you that you should stand down if you're town here because you've just been mindlessly attacking me for seemingly no reason. And then your response is just to attack me again. Like if you were in my shoes what do you think you'd be doing...?

Trying to actually look like you're blue team?? Maybe try and talk with me instead of just shooting at me?? Cause lets face it I can't take you down alone and I have never been able too because at most I do 7 per attack and you do 10. Even with HP differences without using skills you win this trade - AAAAAAND you have Ashe shooting me too so I really can't win this trade!!

I've said why I think you're a scumbutt red teamer.. Your ISO is PREEEEETTY EMPTY of anything good, you're focus firing me and Gragas, you're townlocking Ashe for no reason taht I can see other than shes supporting you which is WWWWWWWEEEEEEIIIIIIIRRRRRRDDDD and I don't remember either of you explaining your town reads.

[.Lulu.]

the violence is beginning.

attack: lulu

just for the pressure here. better to pin down whimsy a bit and make it logical.

TREMENDO!!
Wild Growth on self

Caitlyns tryna be sneaky and isn't doing anything except "ashe town ashe town ashe town PEW PEW GRAGAS PEW PEW LULU"!!

Ashe's either a buddy in somehow climbed in Caitlyns pocket!!

This isn't mindless attacking, this the short and sour version of my read on you!!
I CAN DO MOAR TOO!!

[.Lulu.]

Spoiler: Pix! Get the quotes!!

Attack: Warwick

Gragas I'm most confident on

Ignores Ashe to hit me after Amumu does

Amumu similarly reacts completely differently to Ashe and I attacking Warwick

Ashe is arguably TMI'd scum by the two of them being scum because what other reason do Amumu and Gragas have to target me over her

Jarvan did you miss that roles came before alignment?

No, why?

You said something about Ashe's attack inflicting a bind to be town-indicative

Attack: Gragas

This is not because I want to kill Gragas particularly, but I would like him to be on the table in some capacity and with that much health it psychologically removes him

Attack: Gragas

Ashe probtown

Attack: Lulu

Mmm

Attack Gragas

Okay

I think Ashe is town.

Lulu just attacking me and Ashe feels like openwolfing to a certain degree, unless I'm just terribly misreading Ashe here.

Attack: Lulu

If lulu keeps attacking me I'm going to just kill her

Attack:

Lulu

Ace In The Hole:

Lulu

This is AAAALLLLLL caitlyns attacks and mentions of Ashe in a 28 page ISO....
You make butt attacks and butts reads.

Oh and in your shoes, I'd shield. Maybe bind!!
I know you have traps you could have used instead!!

[.Lulu.]

See I admit to being away with the Faeries....

But you're just missing entirey!!
Funny for a sniper, don't you think??

[.Lulu.]

the violence is beginning.

attack: lulu

just for the pressure here. better to pin down whimsy a bit and make it logical.

TREMENDO!!
Wild Growth on self

Caitlyns tryna be sneaky and isn't doing anything except "ashe town ashe town ashe town PEW PEW GRAGAS PEW PEW LULU"!!

Ashe's either a buddy in somehow climbed in Caitlyns pocket!!

This isn't mindless attacking, this the short and sour version of my read on you!!
I CAN DO MOAR TOO!!

Why did that quote Lux? Ignore that one

[.Lulu.]

Well I wouldn't have played the day any differently.
Later.