Micro 1043: League of Legends UPick - Game Over!

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Warwick

[.Caitlyn.]

Gragas/Ashe/Amumu

[.Caitlyn.]

Gragas I'm most confident on

Ignores Ashe to hit me after Amumu does

Amumu similarly reacts completely differently to Ashe and I attacking Warwick

Ashe is arguably TMI'd scum by the two of them being scum because what other reason do Amumu and Gragas have to target me over her

[.Caitlyn.]

So kill Gragas -> Amumu -> Ashe til we hit town cause they're linked in that order

[.Caitlyn.]

It's page two yes my solve isn't perfect or unchangeable but it's what I've got atm

[.Caitlyn.]

Jarvan did you miss that roles came before alignment?

[.Caitlyn.]

Jarvan did you miss that roles came before alignment?

No, why?

You said something about Ashe's attack inflicting a bind to be town-indicative

[.Caitlyn.]

Amumu, because the confidence isn't legit. I believe that was page 2? I will also say I have forgotten to post here because it is hard to remember to check an alternate account.

[.Caitlyn.]

Lux, lulu, gragas, amumu

None have been hit.

Do we think that increases scum odds or are these slots townread

[.Caitlyn.]

Mechs are literally useless because roles existed before alignments

[.Caitlyn.]

My question wasn't about not attacking, it was about not having been attacked.

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Gragas

This is not because I want to kill Gragas particularly, but I would like him to be on the table in some capacity and with that much health it psychologically removes him

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Gragas

Ashe probtown

[.Caitlyn.]

Why again, still previous reason or?

In part that, yes.

I also think ashe's reads might be sheepworthy.

I'm getting the feeling Lulu is scum hiding behind her posting gimmick.

[.Caitlyn.]

ok ok ok ok ok ok.... ok........

SOOOOOOOO It doesn't say anywhere that alignment is randomizered after champion selection BUUUUT I don't think that our champions are really affected by alignment but more what we can do ON THE RIIIIIIFT!!!!

I don't think this game is mechanically solvautionable....
BUT!! I like the openness and knowing what people have available to use!!

It said it in our role cards and was how the roles were received (role followed by alignment later)

[.Caitlyn.]

There's one issue i notice.

No timer.
Day lasts before someone die.
But... What if no one die? Did mod made something to prevent staling?


So i think mafia do have secret abillity for this reason.

I don't think the mafia have a secret ability. I think that deadlines are just as long as we want them to be.

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Lulu

Mmm

[.Caitlyn.]

It's my impression ww might be LHF

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack Gragas

Okay

[.Caitlyn.]

I mean pop off randomly opportunistically attacking me if you want I guess

[.Caitlyn.]

I think Ashe is town.

[.Caitlyn.]

Lulu just attacking me and Ashe feels like openwolfing to a certain degree, unless I'm just terribly misreading Ashe here.

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Lulu

[.Caitlyn.]

If lulu keeps attacking me I'm going to just kill her

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack:

Lulu

Ace In The Hole:

Lulu

[.Caitlyn.]

For the sake of full transparency before the mod announces it: my ult does 50 damage after a 24 hour charge up -> shoot time. Someone can get in the way and block it (I'd prefer if you didn't cause I chose my target for a reason) but technically you can.

[.Caitlyn.]

I mean you can post all that but I literally just don't believe you actually think I'm scum here.

[.Caitlyn.]

If lulu keeps attacking me I'm going to just kill her

GETTER PIX!! ATTACK CAITLYN!!

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ATTACK CAITLYN!!

You all know silly sniper lady has a killshot, right??
I probably just went low enough to be a purple stain!!

I mean here's the deal, right. I'm telling you that you should stand down if you're town here because you've just been mindlessly attacking me for seemingly no reason. And then your response is just to attack me again. Like if you were in my shoes what do you think you'd be doing...?

[.Caitlyn.]

I think that Ashe's entrance to the game, if she is scum, would have had to been specifically tailored to getting me to townread her. As it stands right now, I think Ashe and I have a sort of mindmeld going on, so I see you attacking both us in response to that as very scummy.

[.Caitlyn.]

I've given my thoughts on things as they've happened. Not much AI stuff has occurred in the past couple of days imo: but I think Ashe's entrance was very townie, and I think her reads are sheepworthy and I want her around to bounce ideas with at the very least. I think you've been hiding behind a posting gimmick most of the game, and your very first interactions with the game are... weird. I really just don't get what you're doing, for instance, shielding warwick at the start of the game. What is the point of that? Did you townread him at that point?

[.Caitlyn.]

Oh and in your shoes, I'd shield. Maybe bind!!
I know you have traps you could have used instead!!

Fmpov, you seemed to make it pretty clear you just wanted to fight to the death instead of having a dialogue. Like I said it right there, if you continue attacking me (which has dropped me very low), I'm going to just kill you. That is what I said, and you attacked me anyway. I was showing restraint there because (iirc) my attack was off cooldown and I was specifically choosing to give you an opportunity to talk instead of attacking again.

[.Caitlyn.]

And for the record, if some subset of Gragas/amumu/ww are scum, you have played extremely anti-town to the point that even if you're town here it's probably best you don't just keep attacking me while I try to solve.

[.Caitlyn.]

At the moment, my biggest hold up with me thinking you're scum is Gragas' 187. I feel like it's super weird regardless of your alignment, but might be slightly town-indicative for you if Gragas were to flip scum. The thing is, I also think Gragas could see the way the wind is blowing and know that attacking you could give him some towncred if you were to flip scum. But it could also be him fanning the flames of our fight right now if you're town to try to get us chain killed.

But then you ignored that post (which I feel like would be super imperative for you to analyze if you're town, right? I mean... Me/Ashe/Lux/Gragas can't all be scum, right, and Ashe/Lux/Gragas were the ones that had attacked you since I had made 181) and just attacked me which yea feels like you're just openwolfing trying to kill me. My 183 is fundamentally an offer to you that we do not have to take this fight, and then Lux/Ashe attack you in 184, 185 and Gragas makes the extremely weird 187, why did you not have thoughts on any of that?

If you were town, I'd expect you to view someone piling on as scum (and the scummiest looking one was for sure Gragas) and I'd expect you to say SOMETHING there.

Okay so anyway, I've said a lot of words kind of repeating myself here, but in summary: I think your opening was weird, and your reactions to being attacked do not seem townie in the slightest.

[.Caitlyn.]

And for the record, if some subset of Gragas/amumu/ww are scum, you have played extremely anti-town to the point that even if you're town here it's probably best you don't just keep attacking me while I try to solve.

I never attacked you.

I'm trying to say that Lulu is playing anti-town with her defenses of people I think are more likely scum (like Gragas) and by attacking me/ashe.

cast: final spark

i’d recommend that the people going back and forth on this page cool it for a little bit. let the quiet ones speak.

Noted, but I would like Lulu to respond to me. I also want some clarification on what your ult is going to do?

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Lulu

I do not want to be prodded and faer seems to have dipped after my posts.

[.Caitlyn.]

Okay so I'm spewed town now right

[.Caitlyn.]

more ashe than cait.

[.Caitlyn.]

Why Warwick?

[.Caitlyn.]

I think my preference is on

Attack: Gragas

First

But shrug

[.Caitlyn.]

i think warwick and elise and even jarvan are more likely...

like does gragas teamed with lulu really say this knowing that she is probably going down?

These posts single handily made me regret healing myself. I feel as if I'm the best elimination because these dumbasses won't stop tunneling me.. I have more I could say about this but not sure how to word, but it's something like "it feels like they think me x Lulu is a thing, and it's more so because of me, and that just feels like a not so helpful thing for the town".

I'm kinda thinking maybe Lulu could be town..? Maybe? And yes, this is confirmation of us being baddies together.

tbh i don't really get why you're sticking to your page 5 solve when way more has happened since then and it wasn't based on much anyway. it worked so far i guess, so i can't complain, but it is kinda weird. probably you won't even read this since i'm in your group that you decided must contain scum so oh well, do what you want

I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility for scum to defend each other

[.Caitlyn.]

I think if you're confused on why I think gragas/lulu is possible, nay even likely, that you should reread my posts about Lulu starting at 214

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Gragas

[.Caitlyn.]

Given "clown #1 and clown #2" are the reason we have a flipped scum right now, you might want to rethink your shade.

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Gragas

[.Caitlyn.]

Wait — take our time please

[.Caitlyn.]

Sorry gragas

[.Caitlyn.]

Well I'd like to hear your thoughts on Amumu's solve

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: .Amumu.

Well I'd like to hear your thoughts on Amumu's solve

It's not really solve, it's realisation of POE and tryings to expand it.

It makes me think Warwick is actually innocent and these are preparation for accusation.

this game is ... sluggish but i don't see how to make it not-sluggish given half of us are just sitting here.

amumu's solve is just sort of hand wave. sure. yes. sure.

I don't know why others don't care, but i simple agree with plan and therefore mafia can't win if we are right (and i think so) and i am not killed, so no objections.

Idk you seem scummy to me

[.Caitlyn.]

This feels weird. Amumu/Elise SvT?

[.Caitlyn.]

I guess I'll choose a horse to back

Attack: Elise

[.Caitlyn.]

Okay mb for doubting you Ashe

Attack: Warwick

[.Caitlyn.]

Ace in the Hole: Warwick

[.Caitlyn.]

Attack: Warwick